AnaL/ML Hate Clubs

[wickedsweet]

Feed her to the others!

[musical geek]

ANA LUCIA NEEDS TO DIE AFTER THAT EPISODE! MAN I HATE HER!!!!! ARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!

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[uhavemel]

:lol

I agree. A slow and painful death is in order!!

And just for you Ana LOVERS out there...I hate her but she still looked hot.

[Dallard]

Yes this may be the last time we see her bark any orders at anyone! I think Syiad might put a little choker chain around her neck and make her his little bitch. Cause just damn... that was wrong! I think she is now offically been knocked clear off her little peddle stool.

Sorry Leut hun, I still love ya!

[boonian androphile]

Bad Ana Lucia. Bad Naughty Wicked Evil Ana Lucia.

[Dallard]

left blank to not offend a friend...

[Brian]

OK, you all know I like Michelle. That hasn't changed. (She's still hot!) However, after tonight, no way in hell I'll ever use an image of (I won't even bold her name anymore) Ana in my sig or av.

It's not Michelle's fault. TPTB wrote her into this travesty so I'll only blame them. However.......nevermind, I'm done venting and I can't add anything that anyone else here hasn't already said.

This episode was so great, except for the last 5 minutes.

*hangs head in shame as I walk out*

*sniffle*

(RX300, please remove that from your sig and re-insert the other. Thanks for the effort, I'm just not feelin' it right now!)

[Dallard]

Dude,

Ok

[Brian]

Dude,

Ok

That's better! :) Thanks!

[Dominic Love]

I HATE HER SO MUCH
FRICK GOD WHY WOULD SHE KILL SHANNON.
THEY NEED TO KILL HER & BRING BACK SHANNON.

I HATE YOU ANA LUCIA!

[LostOnOahu16]

AHHHHHHH! I HATE HER!!! Ohhhhh my, Sayid better shoot her ass.

But I'm so glad that now there could be no way that the other islanders would like her! HA!

[wickedsweet]

It's not Michelle's fault. TPTB wrote her into this travesty so I'll only blame them

While I'm no big MR fan I agree with you about the way they're writing AL. I know they're trying to make her the person everyone loves to hate but so far they've only gotten it half right.

[Khan]

She'll get away with it. Eko,Micheal and Jin won't let Sayid hurt her. TPTB plan to use her too much to get rid of her this soon.
Let's face it people unless,the fans really can't stand the little creep, they'll keep her.
They'll show the background for the TSS and that's suppose to make us feel sorry for what they went through.
She's just a nasty creature and that won't change anything for me.
I'm not the only one, I've heard of people who don't plan to watch the show much this season just because of this character.

[wickedsweet]

I'm not the only one, I've heard of people who don't plan to watch the show much this season just because of this character.

I heard a couple people say the same thing. I'll keep watching but everytime AL is on the screen I want to throw something at the TV.

[Celtic Ceilidh]

I can't wait to see the reception she'll receive when she enters camp.

[Dallard]

Oh me either. I cant wait for her and Kate to meet up. I wonder how long TPTB will make us wait for that!

[feigenbaum]

I have nothing against Michelle, but her character can go and get Arzt-ed.But in slow motion so we can watch her scream in pain as she explodes into a million pieces.

I don't think I'm going to be able to watch Lost in the same way again.:(

[Hodgepodge]

Apparently I'm the only one on the board who understands and accepts what Ana-Lucia did last night as an accident.

She went into a little detail, and apparently we'll get the whole picture next week, but the Tailies have gone throught an awful time on the island. They're all that's left of 23 survivors from the tail-section. How would you guys like it if someone came into your communities an stole some of your friends and relatives right from under your noses? We all would do what's necessary to protect the rest, and you know it!

Everyone heard the whispers, she told them to run, and she was sacrificing herself for the other travellers. Remember she said there was only one bullet. Shannon was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[PastaSteve]

Ok. So I've never liked Ana-Lucia. But... I always expected that she'd get better. Not anymore. This did it. I will forever hate Ana-Lucia from now on. Sayid had better shoot her in the next episode. After what she did, she really deserves to die... Argh...

[Lost In His Eyes]

Hate Ana-Lucia? Yes, definitly. MR is in kind of a shitty position. TPTB, like Leuth said, wrote her into this. And because of is, many, many people hate her character, which means some people might take to not liking her.

I say they throw AL to the boars! :D Or the polar bears! Or the shark...

[I Like Freckles]

I say she didn't actually do it. Give TPTB at least a little bit of credit/benefit of the doubt. Things on this show are rarely as they appear at first glance. I have a feeling that's the case here.

Who really killed Shannon? (http://p073.ezboard.com/flosttheunofficalforumfortheabcseriesfrm2.showMess age?topicID=5287.topic)

[Cijay Pronouced CJ]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y257/Sixerzfan13/screencapsofshannonsdeath2ib.jpg

Hmm

[wickedsweet]

I say she didn't actually do it.

Saddly her possibly shoting Shannon isn't the only reason I can't stand AL. She has been nothing but vile all season.

[guylikeu]

lol @ that picture. I'm not even gonna comment, that's just pretty much making stuff outta nothing. like "AL had no sleeves... neither did Walt! What does it mean?" No offense, I just find it funny ;)


I agree with the person before - it was an accident people! She didn't go up to Shannon and shoot her point-blank in the head! She was on edge, gun raised, and then something comes running at her screaming. You cannot say that you would not have done the same thing in her position cos you've never been there

If anything, I blame Shannon. You see a vison of Walt saying "shhhh", so you get up and start screaming "WALT WALT WALT WALT!!!!" Seriosuly, that was just dumb. The fusies know the others are around in the jungle, so why start screaming, when you've just been warned to be quite? Plus they had just heard the whispers, so they knew other people were there.
Then she runs off alone after Walt, still screaming, leaving Sayid behind, who has just tripped, and may have been injured. Please - she was just asking for something to happen to her.
If she'd have listened to Walt, then nothing woulda happened - the groups woulda met up and no-one would have been shot.

I blame Shannon 100%, Ana Lucia did a reasonable rational thing anyone would have done

[guylikeu]

I forgot to add that she was the only one who wanted to go look for Cindy, but Eko wouldn't let her. And she was the only one to realise Cindy was gone

[artzonyou]

I say she didn't actually do it. Give TPTB at least a little bit of credit/benefit of the doubt. Things on this show are rarely as they appear at first glance. I have a feeling that's the case here.

Who really killed Shannon? (http://p073.ezboard.com/flosttheunofficalforumfortheabcseriesfrm2.showMess age?topicID=5287.topic)

I just wanted to acknowledge this post, 'cause I'm pretty convinced that something/someone else killed (?) Shannon. That notwithstanding, let me just say that I can't stand AL either, and that I guess if the writers were trying to make viewers hate her, they've been completely successful!

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

I blame Shannon 100%, Ana Lucia did a reasonable rational thing anyone would have done

I agree, but unfortunately, I think we're in the minority. :irked:

[SareBear00]

I think that Ana-Lucia did shoot Shannon, but then I get confused when I look at those pictures of her 'gunshot hole.' The woond is very oddly shaped and doesn't look like a gunshot woond would. No matter what happened to Shannon, I still hate Ana-Lucia. She wanted to just move on and leave Sawyer in the jungle, and apparently rumor has it that she may create a love triangle between Jack and Kate, which will make me even more pissed off!!

[SareBear00]

P.S: I don't understand the whole 'no sleeves' thing??

[ponderingthings]

I think the no sleeves thing is just to show you that it is Ana Lucia in the shot....

Shannon fell and wouldn't let Sayid help her up. Isn't it possible that she ripped her shirt then and that's why it looks like a stab wound? She happened to be shot in the same body area afterwards.

I did see a screen cap of Shannon running towards Walt and it didn't look ripped.... but then the shirt is wet and plastered to her body, so I'm not sure.

I'm trying to point out another possible reason why the shirt is ripped lengthwise.

[guylikeu]

Maybe because AL shot her from about 50 feet, the buttel just amde a mess of her stomach and tore apart her shirt. That seems most likely

[Brian]

Maybe because AL shot her from about 50 feet, the buttel just amde a mess of her stomach and tore apart her shirt. That seems most likely

Hmm....if it was a hollow-point round maybe but everyone's seen gunshot wounds on shows like COPS and the like and regular bullets do more damage coming out than they do going in. It's always possible I suppose, this is a television show! :) I'm still thinking it looks more like a stab/impalement wound. I guess we'll all find out together in the coming weeks.

[Druzliah]

Wait! She can't die till Sawyer gets to smack her around a bit.

[george5]

Feed her to the others!

PLEASE GOD - SHE'S KILLING THE SHOW FOR ME!:mad:

[clarknova]

PLEASE GOD - SHE'S KILLING THE SHOW FOR ME!:mad:

Here, here!!!

The character is so annoying that I almost can't bare to watch. (Enough so that this is my first post.)

Unless they have some really spectacular revelation centered around her they better get rid of her quickly.

[guylikeu]

You guys should have more faith in the show and it's writers, before you writeit off so quickly

[Brian]

You guys should have more faith in the show and it's writers, before you writeit off so quickly

I'm still not believing Boone is dead. Wanna talk about faith? For that matter, there are some here who believe Arzt is still alive as well.
:whistling

I have all the faith in the world in TPTB and the show........for now anyway.

[Hodgepodge]

...For that matter, there are some here who believe Arzt is still alive as well.
:whistling

I have all the faith in the world in TPTB and the show........for now anyway.Never give up! Never give in! :whistling

[Khan]

Saddly her possibly shoting Shannon isn't the only reason I can't stand AL. She has been nothing but vile all season.
Vile! That's the word I've been looking for. Maybe we should take a poll of how many people here truely loathes AL.

[Brian]

Vile! That's the word I've been looking for. Maybe we should take a poll of how many people here truely loathes AL.
I think you'd have a shorter list if you asked who likes her. I'm one and the only other one I know of posted right above you! :)

[DohBoy]

You could hate Ana Lucia, just like everyboyd else; feel free to jump on that bandwagon, go with the trend, be a Paris Hilton. Why don't you just tie that red Kaballah thread around your wrist right now?

- OR -

You can buck the trend and love Ana Lucia! Spit in the face of the Establishment! Down with The Man! Down with Atkins diets, boy bands, reality TV, hating Ana Lucia, and everything else trendy! Assert your individuality! Viva la LOST!

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... Have I mentioned that Ana Lucia is hot?

[DohBoy]

I think you'd have a shorter list if you asked who likes her. I'm one and the only other one I know of posted right above you! :)

You can count me in. We stand in solidarity, Leuth. :naughty:

[uhavemel]

May I just have my red Kaballah thread now, please? I like being trendy, you know.

Ana-Lucia is a skank ho!


:tapedshut :tapedshut :tapedshut

[Lost In His Eyes]

^lmao!

[Hodgepodge]

The last thing I've got to say on the subject! Tomorrows episode, The Other 48 Days, there's one scene where you're going to need a box of Kleenex. That's all I'm saying! :cry:

OK, here's the very last thing. She's hot!

[Celtic Ceilidh]

there's one scene where you're going to need a box of Kleenex. That's all I'm saying! :cry:
Are the Kleenex to sop up the drink you threw at the TV screen because Ana Lucia's so annoying?

[Brian]

You can count me in. We stand in solidarity, Leuth. :naughty:
Thanks DohBoy! I think you'll agree with Hodge and I then.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/Leuthen2/trekit.jpg

Feel free to use that same pic in Kates forum as well! :rotfl:

[Hodgepodge]

Are the Kleenex to sop up the drink you threw at the TV screen because Ana Lucia's so annoying?Come on CC, not you too? And no, you're going to need the Kleenex to wipe those tears away.

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

You can buck the trend and love Ana Lucia! Spit in the face of the Establishment! Down with The Man! Down with Atkins diets, boy bands, reality TV, hating Ana Lucia, and everything else trendy! Assert your individuality! Viva la LOST!


:rockon:

Count me in with the Ana Lucia supporters!

[uhavemel]

Oh come on #4...this red kaballah string is pretty nifty... :)

[Hoof Arted]

she acts it...why not refer to her like this? :D

picked this up from an AICN talkbacker by the way, im not THAT clever

[Zeek]

OK I've given her a fair shot. I've tried to say "next week I'll like her". Now after the other 48 days I think I'm allowed to say I hate the &^%@#!! Can they please just kill her off already. Even the preview for next week makes her look worse than she currently is. If she had a range of emotion and moods, maybe she'd be decent for a minute per episode, but currently she has one emotion and way too much screen time.

[Hodgepodge]

OK I've given her a fair shot. I've tried to say "next week I'll like her". Now after the other 48 days I think I'm allowed to say I hate the &^%@#!! Can they please just kill her off already. Even the preview for next week makes her look worse than she currently is. If she had a range of emotion and moods, maybe she'd be decent for a minute per episode, but currently she has one emotion and way too much screen time.Zeek, what emotion is she suppose to show? Should she be happy some of her fellow survivors were abducted during the night? Should she have smiled when she found out the "Others" had a plant amongst them? What about a harty laugh when Goodwin tried to kill her?

