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truffula

01-12-06, 07:43 PM

Hey all!
Yal seem to be covering the Bible verse pretty well - great job yal!

Just wanted to mention a couple of things here
The last segment of REVELATIONS set up the new ep SO well. The reedit of Michael Giacchino's score with the reedited scenes.....from when Eko said "Ana Lucia made a mistake" and the music started, I was choken em back. Seein Sayid carrying Shannon, and the look that Jack and Ana exchanged - so much more profound with that score set to it.
And I think the line from last night that stuck with me the most was when Eko put on the cross and replied "Yes, I am a priest".
Just INCREDIBLE acting by Adawale. And such a powerful moment in the story of Eko too. Yeah, I was chokin em back when he was mourning Yemi too. Such POWER.

I can't WAIT to go home and rewatch it and cap the HELL out of the MINDSCANNER. :D

Peace,
Truff

Jeannie

01-12-06, 07:47 PM

Hi ILE!

I completely agree - Adewale did an amazing job last night. I saw some of those comments. I don't get what they are thinking. But then, I don't get the folks who thought last night's episode was lousy either. Oh well, to each his own.

I agree that the shadow and valley thing fit so well with Smokey, but what got me was that that line was where Charlie joined in, and he said it the same way that Eko did. And I've never heard it said that way before. Oh well, it definitely worked!

Tank in Texas

01-12-06, 07:48 PM

I also googled 23rd Psalm King James Version, and the first 3 sites I checked also show it as Valley of the Shadow. So I don't know where the Shadow of the Valley thing Eko (and Charlie) said last night came from. My son mentioned it sounded wrong, and I told him it must be a Catholic version. Guess I'll have to tell him that's not true either!
I was raised Baptist (now recovering) and we always said "valley of the shadow".

Powerful story last night. I am impressed with the development of Eko as a character. Adewale IS amazing, in a cast full of standout actors he and Terry O'Quinn are my rivals for top billing. And Truf, you're right about that last line. I too choked back a few!

I am disappointed by the fact that Charlie went through the prayer with Eko, yet still returns to his stash of virgins (insert joke here...) It is true to his character, he is a weak man.

ILoveEko

01-12-06, 07:59 PM

You know what I loved about when Eko was crying over Yemi's body?
The drool. As gross as that sounds, it was real. It was a real, raw cry. We're not pretty when we cry, the drool just made everything seem so real. It was such a strong performance.

I teared up when he cried.
Granted I'm like that a lot with tv shows I invest in, but we were just learning about Eko. Adewale is really amazing. I wish I could meet him. Write him a letter to tell him how spectacular I think he is. He really has an amazing skill.

Jeannie

01-12-06, 08:01 PM

Well, if you google "Shadow of the Valley of Death" you find that it was the name of a Marilyn Manson CD.

Maybe one of the writers is a Marilyn Manson fan and did it for a joke. ;)

keepthefaith

01-12-06, 08:01 PM

Did we find out why Eko was on the plan? (I can't watch until tomorrow night, remember.)

ILoveEko

01-12-06, 08:03 PM

No we didn't, faith.

Jeannie

01-12-06, 08:05 PM

raiderfan43

01-12-06, 08:05 PM

no, and I am a little confused as to why his (Ekos) leiutenant would kick him off the plane, and not let him board, kinda strange, unless he was just planning to keep the money from the drug sale himself and not come back

keepthefaith

01-12-06, 08:07 PM

Okay, so was Eko supposed to be on the drug plane? If so, that is something else we have speculated about from Vincent, that Eko ended up in the same place anyway.

rottenralf

01-12-06, 08:08 PM

My impression the "friend" was going to keep the money himself. He saved Eko's life two ways, he "pushed" him out of the drug trade and (2) forced him to assume his brothers identity as a priest to escape arrest. And as VDM would say, both reasons appear evil, but in reality were good.

rottenralf

01-12-06, 08:09 PM

Faith, "the Road Not Taken" although in this instance Eko choose the better path.

