Netspeak Patrol!

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

Please read, if you have any interest in the Netspeak Patrol.

This thread and concept have gone through a complete evolution from the first post! I do not recommend traipsing through this entire thread for the basics of what the Netspeak Patrol are about. Rather, keep up with the most recent posts at the end of the thread, as well as this first post, which I shall try to keep updated as well as I can with the particulars.

Current Officers and Affiliates
Leadership Council:
Myself, azteclady, and cinderellabop
Officers:
Lost In His Eyes, YouFirst, Rocky Raccoon, Scott is 815, Sara-SNWG, and Hatchboy.
Mod Sponsor and Worshipped Deity:
Leuthen and cinderellabop

BECOMING AN OFFICER:

As of now, we have not yet developed an acceptable method of inducting new officers. For the moment, please be patient. If you must, PM either azteclady, cinderellabop, or myself, and we will respond to your request as soon as we have a plan.

For accepted Officers, we have a code of conduct described in the following oath. All Officers are required to take this oath before being put to duty.

"I vow to defend the written word within this forum. I shall assist the administrators and moderators as well as I am able, and I shall fight against the evils of netspeak with all my might. I will remember that I am no greater than anyone else on the boards. I am to remain supportive, humble, firm, and just. All the while, I will bring honor to my badge and uphold the integrity of the Netspeak Patrol by adhering to our Mission Statement and following the procedures therein described."


Netspeak Patrol - Mission Statement

The following quote is the portion in the Forum Rules and Guidelines thread (which can be found here (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1613))in the Welcome forum that deals with grammar and netspeak:


NETSPEAK:No. No, no, no. I repeat, no. It's annoying, and it creates the impression that you're very young or possibly even half-witted. You could be Einstein for all we know, and have the most brilliant idea/theory/observation since the beginning of time. That is completely negated by use of netspeak. We recommend using the spell check feature. Also, dO NoT pOSt LikE tHiS!1!!1


The poster retains the right to post in whatever method or style that he/she prefers, as long as it is not banned by the Forum rules.

Not everyone is a champion speller. Some of us have difficulty typing, others may have dyslexia or something else that could interfere, and still others may be writing in a language that is not their native tongue. We are not here to bother these people. The Netspeak Patrol are not here to be a nuisance.

Our sole purpose is the elimination of netspeak on this message board. Since opinions on what is considered netspeak may vary from person to person, we have adopted a definition of netspeak from our deity, cinderellabop the Grammar Goddess (Ask the Grammar Goddess (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8159)).



Netspeak noun. The words, idioms, and pecularities of spelling and grammar that are characteristic of online documents and communication.

Here are some of the characteristics of Netspeak: inattention to the norms of spelling and grammar; the use of all-lowercase letters; tonal informality; infrequent punctuation; the widespread use of abbreviations and acronyms; turning nouns into verbs, turning numbers into words or parts of words.

Including but not limited to; the (often unnecessary) abbreviation of words, acronyms special characters (@,~), numbers (l33tsp33k), *actions*, /me command, "ooc" and other RP references, emotes, ASCII, Real or Pseudo Programming Code, and HTML tags


A post must contain several of the above characteristics to qualify for correction.


OFFICERS

When correcting a post, we need to be polite and composed. A gentle reminder will do. Feel free to also provide a link to the Forum Guidelines page so that they are aware of the netspeak rule. If possible, try to say something positive about the ideas he/she is trying to present in the post; make sure to emphasize the fact that the ideas will get a much better reception if they are not written in netspeak.

You are NOT permitted to:
- Be rude or condescending
- Be sarcastic
- Poke fun at the poster

If you are found abusing your authority and giving the Netspeak Patrol a bad name, you WILL be promptly removed from the force.

Remember that we are in no way “above” the posters we will encounter. The mods have been kind in honoring us with these duties, and we need to be considerate of both the mods and the other posters.


Netspeak Patrol – FAQ

For the Officers

Am I allowed to correct anything other than netspeak?
No, you are not. However, our adopted definition of netspeak covers quite a lot of ground. Most problem posts would probably be included within that definition.

How am I supposed to enforce the rules if I am not allowed to be rough with the posters?There’s a big difference between being firm and being just plain mean. Remember that in actuality, we have no true authority. The rules we are attempting to enforce are what have the authority. If you are found taking advantage of your office to be rude to a poster, you will be booted from the force. Period.

What if a poster types in netspeak again after several warnings?
I will reiterate - we have no true authority. We can only politely remind people of the forum rules. If a poster ignores us and continues breaking the netspeak rule, we should refer them to the ones who truly have the power to back up the rules: the mods.

What if a poster makes fun of my attempts to correct him/her and begins to insult me?
Do not – I repeat – DO NOT respond in kind. We are not here to accuse people of rude and offensive posts. These types of posts are beyond our mandate. I suggest referring such posters to mods, as you should do whether you are in the Netspeak Patrol or not.


For the Posters:

How does this affect me?
It should not affect you at all, unless you type in netspeak.

I am not very good at spelling/typing. Do I need to worry about the Netspeak Patrol?
We are not going to nitpick at spelling and typos. You have no need to worry!

I just saw a member of the Netspeak Patrol being rude while correcting a poster. Should I do anything?
If you ever see an Officer misbehaving him/herself, feel free to PM me and/or a mod with a link to the posts in question. If the officer is found to be violating this mission statement, he/she will be removed from the force.



I’d like to conclude this mission statement with a quick quote that I believe summarizes the importance of language:

“For words, like Nature, half reveal
And half conceal the Soul within.”
-Tennyson


EDIT (cinderellabop): Here's the new badge, designed by yung, and resized by me:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/cinderellabop/misc/netspeakbadge.jpg

[Brian]

Hmmm.....We'll have to wait and see what the Grammar Goddess* thinks about this. I think this may well get merged into her thread. Nice idea though.

(For those who don't know, cinderellabop is our Grammar Goddess (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8159&highlight=Grammar+Goddess).)

[Noav Sigless]

You have the right to remain spell checked. If you give up this right, anything you type can and will be made fun of in a reply to your post.

You have the right to punctuation. If you cannot afford punctuation, periods and commas will be provided for you at the expense of your self esteem.

[wickedsweet]

Me grammar = me spelling (they're both lacking , sorry guys, in advance). I am to the english language what Ana Lucia is to gun safety.

[Homer Noodleman]

Feh, English is a living language, not a dead one like Latin. I say... contribute to its evolution by making up new words, spellings and grammar rules.

[Brian]

Feh, English is a living language, not a dead one like Latin. I say... contribute to its evolution by making up new words, spellings and grammar rules.
I'm sure Cinde is going to love this new thought process Homer. We are still a civilized (by most standards anyway) society so there are still rules to live by.

[Homer Noodleman]

"You're just not looking at the big picture, Doc. You're still back in civilization. Me? I'm in the wild."

[cinderellabop]

Feh, English is a living language, not a dead one like Latin. I say... contribute to its evolution by making up new words, spellings and grammar rules.

Homer, I cannot talk to you when you say such things. I am appalled. Correct grammar is not just for geeks; it benefits everyone. When people speak correctly, they command greater attention and appear more intelligent. Although I am perfectly fine with the occasional made-up word (after all, sometimes there is just no adequate word for some things), I cannot, under any circumstances, condone the "invention" of new grammar and spelling. I am appalled you would suggest it. I am disappointed in you, Homer.

I love the idea of grammar police. I would ask for an icon, except that as the grammar goddess, I naturally would rank above the police. But you are more than welcome to be my prophets.

[LostInWilderness]

Now I'm going to have to proof-read better.

[RunLoganRun]

I love the idea of grammar police.

Sounds like a classic Cheap Trick song:

I try to sleep, they're wide awake, they won't leave me alone.

They don't get paid to take vacations, or let me alone.

They spy on me, I try to hide, they won't let me alone.

They persecute me, they're the judge and jury all in one.

'cause they're waiting for me.

They're looking for me.

Every single night they're driving me insane.

Those men inside my brain.

The grammar police, they live inside of my head.

The grammar police, they come to me in my bed.

The grammar police, they're coming to arrest me.

[azteclady]

If mods and admins like the idea, I'll volunteer my services.

[merry slug]

Hmm, with such stringent rules, I'm not sure I'll do good. ;)

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

I love the idea of grammar police. I would ask for an icon, except that as the grammar goddess, I naturally would rank above the police. But you are more than welcome to be my prophets.

We could always make a special badge or medallion for you! I mean, I don't want to step on your toes or anything, but if you're okay with it...

If mods and admins like the idea, I'll volunteer my services.

Hehehe, I knew you'd be interested. ;)

If the mods don't think it's a good idea, then I won't go ahead with it. I wasn't thinking that we'd do anything really strict. I just thought it would be nice to have something thrown out there to counterbalance the netspeak-ridden posts.

[Lost In His Eyes]

Can I be a part of the Grammar Police? I'll have to be undercover though, since I can't fit anything else in my sig.

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

Can I be a part of the Grammar Police? I'll have to be undercover though, since I can't fit anything else in my sig.

Sure thing!

I'm still waiting for the mods to "okay" the idea though. I don't want to be stirring up trouble!

[YouFirst]

If the mods agree, count me in!

[cinderellabop]

Well, I am obviously OK with it. I think as long as you don't use any "police brutality," there shouldn't be any problem with it.

And, uh, merry slug...

