Is it Ana or MR?

[wickedsweet]

I overheard my son and some of his friends talking about Ana and how much they don't like her, eventually they started talking about wether it was the carachter that they didn't like or the way MR portrays her. Sooo, I'm just wondering what you guys think, could Ana be more entertaining if played by another actress and if so who would you cast in her place?

[I like to listen]

M.R. is great in the role. No Change.

But, I would of combined the role of Charlie and Hurley into one part.

Anna Nicole Smith would of been perfect for it.

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[Khan]

That's the issue I've being thinking about for a while now.
In the beginning I had such an intense repulsion to Ana I thought it was the character. It is to an extent,considering her sadistic behavior. Since I did not see MR in anything before I had nothing to judge her by.
Some people have away about them that comes through in thier performance. She rubbed me the wrong last year in the airport, (no not because I'm a Jack and Kate shipper)but I over looked it. I get feelings about people,I always have an instant sense of them that's a little deeper that normal.
After reading so many posts about MR from those that have seen her in other things,particularly her behavior on Punk'd,it's becoming very clear it's her.
I don't think she can carry this role because too much of her bleeds through.I've said before ,she has an attitude of a "gangsta",punk or pimp. Those who are her fans or who have met her may say she's not like that.People rarely show thier true colors to strangers anyway. OJ Simpson comes off as charming and nice. Time after time we're shocked by how celebrities are in real life.It's thier bread and butter to put on a public face for thier careers. She isn't Ana, I don't think MR has left a trail of dead bodies across the nation,but it her attitude,one of sneering,egotistic superiority,with a nasty smartass, pushy spirit. Coupled with the characters traits it's an ugly combination.I don't think she has any charm to woo views with.
The writers are tad sexist (remember thier male mind comment?) and they have made it clear they think shes hot. They want her to be another Sawyer only for the guys.Hence they dropped thier original idea of an older AL in favor of what they think is a sexier person.THEY like her so they're blind to how people who watch the show are reacting.The solution is to spend more and more time and money to redeem her and fix this mess they made. But they can't for me and I'm sure quite a few others, because I truly believe it's MR. I think AL as a character would have been fascinating,but not in ML hands.

[wickedsweet]

I LIKE TO LISTEN said

But, I would of combined the role of Charlie and Hurley into one part.

Anna Nicole Smith would of been perfect for it.

If I were Anna Nicole (and thank TPTB I'm not) I would be highly offended;)


NTHXING said

I truly believe it's MR. I think AL as a character would have been fascinating,but not in ML hands.

I'm starting to lean that way. There have been a couple times that her line delivery has been so stilted that we've actually cracked up laughing at our house. (The first examle that comes to mind was when Eko told her they'd have to go through the jungle and she said something like "You mean that jungle?" it wasn't the line as much as her 10th grade drama club delivery that cracked me up)

I've used the example of Maggie Grace before. She elevated Shannon beyond the lines she was given. Had TPTB found someone able to that with Ana I might feel differently about her.

I'm trying to think of someone who might have been better suited for the part but I'm having a hard time coming up with anyone. So far it seems the best actors on the show have been relativly unknown anyway.

Any for all those that think MR is hot I'll give her credit for that.:)

[I like to listen]

I'll be serious - Tia Texada, she was great in Third Watch on NBC.
She is older, hot, and a great actress who played a renegade cop (Sgt. Maritza Cruz.)

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[Ohsolost]

You guys are nuts. MR is the best thing that's happened to this series this season. Her character was a little overdrawn at first but the writer's were setting up the moment she would waste Shannon. You had to believe she was out of control. Now they're giving her some more shades. But I think MR's performance was right on from the jump.

[wickedsweet]

I'll be serious - Tia Texada, she was great in Third Watch on NBC.
She is older, hot, and a great actress who played a renegade cop (Sgt. Maritza Cruz.)

I've never seen Third Watch but I think it still plays in reruns I'll have to check Tia out, was she a regular?