I'm going to assume you when to the bathroom when she had that emotional breakdown in Eko's arms. That's the only way you would've missed that. Just thinking about it again, I'm getting emotional myself.*Where did I put those Kleenex*

[Eko~Fan]

I found her 'emotional breakdown' quite nauseating. She's an arrogant &^%@# the entire time, then decides to blubber like a baby and I'm supposed to feel sorry for her? I dont think so. I hope Sayid shoots her.

[Zeek]

The emotional breakdown wasn't believable at all. I'm pretty sure she was just trying to get Eko off his guard so she could try to kill him too.

Have you noticed how Jack has reacted to bad situations on the island? Sure he can be harsh at times but he is also a good leader. He helps build the other people up rather than tearing them down all the time. He isn't leading with an iron fist. He's leading with the people's consent.

[the end of innocence]

I found her 'emotional breakdown' quite nauseating. She's an arrogant &^%@# the entire time, then decides to blubber like a baby and I'm supposed to feel sorry for her? I dont think so. I hope Sayid shoots her.
No, shooting her would be too short and sweet, he should tie her up and let Sawyer lick her, or let Charlie have some H and make out with her.

Yes, the sob scene was pretty corny but ok, hollywood standard. Unfortunately that was the only attempt to make her out to be a "real" person.

I'm not sure what irritates me more, her attitude or the other tailies spinelessness. "oh oh, call ana quick, ooo oo, get ana"

my questions:
--At what point was she appointed leader/ interrigator?
--Who put her in charge of the 5 minute break schedule?
--Why are the other tailies basically acting like sheep? (save eko)
--when did she decide it would be a good idea to dig a huge hole all by herself and construct a door for it (with only a small knife and sticks - in two days)
--Who died and made her Queen?

[Khan]

The problem is the writers can't tell the difference between a leader and a dictator(ie Jack). They think Ana's a leader, when she's a mini Hitler in low riders.

[Hodgepodge]

...my questions:
--At what point was she appointed leader/ interrigator?
--Who put her in charge of the 5 minute break schedule?
--Why are the other tailies basically acting like sheep? (save eko)
--when did she decide it would be a good idea to dig a huge hole all by herself and construct a door for it (with only a small knife and sticks - in two days)
--Who died and made her Queen?Well, as of yet we don't know anything about her background. There's been a lot of speculation she maybe a police office or in the military. In any case, certain people have that leader gene in their DNA. Jack, although he never wanted it, has such a gene. And you can see the same attributes in Ana-Lucia.

[wickedsweet]

You could hate Ana Lucia, just like everyboyd else; feel free to jump on that bandwagon, go with the trend, be a Paris Hilton. Why don't you just tie that red Kaballah thread around your wrist right now?

Ok I can hate AL and you can love her but calling anyone Paris Hilton is just to low of a blow.:no-no:

No, shooting her would be too short and sweet, he should tie her up and let Sawyer lick her

WHAT? Why reward her? :pissed: I've been a good girl all year can I have this part of Ana Lucia's punishment please.:pant: :pant: :heartpump :faintthud :swoon: :melting:

[kt74]

Shes not so bad, i quite like her as she has leadership qualities. It will be interesting to see how her and jack clash on decisions

[Khan]

Shes not so bad, i quite like her as she has leadership qualities. It will be interesting to see how her and jack clash on decisions
Hitler,Saddam,Castro all had "leadership qualities" should we praise them?

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

Hitler,Saddam,Castro all had "leadership qualities" should we praise them?

But those folks were real. It's quite different when the character is simply a character.

I respect her for being a believable, complex, and interesting character. We haven't even seen much of her yet, and I feel like we have just seen the surface of her emotional turmoil - the desire to appear strong before other people, the driving need to be in a leadership position, her thinly veiled fear, how she broke down crying when all the emotions she so long repressed flooded to the surface...

[wickedsweet]

I respect her for being a believable, complex, and interesting character.

I love that different people can see the same thing but see it a million different ways. All the things you see in her I think are lacking and I guess if I wanted to be completely fair I'd have to admit that neither of us is anymore "right" than the other. (Secretly though I'm pretty sure I'm right :shhh: :p )

[Hodgepodge]

But those folks were real. It's quite different when the character is simply a character.

I respect her for being a believable, complex, and interesting character. We haven't even seen much of her yet, and I feel like we have just seen the surface of her emotional turmoil - the desire to appear strong before other people, the driving need to be in a leadership position, her thinly veiled fear, how she broke down crying when all the emotions she so long repressed flooded to the surface...URN4, I couldn't have said it better myself!*Where did I put those Kleenex?*

Nice sig BTW!

[guylikeu]

But those folks were real. It's quite different when the character is simply a character.

I respect her for being a believable, complex, and interesting character. We haven't even seen much of her yet, and I feel like we have just seen the surface of her emotional turmoil - the desire to appear strong before other people, the driving need to be in a leadership position, her thinly veiled fear, how she broke down crying when all the emotions she so long repressed flooded to the surface...

I agree 100%. If she was the same kind of leader as Jack - ie totally wet - then you just know everyone would complain about that too. Her character arc is going to be very interesting, and I look forward to seeing Ana develop over the season. You just know that the first time she and Kate meet, everyone - even the AL haters - will be on the edge of their seats!


I love your AL sig BTW - I just made a supportive AL one myself, but it's lame & I prefer my Oz one, lol!

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

All the things you see in her I think are lacking and I guess if I wanted to be completely fair I'd have to admit that neither of us is anymore "right" than the other.

I'd like to ask how you can think that when we don't know enough of Ana Lucia's past or motives yet... but then, wouldn't that undermine my own position in defending her, since I don't know whether her circumstances justify her actions (from a strictly character point of view, of course)?

I'll declare a truce on this for now. ;)

Thanks for the compliment on my sig, Hodgepodge and guylikeu! It's the first one I've ever made... so your comments are an incredible confidence booster. :D

[Khan]

But those folks were real. It's quite different when the character is simply a character.

I respect her for being a believable, complex, and interesting character. We haven't even seen much of her yet, and I feel like we have just seen the surface of her emotional turmoil - the desire to appear strong before other people, the driving need to be in a leadership position, her thinly veiled fear, how she broke down crying when all the emotions she so long repressed flooded to the surface...
Yes,it's a character, but I'm not watching Bugs Bunny. You're suppose to see this a "real " drama. Not a cartoon set in bizarro world. Just because it not a "real" person doesn't mean anything the character does can be excused. How many serial killers have great pain in thier background, or rapists who may be kind to puppies, etc. That's why she can be compared to real people.
I still say if A** was played by a fat balding man most of her defenders would not feel the same way.:)

[Khan]

I might use it, so far I just use A**.

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

I still say if A** was played by a fat balding man most of her defenders would not feel the same way.:)

I hope you're not saying that people are only defending her for her looks, since I'm a straight female. :rolleyes:

I'm not trying to fudge off the "it's only a tv show" excuse. I'm simply saying that I believe she is a wonderfully intriguing and interesting character.

And it's not like she's a serial killer or a rapist. I'd like to see you name one thing that she has done that could be labeled on the same level. Killing Shannon? Ana Lucia was on edge and extremely frightened (with a hell of a good reason), and Shannon jumps out screaming from the shadows. Ana has a gun, the only practical means of defending against whatever seemed to be getting ready to attack them, and she is in charge of protecting all of the TSS. What if it had been one of the others? If Ana Lucia had waited to make sure she was shooting at the enemy, one or more of the group could have ended up dead or worse.

[wickedsweet]

I'll declare a truce on this for now.

:yeah: :thumbs_up :goodvibes

[Khan]

Hi Unnamed Redshirt Number 4. I'm sorry to take so long to respond(computer problems).
I only compared her to a serial killer or rapist not because of what she has done, but to deal with the excuse that she may have had a lot of pain or sorry causing her so unlikable.I don't mind her being tough. As a woman I'm glad that there are strong even hard woman in film. My all time favorite women characters are Ripley in Alien and Sarah Conner in Terminator 2.
There's something about AL that's just nasty.She acts like an egotist who's power has gone to her head. There's no excuse for her behaving the way she does.She seems to like pushing people around, causing pain,like some demented gang member because she can. Maybe the actress can't play her any other way,she may not have what it takes to handle the part without turning off people.
Some (not you :) ) are defending her because as they say repeatedly "she's hot",I still think a lot would see the character in a different light if it was an older woman(as they intended) or an older man.

[guylikeu]

I hope you're not saying that people are only defending her for her looks, since I'm a straight female.

... and I'm a gay man!

I wouldn't want AL to be any older, cos I wanna she her challenge Kate for alpha female

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

Hi Unnamed Redshirt Number 4. I'm sorry to take so long to respond(computer problems).
I only compared her to a serial killer or rapist not because of what she has done, but to deal with the excuse that she may have had a lot of pain or sorry causing her so unlikable.I don't mind her being tough. As a woman I'm glad that there are strong even hard woman in film. My all time favorite women characters are Ripley in Alien and Sarah Conner in Terminator 2.
There's something about AL that's just nasty.She acts like an egotist who's power has gone to her head. There's no excuse for her behaving the way she does.She seems to like pushing people around, causing pain,like some demented gang member because she can. Maybe the actress can't play her any other way,she may not have what it takes to handle the part without turning off people.
Some (not you :) ) are defending her because as they say repeatedly "she's hot",I still think a lot would see the character in a different light if it was an older woman(as they intended) or an older man.

I think she seems to be so "power hungry" only because of an internal emotional struggle - most people who have control issues also suffer from lack of self-esteem, fear, or many other things. At first glance, Ana Lucia may seem like just a one-dimensional "tough woman," but take a careful look, and I believe that you can see some of the turmoil beneath cracks in the "tough" mask she wears: sometimes it's as little as a brief quiver in her voice.

Of course, like I told wickedsweet, I'm not going to argue this to death yet... truce for now. :)

Although, it would be interesting, I agree, to see what people would think of Ana Lucia if she were played by a different aged actress/actor. She might lose some of the "she's hot" supporters, but wouldn't she also possibly gain supporters from the current crowd who think she is simply a stereotypical "tough chick?" Could prompt some interesting discussion, that.

[DohBoy]

I assure you, I do not defend Ana Lucia on the basis of her looks.

Looks alone can't save a character from my dislike - I mean, I'm simply not a fan of Kate's character. But that belongs in Kate's forum.

Additionally, I really like Hurley's mom - not a looker, but a great character.

Of course, her looks don't hurt her cause, ya know? ;) Cuz, if you hadn't noticed, she's hot. Really hot.

[Khan]

Interesting comments. But I finally pegged her, she acts like a punk, a typical "I think I own the world gangsta", she should break out in rap anyday now. It's not the toughness, it's the arrogance, I've seen junior high school kids at the bus stop with the same spirit.They didn't have a gun, but you never know. That's what makes her so sickening. And now I think it is the actress, how she says a line, expresses an emotion makes all the difference.
As far as being hot. I'm female so I couldn't care less.:)

[Bubbliscious13]

I haven't liked her from day 1 when S2 aired.

[Bubbliscious13]

I agree, Hoof Arted. Welcome to the board by the way!

[Zeek]

That last episode was pretty good. We got to hear about the *(&#@ getting shot 4 times and losing her baby and her boyfriend. Eat that you stupid *&^@#$(*&^!&@^%#&^%&$@#$ :D:D:D:D:D:D

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

That last episode was pretty good. We got to hear about the *(&#@ getting shot 4 times and losing her baby and her boyfriend. Eat that you stupid *&^@#$(*&^!&@^%#&^%&$@#$ :D:D:D:D:D:D

Even if you do hate her character, Zeek, how can you possibly say something so insensitive as that?

[OneEyedJack]

I assure you, I do not defend Ana Lucia on the basis of her looks.


Nor do I. I don't like the character, but I don't hate her either. Funny thing is, plenty of female fans of Lost DO defend Sawyer based on his looks. Is Sawyer really any worse than Ana Lucia? He killed the wrong man in cold blood in an act that wasn't even legitimate revenge. Ana Lucia killed the right man in an act that could be considered justifiable by revenge advocates. Ana Lucia is a control freak but she's trying to be a leader and do the right thing. Sawyer did almost nothing for the group at first and went out of his way to be self serving and antagonistic. Yet the number of female fans on these boards going ga-ga over Sawyer entirely because of his looks outnumber any guy going ga-ga over AL about 25 to 1. What gives?

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

Funny thing is, plenty of female fans of Lost DO defend Sawyer based on his looks. Is Sawyer really any worse than Ana Lucia?

As a female who DOES think Sawyer is a gorgeous piece of eye candy... I assure you that that is not why I think he is a great character. Same reason I like Ana-Lucia - purely due to complexities and intrigue in the character.

[wickedsweet]

Anna really isn't tough. She's to weak to know when she's losing control. to weak to know when she needs help, to weak to admit that she can't handle it all. The first truely brave thing that I've seen her do was asking Eko to stay. She finally admitted her weakness but by then it was to late.