I'm not sure I'll do good.

You mean, you're not sure you'll do well, right?

[I Like Freckles]

I'd prefer to be more of a grammar mob enforcer. Kneecapping goons who use netspeak, collecting protection money from the randomly grammar challenged, etc.

Is that cool?

[azteclady]

cinderellabop, you must define 'police brutality' for me... You know, so that I know whether I can control my violent tendencies to the required degree :D

I'm also going to spend some time checking how to organize my signature to include the badge without making it too wide or too tall (my obssessive compulsive personality cannot take my breaking the forum rules on sig size).

Unnamed Redshirt Number 4 you did it! :yayconfet We have a grammar police!!!



edited to correct a typo - thanks, moonshadow :flowers:

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

Well, I am obviously OK with it. I think as long as you don't use any "police brutality," there shouldn't be any problem with it.

Yes Ma'am. We shall be thorough, polite, and respectful in the grammar enforcement.


I'm also going to spend some time checking how to oranize my signature to include the badge without making it too wide or too tall (my obssessive compulsive personality cannot take my breaking the forum rules on sig size).

Unnamed Redshirt Number 4 you did it! :yayconfet We have a grammar police!!!

:celebrate :celebrate

You can create your own badge if you'd like. Don't feel as if you have to use the one I provided (it's rather poorly done ;) )

[RidersOnTheStorm]

Man, I get annoyed when people use shorthand in typing (eg. 1 instead of one), and the "l33t" language is retarded!

[LostInWilderness]

I'm all for encouraging people to speak english instead of netspeak, but leave the brutality to Cinde please.

[azteclady]

I'm all for encouraging people to speak english instead of netspeak, but leave the brutality to Cinde please.

*plaintive voice* Must we????

<--- watching my bubble burst.

[Brian]

I'm still waiting for the mods to "okay" the idea though. I don't want to be stirring up trouble!
Well, you already heard from Cinde and I certainly have no problem with it.

[wickedsweet]

Ut-oh, I think I'm about to become a grammar felon:( ;)

[Sara-SNWG]

*looks at her Dusty TOEFL Test certificate*

oh, nice idea! I'll have to remember to proof-read my posts! haha...

[azteclady]

Ut-oh, I think I'm about to become a grammar felon:( ;)

:flowers:

We must speak with the Grammar Goddess about this - there must be some preemptive action that we could take!

[Homer Noodleman]

Another thing... thinking of the wonders wordalizing (my wordilization for making up new words) allows for, what's with the archaic habit of always putting punctuation marks only between words? Sheesh, talk about constricting communication. Think of the possibilities!

The rain in Sp,ain falls mainly on th?e plain

[cinderellabop]

Oh, Homer.... the crimes you've committed against grammar are unforgivable. Book him, grammar police!

[azteclady]

*jumping Homer to drag him to Grammar Jail - no bond!*

What exactly does it say about me that I am enjoying that visual so much?

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

Ut-oh, I think I'm about to become a grammar felon:( ;)

Seeing as how you are not a student of "netspeak," I believe misdemeanor is a better word than felony. I'm sure we could set up a rehabilitation clinic for poor folks like you. ;) Anyways, we're not that strict. Our priority as of now is to strike down netspeak.

Homer, the Goddess permitting, we'll send you off with a warning for now. Be more careful next time, my friend. :no-no:

[Rocky Raccoon]

I so have to join.

I can be a Grammar Gestapo.

I can be a Punctuation Policeman.

I can be a Capitalization Cop.

I can be a Interrogation Mark Investigator.

I can be a Dash Detective.

:)

[Scott]

Hey can I join too?

This whole net-speaking business annoys me...mainly because I can't read half of it.

[YouFirst]

Do we get knowledgesticks to beat down on people with?

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

Anyone who wishes to aid in the fight aganist netspeak may join!

Do we get knowledgesticks to beat down on people with?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y265/aemilia_rose/baton.jpg

[YouFirst]

:rotfl:

[wickedsweet]

:flowers:

We must speak with the Grammar Goddess about this - there must be some preemptive action that we could take!

Red shirt said
Seeing as how you are not a student of "netspeak," I believe misdemeanor is a better word than felony. I'm sure we could set up a rehabilitation clinic for poor folks like you.

Thanks:D I'm a little to old to have gotten on the netspeak wagon and a little to blonde to win a spelling bee. I'll do the best I can to type well but when I mess up, please be gentle with me;)

[merry slug]

Well, I am obviously OK with it. I think as long as you don't use any "police brutality," there shouldn't be any problem with it.

And, uh, merry slug...



You mean, you're not sure you'll do well, right?


Thus the ";)" after it :D

[Sara-SNWG]

Just don't be to harsh with 'the foreigners', please :D

[moonshadow707]

I wondered if this included spelling offenses, but after rereading the first post, I guess it does.
Psst... azteclady - post #19 - "organize". URN4 - post #35 - "against".
(Setting myself up to be bopped here, probably...) :)

One of my pet peeves (besides netspeak in general) is the use of "prolly" instead of "probably". [shudder]

[azteclady]

moonshadow, thank you! Typos bug me like you wouldn't believe - you may have noticed that I go back and correct them in my posts all the time.

URN4, we need a mission statement. What are our duties? Do we have procedure we have to follow? How polite vs obnoxious are we to be? (I don't want to give the Grammar Police a bad name by going too far, see)

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

URN4, we need a mission statement. What are our duties? Do we have procedure we have to follow? How polite vs obnoxious are we to be? (I don't want to give the Grammar Police a bad name by going too far, see)

Hmm, very true. We need to be cohesive in our efforts.

For the record, I'll copy here the portion in the Forum Rules and Guidelines (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1613) thread in the Welcome forum that deals with grammar and netspeak:

NETSPEAK:
No. No, no, no. I repeat, no. It's annoying, and it creates the impression that you're very young or possibly even half-witted. You could be Einstein for all we know, and have the most brilliant idea/theory/observation since the beginning of time. That is completely negated by use of netspeak. We recommend using the spell check feature. Also, dO NoT pOSt LikE tHiS!1!!1

There's trouble with enforcing such a tenuous rule as this, since the opinion of a problem post may differ from person to person. The key is this: the poster retains the right to post however he/she may, as long as he/she does not infringe upon the rights of other posters.

The two basic rights of posters that merit attention in this regard are -
1) The right to express oneself and one's ideas in the method that is most suitable.
2) The right to read other posts without undue struggle or offense of intelligence.

That said, the poster retains the right to post in whatever method or style that he/she prefers, as long as it is not banned by the Forum rules or infringes upon the rights of the readers, who deserve to read a post that is proofread, well presented, and organized.

Not everyone is a champion speller. Some of us have difficulty typing, others may have dyslexia or something else that could interfere, and still others may be writing in a language that is not their native tongue. We should not bend over backwards to correct every little grammar or spelling mistake. If that was the case, I would be doing jail time for typos (I guaruntee that there is one somewhere in this post that I missed).

We need to be on the lookout for two types of posts:
1) Posts with excessive use of netspeak, caps lock, and/or punctuation (endless exclamation points, for example).
2) Posts that appear to have been written with a lack of effort. We are not writing college theses. Nobody will be put in irons for one or two mistakes. However, the glaring errors should be caught in a quick proofread.

When correcting a post, we need to be polite and composed. Even if they insulted our intelligence in their post(s), we do not need to reciprocate. A gentle reminder will do. Politely point out what it is that needs fixing, and suggest a method for improvement (i.e. avoiding netspeak, keeping a dictionary near the computer if he/she plans on using big words, spell check, etc.). A word of caution regarding spellcheck though -

English spelling can seam like a maize,
And put won strait into a hayz,
Butt now never fear,
The spell-checker is hear,
And its sew well-deserving of prays.
Butt let awl pore spellers bee ware
Of the checker and ewes it with care,
Lest yore hair be turned into a hare.

-Anonymous

If possible, try to say something positive about the ideas he/she is trying to present in the post. It would be very helpful to suggest that he/she go back and edit that post, to allow those ideas to be presented in a clearer manner.

[LostInWilderness]

who deserve to read a post that is proofread, well presented, and organized.
Are you on the same board I am? That restriction would eliminate a tremendous number of posts, include some of everyone's here.

Please make sure your club is an asset to the board, and not a nuisance.

[lostsurvivor23]

I know we all like it if we can actually read what people are posting, but here's something interesting that I found the other day.

Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a ttoal mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

amzanig huh?

DISCLAIMER - The words preceding are intentionally misspelled.......:D

[Homer Noodleman]

One of the many benefits of accepting wordalizing is it renders spelling meaningless. Any word not letterized properly (ie; 'spelled properly' for those not as grammatically evolved as myself) is obviously nothing more than a new wordilization.

[Chance Gardener]

well, at times you can mold it into pretty shapes, or mound it really high, but a pile of manure is still s***.


Just sayin'.




(and I'd argue that if you are asking us to read your thoughts - as evidenced by the fact that you are posting them, the request is definitely implied - then you should take at least 10 seconds to review it as well as take time to put thought into the initial writing; that's just being a good person)

[Homer Noodleman]

As an example, let us apply the principles of Evolutionary Grammar to the above post and see how much more poetic and evocative it is when rerenderized:

OMG!!!!, at tick-tock intervals u can finger poke it in2 Noodleman-like structures, or mountanize it 2 B extremely unlow, but a heap'n help'n of manure iz still gastronomic ejecta.