[wickedsweet]

You guys are nuts

I can't speak for anyone else but I'm completely certifiable.:D The Docs that come in every couple hours with my meds and the cattle prod have stated that my Anti AL observations are the first rational thoughts that I've had in ages.;)

[Hodgepodge]

I'll be serious - Tia Texada, she was great in Third Watch on NBC.
She is older, hot, and a great actress who played a renegade cop (Sgt. Maritza Cruz.)

.Loved the show and the actress ILTL! You maybe right, but I'm still 100% behind Michelle Rodriguez. Granted she's played the character type before, but I've always enjoyed her onscreen.

[Zeek]

Well the only other time I remember her is in Resident Evil. Yep she had the exact same acting credentials there. Act pissed and kill everything you can.

Gotta say I wasn't a fan of her until she got the axe. Then I was fine.

So, pretty much I'm in the same mindset with Lost. I'll feel much better about her role when she's dead.

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

I can't speak for anyone else but I'm completely certifiable.:D The Docs that come in every couple hours with my meds and the cattle prod have stated that my Anti AL observations are the first rational thoughts that I've had in ages.;)

:rotfl:

I'm no certifiable judge of acting talent (heck, I hardly even know who the actors/actresses are half the time I'm watching some movie or TV show), but MR seems to be doing a great job portraying Ana as we're meant to see her. She's not the best actress in the world, but she does a pretty good job.

[LoStMyMiNd]

Much as I hate to say this, I'm going to have to go out and rent some movies she has been in before, just so I can provide a valid opinion if its MR or just the character she is portraying. However, the scene where she was weeping into Eko's arms was very fake, so I think it is probably her acting. Hate to waste good money on a poor movie and actress though.

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

However, the scene where she was weeping into Eko's arms was very fake, so I think it is probably her acting.

Really? I was pretty thoroughly convinced (of course, we've already established that I'm not the best acting judge, and I could always have been blinded by AAA's Eko performance ;) ). Of course, I'm always impressed by actresses who don't feel like they have to cry an unrealistic "pretty" cry.

[Hodgepodge]

Much as I hate to say this, I'm going to have to go out and rent some movies she has been in before, just so I can provide a valid opinion if its MR or just the character she is portraying. However, the scene where she was weeping into Eko's arms was very fake, so I think it is probably her acting. Hate to waste good money on a poor movie and actress though.Maybe I'm just easy LoStMyMiNd! Like URN4, I bought that scene in it's entirety. Especially after what we'd seen of the character. It made perfect sense she'd have a meltdown.

[Brian]

Maybe I'm just easy LoStMyMiNd! Like URN4, I bought that scene in it's entirety. Especially after what we'd seen of the character. It made perfect sense she'd have a meltdown.
Maybe me too Hodge. That scene and the scene with Bernard and Rose were my favorite of the episode, and high on my list for the season. Coulda really done without Charlie running down the beach but we'll leave that for another forum. :)

[wickedsweet]

The scene where Al was crying to me seemed like such a blatant attempt by TPTB to gain sympathy for her that I just couldn't buy it from a writing stand point, from an acting stand point I think it was one of MR's better moments on the show.

[ThyrdEye]

I would have to say that MR is doing an ok job...she is a bit stiff with her delivery, but if you have seen her other films (Fast and Furious, Resident Evil, Blue Crush, SWAT) that is her style....she is still relatively young so she has time to kinda adjust that....but she is doing ok, I think when she is not yelling and screaming at everyone you get better since of her acting skills.

[Brian]

....she is still relatively young so she has time to kinda adjust that....but she is doing ok, I think when she is not yelling and screaming at everyone you get better since of her acting skills.
I couldn't agree more ThyrdEye. Welcome to the boards!

[Hodgepodge]

The scene where Al was crying to me seemed like such a blatant attempt by TPTB to gain sympathy for her that I just couldn't buy it from a writing stand point, from an acting stand point I think it was one of MR's better moments on the show.Come on Wickedsweet, from what you know now, you can't tell me that was poor writing!