[Zeek]

Even if you do hate her character, Zeek, how can you possibly say something so insensitive as that?
What's insensitive about it? Ana deserves as much pain as humanly possible. The baby was far better off dead than being raised by Ana. Can you see her ever taking care of child? The killing was an act of mercy to the child and proper punishment for Ana.

If at all possible I hope the island keeps making her relive her shooting over and over.

Also the guy who shot her apparently didn't know she was pregnant if ana had to tell him. So, you can't totally blame him for that. He was just trying to kill a police officer to get away. It was battle and Ana should have known better than to take an innocent life into battle with her. The fault is at least equal between the two.

[Khan]

Okay who has that AL hate club? Maybe we can get her written off.:pray: It would be nice to enjoy Lost again.

[Kayla]

Zeke I don't think it was an act of mercy, mercy is helping a terminal patient in excrutiating pain die with dignity. Even if you think Ana is wretched, her child was innocent and there is such a thing as adoption. Besides, bad people can be good parents, sorry if sounds oxymoronic.

I do, however, agree about her responsibility in it, if she did know she was pregnant, she's as responsible as the shooter was. Police officers face mortal danger every day, she deserves 50% of the blame.

OneEyedJack Please don't paint all female Sawyer fans with one brush. I do find him very attractive but Locke is my favorite character and it ain't because of his sex appeal. I like Sawyer for the same reason I like Locke, they're interesting to me, more than the sum of the bad things they've done and each capable in their own way.

Sawyer has redeemed himself to some viewers, Ana-Lucia has yet to do that with other viewers, perhaps, that is why she is so hated by them. You'd be surprised how many male viewers find AL hot, just post her Malibu bikini pics, the men will flock.

[fordprefect42]

I agree. Ana Lucia is making me want to change the channel. I hope they kill her off soon. I also think Michelle Rodriguez plays the same character in everything I have ever seen her in. No depth of character. Ok she's angry all the time because she lost her baby. Look at all of the tragedy in all of the chracters lives. They all have reasons to be angry, but for the most part have a range of human emotions. I even liked Shannon more, as a character, and she was a bitch. I would rather see the other characters on screen more. What has happened to Hurley? I am starting to lose interest since this bitch is on the show 24-7. A minor character at best, if not gone altogether. I will give this show one last shot before I change the channel...

[Khan]

I agree. Ana Lucia is making me want to change the channel. I hope they kill her off soon. I also think Michelle Rodriguez plays the same character in everything I have ever seen her in. No depth of character. Ok she's angry all the time because she lost her baby. Look at all of the tragedy in all of the chracters lives. They all have reasons to be angry, but for the most part have a range of human emotions. I even liked Shannon more, as a character, and she was a bitch. I would rather see the other characters on screen more. What has happened to Hurley? I am starting to lose interest since this bitch is on the show 24-7. A minor character at best, if not gone altogether. I will give this show one last shot before I change the channel...
I know how you feel,I decided to just tape it and watch it later when I can fast forward past the nasty little creep.:mad:
By the way punks have no depth of character.

[Jay1318]

I really have no use for the Ana-Lucia character. It's one thing to have a tough girl... that's fine. But she is simply a miserable person and I don't enjoy her character on the show at all.

There are SO many other characters and situations i'd like to start knowing a little about FIRST!

Hurley's numbers
Locke's handicap
The Polar Bear?
Walt?
etc...

Again, the Ana-Lucia character is making me dislike the show and i'm really feeling jerked around with the lingering of several of the stories.

I'm strongly considering being done with Lost because of Ana-Lucia and if they don't start getting to some of the other stories.

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

Why did you post this in both General Discussion and this thread?

[the end of innocence]

If there can be an anti charlie club, lets begin the anti ana club right here, all we need is title for our signatures that includes ANAL

any suggestions?

[Brian]

If there can be an anti charlie club, lets begin the anti ana club right here, all we need is title for our signatures that includes ANAL

any suggestions?
Groups are fine, I belong to one myself, however, please do be careful with this. There are MANY minors who view this board and I'd hate to have to say anything to anyone. Enjoy and Good Luck! :)

[chrisberni]

There's already at least one other Ana Lucia hate thread - merging.

[Khan]

If there can be an anti charlie club, lets begin the anti ana club right here, all we need is title for our signatures that includes ANAL

any suggestions?
Please let me know when you find one, can't wait to join.:D

[Jerii]

You guys are funny. :)

Ana Lucia is the most interesting of the new characters, beside Ecko.

I love Bernard cuz he's so loveable. And cuz he's married to an adorable woman.

I was so hating on Ana when she shot Shannon, because I really liked Shannon.

But I can't bring myself to hate her character when she offers so much, not to mention an edge to the show.

I used to hate the Sawyer character as well, but I came to like him purely because he's much more pitiful than he lets on. He's so lost. Lost. haha

But Ana is so very pleasurable to watch cuz you don't know what she's gonna do.

And no, I don't have the hots for Ana. haha

[Ana-Lucia]

I love Ana. I think she makes the show very inteesting.

[wickedsweet]

I think she makes the show very inteesting.

The show's always been interesting.

[Khan]

How many AL/MR hate clubs are there and who has them?
Can they be united into one to avoid confusion?
Who wants to join?

[Hodgepodge]

What's insensitive about it? Ana deserves as much pain as humanly possible. The baby was far better off dead than being raised by Ana. Can you see her ever taking care of child? The killing was an act of mercy to the child and proper punishment for Ana...Zeek, this goes way beyond hating a character. You do realize this is a television series, right? Or, are we talking about something else here?

...He was just trying to kill a police officer to get away. It was battle and Ana should have known better than to take an innocent life into battle with her. The fault is at least equal between the two.This is unbelievable! Do you actually feel like this? Or, are you trying to bait someone?

[wickedsweet]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeek
What's insensitive about it? Ana deserves as much pain as humanly possible. The baby was far better off dead than being raised by Ana. Can you see her ever taking care of child? The killing was an act of mercy to the child and proper punishment for Ana...

Zeek, this goes way beyond hating a character. You do realize this is a television series, right? Or, are we talking about something else here?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeek
...He was just trying to kill a police officer to get away. It was battle and Ana should have known better than to take an innocent life into battle with her. The fault is at least equal between the two.

This is unbelievable! Do you actually feel like this? Or, are you trying to bait someone?

I couldn't agree with hodgepodge more.

[Brian]

Alrighty. I've merged all three of the most visited Ana-Lucia dislike thread together into this one. Please continue in this thread rather than starting new threads.

Thank you. :)

[sablegirl]

Now why do you guys hate Ana Lucia soooo much? because she (Maybe she did maybe she didn't) shot Shannon?

Please tell me you're ticked because she is unlikable character.
Please say that you don't trust her.
PLEASE say that it is because she may somehow mess up the survivors chances. That...I can understand.
But PLEASE...don't tell me it's because you will miss Shannon's good looks on the show. That will make me just gag.

[Khan]

Now why do you guys hate Ana Lucia soooo much? because she (Maybe she did maybe she didn't) shot Shannon?

Please tell me you're ticked because she is unlikable character.
Please say that you don't trust her.
PLEASE say that it is because she may somehow mess up the survivors chances. That...I can understand.
But PLEASE...don't tell me it's because you will miss Shannon's good looks on the show. That will make me just gag.
Nah sablegirl that's not the reason most have a problem with her.

[wickedsweet]

Now why do you guys hate Ana Lucia soooo much? because she (Maybe she did maybe she didn't) shot Shannon?

There are pages and pages all over the boards as to why people don't like AL, but, yes, shoting Shannon is part of it for some of us.

[Khan]

There are pages and pages all over the boards as to why people don't like AL, but, yes, shoting Shannon is part of it for some of us.
Maybe this doesn't belong in this thread, but did you like Shannon too?
I didn't a first, but she began to seem so much in need of appreciation and real love. Her last episode blew me away,she wasn't always to selfish thing she appeared to be at the start of Lost. I wish they had kept her.

[LoStMyMiNd]

What's insensitive about it? Ana deserves as much pain as humanly possible. The baby was far better off dead than being raised by Ana. Can you see her ever taking care of child? The killing was an act of mercy to the child and proper punishment for Ana.

If at all possible I hope the island keeps making her relive her shooting over and over.

Also the guy who shot her apparently didn't know she was pregnant if ana had to tell him. So, you can't totally blame him for that. He was just trying to kill a police officer to get away. It was battle and Ana should have known better than to take an innocent life into battle with her. The fault is at least equal between the two.

:yeah:
Zeek, right on, we think alike! I agree with everything you have said.

[LoStMyMiNd]

Seriously though, I don't like Ana because she is ruining the show. Her wheeping scene was a joke. I mean, I can act better than that in a heartbeat. How disgusting.

TPTB have made her into a Drill Sargeant and its obnoxious and grates on me. I dislike arrogance so maybe thats the word I'm looking for.

I really hope she has a short short life on this wonderful show.

[wickedsweet]

Maybe this belong in this thread, but did you like Shannon too?
I didn't a first, but she began to seem so much in need of appreciation and real love. Her last episode blew me away,she wasn't always to selfish thing she appeared to be at the start of Lost. I wish they had kept her.

I agree with you about Shannon.

I guess at first I wrote her off as a boring snot but when Walt gave her Vincent to take care of, her reaction to Walt talking about his mother just broke my heart and she became my favorite female carachter on the island. It just seemed like her role got better every week and I loved her and Sayid being together. I really think it was a mistake to kill her off because there was so much about her and Boone that we hadn't found out yet and I also don't think that it made any sense to have her seeing Walt only to kill her off, I think TPTB should have done more with that.

Besides, even when I didn't like Shannon I thought Maggie Grace was the best actress on LOST. I thought she brought alot to the carachter.

[Lost In His Eyes]

I may hate AL, but I didn't join a club.

[Khan]

What is the name of the Anal hate club or names?
How do I join?

[Brian]

What is the name of the Anal hate club or names?
How do I join?
nthxing,

Everyone's so busy hating her that haven't thought of a name yet. :rotfl:

That said, even I have to agree that TPTB and their writing style for Michelle Rodriguez has irritated me this season. They've so typecast her that the only thing left for her to do is come screaching into the camp in a tricked-out NSX. I think they have everything else covered. :)

[the end of innocence]

What is the name of the Anal hate club or names?
How do I join?

I regret not having time to read and post more often...

yes, we must think of a name, and ANAL is definitely got to be a part of the name, i came up with a few ideas elswhere, I will have to post a few options again... i go to find my old idea from last week :D

GOSH! I HATE HER SO MUCH!

Lets hope we dont even see her face in episode 9

[Khan]

I regret not having time to read and post more often...

yes, we must think of a name, and ANAL is definitely got to be a part of the name, i came up with a few ideas elswhere, I will have to post a few options again... i go to find my old idea from last week :D

GOSH! I HATE HER SO MUCH!

Lets hope we dont even see her face in episode 9
I'm hoping the same thing! An AnaL free episode would be a joy.
I'll keep checking for the final club name.

[the end of innocence]

it sure is alot of fun to hate her so much, so we could go with my new favorite:

The Ana-banna-bo-banna Hate Club

It is always good to incorporate ANAL into it, so it then becomes

The Anal-banna-bo-banna Hate Club

Err, maybe the Anal-fo-fanna-fanna Hate Club

Or maybe just

Anal hate club

so pure and simple :rolleyes:

LMAO

what do you think?

we could always do like the charlie club and make an acronym like say,
Society To Destroy ANAL (as twisted as i am, i just dont think i could live wth that one:eek: )

Its late, maybe i can come up with a better one tomorrow before the show starts :P off to bed with me.

[wickedsweet]

We could just go with AnaL Sucks and let people take from that what they may:eek:

[the end of innocence]

well, for sure that pic you have there in your sig has got to be a membership requirement.

I have put off for some time getting a free webhost to host pics for my sigs. Seems the time to do it. Time to overcome that technological barrier! redshirt did it, so i will too. hehe.

Here's a few more, maybe should i poll this? :P
Save the show! NO MORE ANAL!
STOP ANAL NOW

There is no end to funny titles we could give it, so I shall stop there
which one you like nthxing?

[the end of innocence]

Introducing the new Sig!

[Khan]

Introducing the new Sig!
I kind of like that. We've had too much of her. It's time for her to pack her sneer and go so we can have Lost back.
I also like the Anal Sucks club title,but too many of her fans may just enjoy that thought.:D
I don't know how I'm going to bear her face in all my posts though.
So is it official?

[Hodgepodge]

Nthxing, you're right! People who like the character and the actress would love the pun! :)

[Warthawg1]

They've so typecast her that the only thing left for her to do is come screaching into the camp in a tricked-out NSX

YAHTZEE!!!!!!!!!!

[the end of innocence]

I kind of like that. We've had too much of her. It's time for her to pack her sneer and go so we can have Lost back.
I also like the Anal Sucks club title,but too many of her fans may just enjoy that thought.:D
I don't know how I'm going to bear her face in all my posts though.
So is it official?

hmmm, thats true, on second thought showing her face (its actually kind of a "cutie face" shot) probly should not be a requirement for membership :confused: It could be compromising for some people's morals. I think the red line through her face could use a bit of an upgrade, its not really covering her up well enough. I'll see what i can do. For now i will reduce the pics to just one for my sig.:o

Sure the club name is official so long as one more person likes it :) all we need is wickedsweet or somebody to sign on, whatever you guys like best:rockon:

CLUB NEWS:
The struggle only gets harder from here, that detestable idiot cop is only going to be liked by more and more people the more she cries :mad:

Remain strong Black Hearted Ana Haters!