Just flapping my mouth muscle.

Birngs tears to your eyes, don't it?

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

Are you on the same board I am? That restriction would eliminate a tremendous number of posts, include some of everyone's here.

Please make sure your club is an asset to the board, and not a nuisance.

I'm sorry I confused you. When I say "proofread," I don't mean going through three or four drafts. I'm only asking for a smidgen of effort - I would love there to be at least evidence of attempting to use punctuation and correct grammar/spelling. It is in the forum rules, after all. :)

And I hope that you do not find the Grammar Police Force becoming a nuisance. If we end up stepping anybody's toes, my gravest apologies.

(and I'd argue that if you are asking us to read your thoughts - as evidenced by the fact that you are posting them, the request is definitely implied - then you should take at least 10 seconds to review it as well as take time to put thought into the initial writing; that's just being a good person)

I heartily agree.

[RunLoganRun]

DISLAIMER - The words preceeding are intentionally misspelled


All right, this phrase was unintentionally hilarious and ironic to boot. Can we just require anyone posting to at least use words in the proper context ?

[lostsurvivor23]

Can we just require anyone posting to at least use words in the proper context ?

Sorry, I meant to put that statement at the end of the post. I fixed it now. Oops, my bad grammar.:o

I also didn't even realize I misspelled those words. I did proof read, but I guess I missed it.
*runs away really embarrassed now*

[LostInWilderness]

And I hope that you do not find the Grammar Police Force becoming a nuisance. If we end up stepping anybody's toes, my gravest apologies. Not at all. I'm all for you using your grammar powers for good.

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

I have since realized that I need to revise the mission statement for the Grammar Police.

It seems that my perception of netspeak was greatly limited!

Many were understandably concerned about the broad umbrella I placed over everything that we would fight against. I did this to include such posts that included language that may or may not be considered netspeak in different opinions.

The Grammar Goddess comes to the rescue again! I found a perfect definition of netspeak within her thread (Ask the Grammar Goddess (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8159&highlight=grammar+goddess)).

This definition includes everything which I intended in the original mission statement. Let it go down in the records now, that the Grammar Police will fight exclusively netspeak, as defined here (thanks to cinderellabop!):

Netspeak - noun. The words, idioms, and pecularities of spelling and grammar that are characteristic of online documents and communication.

Here are some of the characteristics of Netspeak: inattention to the norms of spelling and grammar; the use of all-lowercase letters; tonal informality; infrequent punctuation; the widespread use of abbreviations and acronyms; turning nouns into verbs, turning numbers into words or parts of words.

Including but not limited to; the (often unnecessary) abbreviation of words, acronyms special characters (@,~), numbers (l33tsp33k), *actions*, /me command, "ooc" and other RP references, emotes, ASCII, Real or Pseudo Programming Code, and HTML tags

[azteclady]

Oh dear....


URN4... you may want to skip the cool cats club on your rounds [because of the *action* thingie only].

[LostInWilderness]

I like it.

[MJBinNC]

Oh dear....
URN4... you may want to skip the cool cats club on your rounds [because of the *action* thingie only].
And use of emoticons......heavy use of those little buggers there..... Why am I feeling the need to get my dictionary, thesaurus, and grammar books and put them next to the computer?

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

Oh dear....


URN4... you may want to skip the cool cats club on your rounds [because of the *action* thingie only].

Oh, I'm sure the *action* thing is permissible (I use it too sometimes!) as long as it is not used... let's say, like this - *runs 2 get da cookee 4 u*

And by emotes, I was thinking she meant typed out faces (@_@, X.X, XD, ^_^, etc.) rather than the smileys supplied by the forum...

Ah well, the mission statement is a work in progress! Keep telling me concerns, because I want this to be as painless as possible for posters who avoid netspeak.

[cinderellabop]

I honestly don't have a problem with *actions* or /end slashes, but when they are used in combination with the other things, then yeah, it's irritating. And the emoticons on the board are also fine, as long as they are not over-used... (which isn't even possible here, because there is a limit to the number you can use in a single post). Again, the real problem comes when someone uses all of those things together.

[SareEru]

Alright, I have a really hard hitting question to ask. The importance of its answer cannot be overestimated.

"Can I still use the term LOL?"

[cinderellabop]

I don't have a problem with it... I use it myself. Just don't do it in conjunction with the other qualities of netspeak: im goin 2 b bak l8er, tri not 2 miss me 2 much, lol.

[azteclady]

cinder, I hesitate to say this but...

you are so good at the examples, I'm starting to worry.

[cinderellabop]

KF2 is much better at it than I am. It's actually quite frightening.

[azteclady]

KF2 is much better at it than I am. It's actually quite frightening.

As long as it's not catching, I'll be fine.

URN4, please let me know as soon as you have a working mission statement and operating procedure. I am interested on applying for the job, but I definitely want to be an asset to the community and not create hassle for anyone, from mods on down.

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

URN4, please let me know as soon as you have a working mission statement and operating procedure. I am interested on applying for the job, but I definitely want to be an asset to the community and not create hassle for anyone, from mods on down.

Absolutely, azteclady! As soon as I get a working mission statement, I will post it both here and on my post in the first page of the thread (so people have easy access to it).

I'm still waiting for a couple green lights, so it could possibly be a few more days until the Grammar Police become fully operational.

Also, thank you for the clarification, Grammar Goddess! You be sure to tell us if we ever do anything against your divine wishes. :)

[NokomisIsABadRobot]

If you(anyone) ..whilst on a Lost-tv message board are so worried about the use of perfect English that you (anyone) ever feel(s) the need to correct one of my posts.....please do not be surprised or offended if I respond to you by telling you to kiss my all American Arse.

:)

[Brian]

If you(anyone) ..whilst on a Lost-tv message board are so worried about the use of perfect English that you (anyone) ever feel(s) the need to correct one of my posts.....please do not be surprised or offended if I respond to you by telling you to kiss my all American Arse.

:)
:rotfl: Nice Nokomis!

[cinderellabop]

Now, now, Nokomis, clearly you did not read the entire thread. The Grammar Police is mostly concerning itself with eradicating the use of netspeak on the forum, a crime of which you are clearly innocent. As for me, although I am the Grammar Goddess, I won't go out of my way to correct most grammar transgressions unless they are truly egregious. But that does not mean I do not notice them and cringe...

[NokomisIsABadRobot]

I actally did read the entire thread... (How dare I not..lol)
and while I did notice that the majority of the thread was indeed about netspeak, there was that small percent that almost got too excited about the thought of scouring the board looking for misspelled words, and run on sentences. Just saying that I, (being the adult that I am..) for one wont take kindly to any 'help' with my English, and I don't really see how it will be constructive for a certain few to take on the roll. I'm just making my position clear so IF the need ever arises...no one will be shocked by my response...;)

[LostInWilderness]

Sounds like netspeak it is.

[cinderellabop]

Your charming new signature is quite adequate for making that point.

[Noav Sigless]

As an example of the kid of posts i think the grammar police are looking for im not using spellcheck noe am i using puntuaion and i think you can see the kind of thing they are looking for ok i admit i an typing away very fast and im not lookind at what im typing but this an example of a poster not caring enough to make sure what they tpe can be read the sad prt is i have seen posts like this on the board and it can be very frustrating to read so if you want people to takr the time to read your posts you should take the time to write them i in a legeble manner

[Brian]

As an example of the kid of posts i think the grammar police are looking for im not using spellcheck noe am i using puntuaion and i think you can see the kind of thing they are looking for ok i admit i an typing away very fast and im not lookind at what im typing but this an example of a poster not caring enough to make sure what they tpe can be read the sad prt is i have seen posts like this on the board and it can be very frustrating to read so if you want people to takr the time to read your posts you should take the time to write them i in a legeble manner
The sad part is, I actually understood that. I need a vacation I think. :)

[azteclady]

:wave2: for Leuthen and Noav

cinder, Oh Grammar Goddess, all I can say about that signature is that it's new...

[The Swan]

Inetertinsg pniot hree. If you keep the fsirt and fanil lerttes of a wrod the smae but jmulbe the rest of the ltetres up the hmuan barin siltl can udnertsnad waht is bineg siad.

And hrer you gyus are wrorinyg aoubt net seapk and bad garammr!!!

[cinderellabop]

Maybe it's just because I have the mind of an editor (which is good, because I am one), but that doesn't work for me. All I can see are the mistakes. I guess I can understand it, because I have an urgent and uncontrollable need to edit it. Right now I'm positively itching for a red pen.

[The Swan]

My point is this.

IF you are going to write a detailed theory then of course it is important that the spelling and grammar are correct. The quality of your theory also depends heavily on your own person writing style and presentation. Ive seen some really good theories on here just poorly explained.

HOWEVER!!

What I cant get my head around is the unnecessary nit-picking in threads that dont really need to be 100% accurate. Does it matter that i incorrectly used an appostrophe in the 3 word game?? Really?? Does it really matter that some posters occasionally use a 2 instead of to or too or two??

Leuthen spitting his dummy because i persistantly used Net speak (in the Net Speak thread, may i add) is just plain immature. Closing a thread because someone is having a joke is quite sad.
Leuthen claims to have no time to read through badly presented threads or threads where there is poor spelling and grammar. For someone who has so little time you sure do have plenty to pick holes in these threads and write boring, long winded sermons on the joys of good grammar.