Jeannie

01-12-06, 08:11 PM

raider, my thought was that Mr. Gold Tooth was furious that Yemi had informed the military on them. He took Yemi's body, then left Eko to deal with the military... not realizing that the military men would believe that Eko really was the priest.

That's how I interpreted it anyway. Anybody have a different take?

aggiesean

01-12-06, 08:12 PM

Well, if you google "Shadow of the Valley of Death" you find that it was the name of a Marilyn Manson CD.

Maybe one of the writers is a Marilyn Manson fan and did it for a joke. ;)

Anything's possible. Though, when I think about it, with the original Hebrew translating into "dark valley", it's an embellishment of that when it's read as "valley of the shadow of death" or "shadow of the valley of death"...either way works I think. Though you could also say that the black smoke is the shadow of the "valley of death."

Hey, how much of a difference does it make that he recited the King James version?
The nuns would have hit me if they caught me with KJV, let alone reading from "the unofficial translation." But I may have been wrong earlier, it may not have been KJV either. Hmm...

I have to rewatch the drug deal scene when I get home and listen to the Arabic carefully. I heard people on another board commenting on hearing "Sayid" in what they said, but depending on how they said it it could have been:
Sa'id (Sayid) =our beloved Iraqi
or
Sa'id=happy
or
Sayyid=sir
or
Sayyidah=trap
I'm guessing it's more likely the third, but I'll listen in closer (Arabic-English dictionary in hand) and check it out later.

And now to end this post on a high note,
SIX DAYS FIVE HOURS 47 MINUTES UNTIL NEW LOST!!!!!
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SanityAmongstChaos

01-12-06, 08:16 PM

I agree with Ralf about the lieutenant stealing the drugs for himself. After all, Eko's brother did just turn them into the authorities. I wasn't sure, though, why he helped Eko put Yemi's body on the plane. That didn't make any sense to me. Maybe he thought he could get something from Eko in exchange for Yemi's body. Or maybe he had some sick sort of vengeance planned. Or maybe it was the best way the writers could come up with to have Yemi's body on the plane.

Ralf, excelleng point about the two ways that guy saved Eko's life.

My theory about why Eko was on 815: he knew the drugs were headed for L.A. and hoped to get be there when his old friend arrived. I wonder what Eko thinks of the "coincidence" of both planes crashing on the same island? He gives no indication that he thinks it odd for the plane to show up on an island in the south pacific.

ILoveEko

01-12-06, 08:16 PM

I was thinking the same with the name aggie. Not only have we had different names used more than once (Shannon's Brian, Walt's Brian; Ana's Jason, Kate's Jason) but with it being an ethnic name, there are many different things it could mean and someone who doesn't recognize the language could just interpret it as the Island's Sayid.
Let us know what you find out.

ILoveEko

01-12-06, 08:21 PM

My theory about why Eko was on 815: he knew the drugs were headed for L.A. and hoped to get be there when his old friend arrived. I wonder what Eko thinks of the "coincidence" of both planes crashing on the same island? He gives no indication that he thinks it odd for the plane to show up on an island in the south pacific.
Sanity, as for headed for LA... Why was he in Sydney then? If the drugs were going from Nigeria to LA, there would be no reason for the plane to be near Sydney. Nigeria is on the Western coast of Africa.
And I don't think he would have been looking for the guy with the gold tooth. I shall call him Goldie.
Anyway, I don't think he would have been looking for Goldie. Locke said 2-10 years. It doesn't take 2 years to get from Nigeria to wherever the drugs were meant to go. Especially if he knew where they were going originally.
Granted, with this show, anything is possible.

rottenralf

01-12-06, 08:22 PM

SanityAmongstChaos

01-12-06, 08:23 PM

I am disappointed by the fact that Charlie went through the prayer with Eko, yet still returns to his stash of virgins (insert joke here...) It is true to his character, he is a weak man.