[Khan]

QUOTE:

Sure the club name is official so long as one more person likes it :) all we need is wickedsweet or somebody to sign on, whatever you guys like best:rockon:

CLUB NEWS:
The struggle only gets harder from here, that detestable idiot cop is only going to be liked by more and more people the more she cries :mad:

Remain strong Black Hearted Ana Haters![/QUOTE]
I'm in!

[the end of innocence]

Wewt! Welcome!

I edited the pic a bit, makes her less cute.:clap:

[Khan]

Wewt! Welcome!

I edited the pic a bit, makes her less cute.:clap:
Great! Now how do I get this on my posts?

[the end of innocence]

using your sig edit and the insert image button, use this URL for the pic

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c111/gcha8e/no-ana-lucia2-1.jpg

[wickedsweet]

QUOTE:

Sure the club name is official so long as one more person likes it all we need is wickedsweet or somebody to sign on, whatever you guys like best


Consider me a yay vote.

[wickedsweet]

Poor Josh, that just don't look right under him. Oh well, if he minds, I'll just have to figure out a way to make it up to him;)

[Hodgepodge]

Father, forgive them; for they do not know what they are doing! :o

[Khan]

Father, forgive them; for they do not know what they are doing! :o
See, you had to be funny so now I can't throw rocks at you.
Well... I can but I'll feel bad about it and it's all your fault.

[DohBoy]

Honestly, I worry about people who actually "hate" other people, be they real or fictional people. "Hate" is quite a strong word - and if that word truly encapsulates how you feel about Ana Lucia, Michelle Rodriguez or both of them, then I worry.

You may throw rocks at me at your leisure.

[Khan]

Honestly, I worry about people who actually "hate" other people, be they real or fictional people. "Hate" is quite a strong word - and if that word truly encapsulates how you feel about Ana Lucia, Michelle Rodriguez or both of them, then I worry.

You may throw rocks at me at your leisure.
Yes it is the word along with dispise.MR I can't say I hate, I don't know her, I do "hate" her acting or lack of it. I hate the character as it's been portrayed, MR took what was suppose to be someone who represented what happens when people not longer have the rules of society to control them. She's the "savage", Jack is suppose to be the "cilvilized". But in her hands it's just not bringing the depth that should be there. She can act the ass you see on the street corner with a chip on thier shoulder,the kind of person that shoots other kids in school because "they looked at them funny", but thats it.
As for hating in general,I think there are people who deserve it. Just nasty and evil.I'm not PC and I don't follow the pyscho babble that's infected society. I do believe in restraint when dealing with them, but I definately believe they should be dealt strongly with when they cross the line.

[the end of innocence]

I'm not PC and I don't follow the pyscho babble that's infected society

Damn strait!

However, i do find it useful to follow the psychobabble sometimes, you can often turn it around in your favor. Such as, I only hate her because it feels good, doesn't society tell us to do what feels good?

[wickedsweet]

Honestly, I worry about people who actually "hate" other people, be they real or fictional people.

I actually HATE very few people I'm using the word here due to sheer vocabulary laziness.

[Khan]

I actually HATE very few people I'm using the word here due to sheer vocabulary laziness.
You could always say she causes an intense unpleasant visceral reaction that leaves you feeling deeply disturbed, but hate doesn't take as much time.

[wickedsweet]

You could always say she causes an intense unpleasant visceral reaction that leaves you feeling deeply disturbed, but hate doesn't take as much time.

:thumbs_up :rotfl: :rotfl:

[DohBoy]

Ooookay .... Feel free to "hate" Ana Lucia all you like. Obviously I disagree with it, but to each his own. This whole hate-campaign just leave a bad taste in my mouth. For some reason, this AnaL Hate thing just doesn't have the same charm or playfulness as the Deface the Pace campaign - it appears to be sheer, morbid hatred of both the character and the actress that plays her.

With Charlie, basically the character can be pretty annoying, as are the domfans that squee at his every breath. So the Dom-bashing is done more playfully - and artfully.

But with Ana Lucia, it's like the haters actually would cheer if they saw her or the actress that portrays her tortured, beaten, gruesomely murdered, and all without a bit of remorse. The haters seem to take every action performed by Ana Lucia and Michelle Rodriguez and twist them to become unredeeming qualities, providing her neither excuses nor a breath of air to redeem herself. The hatred seems so deep-seeded and personal that I question whether or not the haters realize there is a division between the actor and the part; and that a character's actions are controlled by the director and writers, and not the actor who plays her.

Oh well. My problem with all this is probably mostly a result of the fact that I just don't understand this form of hatred. Enjoy your hate club.

[Khan]

Ooookay .... Feel free to "hate" Ana Lucia all you like. Obviously I disagree with it, but to each his own. This whole hate-campaign just leave a bad taste in my mouth. For some reason, this AnaL Hate thing just doesn't have the same charm or playfulness as the Deface the Pace campaign - it appears to be sheer, morbid hatred of both the character and the actress that plays her.

With Charlie, basically the character can be pretty annoying, as are the domfans that squee at his every breath. So the Dom-bashing is done more playfully - and artfully.

But with Ana Lucia, it's like the haters actually would cheer if they saw her or the actress that portrays her tortured, beaten, gruesomely murdered, and all without a bit of remorse. The haters seem to take every action performed by Ana Lucia and Michelle Rodriguez and twist them to become unredeeming qualities, providing her neither excuses nor a breath of air to redeem herself. The hatred seems so deep-seeded and personal that I question whether or not the haters realize there is a division between the actor and the part; and that a character's actions are controlled by the director and writers, and not the actor who plays her.

Oh well. My problem with all this is probably mostly a result of the fact that I just don't understand this form of hatred. Enjoy your hate club.
All AnaL haters are not the same,some do suggest torture,beating and the like. Most of us just want her gone.
There is a thread dealing with the issue of Al or MR being the problem for some of us. I feel it's MR mostly, I have said before I don't know MR to hate her,but I do hate her acting. I don't think she can do any better.It's true the writers and directors are to blame for the characters actions, but the actor gives the part life.It's funny you should you the word sneer, because that best describes MR,often when not on Lost. She carries an attitude that comes across.That may be why the character seems so unredeemable.
AnaL is more than annoying to us,she's a mean unpleasant person that we don't want to spend any time with.Yet if we want to see Lost we don't have any choice.So there's a lot of anger directed to her. For those who like her I'm sure you can't understand how this one character can ruin the show for those who don't.

[I like to listen]

I voted one star for this thread. My vote bumped it two stars down.:celebrate

LONG LIVE ANA!

[Khan]

Hey fellow members of The No More AnaL Hate Club forgive me for not having that *shudder* picture up yet, but my panther keeps eating it.

[guylikeu]

Ooookay .... Feel free to "hate" Ana Lucia all you like. Obviously I disagree with it, but to each his own. This whole hate-campaign just leave a bad taste in my mouth. For some reason, this AnaL Hate thing just doesn't have the same charm or playfulness as the Deface the Pace campaign - it appears to be sheer, morbid hatred of both the character and the actress that plays her.

With Charlie, basically the character can be pretty annoying, as are the domfans that squee at his every breath. So the Dom-bashing is done more playfully - and artfully.

But with Ana Lucia, it's like the haters actually would cheer if they saw her or the actress that portrays her tortured, beaten, gruesomely murdered, and all without a bit of remorse. The haters seem to take every action performed by Ana Lucia and Michelle Rodriguez and twist them to become unredeeming qualities, providing her neither excuses nor a breath of air to redeem herself. The hatred seems so deep-seeded and personal that I question whether or not the haters realize there is a division between the actor and the part; and that a character's actions are controlled by the director and writers, and not the actor who plays her.

Oh well. My problem with all this is probably mostly a result of the fact that I just don't understand this form of hatred. Enjoy your hate club.

^I agree 100%. I think life is too short to waste time on negativeity. Ultimatly, something like this could lead to a club against Lost. Focusing on what you dislike about a show cannot be good in the long term, in terms of continued veiwing.

[guylikeu]

Oh, and I forgot to add that I agree totally with the name you guys have chosen:
"NO MORE ANAL HATE"

^I think we have far too much AL hate round here, so I'm glad you guys have formed a club to say no more of it ;)

[stilllost]

ana/michelle > every other female on this show COMBINED.

[wickedsweet]

But with Ana Lucia, it's like the haters actually would cheer if they saw her or the actress that portrays her tortured, beaten, gruesomely murdered, and all without a bit of remorse. The haters seem to take every action performed by Ana Lucia and Michelle Rodriguez and twist them to become unredeeming qualities, providing her neither excuses nor a breath of air to redeem herself. The hatred seems so deep-seeded and personal that I question whether or not the haters realize there is a division between the actor and the part; and that a character's actions are controlled by the director and writers, and not the actor who plays her.

Well, gee, that's pretty insulting. We don't agree with your opion of an actress/role so we seem to be idiotic pyshcopaths wishing death upon some actress who plays a part we don't like? Oh, yeah, and we're to stupid to differenate between actress and role. At no point has it ever occured to me to "hate" MR nor would I ever wish anything bad on her or anyone else. Ana Lucia is a fictional carachter so if she were indeed monster food at some point I would not feel one bit bad about cheering the monster on. I don't like the carachter and I don't like what she's "brought" to the show and I'm as entitled to express that opion as you are to express the oppisit. 90% of what I post here is tongue in cheek, sorry if that got lost but while Ana Haters have expressed there opions on Ana some of the Ana Supporters seem much more willing to insult the Ana Haters instead of supporting the carachter and I think that is completely uncalled for.

[Khan]

Goodness Wickedsweet you sound a tad angry. I noticed that some AnaL lovers are going after the AnaL haters too.
More than one time I've had to sheath my fangs at some of the posts, but it's all in fun for me and I want to keep it that way. I don't see any point in flaming those who like her.I would however like to bash the idiot(s) who hired the monster. :)
I'm surprised at the number of people who think if you can't stand someone you have a problem.There is a high level of anger right now because a lot of us are frustrated having waited for months for Lost to return only to be disappointed by having to put up with someone we find detestable week after week.
Those who like her can't seem to understand that she's ruining the show for those who don't, and we're seriously pissed. So we growl,grumble,and occasionally bite,but we wouldn't pick up a gun and lay waste to anything that moves or doesn't obey our every desire unlike thier favorite mini ogre.

[wickedsweet]

Goodness Wickedsweet you sound a tad angry

Not at all. I was just repling to a post. If I was angry there would have been cursing and many PO'd smilies to deal with.

[poochie]

You know what you guys are so pathetic, give it up. She shot Shannon only because she thought she was THE OTHERS. You are so eager to accuse her of so much but yet you forget about what the others have done also. And if you havent forgotten she got shot three times, lost her first child and lost someone who is suppose to love her.

GROW UP ALL OF U!!!

[Brian]

You know what you guys are so pathetic, give it up. She shot Shannon only because she thought she was THE OTHERS. You are so eager to accuse her of so much but yet you forget about what the others have done also. And if you havent forgotten she got shot three times, lost her first child and lost someone who is suppose to love her.
poochie,

First of all, we might be a little silly around here sometimes but this is all in good fun so please watch your tone. Homer says it best when he says, "Attack the post, not the poster."

GROW UP ALL OF U!!!

Second, please don't use netspeak here. It's kind of frowned upon. Thank you.

[poochie]

Yea it is all fun when you make rude comments on a character who done nothing but tried to save people's lives! And all I wanted to know is why you guys hate her, thats all!!

[boonian androphile]

I personally dont hate Ana Lucia. But it is obvious that she must be watched. And dont give her a key to the arsenal.

[Brian]

Yea it is all fun when you make rude comments on a character who done nothing but tried to save people's lives! And all I wanted to know is why you guys hate her, thats all!!
I don't hate her at all. As for everyone else, they have their reasons. It's a TV show. Some people like certain characters and dislike others. It happens every day. As you can tell from my sig, I can't stand Charlie but I do like Ana-Lucia. We make rude comments here, that's what we do best. However, it's in response to a character, plot line, etc.

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

Yea it is all fun when you make rude comments on a character who done nothing but tried to save people's lives! And all I wanted to know is why you guys hate her, thats all!!

As a fellow Ana supporter, let me offer some advice. :) You're a lot more likely to convince people to like Ana if you take a calm, logical, and diplomatic stance on the issue. The more polite and respectful you are, the more likely people will find it worth their time to listen to your opinions. And hey, you might even make some friends on the other side of the fence. :)

[Khan]

As a fellow Ana supporter, let me offer some advice. :) You're a lot more likely to convince people to like Ana if you take a calm, logical, and diplomatic stance on the issue. The more polite and respectful you are, the more likely people will find it worth their time to listen to your opinions. And hey, you might even make some friends on the other side of the fence. :)
Well said.:clap:

[Ana-Lucia's boyfriend]

I understand why you can have a problem with a character on the show, but to start a hate-club is a bit too much in my opinion. Is there any other hate-clubs? One of my friends, very devoted to Lost, is with no shadow of a doubt sure of that John Locke is EVIL. Do you guys think he should start a No more John Locke Hate Club on this board?