[cinderellabop]

Well, my point is this: Netspeak is against the rules here. I don't have a problem with using it as an example on occasion, but there are some new members who have been using it to an extreme. That needs to stop. Now, I was not aware that Leuthen had actually closed that thread. Frankly, I knew you were kidding and as long as you didn't take it outside that thread, I didn't care. However, it is against the forum rules. And it's irritating. So a few people want to call themselves grammar police and they want to focus on reminding those people that netspeak is in fact against the forum rules. It helps us mods by making our jobs easier. I don't see the problem with that.

Now, I may be the grammar goddess, and I may work as an editor in real life, but I know better than to expect perfect grammar here. This is why I do not correct people's grammar outside of threads that do not directly pertain to grammar.

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

I actally did read the entire thread... (How dare I not..lol)
and while I did notice that the majority of the thread was indeed about netspeak, there was that small percent that almost got too excited about the thought of scouring the board looking for misspelled words, and run on sentences. Just saying that I, (being the adult that I am..) for one wont take kindly to any 'help' with my English, and I don't really see how it will be constructive for a certain few to take on the roll. I'm just making my position clear so IF the need ever arises...no one will be shocked by my response...;)

I'm confused by your hostility, Nokomis. I went back to reread the thread to find the small percent you were speaking about, and I must admit that I could not find them. I'm trying to make it quite clear now that the Grammar Police are hunting solely netspeak. What I don't understand, is why this should upset you.

So a few people want to call themselves grammar police and they want to focus on reminding those people that netspeak is in fact against the forum rules. It helps us mods by making our jobs easier. I don't see the problem with that.

:awwhug:

[The Swan]

I think you guys should go and check out the pirate thread!!!
The spelling and grammar in there is awful!!
And they use abbreviations.
And they dont brush their teeth!!

Oh and someone in Theories and Spec (sorry Speculation) has been using TPTB alot. Surely its not too much to ask to say The Powers That Be?

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

I think you guys should go and check out the pirate thread!!!
The spelling and grammar in there is awful!!
And they use abbreviations.
And they dont brush their teeth!!

Oh and someone in Theories and Spec (sorry Speculation) has been using TPTB alot. Surely its not too much to ask to say The Powers That Be?

As we have said before ukcastaway, we fight netspeak. Unless a poster uses extensive netspeak in a post, they will not need to worry about us at all.

Don't make us out to be stricter than we are. ;)

[The Swan]

Your like mini-hitlers

[cinderellabop]

UKC, you are taking your complaints too far. They are not out to get you, and this manner really doesn't need to concern you if you're not part of it. I am asking you to stop now. Don't make me ask again.

[The Swan]

Leuthen made me part when he lambasted me for HAVING A JOKE!!!
Then he closed a thread!!!
I really couldnt care less for peoples spelling or grammar so long as there is a relative amount of time and effort put into the post and its legible.
I am not a child and do not need someone to check my posts and nit-pick.

The mini-hitler comment was too far I agree.

*Steps down from soapbox and walks away*

[cinderellabop]

Please re-read my post again where I stated that I knew you were making a joke. Since you do not make a habit of speaking in netspeak in other threads, that means you are not part of it. End of story.

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

Leuthen made me part when he lambasted me for HAVING A JOKE!!!
Then he closed a thread!!!
I really couldnt care less for peoples spelling or grammar so long as there is a relative amount of time and effort put into the post and its legible.
I am not a child and do not need someone to check my posts and nit-pick.

The mini-hitler comment was too far I agree.

*Steps down from soapbox and walks away*

I have no idea what thread you're even talking about, so don't try to associate the Grammar Police with your closed thread.

Anyways, you were perfectly on target when you said, "I really couldnt care less for peoples spelling or grammar so long as there is a relative amount of time and effort put into the post and its legible." That's all we are trying to accomplish here.

As for netspeak, it is against the forum rules as stated in the welcome forum (Lost-TV Forum Rules and Guidelines (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1613)), so I really do not see how we are out of line in that regard.

[azteclady]

I think you guys should go and check out the pirate thread!!!
The spelling and grammar in there is awful!!
And they use abbreviations.
And they dont brush their teeth!!

Oh and someone in Theories and Spec (sorry Speculation) has been using TPTB alot. Surely its not too much to ask to say The Powers That Be?
Your like mini-hitlers
I believe that most, if not all, of the people interested in becoming part of the Grammar Police, understand very wel the difference between netspeak and playful bantering in the appropriate thread.

But just to be one hundred percent sure that we do not become irritants ourselves, we are discussing the gray areas, such as the excessive vs appropriate use of acronyms, in this thread.

Personally, I do not want to become an irritant to the moderators and administrators, who selflessly give time and money for us to enjoy the community. Quite the contrary, in fact.

The people who whine endlessly because they are reminded that there are rules for the community? Those can take a hike for all I care.

As far as the "mini-hitlers" crack goes, I'll nod to our very own drabauer and cite Godwin's Law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law). ukcastaway, as far as I'm concerned, you killed whatever legitimate complaint or peeve you had, but using the Hitler card.



Nod to URN4 who just corrected me (thank you, dear)... and wonder of wonders, I didn't have a hissy fit over it! (Cheap shot, I know - but class only takes me so far)

[I Like Freckles]

You just gotta roll with it, URN4. Law enforcement agencies are seemingly always dealing with unfounded allegations of brutality from those they are policing. I think it comes with the territory.

[merry slug]

I don't think they're planning on nit-picking (I'd be in deep doo-doo). I doubt they'll offend anyone who makes an honest mistake. Why don't we let the team operate and see?

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

You just gotta roll with it, URN4. Law enforcement agencies are seemingly always dealing with unfounded allegations of brutality from those they are policing. I think it comes with the territory.

I guess so, I Like Freckles. Though, I was trying very hard to discourage squabbles. :(

Personally, I do not want to become an irritant to the moderators and administrators, who selfishly give time and money for us to enjoy the community.

I believe the word you want is "selflessly." ;)

(And for those of you who are getting ready to pounce on me for that correction, that was not a Grammar Police arrest, but rather a harmless tease between buddies).

[azteclady]

URN4, corrected :flowers: thanks

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

Here is the edited Grammar Police Mission Statement! Please give input if you see anything that may need adjusting.

The following quote is the portion in the Forum Rules and Guidelines (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1613) thread in the Welcome forum that deals with grammar and netspeak:

NETSPEAK:No. No, no, no. I repeat, no. It's annoying, and it creates the impression that you're very young or possibly even half-witted. You could be Einstein for all we know, and have the most brilliant idea/theory/observation since the beginning of time. That is completely negated by use of netspeak. We recommend using the spell check feature. Also, dO NoT pOSt LikE tHiS!1!!1

The poster retains the right to post in whatever method or style that he/she prefers, as long as it is not banned by the Forum rules.

Not everyone is a champion speller. Some of us have difficulty typing, others may have dyslexia or something else that could interfere, and still others may be writing in a language that is not their native tongue. We are not here to bother these people. The Grammar Police are not here to be a nuisance.

Our sole purpose is the elimination of netspeak on this message board. Since opinions on what is considered netspeak may vary from person to person, we have adopted a definition of netspeak from our deity, cinderellabop the Grammar Goddess (Ask the Grammar Goddess (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8159&highlight=grammar+goddess)).

Netspeak noun. The words, idioms, and pecularities of spelling and grammar that are characteristic of online documents and communication.

Here are some of the characteristics of Netspeak: inattention to the norms of spelling and grammar; the use of all-lowercase letters; tonal informality; infrequent punctuation; the widespread use of abbreviations and acronyms; turning nouns into verbs, turning numbers into words or parts of words.

Including but not limited to; the (often unnecessary) abbreviation of words, acronyms special characters (@,~), numbers (l33tsp33k), *actions*, /me command, "ooc" and other RP references, emotes, ASCII, Real or Pseudo Programming Code, and HTML tags

A post must contain several of the above characteristics to qualify for correction.

OFFICERS

When correcting a post, we need to be polite and composed. A gentle reminder will do. Feel free to also provide a link to the Forum Guidelines page so that they are aware of the netspeak rule. If possible, try to say something positive about the ideas he/she is trying to present in the post; make sure to emphasize the fact that the ideas will get a much better reception if they are not written in netspeak.

You are NOT permitted to:
- Be rude or condescending
- Be sarcastic
- Poke fun at the poster

If you are found abusing your authority and giving the Grammar Police a bad name, you WILL be promptly removed from the force.

Remember that we are in no way “above” the posters we will encounter. The mods have been kind in honoring us with these duties, and we need to be considerate of both the mods and the other posters.

Grammar Police – FAQ

For the Officers

Am I allowed to correct anything other than netspeak?
No, you are not. However, our adopted definition of netspeak covers quite a lot of ground. Most problem posts would probably be included within that definition.

How am I supposed to enforce the rules if I am not allowed to be rough with the posters?
There’s a big difference between being firm and being just plain mean. Remember that in actuality, we have no true authority. The rules we are attempting to enforce are what have the authority. If you are found taking advantage of your office to be rude to a poster, you will be booted from the force. Period.

What if a poster types in netspeak again after several warnings?
I will reiterate - we have no true authority. We can only politely remind people of the forum rules. If a poster ignores us and continues breaking the netspeak rule, we should refer them to the ones who truly have the power to back up the rules: the mods.