I'm not so sure Charlie can be written off as weak just yet. It may be misplaced, but I have faith in him. To be honest, I keep thinking he may have kept the statue near him more as a reminder of his faith than for the comfort of knowing the drug was there if he wanted it. I can't come up with a good explanation of why he would have gathered all the statues up together, though.

(You know, this post probably deserves to be in general discussion, but I just can't seem to drag myself out of the spin-off area any more.)

aggiesean

01-12-06, 08:25 PM

I wonder what Eko thinks of the "coincidence" of both planes crashing on the same island? He gives no indication that he thinks it odd for the plane to show up on an island in the south pacific.

This is the same guy who stared down a column of black smoke flashing pictures of his life. I'm guessing he's given up on what he finds odd on this island. Which would explain why I had a hard time coming up with a good WTF avatar for him too.

ETA: Sanity, I know EXACTLY what you mean!

SanityAmongstChaos

01-12-06, 08:29 PM

Sanity - I think when Sayid was examining the wreckage in the earlier episode, he said the plane crashed about 3 years prior. This would exclude Eko from trying to intercept the plane, unless that beechcraft had a really slow air cruising speed.
I missed or forgot about that reference to the crash being 3 years ago. He could have still been trying to track down Goldie, though. Even if he has forgotten his old life and forgiven his partners, he would want to know what happened to Yemi's body. That would be just a guess, though. Nothing to back it up.

Penelope

01-12-06, 08:30 PM

Faith, "the Road Not Taken" although in this instance Eko choose the better path.

Exactly! Now the clue to that poem makes perfect sense!

Penelope

01-12-06, 08:31 PM

I haven't had the chance to rewatch the episode, but did we ever learn WHERE the plane was heading to from Nigeria? I mean, if they are in the South Pacific as we think they are, how on earth did that little plane get all the way over there? One of the planes does not belong on that island...

aggiesean

01-12-06, 08:35 PM

One of the planes does not belong on that island...

I don't think any plane leaves an airport thinking it'll go to Craphole Island, Penelope. :p

Though if a small Nigerian plane can crash on the island, it makes it more likely that Eve is Amelia Earhart (my current theory on her).

SanityAmongstChaos

01-12-06, 08:37 PM

how on earth did that little plane get all the way over there?
Perhaps by a series of small hops. They might have been flying across Africa and south Asia from one small airport to another to avoid the hassles of customs. Of course, at some point, they must have set out across open water for the plane to arrive on that island by any reasonable means.

keepthefaith

01-12-06, 08:38 PM

Right ralf, the "The Road Not Taken," that is what I was talking about...

Tank in Texas

01-12-06, 08:53 PM

Though if a small Nigerian plane can crash on the island, it makes it more likely that Eve is Amelia Earhart (my current theory on her). Whom, pray tell, is Adam? Are those the kind of theories they teach down in College Station? ;-)

rottenralf

01-12-06, 08:55 PM

Adam would be Fred Noonan, who was Amelia's co-pilot on the flight.

Tank in Texas

01-12-06, 08:56 PM

Adam would be Fred Noonan, who was Amelia's co-pilot on the flight. Teach me to post without searching for info first. Maybe I should've gone to A&M. What about the black and white stones?

aggiesean

01-12-06, 08:57 PM

Whom, pray tell, is Adam? Are those the kind of theories they teach down in College Station? ;-)

NM, Ralf corrected the Longhorn.;)

keepthefaith

01-12-06, 08:59 PM

I remember talking about this too. I asked the same question about the stones. I don't remember which thread we were on, and I don't remember what conclusions we drew. We did talk about the fact that they probably lived on the island for a few years. The stones probably came into play during that time.

3-Putt

01-12-06, 09:00 PM

I don't think any plane leaves an airport thinking it'll go to Craphole Island, Penelope. :p

Though if a small Nigerian plane can crash on the island, it makes it more likely that Eve is Amelia Earhart (my current theory on her).

Sean,

Speaking of Amelia....