[Khan]

I understand why you can have a problem with a character on the show, but to start a hate-club is a bit too much in my opinion. Is there any other hate-clubs? One of my friends, very devoted to Lost, is with no shadow of a doubt sure of that John Locke is EVIL. Do you guys think he should start a No more John Locke Hate Club on this board?
There are other clubs that center around the dislike of a particular character. They may not called themselves hate clubs though.
AnaL has invoked strong feelings of intense dislike in a lot of people. Even those who are not a part of our club has used the words hate,despise,etc, in thier posts.
For some of us she's ruining our favorite show. For those who like/love her she's an addition. Of couse if you like someone you can't really understand why someone else would want to find a little girl and her dog to land a house on them.

[wickedsweet]

Do you guys think he should start a No more John Locke Hate Club on this board?

I think he should start a "Worship Wickedsweet" love club but he's free to do otherwise.

[poochie]

Exactly how is she ruining the show, you guys have enough nerve to say "feed her to the others" but you have nothing to back up your comments!!
And you cant say because she shot Shannon because we all know why and if you were in her position i think you would do the same!!!

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

I think he should start a "Worship Wickedsweet" love club but he's free to do otherwise.

:worshippy

[wickedsweet]

^^^Thanks for being there for me redshirt:rotfl: :awwhug: :goodvibes

[wickedsweet]

poochie said

Exactly how is she ruining the show, you guys have enough nerve to say "feed her to the others" but you have nothing to back up your comments!!
And you cant say because she shot Shannon because we all know why and if you were in her position i think you would do the same!!!

Perhaps you simply came alittle late to this debate. My views as well as those of many other's here, both for and against Ana, are all over this board. I don't think anyone's trying to ignore your demand for a "why I hate Ana" defense, it's just that this is an old debate that has gone no where. Everyone on both sides have put forth their best arguments, both sides have made valid points and I don't think a single mind has changed, I think most of us here have simply agreed to disagree.:)

[Warthawg1]

Um.. excuse me but I think my comments about the character of Ana Lucia have been very well thought out and as fair as opinion can be.

I haven't really warmed up to the character because I find her too one dimensional, and a walking stereotype of the tough chick.

I haven't warmed up to the actress because the actress has yet to show me the subtlety in her actions and looks that make me view the character any differently. I mention that because for example we have tough girl Kate, but Evangeline has always portrayed her in such a manner that I didn't get that same sterotypical tough girl vibe from her.

As far as other "hate" clubs, someone mentioned a hate John Locke club and asked if that would be next. Well... it already exists courtesy of Homer Noodleman. Someone also mentioned a hate LOST club, and while none may exist by name, you can find many threads on this board talking negatively about the show, it's direction, and it's writers.

For the most part, criticism is a part of a discussion. I only object to it when the poster has nothing but negative comments to say about everything, and I think most people in the "do not like Ana" clique are fans of other characters, and fans of the show as well. While they may not like Ana, or the actress that plays her.. they still have many very positive things to say about other characters and the show in general.

[littlemonster]

I understand why you can have a problem with a character on the show, but to start a hate-club is a bit too much in my opinion. Is there any other hate-clubs? One of my friends, very devoted to Lost, is with no shadow of a doubt sure of that John Locke is EVIL. Do you guys think he should start a No more John Locke Hate Club on this board?

I dont believe anyone would stop you from doing so. You probably wouldnt get as many members because most people actually like him.

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

I dont believe anyone would stop you from doing so. You probably wouldnt get as many members because most people actually like him.

Yeah, I've been tempted to start an anti-Jack club... but too many people like him. :)

[Hodgepodge]

...Everyone on both sides have put forth their best arguments, both sides have made valid points and I don't think a single mind has changed...You know Wickedsweet, finally I can despute your statement that no one has changed his/her mind about Ana-Lucia. Here's a post from a thread I started about Two sides of the same coin (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11351)
Hello, my name is Mel. I am 33 years old and I am a recovering Ana-Hater.

Wow! That is some can of worms you opened up Hodge! I think I have some blood splattered on my shirt. Whew!

Seriously, I am trying to not bash ANY of our characters anymore. I am reformed. Ok, I am a work in progress. I never trusted Kate from the beginning but I do find her character more appealing that Ana. Is it because TPTB fed me a big helping of and I'm being led around on their leash. Maybe. I just like the show and I'll go where they take me with it.

Let's all hug.
So I say, we should take Uhavemel suggestion! Let's all hug! :D

[Warthawg1]

I'll also note that I made a promise to at least give her a few more episodes to change my mind, and I disavowed all pointless hating on MR.

[TheBigCat]

Wow. I didn't realize how big this thread had gotten, though it's not surprizing considering the sheer visceral reaction that AL has generated. I have no doubt that TPTB are aware of this thread, and I wonder if they are now regarding Michelle as a casting error.

[Hodgepodge]

Wow. I didn't realize how big this thread had gotten, though it's not surprizing considering the sheer visceral reaction that AL has generated. I have no doubt that TPTB are aware of this thread, and I wonder if they are now regarding Michelle as a casting error.TBC, I think they got exactly what they wanted! Even Michelle Rodriguez knew what she was getting into. She's mentioned it in articles I've read. She's aware her character is hated by millions. And, actually loves the idea!

TPTB wanted to stir the pot, so to speak. Bring a little controversy to the show. Of course, increase ratings. Well, as of the the November sweeps, Lost is the number 4 most watched show on television. If I'm not mistaken, and if I am, I'm sure Spidey will correct me, they were number 6 or 8 after the 2004 November sweeps.

[guylikeu]

Wow. I didn't realize how big this thread had gotten, though it's not surprizing considering the sheer visceral reaction that AL has generated. I have no doubt that TPTB are aware of this thread, and I wonder if they are now regarding Michelle as a casting error.

^Not at all. Half this thread is of epople defending her, so there's no need just to look at the topic and number of replies. The fact that there are as many pro-AL threads here shows that the character of Ana has been a success more than they thought - everyone has an opinion on here & she brings out such strong feelings because she's such a strong character

[wickedsweet]

hodgepodge said
Quote:
Originally Posted by wickedsweet
...Everyone on both sides have put forth their best arguments, both sides have made valid points and I don't think a single mind has changed...

You know Wickedsweet, finally I can despute your statement that no one has changed his/her mind about Ana-Lucia. Here's a post from a thread I started about Two sides of the same coin

I stand corrected.:)

[Florimel]

Wow. I didn't realize how big this thread had gotten, though it's not surprizing considering the sheer visceral reaction that AL has generated. I have no doubt that TPTB are aware of this thread, and I wonder if they are now regarding Michelle as a casting error.

I seriously hope they are regarding this as a major casting error. I think Lost is the best television show I have ever watched, and I have been watching for more years that most of you have been alive. The creation of this character is the first time I have completely disliked something about Lost.

The character of Ana-Lucia is has nothing either redeeming or redeemable about her. There are a few other characters I haven't liked very much on the show, but I have been able to find some degree of compassion and understanding for every one of them. There is nothing the writers can do to make me sympathize with Ana-Lucia.

Lost is too good to go for sensationalism such as this. I look forward to the day I will see the last of Ana-Lucia.

[Hodgepodge]

Florimel, let me welcome you to Lost-TV. I'm sure you're going to enjoy the community. Make sure to read the Welcome forum, it's easy to get lost. Now to your post.


The character of Ana-Lucia is has nothing either redeeming or redeemable about her. There are a few other characters I haven't liked very much on the show, but I have been able to find some degree of compassion and understanding for every one of them. There is nothing the writers can do to make me sympathize with Ana-Lucia.You sound so adamant. I don't want you to think I'm going to try and change your mind about Ana-Lucia. From the tone of your post, I don't think I could. But can you elaborate on why this is the first thing you've completely disliked about Lost?

And again, welcome!

[LoStMyMiNd]

I seriously hope they are regarding this as a major casting error. I think Lost is the best television show I have ever watched, and I have been watching for more years that most of you have been alive. The creation of this character is the first time I have completely disliked something about Lost.

The character of Ana-Lucia is has nothing either redeeming or redeemable about her. There are a few other characters I haven't liked very much on the show, but I have been able to find some degree of compassion and understanding for every one of them. There is nothing the writers can do to make me sympathize with Ana-Lucia.

Lost is too good to go for sensationalism such as this. I look forward to the day I will see the last of Ana-Lucia.

:yeah: AMEN!

[guylikeu]

There is nothing the writers can do to make me sympathize with Ana-Lucia.

I very much disagree with this. We know next to nothing about her. There are plenty of things the writers can (and probably will) do to winn veiwers over. We dont have a clue on the misery she's endured in her life. For all we know, she was pregnant becasue she was gang-raped and tortured, we just dont know. To say I'm never gonna sympathise with this character, ever - you're just setting yourself up for a fall there

And I'm aiming this at all the anti-AL people here ;)

[Khan]

I very much disagree with this. We know next to nothing about her. There are plenty of things the writers can (and probably will) do to winn veiwers over. We dont have a clue on the misery she's endured in her life. For all we know, she was pregnant becasue she was gang-raped and tortured, we just dont know. To say I'm never gonna sympathise with this character, ever - you're just setting yourself up for a fall there

And I'm aiming this at all the anti-AL people here ;)
Hi I'm taking the hit and moving on:)
The problem with what you're saying about her possible hellish past is that the worst people in history for the most part had horrible experiences. Many people go through tremendous pain and don't turn into a sneering little monster like her. I can't look at the Hitlers,Saddams,etc and say "oh poor baby we'll forget about all the pain you've inflicted on others because you've been hurt somewhere in your life",there's no excuse or reason to like someone simply because they suffered when they behave like her. And before the Anal lovers say it,I know she hasn't the mass scale evil of my examples,but she's in a smaller group.If she was the head of a nation instead of a handfull she would be a tyrant equal to any.
I'm amazed at the people who defend her because they like her or the actress.She is what the writers wanted,a heartless savage. She's proven she's willing to turn on those she was suppose to be protecting if they didn't obey her.I wonder if the Anal lovers had to be around someone like that if they would feel the same way and be as quick to gloss over whatever she does.

[Warthawg1]

she brings out such strong feelings because she's such a strong character

I take exception to that comment. If you read the actual comments, many of the negative ones are not because those people making them think she is a strong character. A strong character is one that people love to hate, like Arvin Sloane from Alias. Many people love, and/or hate Arvin, but they do such because he does such a great job as an actor. Even those who hate him
acknowledge the strength of his evil character, and don't think the show would be better off without him like they do with Ana/MR.

We dont have a clue on the misery she's endured in her life.

Mmmm.. yes we do. We know at least that she was shot, and lost her baby as a result. We were also shown the "Ana was crying so we know she has feelings" scene. Those were the first attempts to make her a more sympathetic character, but for most people it just didn't work. Can they do more to make us like her, or feel more sympathetic towards her character? Yes, of course they can..... but we do have some clues already about the sympathetic side of her character, and unfortunately it's just not working well for everyone who has issues with Ana.

[wickedsweet]

warthawg1 said
I take exception to that comment. If you read the actual comments, many of the negative ones are not because those people making them think she is a strong character. A strong character is one that people love to hate, like Arvin Sloane from Alias.

That's the main problem for me. Ana is not a love to hate carachter. I don't love to hate her, I wish I did. Instead I just grimace everytime she comes on screen and hope her scene will be over soon. I don't know if the fault is with the acting or the writing, most likely a mixture of the two, I just know I would love to see her written off the show.

[Warthawg1]

Well I am willing to give them a few more chances to make me either care, or to actually love hating the character of Ana. I just wanted to point out some flaws in those statements I highlighted.

[azteclady]

As usual, I'm days late and plenty of dollars short to this particular thread. Ah, well...

Anyway - I find it funny when I read posts saying "all of you Ana Lucía's haters do insert offending action," or "all of you Ana Lucía's lovers do insert offending action" because I've seen as many well thoughtout, well written posts on both sides of the issue as I've seen pithy, poorly written, and insulting posts.

As far as the character goes, I haven't read yet all the threads on Ana Lucía, but there's one started by drabauer (I believe it's called "Ana Lucía is dangerously unstable) that I found interesting and worth reading, since (if I recall correctly) most of the contributors took the time to explain their reasoning to either support, explain, justify, or condemn Ana Lucía's actions.

Personally, I am leery of statements such as "there's no way the writers can redeem Ana Lucía," because I remember the almost universal dislike for Shannon for most of the first season of LOST, and yet now a hefty percentage of posters here seem to mourn her as a truly beloved character.The point being, if the writers could make a sizable portion of the viewership change their opinion of a character many of them had declared hateful, despicable, bitchy, etc. then we should be prepared for them to try to repeat the trick.