What if a poster makes fun of my attempts to correct him/her and begins to insult me?
Do not – I repeat – DO NOT respond in kind. We are not here to accuse people of rude and offensive posts. These types of posts are beyond our mandate. I suggest referring such posters to mods, as you should do whether you are in the Grammar Police or not.

For the Posters:

How does this affect me?
It should not affect you at all, unless you type in netspeak.

I am not very good at spelling/typing. Do I need to worry about the Grammar Police?
We are not going to nitpick at spelling and typos. You have no need to worry!

I just saw a member of the Grammar Police being rude while correcting a poster. Should I do anything?
If you ever see an Officer misbehaving him/herself, feel free to PM me and/or a mod with a link to the posts in question. If the officer is found to be violating this mission statement, he/she will be removed from the force.



I’d like to conclude this mission statement with a quick quote that I believe summarizes the importance of language:

“For words, like Nature, half reveal
And half conceal the Soul within.”
-Tennyson

[azteclady]

I :worshippy you, Chief URN4

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

I :worshippy you, Chief URN4

Now now, all worshipping is restricted to the Goddess only. We are mere mortals!

Thanks for the sentiment though. :awwhug: :flowers:

[NokomisIsABadRobot]

I went back to reread the thread to find the small percent you were speaking about, and I must admit that I could not find them. I'm trying to make it quite clear now that the Grammar Police are hunting solely netspeak. What I don't understand, is why this should upset you.
It would upset me for the following reasons. I'm here to discuss Lost and joke around a bit. If this board is going to become a nitpic for spelling errors and such, it will lose much of it's appeal. Here are some examples I found to show you why it seemed as if some were going to take this too far.

In light of the growing threat of such terrifying things as "netspeak" and lack of spell-check, I present to you...

The Lost-TV Grammar Police!
You have the right to remain spell checked. If you give up this right, anything you type can and will be made fun of in a reply to your post.

You have the right to punctuation. If you cannot afford punctuation, periods and commas will be provided for you at the expense of your self esteem.
Yes Ma'am. We shall be thorough, polite, and respectful in the grammar enforcement.
Seeing as how you are not a student of "netspeak," I believe misdemeanor is a better word than felony. I'm sure we could set up a rehabilitation clinic for poor folks like you. Anyways, we're not that strict. Our priority as of now is to strike down netspeak.

I so have to join.

I can be a Grammar Gestapo.

I can be a Punctuation Policeman.

I can be a Capitalization Cop.

I can be a Interrogation Mark Investigator.

I can be a Dash Detective.
I wondered if this included spelling offenses, but after rereading the first post, I guess it does.
as long as it is not banned by the Forum rules or infringes upon the rights of the readers, who deserve to read a post that is proofread, well presented, and organized.
We need to be on the lookout for two types of posts:
2) Posts that appear to have been written with a lack of effort. We are not writing college theses. Nobody will be put in irons for one or two mistakes. However, the glaring errors should be caught in a quick proofread.
keeping a dictionary near the computer if he/she plans on using big words, spell check, etc.).
It would be very helpful to suggest that he/she go back and edit that post, to allow those ideas to be presented in a clearer manner.
I would love there to be at least evidence of attempting to use punctuation and correct grammar/spelling.

I'll also go on record saying that it is never a good idea to allow certain members of a community to 'police' others unless they are Mods. It creates a cliquey atmosphere and I'm positive that any efforts made by the 'Grammar police' are going to be met with a whole bunch of pissed off posters. If the Mods want to enforce their own rules, it's for them to do. Not allowing certain members to harass other members about what and how they write. For the record, I hate netspeak myself.. perhaps renaming your club to the ''anti net-speak police'' would go a ways in clarifying your 'mission'?
I dont mean to appear hostile, I am concerned that the overall view of the board will diminish if certain few are given priviledges to oversee the rest of us. This board has made the news many times recently as 'the place to go for Lost online fans.' There have been interviews with Admins and even certain posters have been quoted throughout the media.. I'm a firm believer that if it isn't broke....
How sad will it be if more media people come here only to watch as the 'grammar police' get in bout after bout with the members over something as silly as how they type. Posts that are breaking the rules should be reported to a Mod, not have the drama played out on the boards for all to see. That is just my two cents. Last I looked, I had the right to say my peace.

[Scott]

Maybe you should look on the bright side of it that it's just a bit of fun.

The rules already say "no net-speak" so this is just enforcing it.

I think it's a good idea to be honest and I don't see how it should bother someone unless they net-speak.

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

NokomisIsABadRobot:

Half of your examples were playful banter, and the other half were prior to the direction change (post #52), in which the goals of the Grammar Police were restricted fully to the elimination of netspeak. I encourage you to reread that post, as well as the new mission statement (the new mission statement should assure you that I will not let any Officers take it too far). I understand your confusion though. I am tempted to ask the mods to lock this thread so we can start from scratch with everything clearly laid out in the first post.

I'll have you know that I highly respect the mods, and would abolish the Grammar Police in an instant if they asked it of me. However, as of now I have their support, and many of them have expressed to me how hopeful they are that the Grammar Police may make their jobs easier.

You have every right to state your opinion, and I am thankful that you did (it sets me on the right path to discover what I need to clarify in regards to the Grammar Police). However, if drama is what you seek to avoid, I suggest you stop inciting it.

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

The only reason your 'mission statement' was changed was because people such as myself complained about it. Suddenly, it became 'oh..we were never going to spell check you''.. I stated my peace in a thread that asked for opinions. If however you are only looking for opinions that agree with you, it would be nice if you clarify that as well.
Inciting drama? Wait til you guys attempt to police the masses, then tell me again how wonderful this idea is.
I'll just continue to post as I always have. Time will tell how this new club idea plays out.

I would never revoke an opinion because of complaints. I changed it at the request of a mod.

[Magical Trevor]

I really don't want to get drawn into the whole grammer thing as I am English, and I see spelling mistakes all the time, such as neighbor should be neighbour (URN4), but it would be a bit foolish if I started picking on these things (except this once of course).

[Homer Noodleman]

Without an Addendum that lauds the wonders of Evolutionary Grammar and Wordilizing, I must reject the Mission Statement as being an overly reactionary document.

[Magical Trevor]

Somebody got a thesaurus for Christmas.

[azteclady]

NokomisIsABadRobot, you may want to check your facts a bit. It's fairly easy to follow the evolution of the Grammar Police from the original post to now. The reason the mission statement was changed is fairly obvious and upfront - and it's all there. The first 40 or so posts, mostly approving banter. Then I asked about a mission statement (post #41), the first draft was posted (post #42), and it's been a work in progress from there. In fact, you didn't participate in the thread until post #63 - after the second revised draft was posted.

You claim to be adult enough not to need (nor want) any help with your use of the language. That is actually great news for everyone - the fewer people prone to break the rules and guidelines by using netspeak in the forum, the better the entire community fares. I hope you are adult enough to see that just as clearly.

As far as looking only for opinions in agreement with us... I cannot speak for UNR4 or anyone else, but I'd say that the only opinions that actually make a difference, as it pertains to the existence of the Grammar Police, its function, membership, and policies and procedure, are those of the moderators and administrators. Off the top of my head, I can think of three moderators who posted in this thread, both asking for specific changes and in support of the idea. Edited to add: three mods, one admin.

[I like to listen]

NokomisIsABadRobot (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/member.php?u=79),
Weather i disagre or agre with U, evn bck 2 NokomisSplash,
I sure :heartpump your reespeckful Moxy.
I do refute your Sig line.
A gang of 1 will atract the other gangs of 1.
Someting to considr. No thing is 4ever.

Regards ILTL.

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[Magical Trevor]

OMG I spelt grammar wrong!!! In the grammar police thread!!! AAAHHHHH!!!

[Homer Noodleman]

Trevor,

Look at it this way, you just wordalized it into its proper phonetic spelling. Well done!

[Magical Trevor]

Now I just know wordalized isn't a real word!

[cinderellabop]

Psst: Magical Trevor: neighbor is one of those words that is spelled differently in America than it is spelled in Britain. While neighbour is the British spelling, neighbor is perfectly correct here in the States.

[moonshadow707]

Nokomis, I can assure you that my post, at least, was playful teasing about typos made by the Grammar Police. (Wasn't kidding about my allergy to "prolly", but that's my personal problem.)

ukcastaway:
I think you guys should go and check out the pirate thread!!!
The spelling and grammar in there is awful!!
And they use abbreviations.
And they dont brush their teeth!!

Can I just say I thought that was pretty funny? I laughed out loud. :D
(Why do people say "lololol"? Wouldn't that mean "laughing out loud out loud out loud"?)

Okay, to the real reason for this post: I'm confused about part of this:
Here are some of the characteristics of Netspeak: inattention to the norms of spelling and grammar; the use of all-lowercase letters; tonal informality; infrequent punctuation; the widespread use of abbreviations and acronyms; turning nouns into verbs, turning numbers into words or parts of words.


Can someone explain what "tonal informality" is? (Seriously.) Someone wrote this, so someone must be able to explain it. I hope it doesn't mean we can't call someone we don't know very well "dude". Would "Mr. Dude" be okay? (<-- that's me joking again)
Also - "turning nouns into verbs" -- why is that an offense? Case in point: Google. Started out as a noun; now often used as a verb: "Google it".
I'm just asking. Not trying to start anything.