Talking about Adam and Eve (Amelia and Fred ?) has made me think again about a question that has been bugging me for some time. Please help me come up with a reasonable explanation.

This is going to be a long post. I can feel it right now.

In my mind, I have concluded that it is too much
of a coincidence for all of these (Danielle's ship, the Beechcraft,
Desmond's boat , Flight 815, and perhaps The Black Rock and Amelia's plane) to have shipwrecked/plane-crashed onto this island unless they were all wrecked by the same mechanism (what Danielle called the island's "security system"). Otherwise, you must conclude that they all ended up there because of different causes. That seems highly unlikely.

So, the question is: when did the security system come into being ?

For the sake or argument, let's say the security system was in place prior to the Dharma construction projects. That seems reasonable given the existence of The Black Rock and of "Adam and Eve".

For that statement to be true, the scenario had to play out like this:

Alvar Hanso bankrolls the Dharma Initiative to construct between 2 and
6 (maybe more) research stations on or near this island. After planning
and preparation, the first wave of transport
ships/helicopters/airplanes arrives on the island. (If it was
airplanes, then we have an as yet undiscovered landing strip somewhere
or it was removed completely.) This first wave brings all materials and
workers to construct the first station. Imagine for a second the task
of building a one or two-story building ... FIVE STORIES underground.
The amount of equipment, supplies and number of workers would be
considerable.

Now, Alvar Hanso never hears from them again, right ? What good is a security system that lets some vehicles through sometimes ?

So, what does Alvar do ? Well, he gathers up yet another team and sends them off...never to hear from them again. Then, he does that up to five
more times. That is, unless he sent all the material and supplies and
workers for all the stations, all at once. (Realistically, there had to
have been an advance team to scout out the island in the first place
for planning purposes....and they never came back. So, Alvar would not
have sent the first construction team to begin with.)
Either:
1. The Lost creators didn't think this through.
2. Alvar Hanso was in radio communication with the first crew, knew
they were OK and waiting for further supplies. (Does this imply he is
still in communication with them ?)
- OR -
3. I am all wet and I am just in need of my medication again.

IF people came and went to the island during the
Dharma construction timeframe, that means that the Black Rock was the
victim of a tsunami and not the victim of the island's security system
AND it means that the island's security system came into being
during or after the Dharma construction. (Again, number 3 above is the
most likely answer to all of this.)

IF the security system was in place before the Dharma construction, then why were all the Dharma
vehicles exempt. If they were NOT exempt, then why did Alvar Hanso
continue the construction, given all the considerable losses that they
must have sustained. So, in my mind, that implies the security system
is a construct of (or an unintended by-product of) Alvar Hanso's Dharma
projects and did not exist before the Dharma construction.
Come to think of it, I guess it's possible that Alvar Hanso could have
struck an alliance with whatever/whoever controls the security system
so that they temporarily turned it off during the Dharma construction.

Wow, that was long. Sorry.

By the way, Sean, lovin' the monkey butler...

Penelope

01-12-06, 09:02 PM

[quote=aggiesean]I don't think any plane leaves an airport thinking it'll go to Craphole Island, Penelope. :p quote]

LOL :D

I never thought of the possibility they made several stops on the journey either. I guess that explains it. But we still don't know WHERE it was supposed to go. That I think will be an important point, who knows when though.

So you really think Adam and Eve is Earhart, eh? Well on 'CRAPHOLE ISLAND', I guess anything is possible. If a skeleton appears looking like Elvis however, I'm protestin'...

Tank in Texas

01-12-06, 09:04 PM

NM, Ralf corrected the Longhorn.;) Mean Green Eagle actually. I went to North Texas.

Penelope

01-12-06, 09:05 PM

Has everyone seen Vincent's clue at the Oceanic World Air site:

Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 01:59 pm:
23rd Psalm had a few important clues.