I agree that the purpose of introducing the tailies, Ana Lucía in particular, was to provide the writers with more controversial characters. They need fresh meat, since several of the characters that the audience loved to hate have been either redeemed (Jin), or are on their way to redemption (Sawyer), or have been killed off (both Boone and Shannon). (I still think that Shannon served better as the character people loved to hate, and think that her redemption was contrived and unconvincing, by the way ;))

I don't feel strongly about Ana Lucía myself (and I believe that is a true minority around here!), but after careful consideration I have to say that I don't care for Michelle Rodríguez' portrayal of her. I find MR's acting ability subpar compared to that of most of the cast, and completely lacking in subtlety. Someone else called her Ms. Grimace, and after rewatching a couple of scenes, I've to say that I see where the moniker comes from - I'd say that 9 out of 10 shots of MR's face are grimaces.

So I'm with TheBigCat: I think MR was completely miscast as Ana Lucía.

As far as the "hate clubs" go, I feel I should direct those protesting them to Boone's forum - this was the forum where the phrase "Boone Beatings" was coined, after all. Then there were all the "Shannon is a slut (or similar)," "I don't want Jack as my doctor," "Kate is a bitch," etc threads. And if memory serves, S.T.U.D.F.E.E. was created early during season one. So, "hate insert character clubs" are an honored tradition around here. The only rule is to attack the character not the people who hold the opposite opinion about it.

[guylikeu]

The problem with what you're saying about her possible hellish past is that the worst people in history for the most part had horrible experiences.

And before the Anal lovers say it,I know she hasn't the mass scale evil of my examples,but she's in a smaller group.

Well, as you say yourself, that's a very extreme example, and one which I think is wholly inapproprite in this case. Instead, if we look at the courts, often people get reduced sentences or quashed convictions if they are found to have mitigating circumstances.
I'm not saying that anything that might have happened to her justifies her to go around killing people or whatever. The comment made was that "I'll never ever sympathise with her". I dont think anyone should say that, because we dont know where the show is heading. She could be kidnapped by the others, and subjected the most awful painful torture. If that happens, and people cheer, I will be physically sick and stop visiting this board


What has AL done that is "evil"?


If she was the head of a nation instead of a handfull she would be a tyrant equal to any.

^That's your opinion, and I disagree strongly. She has repeadtly tried to help her group and keep everyone safe. She killed a woman by accident, and feels guilty. She isn't a psychopath


I'm amazed at the people who defend her because they like her or the actress.She is what the writers wanted,a heartless savage.She's proven she's willing to turn on those she was suppose to be protecting if they didn't obey her.I wonder if the Anal lovers had to be around someone like that if they would feel the same way and be as quick to gloss over whatever she does.

Like I've said before, if I was on the island, I would want to be in Jacks group. My reason for liking her is because I think she's a great addition to the show, and the hatred she's inspired is totally unjustified. I wouldnt want her as my best friends, but I'd happily watch her character week after week. This is a TV show and I want to be entertained dammit! :cool:


Warthawg1 - I think you misunderstand what I mean by strong character. I didn't say good character, because I know people disagree with that. By strong I mean she's very in your face, and forces you to have an opinion on her. Love her or hate her, you cant ignore Anna. For example, Charlie in this season hasn't been a strong character - but that doesn't mean he hasn't been a good character.
I hope I make myself clearer :)


We dont have a clue on the misery she's endured in her life.

Mmmm.. yes we do. We know at least that she was shot, and lost her baby as a result.

^I meant that we dont know what happened before this. Why are things so tense wwith her Mother? Why did she break up with her boyfriend? Has she been pregnant before? Has anything like the shooting happened before? Where's her dad?
I have a feeling she's been raped at some point, or at least something awful to make her a hard-ass

[guylikeu]

Personally, I am leery of statements such as "there's no way the writers can redeem Ana Lucía," because I remember the almost universal dislike for Shannon for most of the first season of LOST, and yet now a hefty percentage of posters here seem to mourn her as a truly beloved character.The point being, if the writers could make a sizable portion of the viewership change their opinion of a character many of them had declared hateful, despicable, bitchy, etc. then we should be prepared for them to try to repeat the trick.

^Thank you! That's what I was trying to say, but you put it better ;)

As far as the "hate clubs" go, I feel I should direct those protesting them to Boone's forum - this was the forum where the phrase "Boone Beatings" was coined, after all. Then there were all the "Shannon is a slut (or similar)," "I don't want Jack as my doctor," "Kate is a bitch," etc threads. And if memory serves, S.T.U.D.F.E.E. was created early during season one. So, "hate insert character clubs" are an honored tradition around here. The only rule is to attack the character not the people who hold the opposite opinion about it.

^My problem with the hate club is mainly use of the word "hate". I find hate a strong & digusting word. I never use it in my life, because I think to hate something is as strong an emotion as to love something. Hate is a passion. The word hate is one of the worse insults to give someone.
Also, those clubs you meantioned are meant in fun. If you watch back season 1, it really is funny how Boone constantly gets beaten up! But I'm sure no-one actually wished genuine harm upon his character

Alot of people in the AL club have talked about Ana & Michelle in such degrotatory ways, its sickening. Things like, "She deserved to lose the baby", "The kid is better off" - alot of people would actually be happy if Michelle died tomorrow judging from some of things said about her. Some people sont just want her off the show, they want her leave the show in a painful, violent way

I'm not saying everyone in the hate club feels like this, but some people veiw this club as being more seriosu than other people, who see it as more light-hearted

[azteclady]

guylikeyou, I would agree with your dislike for the use of the word hate in the hate clubs names if most people actually felt hatred for the character or, in some cases, the actor portraying it. My experience though is that the majority of people merely dislike one or the other, and take the opportunity to have fun with that feeling.

Yes, there are extremists, but that's life for you. For those of us who feel less passionately about it: learn to deal with it or you'll get an ulcer ;) Or, to quote a favorite inane statement oft read in this forum: "get a life, it's just a tv show" (that, by the way, is intended as gentle sarcasm, people, not as an attack)

Now, you said:
"the hatred she's inspired is totally unjustified"

I must once again refer you to drabauer's thread. Plenty of posters have given what they consider compelling reasons to at least dislike Ana Lucía. The fact that you don't consider them compelling doesn't automatically make said reasons meaningless, see? Just as the fact that others don't agree with your point of view doesn't render it meaningless.

[Khan]

Hi Guylikeu. I've read your post and thought I address some of the things you brought up.
The examples I gave are extreme only in terms of scale.You can be a nazi leader or a nazi prison guard it's still the same mentality, the same willingness to cause others to suffer under your power.I only use "nazi" as an example of cruel power inflicted on a nation. In this scale she inflicts it on her little group. She would if given the power be a vicious as any tyrant we've known,who often use the excuse of protection as a reason for thier actions.She's shown a quick willingness to torture, be sadistic,and kill those who oppose her.What more does it take to make her evil? As for Shannons death,it could be an accident,but she's too quick to kill, she knew they were close to the Fusies and when did any of the Others ran through the jungle yelling someones name? I don't buy her feeling guilty about anything,it's always someone else that's to blame, it's all about her. She is a supreme control freak/egotist.
Hardass is one thing, I know people that are hard as a rock and still don't have that attitude MR portrays in almost everything she does. It's more the attitude of a gang member or a pimp, not just hard but nasty.
Which leads me to my final point I think it's MR making a difficult role more vile them it has to be,she can't pull it off IMO without turning some of our stomachs. It's impossible to see her ever getting rid of that sneer or dropping "I'm the queen of the world, bow now" persona.

[guylikeu]

Now, you said:
"[/SIZE][/SIZE]the hatred she's inspired is totally unjustified"

I must once again refer you to drabauer's thread. Plenty of posters have given what they consider compelling reasons to at least dislike Ana Lucía. The fact that you don't consider them compelling doesn't automatically make said reasons meaningless, see? Just as the fact that others don't agree with your point of view doesn't render it meaningless.

I agree with you, but that's not what I meant. The kind of comments made are not justified. I understand people not liking her, that's totally justified. But the kind of fanatical, deep-seated hatred for a character on a show is not, IMO, justified at all

[guylikeu]

She's shown a quick willingness to torture, be sadistic,and kill those who oppose her.What more does it take to make her evil? As for Shannons death,it could be an accident,but she's too quick to kill, she knew they were close to the Fusies and when did any of the Others ran through the jungle yelling someones name? I don't buy her feeling guilty about anything,it's always someone else that's to blame, it's all about her. She is a supreme control freak/egotist.

When has she killed someone who opposed her? She killed Goodwin in self-defense. Are you trying to say she only killed Goodwin because he opposed her? :confused:
And as for her actions with Nathan, I'll bet that 90% of the veiwers at that point were glad she put him in the hole - believing, as she did, he was an other. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but we should be very careful when using it.
And let's not forget that everyone in the Tailes (eccept Eko) supported AL in her actions, and even encouraged her.

I assume you also despise Sayid for what he has done in the past? And what he did to Sawyer? Sayid's 'crimes' are far more numerous than AL, so why not go after him?



I think it's MR making a difficult role more vile them it has to be,she can't pull it off IMO without turning some of our stomachs. It's impossible to see her ever getting rid of that sneer or dropping "I'm the queen of the worl, bow now" persona.

So if Michelle did a good episode, and she acted differently (And acted well, in your opinion) you wouldn't be opposed to saying - "MR did a really good job in this episode!". Or would you stick woth your current opinions regardless of what happens from here on out?

[Khan]

When has she killed someone who opposed her? She killed Goodwin in self-defense. Are you trying to say she only killed Goodwin because he opposed her? :confused:
And as for her actions with Nathan, I'll bet that 90% of the veiwers at that point were glad she put him in the hole - believing, as she did, he was an other. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but we should be very careful when using it.
And let's not forget that everyone in the Tailes (eccept Eko) supported AL in her actions, and even encouraged her.
I assume you also despise Sayid for what he has done in the past? And what he did to Sawyer? Sayid's 'crimes' are far more numerous than AL, so why not go after him?
So if Michelle did a good episode, and she acted differently (And acted well, in your opinion) you wouldn't be opposed to saying - "MR did a really good job in this episode!". Or would you stick woth your current opinions regardless of what happens from here on out?
I don't despise Sayid but what he did with Jacks help tainted them both to me. That was dropped way to soon,perhaps TPTBs wanted to back off because of the racial aspect since 9/11.Although they showed courage by doing it in the first place.It's all about the attitude that makes her even worse than it's written.
The talies support? No one gets to be a dictator without someone supporting them.
I didn't mean to imply she had killed them for opposing her,she threatened to kill them if they didn't do what she wanted. What kind of person does that when they can't get thier way? I'm not buying the circumstances caused her to be as over the top as she is.She's more like the Others than the Losties.
We have two separate things going on here one a character written to be savage and the actress who is like nails on a chalk board to some of us.
Another person in the role wouldn't make me think the characters actions are excusable. I don't think MR can act in any other way so I can't imagine her being able to do a good job. She's like that guy who sings She Bang( I think that's the songs name)so badly,I don't expect him to carry a tune. She has a thug persona and seems to like it that way. Some of us don't like it, the rest will enjoy. That's just the way it is.

[guylikeu]

What about the torture Sayid did during the Gulf War?
Can anyone truly redeem themselves in your (and others) eyes?


The talies support? No one gets to be a dictator without someone supporting them.
I didn't mean to imply she had killed them for opposing her,she threatened to kill them if they didn't do what she wanted. What kind of person does that when they can't get thier way?

You're going to have to remind me with. When did Ana say she would kill someone if they didn't do as she said? All I got from the Other 48 Days & Collision is that Ana just wanted to protect her people and would hurt someone who threatened her.



I don't think MR can act in any other way so I can't imagine her being able to do a good job. She's like that guy who sings She Bang( I think that's the songs name)so badly,I don't expect him to carry a tune. She has a thug persona and seems to like it that way. Some of us don't like it, the rest will enjoy. That's just the way it is.

Ricky Martin is who youre thinking of

Let's just say, hypothetically, you were watching an episode of Lost, and you got moved by Michelle's acting. Would you admit to that and give her her props, or not?

[wickedsweet]

Well I am willing to give them a few more chances to make me either care, or to actually love hating the character of Ana. I just wanted to point out some flaws in those statements I highlighted.


I was hoping her flashback epi would do so for me. It didn't. I'm still hoping TPTB make this carachter more "enjoyable" be it as a villian or a hero or somewhere in between but as of the last epi that hasn't even been hinted at for me personally. Now if I could just make TPTB understand that their show should revolve around my opions...;) :)

[Khan]

What about the torture Sayid did during the Gulf War?
Can anyone truly redeem themselves in your (and others) eyes?
Ricky Martin is who youre thinking of
Let's just say, hypothetically, you were watching an episode of Lost, and you got moved by Michelle's acting. Would you admit to that and give her her props, or not?
Yes absolutelyto both questions . However with MRs constant snide attitude I can't she her being enjoyable.
No not Ricky Martin. I was talking about the Korean gentleman who became famous by doing the most awful tuneless cover of the Rick's song for the American Idol tryouts.

[Warthawg1]

Warthawg1 - I think you misunderstand what I mean by strong character. I didn't say good character, because I know people disagree with that. By strong I mean she's very in your face, and forces you to have an opinion on her.