[uhavemel]

I have just realized that the evil that is Netspeak is actually a part of my screen name. I feel so unclean. :help:

[Magical Trevor]

Psst:Cinderellabop I just can't resist taking cheap pops against Americans.

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

(edited)

[Magical Trevor]

Hey URN4 I've being doing nothing but trying to turn it into a joke. That may not actually be a good thing...

[Magical Trevor]

BTW I'm not anti-American or anything (unless you confirm to some very unflattering stereotypes) just before anyone has a go at me.

[merry slug]

Edited because I'm an idiot :rolleyes:

[moonshadow707]

Aww, URN4 - we're just having some fun here. :flowers:
I hope you aren't getting any nasty PMs or anything like that.:( That would not be cool. :no-no:

[Rocky Raccoon]

URN4...you're doing a good thing here.

You're doing real good...

:p

And thanks for the PM.

[Lost In His Eyes]

YO ADRIAN!!

I like the new rules Unnamed! If I happen to run into some netspeak, I will do what I am allowed. Remember, I'm undercover. (no more room in my sig) :)

[LostInWilderness]

I'll also go on record saying that it is never a good idea to allow certain members of a community to 'police' others unless they are Mods. We have a number of veterans who help us out a lot with greeting, providing links, and reminding posters of rules. I know I appreciate it, and so do the other mods. Redshirt is trying to do the same thing, and I support her intent. Having a group, a mission statement, and badges instead of posters just informally helping out is different, and we'll have to see how that goes.

[JacksGirlfriend]

URN4 - I think your idea is fun and your enthusiasm is contagious. I have no problem with several of you guiding newer members in the right direction to make them comfortable on the board. Lots of kids (and some adults) come here full of newly formed ideas and eager to post. In doing so they aren't often aware we are a little set in our ways. Steering them in the right direction can only be a benefit. I've offered advice to several of the younger members and I'm always happy to see them emerge later as serious posters with great ideas.

I hope none of the members get over-zealous and feel the need to criticize any person's freedom of expression. Just bear in mind we all have different backgrounds and interests. One person's love of words and sentence structure can be another person's fear. That doesn't mean he/she doesn't love the show and that's what we're here to share. I don't have trouble with guidance to make everyone comfortable, but be gentle.

If anyone encounters a problem, on either end of the spectrum, let us know.

[I like to listen]

If anyone encounters a problem, on either end of the spectrum, let us know.


God, I red speculum 4 a 2nd, i guess r kranyums r safe.

spec·u·lum (spĕk'yə-ləm) http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/pron.gif
n., pl. -la (-lə) or -lums.

A mirror or polished metal plate used as a reflector in optical instruments.
An instrument for dilating the opening of a body cavity for medical examination.
Zoology.
A bright, often iridescent patch of color on the wings of certain birds, especially ducks.
A transparent spot in the wings of some butterflies or moths.
[Middle English, surgical speculum, from Latin, mirror, from specere, to look at.]

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[moonshadow707]

ILTL, obviously you aren't female if the word speculum makes you worry about your cranium...
We're wandering off-topic here, aren't we?

Doesn't anyone know what "tonal informality" means? I really, seriously want to know. :confused:

[I like to listen]

Stupid PC dictionaries.


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[cinderellabop]

Moonshadow, I found that definition online. I am not sure, but I think "tonal informality" is just a catch-all phrase meant to include anything else not already mentioned by the rest of the definition.

[Brian]

Knowing the true intent of this thread, why it was started, I think the best thing that could happen here is a change of title. No one in this thread, mod/admin or otherwise, ever intended to influence the way anyone expresses themselves. The reason this thread was started was as a counter-balance to the flood of netspeak we had as of late. We have 1 Grammar Goddess and she does a wonderful job. The "Grammar Police" were only trying to help her in that effort.

Look, unless you're one who uses netspeak on this board, you don't have anything to be concerned with. No one here, that I'm aware of, is an English major and if I'm wrong you'll see it soon enough. Regardless, this thread was never intended to be a check on the way posters here write.

I would advise everyone to continue as normal. Unless that is, you're one who uses netspeak. If that's the case, then please stop and those who use it know who they are because you've most likely been warned at least once.

This board is not English101. The majority of y'all know that. This is just an attempt to make the majority aware of the problems some have been having in the past several weeks regarding netspeakers.

Just my .02.

[wickedsweet]

Holy cow. The things a person misses when they're away from the boards for one whole day.
Anyway--Can I still use TPTB, because I am a lazy little wench and typing out "the powers that be" has just exhausted me.;)

[azteclady]

Regarding the use of TPTB and lol, I think that, when in doubt, users should always refer to the LOST-tv dictionary (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10085&highlight=dictionary). If it's there, then it's commonly used throughout the forum and that should be that. Please keep in mind that the netspeak rule has been in the forum guidelines (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1613) for well over a year (scroll down a bit). Also, those of us who are volunteering to point out the most egregious violations are not doing it to take mod authority upon ourselves at all. All we want is to help.

[igator210]

Though I agree in principle, I wonder at scope of inforcement.

Yes there are rules for grammar and spelling, but those rules are constantly changing. The dictionary is constantly adding words. New acronyms are always forming.

I agree that a lack of respest for the language (regardless of which language) is dangerious, but not everyone has the same mastery level.

I would consent to a Grammar Police roaming the boards, but only if they were looking for the broad or blantant issues. I've seen post that take me less then 5 seconds to spot more then 10 problems, these are the ones that need to be pointed out. Not the ones were you find one mistake because someone hit a wrong key (IE: don't vs don;t) or mixed up the "I before e" rule.

As far as acronyms (TPTB, LOL, Net, ILF), this is a little trickier. Everyone tends to shorten words in speach and the same is happening on the intenert. As long as the acronym is a generally accept one, I don't have a problem with it. If it is obvious that the acronym is just because of laziness, that should be pointed out.

[jagermyster70]

Okay, so here's my $.02. I just read through this thread today, and to be honest, think nothing is wrong with this idea at all. That is, as long as it doesn't get out of hand. I agree that netspeak is a complete pain in the arse and I have as much of an aversion to it as I do to bad spelling/grammar. I don't think it hurts anything to have a fellow poster remind someone that netspeak is not allowed here per the rules. As this board becomes more and more popular, its bound to attract folks who are accustomed to netspeak and think its perfectly acceptable (let alone understood) everywhere on the net. A gentle reminder hurts nothing, in my opinion.

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

I'd like to apologize for my behavior yesterday. I was already in a bit of a bad mood, and I should have stayed by my personal policy of refraining from posting while upset. Sorry guys. :o :flowers:

As for the Grammar Police... I would like to go through with it. I don't want to cause any trouble, however. We'll just see how it goes, I guess, and abolish it doesn't work out well.

Knowing the true intent of this thread, why it was started, I think the best thing that could happen here is a change of title.

I agree, that the thread title should be changed to avoid further confusion and mishap. If it's not too much trouble... :flowers:

[azteclady]

Dear URN4 :awwhug: I'm glad to see you feeling better today :flowers:

Please check your inbox in a minute, yes?

[azteclady]

As crass as posting twice in a row may be... UNR4 (and cinderellabop if you are here too), please check your inbox.

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

Thank you very much to the mod who just changed the title!

We are in the process of adopting a new Police Badge (thanks yung23 and azteclady!). It should be available very soon.

This is our police force as of now (including myself):

azteclady
Lost In His Eyes
YouFirst
Rocky Raccoon
Scott is 815
Sara-SNWG

Mod Sponsors:
Leuthen
cinderellabop

Deity:
cinderellabop

Please tell me if I have forgotten someone, or if you have since changed your mind and do not wish to be an officer.

The updated Mission Statement has (or will be in the next two minutes) been moved to the first post, to eliminate confusion.

[RunLoganRun]

Also, those of us who are volunteering to point out the most egregious violations are not doing it to take mod authority upon ourselves at all. All we want is to help.

Let me quote Simon & Garfunkel: "We'd like to help you learn to help yourself". All kidding aside, you may want to update your little badge to read 'Netspeak Police' since you changed the thread title.

"Badges ? We don't need no stinking badges !" (Ha-Ha)

[azteclady]

RunLoganRun, we are working on that as we speak. Just a few tweaks.

[wickedsweet]

azteclady said
Regarding the use of TPTB and lol, I think that, when in doubt, users should always refer to the LOST-tv dictionary.

:shhh: OK, I've been here for awhile now and I never knew there is a LOST-TV Dictionary:sorry:

Also just realized that this board offers spell check:o

[JacksGirlfriend]

No one here, that I'm aware of, is an English major and if I'm wrong you'll see it soon enough.

I was. But, as you guys know, I love all kinds of posters. I think everyone should speak at their comfort level as long as they are posting as intelligently and insightfully as they can. The diversity here makes for an interesting board.

[LostInWilderness]

I like this thread title a lot better.

[Brian]

I was. But, as you guys know, I love all kinds of posters. I think everyone should speak at their comfort level as long as they are posting as intelligently and insightfully as they can. The diversity here makes for an interesting board.
I knew there had to be at least 1 here on the board. :) That's why I left that as an open ended statement. I agree with this completely JG. It's the differences among us that make the community what it is as a whole.

Also, LIW, I agree about the title change. Thanks to whoever made the change.

[Rocky Raccoon]

We definately need a motto.