1. Walt asked Michael if he was alone.
2. Note the small part of 23rd Psalm that Charlie joined in - SHADOW of the VALLEY of death. (VFD)
3. Eko's comment about evil and righteousness.

More to come....
Vincent

aggiesean

01-12-06, 09:08 PM

Mean Green Eagle actually. I went to North Texas.

I apologize for the offense then! :footinmou

And I need a few more minutes to think over your theory, 3-Putt, but if Alvar is behind the first group going to the island, then Adam and Eve being 50+ years old (according to Jack) means Alvar must REALLY be using life extension if he's still alive today IMHO.

ILoveEko

01-12-06, 09:12 PM

Yeah. If he was a munitions dealer in WWII, he had to be what, at least 30's. I don't think many places would take munitions from a 20 year old, lol. Marvin said something about Alvar's age area in one of his emails, didn't he?I 'm gonna go check.

Tank in Texas

01-12-06, 09:13 PM

And I need a few more minutes to think over your theory, 3-Putt, but if Alvar is behind the first group going to the island, then Adam and Eve being 50+ years old (according to Jack) means Alvar must REALLY be using life extension if he's still alive today IMHO. No offense taken. I am non-partisan when it comes to in-state football rivalries. I had thought about the life-extension thing when readin 3-Putt's post as well. That's way to juicy of a subject just to be thrown out for scrap. That security system could be very, very old indeed. Don't forget about the possibility of time distortion though...

oceanic_lisa

01-12-06, 09:13 PM

And I need a few more minutes to think over your theory, 3-Putt, but if Alvar is behind the first group going to the island, then Adam and Eve being 50+ years old (according to Jack) means Alvar must REALLY be using life extension if he's still alive today IMHO.
Well, how old is Joop supposed to be again?? I don't know if we should assume anything from the fact that the children were being taken (life extension needs to start at a young age, before puberty hits and the pituitary gland takes over??) but I suppose it could also be possible that Alvar has switched to experimenting on children because his experiments on adults did not work the way he wanted them to.

aggiesean

01-12-06, 09:13 PM

Marvin said something about Alvar's age area in one of his emails, didn't he?I 'm gonna go check.

It was either "he's 40 years older than me but acts 20 years younger" or "he's 20 years older than me but acts 40 years younger."

ILoveEko

01-12-06, 09:17 PM

Alvar may technically 40 years older than me, but he looks and acts 20 years younger.
That was it.

supermodel

01-12-06, 09:27 PM

Tank - stash of virgins. Isn't that what agrillo's putting together in the tail section? :p

oceanic_lisa

01-12-06, 09:28 PM

Tank in Texas

01-12-06, 09:29 PM

Tank - stash of virgins. Isn't that what agrillo's putting together in the tail section? :p

agrillo and tail-section virgins, eh? :naughty:

Sorry. Too much Howard Stern for me the last few days.

Jeannie

01-12-06, 09:30 PM

My husband (and at least one other person - I refuse to comment more on the grounds that I may incriminate myself) would have to disagree on that one... :naughty:

I have to second that comment!

Penelope

01-12-06, 09:30 PM

My husband (and at least one other person - I refuse to comment more on the grounds that I may incriminate myself) would have to disagree on that one... :naughty:

And I take third to that comment! :p

Lab

01-12-06, 10:00 PM

afternoon all, just checking in real quick to get caught up, im about to leave work, but figured the more I get caught up now, the less I will have when I get home.....

3-putt.....I like what your saying, buddy.....my only problem with your theory is that you have every plane/boat that comes in close proximity to the Island crashing (for example, you say Hanso wouldn't keep sending more if the first ones never came back or communicated.) Who is to say that every plane/boat that comes close crashes there. I am sure planes/boats/whatever carrying Hanso equipment could have come and gone, just like I am sure that if someone looked in the right spot or came for the Losties, they could do it without crashing. I just don't think the island/security system causes Everything to crash, just some things, some times......

Long time no see, btw, 3-putt!

Sanity, I really like your idea about the Hanso site. Not saying I like or dislike the implications, but I love the theory noneless!