Actually, I didn't misunderstand what you meant. In using my example of Arvin Sloane, I was indicating a character that forces you to have an opinion of them. What I said in reply to that comment you made was that many peoples dislike of Ana goes way beyond that, and I stand by that statement.

I have not cared for the character, and it's not because she's strong in that she forces me to have a galvinized opinion towards her.

I mean nothing personal by my next statement, but if i did misunderstand you; it can only be because that which you define as "strong", I define as poorly written, overly stereotypical, and quite possibly poorly acted out.

I really don't know how to say it any differently. I'm willing to give her more time, but that's how I feel at this point.

[wickedsweet]

guylikeu said
My reason for liking her is because I think she's a great addition to the show, and the hatred she's inspired is totally unjustified. I wouldnt want her as my best friends, but I'd happily watch her character week after week. This is a TV show and I want to be entertained dammit!

The hatred towards her is only unjustified if you like Ana. I could argue that offering the carachter support is, in my opion unjustified, and be every bit as correct as you.
And your right this is a TV show and I want to be entertained as well but for me Ana Lucia is interfering with my enjoyment of this show.

^My problem with the hate club is mainly use of the word "hate". I find hate a strong & digusting word. I never use it in my life, because I think to hate something is as strong an emotion as to love something. Hate is a passion. The word hate is one of the worse insults to give someone.
Also, those clubs you meantioned are meant in fun. If you watch back season 1, it really is funny how Boone constantly gets beaten up! But I'm sure no-one actually wished genuine harm upon his character

While your are perfectly entitled to your feelings towards the word "hate" I just don't share it in the context of this debate. I'm pretty certain that Ana Lucia, being a fictional carachter, is in no way hurt by any of this and I want to be clear that I hold no ill will towards MR, she's an actress playing a role. I don't hate MR but I can't stand Ana Lucia.

alot of people would actually be happy if Michelle died tomorrow judging from some of things said about her. Some people sont just want her off the show, they want her leave the show in a painful, violent way

I don't think I've seen a single post saying that anyone wishes death upon MR. People have called her a bad actress but I don't think anyone has actually wished harm upon MR.
As far as how Ana leaves the show, as long as she leaves I'll be happy but if she were to indeed be eaten by the monster or meet some horrible demise, even better, as long as no "real" people were injured in the process.

Why is that any different than you saying how much fun the Boone Beatings of season 1 were? A young kid getting beaten is somehow better than a murderer meeting violence as well?

[Warthawg1]

I don't really "hate" anyone, but it's easier to type than "strong dislike".

[wickedsweet]

guylikeu said
And as for her actions with Nathan, I'll bet that 90% of the veiwers at that point were glad she put him in the hole - believing, as she did, he was an other.

If that's true it's only because the viewers knew about the Ethan/Cananda red herring while Ana did not. If you take that out of the picture then Ana threw Nathan into the pit because he spent, what she felt was an inordinate amout of time alone and because after a terrible plane crash people didn't remember seeing him on the plane, I'm sure there would have been quite a few people on the plane that no one remembered seeing.

When did Ana say she would kill someone if they didn't do as she said?

Hasn't she said things like that all along in regards to Sawyer/Jin and Micheal? I may be mistaken but I also beleive she threatened Micheal when he said he was leaving while Ana had Sayid tied to the tree but I could be wrong about that.

[wickedsweet]

azteclady said

As usual, I'm days late and plenty of dollars short to this particular thread. Ah, well...

Well, your post have been a more than welcome addition and i'm pretty certain I'd feel the same way even if I disagreed with them:)

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

I've always said that one should not judge a character by the character's actions or attitudes, but rather by what dynamic that character brings to the story.

Of course, I have recently discovered myself to be a hypocrit while reading the novel, The Stranger. :eye-poppi :hammersel

Well, so much for that.

I suppose that sometimes a character just rubs some people the wrong way, and I think that's what's happened here. I don't think there's any need for anyone to justify anything. Some people like Ana, some people don't, some people just don't care. That's clean, cut, and dry.

I personally believe Ana to be a great addition to the show, but that's just my opinion. No character crusades here. :)

[Florimel]

Okay, it was I who said the writers can do nothing to redeem Ana-Lucia for me. I stand by it.

I was not one of those who despised Sawyer or Shannon in the early days. I could see there was more there than appeared obvious. Same with Sayid or Jin or some others.

Ana-Lucia hunted down the man who shot her and executed him. This was after he had confessed and would have stood trial.

IF he had gone to trial and been freed on some technicality or other and she went after him at that time, THEN I would have understood and possibly sympathized with her actions. Instead she planned and carried out the same kind of murder her assailant had done.

Non-redeemable to me no matter what the writers do.

[azteclady]

Now if I could just make TPTB understand that their show should revolve around my opions...;) :)

:eek::eek::eek:What, you mean it doesn't? :eek::eek::eek: (and thank you for the nice words)

And I'm with you (and with Warthawg) regarding the use of the word "hate" in this context.

As far as differentiating between Michelle Rodríguez, the actress, and Ana Lucía, the character, I think that it is rather clear that the overwhelming majority of posters can dislike one or the other, but are also perfectly aware of the fact that these are two different entities/beings/people. As far as I've been able to ascertain, no one in the forum (with the possible exception of the GD "LOST stars arrested" thread, for reasons that are actually pretty substantial IMO), wishes bodily harm to the former yet would be rather happy to see the latter come to a quick end.

[guylikeu]

Actually, I didn't misunderstand what you meant. In using my example of Arvin Sloane, I was indicating a character that forces you to have an opinion of them. What I said in reply to that comment you made was that many peoples dislike of Ana goes way beyond that, and I stand by that statement.

I have not cared for the character, and it's not because she's strong in that she forces me to have a galvinized opinion towards her.

I mean nothing personal by my next statement, but if i did misunderstand you; it can only be because that which you define as "strong", I define as poorly written, overly stereotypical, and quite possibly poorly acted out.

I really don't know how to say it any differently. I'm willing to give her more time, but that's how I feel at this point.

Lol, Ok I'm with you now. I'm glad you said you're willing to give hjer more time, that's all I ask. If Ana begins to annoy me, I wont hesitate to say she should leave the show

[guylikeu]

I don't really "hate" anyone, but it's easier to type than "strong dislike".

Well, the club could always be called

PROUD MEMBER OF THE NO MORE ANaL CLUB

^pretty much has same effect without that word

[guylikeu]

Wickedsweet, I can tell we're not going to agree! But I do enjoy debating with you ;)

[QUOTE=wickedsweet]
The hatred towards her is only unjustified if you like Ana. I could argue that offering the carachter support is, in my opion unjustified, and be every bit as correct as you.

^I just meant the extent of the hatred is unjustified IMO. I completely understand and support people who dont like her. After all, we'd have nothing to talk about if we all agreed. But I think with some people, and some comments, there is genuine malace present.



While your are perfectly entitled to your feelings towards the word "hate" I just don't share it in the context of this debate. I'm pretty certain that Ana Lucia, being a fictional carachter, is in no way hurt by any of this and I want to be clear that I hold no ill will towards MR, she's an actress playing a role. I don't hate MR but I can't stand Ana Lucia.

^ I understand that :)



I don't think I've seen a single post saying that anyone wishes death upon MR. People have called her a bad actress but I don't think anyone has actually wished harm upon MR.

^Maybe that's true. But I certainly get the impression people harm upon her. Could just be me though. Ignore me :)


As far as how Ana leaves the show, as long as she leaves I'll be happy but if she were to indeed be eaten by the monster or meet some horrible demise, even better, as long as no "real" people were injured in the process.

Why is that any different than you saying how much fun the Boone Beatings of season 1 were? A young kid getting beaten is somehow better than a murderer meeting violence as well?


^I understand your point completely. If something's meant in fun, like saying, "I'd love Ana to eb eaten this week!" or something liek that, that's fine with me - even funny sometimes. But like I already said, there seems to be some true malice meant there. There's no malace in laughing at Boone constantly getting punched, it's just funny!

[guylikeu]

Hasn't she said things like that all along in regards to Sawyer/Jin and Micheal? I may be mistaken but I also beleive she threatened Micheal when he said he was leaving while Ana had Sayid tied to the tree but I could be wrong about that.

^Maybe, but it's just big talk, and we know they all have "trust issues". Let's not forget Eko beat them unconscious with a big stick

[guylikeu]

Florimel - That's fine :) I just want people to keep an open mind, and wait and see where her character goes even if they hate her now

[guylikeu]

Anyway, my main point is just not to take things so seriously. I certianly hope no-one thinks I'm upset or raging or anything! I just love the show, and want everyone else to enjoy it as much as I do ;)

[wickedsweet]

azteclady posted
Quote:
Originally Posted by wickedsweet
Now if I could just make TPTB understand that their show should revolve around my opions...


What, you mean it doesn't? (and thank you for the nice words)

Saddly, until we see SAWYER in a shower scene instead of Kate I'd have to say, not yet:weeping: :sadwalk: and your welcome.

guylikeu said
Wickedsweet, I can tell we're not going to agree! But I do enjoy debating with you

And I feel the same way.:) :goodvibes

There's no malace in laughing at Boone constantly getting punched, it's just funny!

Ahh, poor pretty boy Boone, shall we enjoy a moment of silence for the prettiest guy to ever to be killed off of a TV show:sorry: ;)

[azteclady]

Regarding Boone's death:

That was a mistake, pure and simple.

More so because they killed Shannon just a few short episodes later. I mean, the only acceptable reason (IMO) to kill off Boone when they did would be to make Shannon look good, but now they don't even have that excuse.

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

Saddly, until we see SAWYER in a shower scene instead of Kate I'd have to say, not yet

:itmdrool: :pant:
:heartpump

[guylikeu]

Regarding Boone's death:

That was a mistake, pure and simple.

More so because they killed Shannon just a few short episodes later. I mean, the only acceptable reason (IMO) to kill off Boone when they did would be to make Shannon look good, but now they don't even have that excuse.

^I agree. They should have kept in Boone's character


Why dont they just have an episode with a big mudbath and chuck in all the male actors? for 42 minutes? :heartpump

[wickedsweet]

Holy cow we three agree about Boone:faintthud

I don't think killing off Shannon made much sense either. Why form a Shannon/Walt connection if they weren't going to explore it? Why have Jack save Sara instead of Shannon's dad if that was going no where? Why have either Boone or Shannon on in the 1st place if they only intended to kill off both? :mad: :mad:

[azteclady]

Holy cow we three agree about Boone:faintthud

I don't think killing off Shannon made much sense either. Why form a Shannon/Walt connection if they weren't going to explore it? Why have Jack save Sara instead of Shannon's dad if that was going no where? Why have either Boone or Shannon on in the 1st place if they only intended to kill off both? :mad: :mad:

And you and I agree completely on the Shannon/Walt and Shannon/Jack totally wasted connections. Really, it irks me that TPTB spent that much energy, screen time, writing, etc. to establish a plot line and then... then... friggin' kill it!!!

guylikeyou, I'm with you on the mudbath - but I'd leave Bernard out (no offense meant, just a personal preference, by the way)

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

Why dont they just have an episode with a big mudbath and chuck in all the male actors? for 42 minutes? :heartpump

Of course, the mud would be geothermically heated... and they would all be naked... :innocent: :heartpump

[guylikeu]

I think what annys me more is that we've all wasted so much time theorising about these connections, and for nothing!

Azteclady (Thats very long! Can I call you something else?) Can we leave out Hurley too? I'm not really that keen on the larger gentleman (no offence again)

[azteclady]

guylikeyou, several of the veteran posters shorten my name to aztec or az - either is fine by me.

Unnamed Redshirt Number 4, I'm all for the naked mudbath.

[Khan]

Okay okay someone start the naked men thread, maybe TPTB will see it and respond just to shut us up.;)

[wickedsweet]

I'd be happy enough with just a naked Sawyer which means that we are CERTAIN to see every male carachter except Sawyer in a mudbath/shower scene.

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

Okay okay someone start the naked men thread, maybe TPTB will see it and respond just to shut us up.;)

http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=245555#post245555

:heartpump :D :heartpump

[guylikeu]

:D

I definitly think a late-night edition of Lost is in order

And now live from Craphole Island....
Naked hot mudwrestling!!!



:D

[Khan]

http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=245555#post245555

:heartpump :D :heartpump
Thank you. There's nothing like a naked man to start your day.:naughty:
Hey wait. Aren't we suppose to be fighting about her? You're just trying to distract me,bad girl,bad, bad, girl.

[Warthawg1]

With all this talk of naked men and mud wrestling, I am afraid this is my final post in this thread.

By the way, we old timers call Azteclady: "She who must be obeyed"

[the end of innocence]

been busy selling my house and things....my oh my this thread has really taken off, regrettable i am leavin this dead job for one I cant get online as much!