We don't know why she was in Australia. Could she have been running from her own police force? She'd been shot, and lost a child in the same moment. She'd lost her husband/boyfriend and probably the baby's father. She'd lost all trust in her self and human nature. If you take those incidents and superimpose them on the island, what would you find?

She'd been literally thrown out of an airplane. Had fellow survivors and two children kidnapped under her own nose. Had someone she trusted betray her. She had to kill that person she trusted in self-defense. She had three men come out of the ocean, and say they were on that same flight.

Come on people! We all have baggage. Do you expect her to start trusting at the drop of a hat? I think not! I've said in several threads, I would've done the same as Ana-Lucia. And I'm nowhere near as hot!

[Khan]

The scene where Al was crying to me seemed like such a blatant attempt by TPTB to gain sympathy for her that I just couldn't buy it from a writing stand point, from an acting stand point I think it was one of MR's better moments on the show.
That's the problem TPTB are faced with now. They didn't expect the level of animosity created by AL/MR.
So I think the favorites are being bumped into the background in an attempt to redeem this character. Who ever heard of a hit show with such a huge following barely showing the cast that made it so popular? They made AnaL and Jack the centerpiece of Lost. The want the battle between the compassionate and the savage. But the ratings are slipping.They'll pick up this week pehaps because so many people want to know what Kate did.However as they go into repeats they'll have to show AnaL at her worst. More weeks away from the main cast. Fans could start to drift. They could make it even worst by more episodes built around her in order to soften her up. Again more time away from everyone else. The acters, come contract time, may say enough.It'd be better to move on when they are still hot from Lost rather than fad away
All because somebody probably let hormones do the casting. They should ditch MR and do thier LOTF thing with someone else. It'd be easy, Locke,Kate,Sayid and unknown Redshirt or a TSS that got away from the others could show the "savage " characteristics they are so dead set on.

[the end of innocence]

yup yup, tptb has really fooked it up with her, none of its her fault unless you want to blame her for allowing herself to be typecast or something like that. She has actually done a fine job acting, its just been on a stupid script.

[wickedsweet]

hodgepodge said
Come on Wickedsweet, from what you know now, you can't tell me that was poor writing!

For me the scene felt very contrived and forced. Do I think someone who'd gone through the things Ana went through would cry. Yes. I'm sure that in reality everybody on that island would have cried at some point but TPTB never seemed to need to show that with most of the other Castaways (except Jack who seems to have a real talent for tears). I just felt like that scene was an attempt by TPTB to make all the Ana Hater be like, Ahh, look she's crying, well she must not be to bad then. IMHO it wasn't surprising, it wasn't powerful and it seemed like TPTB were insulting the audience with a lame attempt to have us reform our idea of who Ana is. I just didn't buy it.

I wish I had though because I miss watching LOST with wide-eyed-if-anyone-makes-a-noise-in-this-house-youre-going-to-suffer-terribly attention and I just get jerked out of the show everytime Ana comes on screen. I don't know if it's the writing, MR's acting or a combinatation of the two but as much as I can't stand Ana I wish I did, even if it was in that love to hate her kind of way.

nthxing said
They should ditch MR and do thier LOTF thing with someone else. It'd be easy, Locke,Kate,Sayid and unknown Redshirt or a TSS that got away from the others could show the "savage " characteristics they are so dead set on.

While I agree with your entire post whole heartedly your last line nails it for me. If TPTB can not salavage Ana they need to dump her.If they have 1/2 the talent they had last year they may just be able to pull something off yet.:crossfing

[Delta Socrates]

[quote=LoStMyMiNd]Much as I hate to say this, I'm going to have to go out and rent some movies she has been in before, just so I can provide a valid opinion if its MR or just the character she is portraying. [quote]

No offense, but are you seriously telling us you're going to watch 6-8 hours of movies you may not care one scintilla to better understand if you dislike MR or the character she's portraying?

THis seems wasteful (to me), especially when talking about the Resident Evil's of the world (I've only seen Ms. Rodríguez on Blue Crush, and I found her nice enough there, with the proviso that her character was geared towards pushing the Kate Bosworth character more than anything else).