Alright all, see you in about an hour from home. Getting ready to leave work now!

ETA: Congrats raider and Tank on 100 posts! In Too Deep!

truffula

01-12-06, 10:12 PM

YAY!!! No more work today!! :D
It looks like a have ALOT of reading to do in a bunch of the threads....
Gonna go catch up and then I'll be back to report in for real.

A quick side note - is it just me, or are any of you who frequent bss1 lookin at the words you've typed thinkin which ones are gonna change? I just typed "for real" above and the first thing I thought was, that's gonna change. But then I realized I can say WALT all I want in here! ;)

Be back and up to speed soon.
Peace,
Truff

ILoveEko

01-12-06, 10:14 PM

The woman in Eko's scene with Smokey...
http://lost.cubit.net/pics/2x10/ekoVsMonsterWoman2.jpg

She looks young, very pretty... Did Eko not say "worse" when asked if he was married or something?
Maybe that's why he was in Sydney. His wife was kidnapped by the warlords after he changed his ways, or something happened and she took off or something. Maybe he was looking for her.
This is my new theory, haha. Thought I'd mention it to you guys since I don't venture much anywhere else, and if I do, it's commenting on other people's threads, lol.
Just thought I'd throw it out here, it's not detailed enough for T&S, haha.
That could be a Nigerian wedding dress. I've got a Nigerian friend, I think I'll ask him if the dress is anything important. If he knows anything about it at all, :p

ILoveEko

01-12-06, 10:15 PM

Welcome home, Truff :)

supermodel

01-12-06, 10:20 PM

ILE, I though she was one of the women they shooed out of the church when Eko interupted Yemi hearing confession. But I may be totally wrong, I didn't record the ep. Maybe we can compare a screenshot.

Speaking of that scene, wasn't that when Yemi tells Eko "you have no soul?" That was awesome, my blood ran kind of cold because we know he becomes a man of faith.

ILoveEko

01-12-06, 10:23 PM

There is another woman in the smoke who looks like one of the women from the church.
I don't remember this woman, but I could also be wrong.
I researched a little bit, couldn't find a whole lot on traditional Nigerian wedding garb, but the dress that woman in the picture is wearing looks just like an every day outfit.

truffula

01-12-06, 10:27 PM

Just finished up with this thread.....have two things to say -

3-Putt - I say it again - I REALLY like how your mind works. That post you made back there was something else! My take would be that Dharma/Hanso is responsible for the Security System/Mindscanner. I would elaborate more, but I still have reading, rewatching, and capping to do. But AWESOME ideas!! :D

Crud. Now I forget what else I was gonna say.
If it comes to me, I'll tag on an ETA.

ETA - that was it - ILE I'll have really good caps of the mindscanner very soon. I'll post em in here so they don't get LOST in the Ep Thread in GD ;)

Peace,
Truff

ILoveEko

01-12-06, 10:29 PM

Truff, don't forget we wanna know why you say TPTB like you so much, lol.

ETA: I'm gonna go for a little bit, wanna try something out on the computer, supper will be shortly, so I'll talk to you all later. :)

truffula

01-12-06, 10:35 PM

ILE - I plan to explain everything tonight. As best I can.

But first......time to REWATCH and CAP!!! :D:D:D:D:D

Peace,
Truff

agrillo

01-12-06, 10:35 PM

Tank - stash of virgins. Isn't that what agrillo's putting together in the tail section? :p

My husband (and at least one other person - I refuse to comment more on the grounds that I may incriminate myself) would have to disagree on that one... :naughty:

That's great Tank. I'm lovin it. Don't worry ladies. The secret is safe.

Okay, so was Eko supposed to be on the drug plane? If so, that is something else we have speculated about from Vincent, that Eko ended up in the same place anyway.