How about

"To serve and punctuate"

[moonshadow707]

"Netspeak & leetspeek (l33t5p33k): NO, non, nein, nyet" :no-no:

[Hatchboy]

What about the use of "^" to point out what the person above you has said, and elaborate or discuss that point, do we correct those?

p.s. sounds like fun:)

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

What about the use of "^" to point out what the person above you has said, and elaborate or discuss that point, do we correct those?

p.s. sounds like fun:)

We are nowhere near that picky. We only deal with the really netspeak-ridden posts.

And I'm glad it sounds like fun, it should be that way. :D ;)

[Hatchboy]

alright thanks for clarifying that.

[cinderellabop]

(I hate that when I edit a thread it doesn't get bumped.)

Here's the new badge, designed by yung, and resized by me:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/cinderellabop/misc/netspeakbadge.jpg

The oath will be coming soon!

[Scott]

Oh cool. Makes us look highly respectable. *uploads*

[Hatchboy]

looks great

[Jason and the ARGonauts]

Can I join?

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

Hello everyone! azteclady, cinderellabop, and I have approved of an oath for the officers, so that we may all follow a nice, tidy code of conduct.

If you have already been accepted into the Netspeak Patrol, please repeat this oath in a subsequent post.

I vow to defend the written word within this forum. I shall assist the administrators and moderators as well as I am able, and I shall fight against the evils of netspeak with all my might. I will remember that I am no greater than anyone else on the boards. I am to remain supportive, humble, firm, and just. All the while, I will bring honor to my badge and uphold the integrity of the Netspeak Patrol by adhering to our Mission Statement (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12108) and following the procedures therein described.

If you would like to be a part of the Netspeak Patrol:

Please bear with us a little while longer. We are working out an arrangement in which we can accept only those who are qualified while we avoid bordering on elitism. This might take a while, so please be patient with us. :)

In the meantime - Officers, please don't forget to update your signatures with the new badge! A huge thanks to yung23, azteclady, and cinderellabop!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y265/aemilia_rose/netspeakbadge.jpg

[Sara-SNWG]

I vow to defend the written word within this forum. I shall assist the administrators and moderators as well as I am able, and I shall fight against the evils of netspeak with all my might. I will remember that I am no greater than anyone else on the boards. I am to remain supportive, humble, firm, and just. All the while, I will bring honor to my badge and uphold the integrity of the Netspeak Patrol by adhering to our Mission Statement (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12108) and following the procedures therein described.

Sara-SNWG

[Scott]

I vow to defend the written word within this forum. I shall assist the administrators and moderators as well as I am able, and I shall fight against the evils of netspeak with all my might. I will remember that I am no greater than anyone else on the boards. I am to remain supportive, humble, firm, and just. All the while, I will bring honor to my badge and uphold the integrity of the Netspeak Patrol by adhering to our Mission Statement and following the procedures therein described.

Scott

(still to upload the new badge)

[Hatchboy]

I, Hatchboy, vow to defend the written word within this forum. I shall assist the administrators and moderators as well as I am able, and I shall fight against the evils of netspeak with all my might. I will remember that I am no greater than anyone else on the boards. I am to remain supportive, humble, firm, and just. All the while, I will bring honor to my badge and uphold the integrity of the Netspeak Patrol by adhering to our Mission Statement and following the procedures therein described.

[YouFirst]

I Youfirst, vow to defend the written word within this forum. I shall assist the administrators and moderators as well as I am able, and I shall fight against the evils of netspeak with all my might. I will remember that I am no greater than anyone else on the boards. I am to remain supportive, humble, firm, and just. All the while, I will bring honor to my badge and uphold the integrity of the Netspeak Patrol by adhering to our Mission Statement (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12108) and following the procedures therein described.

Now I need to upload the badge.

[Lost In His Eyes]

I vow to defend the written word within this forum. I shall assist the administrators and moderators as well as I am able, and I shall fight against the evils of netspeak with all my might. I will remember that I am no greater than anyone else on the boards. I am to remain supportive, humble, firm, and just. All the while, I will bring honor to my badge and uphold the integrity of the Netspeak Patrol by adhering to our Mission Statement and following the procedures therein described

-LIHE

[Jason and the ARGonauts]

I vow to defend the written word within this forum. I shall assist the administrators and moderators as well as I am able, and I shall fight against the evils of netspeak with all my might. I will remember that I am no greater than anyone else on the boards. I am to remain supportive, humble, firm, and just. All the while, I will bring honor to my badge and uphold the integrity of the Netspeak Patrol by adhering to our Mission Statement and following the procedures therein described.

-Saywat

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

Allow me to remind all of you to periodically check the first post of this thread (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12108), which I shall keep updated with all of the procedures and such regarding the Netspeak Patrol. Thanks, all!

[Brian]

Just an interesting signature file I saw earlier tonight while online. It belongs to poster Tatiana (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/member.php?u=4764). Thought the Netspeak Patrol, and others, might enjoy it. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/Leuthen2/antitxtbanner3ro1qg.gif

[uhavemel]

That's great! LOL

[Scott]

I like that. It certainly gets the point across.

[friskyFreak]

A reallly nice idea. I like Leuthen's banner :D


I'm rather useless as Netspeak officer but If you have some problems, I will borrow you my sword form the avatar. it's good one made of undestructible metal.

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

Just an interesting signature file I saw earlier tonight while online. It belongs to poster Tatiana (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/member.php?u=4764). Thought the Netspeak Patrol, and others, might enjoy it. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/Leuthen2/antitxtbanner3ro1qg.gif

That's amazing! I love it! :)

[feigenbaum]

Grammar is very underrated

I like that banner.

[Hatchboy]

Is it official then? That banner?

[Brian]

Is it official then? That banner?
Remember, I didn't make that banner. It's already someone else's signature pic. I posted her name with a link to her profile if URN4, or someone else, would like to contact her about it.

Please don't use it without Tatiana's permission. :)

[Hatchboy]

Alright, I read that but I wasn't sure if we had permission yet, that's why I didn't put it in my sig yet.

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

Alright, I read that but I wasn't sure if we had permission yet, that's why I didn't put it in my sig yet.

I don't think Leuthen showed it to us for us to take and use for ourselves. It's Tatiana's property. If she gives you permission, go for it. It's not an official Netspeak Patrol signature, though. Leuthen just thought we might like to see it for it's entertainment value.

[Brian]

Exactly URN4! :) Like I said, I thought it was humorous and I thought everyone here would get a laugh out of it. Too bad someone else thought of it first, I love it. :)

[Hatchboy]

alright, i guess i missunderstood a bit, and yes, it was hilarious!

[MJBinNC]

We have a netspeak child playing all over the board, guys..... it makes my eyes bleed

[LoStMyMiNd]

This thread sort of reminds me of LOTF

[Rocky Raccoon]

I vow to defend the written word within this forum. I shall assist the administrators and moderators as well as I am able, and I shall fight against the evils of netspeak with all my might. I will remember that I am no greater than anyone else on the boards. I am to remain supportive, humble, firm, and just. All the while, I will bring honor to my badge and uphold the integrity of the Netspeak Patrol by adhering to our Mission Statement and following the procedures therein described.


God Bless America

-Rocky

[seat213]

are you guys serious about this...i mean how bout giving it a break? not everyone cares about shortcuts taken to get to the same point. I'm not trying to get you guys po'd at me but does the fact that someone uses prolly or lmao really get to you guys?
I prolly shoulda just kept my mouth shut!
Seriously...aren't we all here to share thoughts and ideas on one of our favorite shows instead of making certain people feel bad or perhaps excluded because they choose to use netspeak or whatever it is that pisses you guys off

[NeillT006]

Tell me, you go over a man's house for the first time, do you take off your shoes? Do you put your feet up on his coffee table? Do you walk in the kitchen, eat food that doesn't belong to you? Open the door to rooms you got no business opening? . . . This is not your island. This is our island. And the only reason you're living on it is because we let you live on it.


BubbleBoy13
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Kentucky
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this thread is crap u kno that right?

man....

dont u guys remember y that hole monster/shannon/boone thing happened?

it was an illusion cuz Locke drugged boone....

so it does knock out the bird theory becuz in the episodes besides that 1 we dont hear the fluttering and sqwauking do we?




are you guys serious about this...

Prolly.

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

are you guys serious about this...i mean how bout giving it a break? not everyone cares about shortcuts taken to get to the same point. I'm not trying to get you guys po'd at me but does the fact that someone uses prolly or lmao really get to you guys?
I prolly shoulda just kept my mouth shut!
Seriously...aren't we all here to share thoughts and ideas on one of our favorite shows instead of making certain people feel bad or perhaps excluded because they choose to use netspeak or whatever it is that pisses you guys off

Believe me. You do not need to worry your little head about anything. Read our mission statement (first post) for our definition of netspeak. Using words like "Prolly" or "lol" once or twice does not qualify.

Excessive and nearly unreadable versions (OMFG i saw da monster in dis past epi!!11!!1!!1!!1!!) are what we are trying to clean up, to make the forum more accessible. It's in the forum rules, so in reality, nothing has changed at all. We are just making this often ignored rule more upfront.

[azteclady]

Welcome to the community, seat213!

To make your time in the forums more enjoyable, I suggest you read the Welcome forum (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=2) in its entirety, and pay attention to the time stamps. Then you will notice that the part quoted in the very first post of this thread has been a rule of the community for over a year. So yes, you could say we are serious.

For more information, read my signature. Thank you.