[quote=nthxing]That's the problem TPTB are faced with now. They didn't expect the level of animosity created by AL/MR.
So I think the favorites are being bumped into the background in an attempt to redeem this character. Who ever heard of a hit show with such a huge following barely showing the cast that made it so popular? They made AnaL and Jack the centerpiece of Lost. The want the battle between the compassionate and the savage. But the ratings are slipping.They'll pick up this week pehaps because so many people want to know what Kate did.However as they go into repeats they'll have to show AnaL at her worst. More weeks away from the main cast. Fans could start to drift. They could make it even worst by more episodes built around her in order to soften her up. Again more time away from everyone else. The acters, come contract time, may say enough.It'd be better to move on when they are still hot from Lost rather than fad away [quote]

I respectfully beg to differ. I think that TPTB have PURPOSEFULLY upped the ante this season. Examples are the whole hatch/Dharma storyline, the kidnapping of Walt, and the TSS survivors.

It's almost as if they are willing to suffer a little in the short term (ratings wise), to ensure themselves that Lost is viable 2-3 years down the line (do please remember that TV shows get syndicated after 4-5 seasons are in the can, and that's where the real good money comes in).

[stilllost]

no change, and everyone who hates on ana lucia and MR, all have the same bull**** comments.

[Khan]

I respectfully beg to differ. I think that TPTB have PURPOSEFULLY upped the ante this season. Examples are the whole hatch/Dharma storyline, the kidnapping of Walt, and the TSS survivors.

It's almost as if they are willing to suffer a little in the short term (ratings wise), to ensure themselves that Lost is viable 2-3 years down the line (do please remember that TV shows get syndicated after 4-5 seasons are in the can, and that's where the real good money comes in).
While change can be good I don't think it makes sense to have a hit show and then proceed to ignore the people that may it a hit.Last year the writers said they would like to kill the whole cast and start over. Of couse they couldn't do it but too many times they've indicated how expendable they think the cast is. It's caused what was a happy set to become a place where "you have to watch your back" according to one of the stars. Now AnaL taking so much time,and the lack of S1 characters is proving that they think Lost will stay a hit no matter what they do. There's more to Lost than a weird island, those S1 characters took the show to the top and the fans deserve to see thier story continued more often than once every few weeks.
Week after week of a character that is not well liked(by many) is not going to keep Lost going in the long run.Not one turns on a favorite show to find that cast they like is only going to show up in the background( if they are lucky) for who knows how long. Or they might get a whole four lines once a month.

[Delta Socrates]

You are assuming that the remaining episodes of the year will feature Ana Lucía and the TSS prominently, and will not feature the FSS as much.

That may or may not be the case, but seeing as how ep. 9 already downplayed Ana Lucia (Eko did get prominent screen time with Locke, but I haven't found many viewers complaining about Eko), I tend to think that we're going to see more of the FSS in the near future.

In fact, I'm pretty sure that the next 4-5 episodes will not feature the TSS survivors (with the partial exception of Eko on ep. 10).

[wickedsweet]

no change, and everyone who hates on ana lucia and MR, all have the same bull**** comments.

Gee, thanks for the clever remarks. Very helpful:rolleyes:

[Khan]

You are assuming that the remaining episodes of the year will feature Ana Lucía and the TSS prominently, and will not feature the FSS as much.

That may or may not be the case, but seeing as how ep. 9 already downplayed Ana Lucia (Eko did get prominent screen time with Locke, but I haven't found many viewers complaining about Eko), I tend to think that we're going to see more of the FSS in the near future.

In fact, I'm pretty sure that the next 4-5 episodes will not feature the TSS survivors (with the partial exception of Eko on ep. 10).
They did give us a MR break this week, but given where they said they are headed with her it won't last long. Plus,unless something drastic happens, it's rerun time and most of what they have to rerun is AnaL.
Of course they could pick out the Locke,Hurley or the premiere episodes,but that wouldn't be a vote of confidence in thier beloved sneering troll.