That's a good thought faith. I hadn't thought of that, but I like it.

agrillo

01-12-06, 10:59 PM

Well I'm off yet again. This sucks though. That means I have to wait til I get home to see Truff's monster post that's coming up. Have fun gang.

aggiesean

01-12-06, 11:00 PM

Ah, the good ol' BBR...how I've missed thee in the hour and a half it took me to get home...

When y'all rewatch 23rd Psalm, listen into the Arabic during the drug-dealer scene. You may hear something that sounds like Sa'id, our beloved Iraqi, but alas, it's not. I played that scene when I got back home, and the word that I'm hearing there is "yuSayyidna", or "he trapped us." It fits with the scene, but it seems odd-placing to me...almost purposely putting in a word that sounds similar to the English listener (Sa'id sounds like Sayyid unless you know what to listen for), but is completely different in reality. A false easter egg, perhaps, considering the real Sa'id easter-egg just before this in "What Kate Did."

supermodel

01-12-06, 11:09 PM

Aggie, someone who speaks rudimentary Arabic came to the same conclusion ot TWoP.

And hello! an hour and a half commute? Gotta be either DC or NYC...

My commute is 3.5 miles. If it takes more than 15 minutes I get road rage.

aggiesean

01-12-06, 11:11 PM

And hello! an hour and a half commute? Gotta be either DC or NYC...

More like small-town public transit confusingly detouring around a natural gas explosion on campus and thus getting stuck by a train for half an hour.:rolleyez:

supermodel

01-12-06, 11:33 PM

Before I sign off, I have one more comment. All you Eko and Sawyer lovers out there need to see the light. For my money, the hottest guy on that island is Daniel Dae Kim. I never really noticed him on Angel or 24 (and I watch that show pretty religiously), but as Jin he is hot hot hot!

With that said....good night all, I have a late meeting tonight and won't be back to the computer. It is Thursday after all, there is live music at the bar! truffula, I'm looking forward to reading your manifesto in the morning.

aggiesean

01-12-06, 11:35 PM

Night supermodel!

Lab

01-12-06, 11:46 PM

HOT DAMN! Finally, I am home for the night!

later supermodel.................... wassup aggie, sorry about that wack commute you just had!

...about to rewatch myself now.....I haven't seen it since original airing last night, now time to rewatch and analyze.

......and speaking of, and before I rewatch, did anybody else think that the Smoke/security system kind of took the shape of a buffalo for a few moments when confronting Eko?

aggiesean

01-12-06, 11:58 PM

......and speaking of, and before I rewatch, did anybody else think that the Smoke/security system kind of took the shape of a buffalo for a few moments when confronting Eko?

WASSUP LAB!!!

And yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if it became a buffalo in there...the show not wanting to make it too obvious or anything for those who don't see Mr. Clucks or anything, but Charlie and buffaloes seem to be connected.

Lab

01-13-06, 12:09 AM

and I for one didn't see any images from Ekos past in the smoke either, but I am gonna watch for that too.....

...how did that work evaluation go, aggie?

aggiesean

01-13-06, 12:11 AM

...how did that work evaluation go, aggie?

Still waiting for a response. :mad: I still can't do anymore until my boss gets back to me. Tomorrow unless I get an e-mail from him I'm just staying home. No use going in when all I do is read the forums (pretty much like I do at home). Oh well, four day weekend.

Penelope

01-13-06, 12:13 AM

Jeannie

01-13-06, 12:15 AM

Still waiting for a response. :mad: I still can't do anymore until my boss gets back to me. Tomorrow unless I get an e-mail from him I'm just staying home. No use going in when all I do is read the forums (pretty much like I do at home). Oh well, four day weekend.

I'd kill for a four day weekend right about now. Since we are now officially in "tax season" I have to work six day weeks starting this week. And in late February and early March I usually end up working Sundays too. :(

Hopefully April will get here soon!