CLUB NEWS:
A clever weapon is now being employed to distract us from our misison, do not, I REPEAT, do not allow hot mud wrestling to enter your minds, no matter how tempting, it could mean serious setbacks.

responding in order to some , since my last:

@ Dohboy
sure sure, i get it, the Dom club is tasteful, fashionable, and fun... no no no, we are not fun, cuz we are meanies.... OOOO, mean mean mean Ana haters!
Do you really not see the obvious differences in the reasoning for not liking (ok, i admit - HATING :P) Ana vs. Charlie?
*sniffle...............sniffle*

@ "I like to listen"
AHHHH, YOU BUMMMMMMM !!
** bumps the thread up to THREE STARS **

@ guylikeu
Wipe that cutsie grin off your face, your dimples are gonna collapse.

@ Unnamed Redshirt Number 4
Can I shake your hand? I think we even agree on Boone/Shannon! Damn!
No, I wont come to the mudpit. PLEASE GOD!

@ Ana-Lucia's boyfriend
yes, the Hate club is a bit of a severity here on the boards, but the visceral hatred of her character seemed to validate such a club, ya, many people hate many characters for their own reasons, but I think it is clear that none of them have been so immediately disliked as AnaL.

@ The Big Cat
we can only hope, but I doubt TPTB would change anything based on a thread hijacked by a few of us, (there are plenty of supporters here too) but I do hope they realize their error :)

@ Wickedsweet (you hot devil you)
if we must resort to terror, well, thats an option. Dont be afraid to love the hatred, let it flow through you... feel the anger.....
disgust....
feeling of helplessness.....
frustration...
nausea.....
headache.....
bleeding eyes....

@ azteclady (The Vixen of the Vernacular <-- love that ! )
long post....well said! One note on redeemed characters, she cannot continue any of her rediculous punching, shooting, bitching etc.... and her flashbacks must give some thoughtful insight into a person that is believable and not, as someone put it, too "sensational" -- still better if she was magneto-warped by the island and turned into a robot. I could relent to the idea that her character can be "salvaged" if she cant disapear, but i sense a redemption may be too ....
*shudders*

[camelsmoker]

Hey, all. I'm new here, but I thought I should chip in my 0.016 Euro just the same. Reading through this thread, I've noticed that quite a few AnaL-bashers/haters use her (AnaL's, not Michelle's) prior actions as debate points/reasons for hatred. But, considering that TPTB decided that she would be this way, shouldn't that hatred be directed at TPTB instead?

Personally, I dislike the AnaL character (though I do not feel that she is unredeemable.) Yet I believe that she does add considerably to the story, and will be very important in further developements.

I would also like to point out that one possible reason for disliking AnaL so much, is that Michelle is such a good actress that she is believable as a tyrant/psycho/whatever. I certainly think so. I vaguely recall an actor once declaring that it is much easier to play a hero than it is a villain. (Can't for the life of me remember who.) Think Anthony Hopkins as Hanibal Lechter.

Not that Michelle is on the same par as Hopkins, but I hope you see my point, anyways.
Sorry to be so wordy in my first post, but I've been lurking for a week or so, and I needed to get that all out.

Peace all, and remember, noobies are people, too.

[Khan]

Hey, all. I'm new here, but I thought I should chip in my 0.016 Euro just the same. Reading through this thread, I've noticed that quite a few AnaL-bashers/haters use her (AnaL's, not Michelle's) prior actions as debate points/reasons for hatred. But, considering that TPTB decided that she would be this way, shouldn't that hatred be directed at TPTB instead?
Peace all, and remember, noobies are people, too.
Hi Camelsmoker. Thanks for getting my mind back on topic and out of the mudwrestling pit.:)
I do blame the TPTB somewhat,they went way over the top trying to establish this character as vicious, thinking that they could just write in a tragic story for her and all would be fine. I do feel MR is part of the problem though she has vibe that comes through even in some of her publicity pictures.It's not all acting with her.But some people like that "kiss my a**,I'm a diva " attitude.The rest of us find it too irritating to be entertained by it.
I also blame the TPTB for casting her,somebody probably went for a name Or look and didn't think rather or not she had the depth to make a complex character come alive in a way that wouldn't turn off so many fans.
I'm so gald you decided to post and hope to hear from you again.
P.S. Warthawg1 Apologies for turning you off to this tread. We've gotten into so many heated battles here we just needed a little R&R.

[azteclady]

By the way, we old timers call Azteclady: "She who must be obeyed"

Alas, my dear Warthawg, not anymore *shedding a few tears of self pity*

As a consolation prize, we could always organize a nekkid women mud wrestling session. You know, while the men recover from their exertions...

[guylikeu]

Damn, this thead has gone back on topic!
And we had a little peace there in this horrible topic :rolleyes:
Never mind...

[DohBoy]

@ Dohboy
sure sure, i get it, the Dom club is tasteful, fashionable, and fun... no no no, we are not fun, cuz we are meanies.... OOOO, mean mean mean Ana haters!
Do you really not see the obvious differences in the reasoning for not liking (ok, i admit - HATING :P) Ana vs. Charlie?
*sniffle...............sniffle*

Hate Ana all you like. Michelle Rodriguez as well. I withdraw all previous statements. We shall respectfully agree to disagree. :D

[Khan]

been busy selling my house and things....my oh my this thread has really taken off, regrettable i am leavin this dead job for one I cant get online as much!

CLUB NEWS:
A clever weapon is now being employed to distract us from our misison, do not, I REPEAT, do not allow hot mud wrestling to enter your minds, no matter how tempting, it could mean serious setbacks.

* Throughly chastened*
Okay, claws sharpened, fangs out, squishing pictures of nak....,no,no,no,(got control). Back on the job.

[guylikeu]

Mmmm.....
Maybe in round one they can be wearing hot pants...
Maybe Jack slips and gets mud smeared across his chest...
Maybe Sawyer's pants can ride down a little.......

[Khan]

Mmmm.....
Maybe in round one they can be wearing hot pants...
Maybe Jack slips and gets mud smeared across his chest...
Maybe Sawyer's pants can ride down a little.......
:eek: Stop Stop Stop *Closing my eyes and putting my fingers in my ears*:help:

[guylikeu]

Round two, and now it's just jockstraps....

[Khan]

Round two, and now it's just jockstraps....
That's it I'm sending the panther after you.

[guylikeu]

Omg, dont tell anyone, but I caught this EXCUSIVE sneak peak of filming. It looks like Sawyer is grabbing Boone below the belt....

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9892/mudfight18fl.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[guylikeu]

Right after I took that picture, the jeans came off, and the naked rounds began... :eek: :eek: :eek:

You wouldn't believe the things I saw...

[wickedsweet]

Right after I took that picture, the jeans came off, and the naked rounds began...

What a naked Sawyer?? He must have thought I was there. Oh wait, alas, not even I am as pretty as Boone:p ;)

[Khan]

People lets a grip( on our sanity NOT Sawyer) before we all get kicked out of the club and off the thread.They just had to go and launch a sneak attack by being nice and funny didn't they?
Someone is going to have to go over to the AnaL lovers thread and poke one of the mean ones so they'll come over here and start a fight.:D

[DohBoy]

Back ontopic, then:

I hate Ana Lucia's long, beautiful black curls ... her dark and malicious doe-eyes ... her infectious smile (when she actually smiles) ... her clever self-deprecation ... her soft commanding voice ... and her luscious latin body. Oh, and her bad acting.

Oof. I think I need a vodka-tonic.

[azteclady]

Back ontopic, then:

I hate Ana Lucia's long, beautiful black curls ... her dark and malicious doe-eyes ... her infectious smile (when she actually smiles) ... her clever self-deprecation ... her soft commanding voice ... and her luscious latin body. Oh, and her bad acting.

Oof. I think I need a vodka-tonic.

*perking up* luscious latin body?


Oh, for a second there I thought you were calling for me, DohBoy - never mind me...:o

[wickedsweet]

People lets a grip( on our sanity NOT Sawyer) before we all get kicked out of the club and off the thread.They just had to go and launch a sneak attack by being nice and funny didn't they?

Well guylikeu did show Sawyer shirtless, what can I say? I'm easily distracted, now I'm going back to drool at the shirtless Sawyer pic....sigh

[guylikeu]

:lol:

I think you've got a fan there dohboy ;)

WickedSweet, I might have to post the picture of his ass soon....

[wickedsweet]

WickedSweet, I might have to post the picture of his ass soon....
__________________

No teasing:D

[Hodgepodge]

*perking up* luscious latin body?


Oh, for a second there I thought you were calling for me...Uh, uh....I'll be back in a minute!

[azteclady]

Hodge!!!!! :love2::heartpump How come I can't catch you around here, m'dear???

[the end of innocence]

@ camelsmoker:
let the record show (have said this before) that I don't think her acting is inherently bad, perhaps overdone, and YES, i do blame TPTB. That is why i dont use the Term MR much at all, I do use AnaL because that is her character.



Club News:
Be sure to rate this thread 5 stars!
Dont forget to vote in shippers for "who will kiss AnaL"
If its nominated, vote it best poll too! :)

[Florimel]

@ camelsmoker:
let the record show (have said this before) that I don't think her acting is inherently bad, perhaps overdone, and YES, i do blame TPTB. That is why i dont use the Term MR much at all, I do use AnaL because that is her character.

I do not think she is a good actress, very one-note in tone and expression. There are many others who are worse, but I don't think this actress contributes much.

However, it is the character I want to see gone. This is the first time the creators of this wonderful show have disappointed me in a big way. I don't believe Ana-Lucia adds anything positive to the show in drama or anything else.

I believe she was added because they had been redeeming most of the original bad-guy types and thought we would need someone we love to hate. The problem with this is that most of us don't love to hate Ana-Lucia; we just can't stand her.

I have never particularly liked the character, Michael, but he never diminished my enjoyment of the show. I groan, "Oh no!" whenever Ana-Lucia appears on the screen.

[the end of innocence]

I have never particularly liked the character, Michael, but he never diminished my enjoyment of the show. I groan, "Oh no!" whenever Ana-Lucia appears on the screen.
I feel pretty much the same way.

[Khan]

Well guylikeu did show Sawyer shirtless, what can I say? I'm easily distracted, now I'm going back to drool at the shirtless Sawyer pic....sigh
This will help. Go roll around in the snow or take a long cold shower. Then picture three more years of every other Lost episode centered around AnaL punching,shooting,abusing,browbeating,sneering, and pranching around like some modern slave owner on her private plantation. Works every time.

[wickedsweet]

florimel said
However, it is the character I want to see gone. This is the first time the creators of this wonderful show have disappointed me in a big way. I don't believe Ana-Lucia adds anything positive to the show in drama or anything else

Exactly!

[wickedsweet]

nthxing said
This will help. Go roll around in the snow or take a long cold shower

Not working these suggestion just conjure more images of Sawyer.

Then picture three more years of every other Lost episode centered around AnaL punching,shooting,abusing,browbeating,sneering, and pranching around like some modern slave owner on her private plantation. Works every time.

OK, that worked (talk about raining on my parade and on my birthday no less:cry: ) OK, now that I've been reluctantly dragged back to my senses
May I just remind everyone that even though Sawyer is super hot Ana Lucia is even interfereing with my Sawyer enjoyment by sneering her way into some of his scenes...I must declare WAR or SHENANIGANS, whichever's easier.

So please, TPTB, please:help: , honor my birthday wish and feed Ana to the shark or the boar or the monster or to the tarzans, whichever suits you best. Thanks so much:)

[Hodgepodge]

...I groan, "Oh no!" whenever Ana-Lucia appears on the screen.On occasion, I've done the same. Uh, uh.......I'll be back in a minute!

[guylikeu]

Give it time my misguided children. Soon Ana will sneak into your affections, and you wont be able to imagine the show without her ;)

[guylikeu]

wickedsweet, Just imagine if Ana got a gun, and forced all the men down to the waterfall. She could get Sawyer to first slowly unbotton his shirt, to show his chest and his toned 6-pack. Then she's make him unbutton his jeans, pull them down to his ankles, revealing his muscly thighs. When he's left in just his underwear, she's gonna make him slowly....


Oops, I forgot this was a PG-13 board!

If anyone gonna make it happen, it'd be Ana.....

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

So please, TPTB, please:help: , honor my birthday wish and feed Ana to the shark or the boar or the monster or to the tarzans, whichever suits you best. Thanks so much:)

Happy Birthday!!! :D

*gives wickedsweet a plush Sawyer doll that says "Son of a Bitch!" when you hug him*

[azteclady]

(...) (talk about raining on my parade and on my birthday no less:cry: ) (...)

Well, we cannot leave it like this!!! Hie thyself off to the Lostaways, wickedsweet, immediately!

[Warthawg1]

She could get Sawyer to first slowly unbotton his shirt, to show his chest and his toned 6-pack. Then she's make him unbutton his jeans, pull them down to his ankles, revealing his muscly thighs. When he's left in just his underwear, she's gonna make him slowly......

Actually... considering the quality of MR's acting up until this point, this very well could be the type of scene that she will be doing in the end. It just wont be in LOST, and the lucky actors name will be something like Buster Cherry instead of Josh Holloway.

[Zeek]

OK I heard that MR got a three year contract. I'm joining the club in hopes that TPTB might someday notice all these sigs and take action. Oh please, oh please notice the sigs!