[Hatchboy]

You're so helpful in these threads az! lol "once a mod always a mod"

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

:awwhug: azteclady :awwhug:

:worshippy

[Hatchboy]

:worshippy :worshippy WORSHIP THE AMAZING AZ :worshippy :worshippy

[LoStMyMiNd]

are you guys serious about this...i mean how bout giving it a break? not everyone cares about shortcuts taken to get to the same point. I'm not trying to get you guys po'd at me but does the fact that someone uses prolly or lmao really get to you guys?
I prolly shoulda just kept my mouth shut!
Seriously...aren't we all here to share thoughts and ideas on one of our favorite shows instead of making certain people feel bad or perhaps excluded because they choose to use netspeak or whatever it is that pisses you guys off

Netspeak is like reading a foreign language to me.Once one gets past the BS one forgets what the point was the poster was trying to make. I think if you people want to continue typing this way, better come to the realization that people will either skip over your post and not read it or not take you seriously. Besides its in the Rules of this Forum

[Brian]

Besides its in the Rules of this Forum
Thanks LoStMyMiNd, very good point, indeed it is (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1613). If people would read the Welcome Forum (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=2) like we ask them too, they'd know this already. Never hurts to point it out though. :)

[LoStMyMiNd]

Thanks LoStMyMiNd, very good point, indeed it is (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1613). If people would read the Welcome Forum (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=2) like we ask them too, they'd know this already. Never hurts to point it out though. :)


Well I must admit that the way I spell my name is in violation, but I didn't know that until I read the Welcome Forum long after I created it. So I am in violation too. Yikes :)

[azteclady]

LoStMyMiNd, you could always ask an admin to change it ;) (there's a thread in the Help Desk for that) Just saying... :D

[LostInWilderness]

I'd rather blackmail her with it than change it. ;)

[Brian]

Now that's not nice! :) I don't have a problem with LoStMyMiNds name at all. That hardly qualifies for what the Netspeak Patrol is trying to counter. If LoStMyMiNd posted the way their name is, then I'd have a problem with it, obviously that isn't the case. :)

[LoStMyMiNd]

Now that's not nice! :) I don't have a problem with LoStMyMiNds name at all. That hardly qualifies for what the Netspeak Patrol is trying to counter. If LoStMyMiNd posted the way their name is, then I'd have a problem with it, obviously that isn't the case. :)


Hey yeah Leuthen you took the words right out of my keyboard. Its just a name, I don't type netspeak

[LostInWilderness]

There goes my blackmail material.

[Hatchboy]

Haha, you can still blackmail, because everytime he posts the netspeak is right there in the top-left corner

[LoStMyMiNd]

Haha, you can still blackmail, because everytime he posts the netspeak is right there in the top-left corner


Haha he is a she

[azteclady]

Now that I'm wearing my really nice, spiffy new signature, I'll get on with this formality:
I, azteclady, vow to defend the written word within this forum. I shall assist the administrators and moderators as well as I am able, and I shall fight against the evils of netspeak with all my might. I will remember that I am no greater than anyone else on the boards. I am to remain supportive, humble, firm, and just. All the while, I will bring honor to my badge and uphold the integrity of the Netspeak Patrol by adhering to our Mission Statement and following the procedures therein described."

[MJBinNC]

ooooooo....... nice sig!!!!!!!!!!! Impressive! and - a bit intimidating....

[Ellaroo]

Yes, very nice sig Az.

I'm rather intimidated too. :)

(ETA: MJ..love the Pengiun's new addition. I take it that's a Jesus Stick.)

[LoStMyMiNd]

That is a very cool search button AztecLady.....love it!

[azteclady]

Thank you!!! Actually, I need to add a credit to my signature, since Ida Monster very graciously let me use the search button image.

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

Awesome signature, azteclady!

[OMG its LFG]

i just want to apologize in advance for my lack of capital letters. I am currently working for a company that is going under, and my keyboard is broken and they won't give me a new one. sometimes i can get them it to work, but most of the time it does what it wants...

thank you
jami

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

i just want to apologize in advance for my lack of capital letters. I am currently working for a company that is going under, and my keyboard is broken and they won't give me a new one. sometimes i can get them it to work, but most of the time it does what it wants...

thank you
jami

No problem, dearie. Believe me, if what you just posted is a typical example of how you type, you are perfectly fine (and despite the broken keyboard, it is a lot better than what is often posted around here!) Don't worry your head about anything. :)

[OMG its LFG]

No problem, dearie. Believe me, if what you just posted is a typical example of how you type, you are perfectly fine (and despite the broken keyboard, it is a lot better than what is often posted around here!) Don't worry your head about anything. :)


thanks a lot! I just dont want people to think i always type like this. Its just a pain to try and make a capital everytime.

-J

[yung23]

here guys, now I want to find this badge somewhere.

or just use this, it fits.

sizing however may be a problem...

http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/6443/pdvd0262js.jpg

[Unnamed Redshirt Number 4]

:clap: I like it!

[azteclady]

yung23 :worshippy We are not worthy!

[Subject # 4815162342]

http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/l/c/lcn109/US-Marshal-Badge.gif

Yung23,Is this what you're looking for?

[Brian]

Nice sig Subject, and thanks for the link to the US Marshal's badge.

[yung23]

thank you, thats much better

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/7107/losttvnetspeak1ld.jpg
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5804/losttvnetspeak7ch.jpg

[Brian]

thank you, thats much better

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/7107/losttvnetspeak1ld.jpg
Great pic, yung23! Thanks! I'm sure the Netspeak Patrol will love it! :)

[yung23]

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4315/losttvnetspeak129ku.jpg

heres one more like sawyers in the pict.

[The Swan]

Lung Liv Nat Spek!!!

[The Swan]

Lung Liv Nat Spek!!!
Lung Liv Nat Spek!!!
Lung Liv Nat Spek!!!

SORRY!!!

[cinderellabop]

We are not amused. :thwak:

[The Swan]

I cant help myself!!!!

Not even get a slight titter??
I used to wind you up something rotten as ukcastaway

[cinderellabop]

Ah, so you've switched countries, have you? Well, as I recall, I used to :thwak: you quite a bit before...

[The Swan]

Thats why i had to leave the uk and start a fresh in canada!!! It was all too much..................

*LOST style flashback to cinderellabop repeatedly hitting ukcastaway*

Oh no the memories, not again, not again...............

[LostInWilderness]

Do you want me to associate ukcastaway with canadiancastaway so you can get control of your old posts (and Cindi won't forget who she's beating?)

[The Swan]

Yeah that would be cool, thanks LIW!!

[LostInWilderness]

ukcastaway has been absorbed by canadiancastaway. Next time they kick you out of a country, just ask me to change your name. ;)

[Brian]

ukcastaway has been absorbed by canadiancastaway. Next time they kick you out of a country, just ask me to change your name. ;)
:rotfl: Much easier that way I think. :)

[The Swan]

ukcastaway has been absorbed by canadiancastaway. Next time they kick you out of a country, just ask me to change your name. ;)

They didnt kick me out!!! I just left before they found enough evidence too!!!

:nanabobo:

[Brian]

They didnt kick me out!!! I just left before they found enough evidence too!!!

:nanabobo:
:rotfl: Well then, welcome back. ;)

[LostInWilderness]

They didnt kick me out!!! I just left before they found enough evidence too!!!

:nanabobo:
That's your version of what happened.

[The Swan]

That's your version of what happened.

And im sticking to it so:nanabobo:

Theyll never be able to get that alsation to testify anyways..................

[Ellaroo]

CC! You are bad.

(Only stopped in to point out that you are talking like them already! Anyway doesn't have an 'S' on. Come back now before you start misspelling colour. ;) )

[The Swan]

Anyway does have an S on the end, as used in the phrase "Anyways, as i was telling you.............."
Colour is color
A friend is not a mate its a buddy
Crisps are chips
Chips are crisps
The only way to start your day is coffee (Tim Hortons double double please!!) and a donut!!


OH MY GOD im becoming a canadian. If i start singing Bryan Adams shoot me!!

[Alibrastar]

I disagree...no S on Anyway.

[Ellaroo]

I'm sure 'anyways' is bordering on netspeak! ;)

CC:A friend is not a mate its a buddy
Crisps are chips
Chips are crisps

Come home now mate I'm worried. I think you need a mug of PG and a bag of fish and chips. And remember, once the novelty of your northern monkeyness wears off you won't be pulling any birds over there either. ;)

[Scott]

Just give him a pint and he'll be normal again.

[Brian]

Just give him a pint and he'll be normal again.
:rotfl:

Sidenote - Thanks for the World Map (http://www.frappr.com/losttv), Scott! I've added the link as a sticky in the Spoiler Forum!

[Scott]

You're welcome Leuth, always happy to help out.

And thanks for making it a sticky there.

It's a large cycle of thanks on this board :)

[The Swan]

Just give him a pint and he'll be normal again.

:drinky:Me..............drink.............NEVER!!! :Cheers:

[azteclady]

I miss Unnamed Redshirt Number 4.

A lot.

[kd8ch]

Here are some of the characteristics of Netspeak: inattention to the norms of spelling and grammar; the use of all-lowercase letters; tonal informality; infrequent punctuation; the widespread use of abbreviations and acronyms; turning nouns into verbs, turning numbers into words or parts of words.

e e cummings was writing in netspeak long before the internet!