VeeAyetheCPA

01-13-06, 12:43 AM

Just out of curiosity, what is the Catholic version? I didn't know that the KJV wasn't used by Catholics. (I, for one, like the KJV with it's Old English. I think the church should be allowed some formality.)
England became Protestant under Henry VIII. The King James Version is also called the "Authorized Version." The translation was authorized by King James of England (his mom was Mary, Queen of Scots, the one that Queen Elizabeth I had executed). Some people are still really passionate about the KJV (I prefer NKJV or NIV).

There is disagreement between Catholics and Protestants about which books make up the Bible. Catholics recognize additional books that Protestant don't (such as Esdras, Tobit, Maccabees, etc). Also, Catholics have a few additional verses in Daniel (can't remember if there are other instances) that Protestants don't.

Catholic versions usually carry the "Imprimatur" and "Nil Obstat" which I think are seals of approval from higher ups in the church. Sometimes there will be this little symbol thing on the front cover. One well known Catholic version is the Jerusalem Bible.

You'll find that the Catholic and Protestant versions of the Lord's Prayer usually differ slightly (since they were based on different translations of the Bible) and the the two groups divide the Ten Commandments up slightly differently as well.

VA

And I'm still having to use the go-around to get in here. And I keep getting logged out (like it did when I was writing this post). I sure will be happy when things get back to normal around here.

Jeannie

01-13-06, 12:47 AM

VA, I'm having the same problems from my home computer. At work things are fine. In my case, once I get logged out I have to go clear my cookies or I can't log back in. It's a real pain!

Plus using the backdoor rather than my link in my favorites is a pain as well.

I had PM'd one of the mods last night, and he told me that others are having the problem too. Hopefully they'll fix it soon.

truffula

01-13-06, 01:03 AM

Some people have just showed up so I gotta be social for a few, but I thought I'd leave yal with some of my addendum notes from last night's ep to chew on til I get back.

Here ya go. See ya in a little bit.

- "Where is Charlie?" - (Eko to Claire) - note to self: don't piss off Mr. Eko, EVER.

- 25 and 29 are the two numbers shown that Locke uses to open up the arsenal

- look for the Kinks music on EMRI

- yep, drug dealer says "sayiddna" NOT "sayid"

- mindscanner has a distinct sound when in "snake" form (the sound may possibly be connected to the form)

- the clicking sounds when the camera passed thru the mindscanner was it taking pictures of Eko's mind - the thoughts he was "projecting" at the time (thus the reason why we see these things in his FBs) - this is what's going though his mind - YES, the FBs now have an explanation! :D

- when Locke saw IT in Walkabout was the same thing, Locke was scanned, he was thinking about Helen (called Kate "Helen" and took off for the boar). Guess who you think he saw in the smoke? "Something Beautiful" - his Helen.

- Things seen in the smoke: The old man Young Eko shot, Young Eko and Yemi, Eko as priest? A woman, and a Crucifix

- "Where are you?" says Mike to Compy. Then BAM "Dad?" on the screen again. They are SO being watched.

- Walt chat from bss1/Michael chat on the show: Anyone/Michael>: Are you okay? walt>: Yes. Anyone/Michael>: Are you alone? walt>: Yes. Can't talk long They're coming back soon. Anyone/Michael: Where are you? - EXACTLY LIKE BSS1!!! :D

Now here's the good part - walt's final message (and Mike DEFINITELY saw the whole thing cause he gazed at it) "You need to com...." I believe finishing this would be "You need to come and get me".

Now I notice the ">:" appears over different responses, not just for one user. For reference the following things had the >: in front of it: Are you O.K.? and walt's second Yes.

I also notice the clock is at 47:00 when Jack walks in

- Yemi somehow KNEW about the future fate of the Beachcraft, thus preventing Eko from getting on it. Too bad Yemi. Eko still ended up on the Island.

- Michael Giacchino is a GOD.

Peace,
Truff

Suki

01-13-06, 01:08 AM

- "Where are you?" says Mike to Compy. Then BAM "Dad?" on the screen again. They are SO being watched.

That makes so much sense! Of course they are being watched. Can't believe I didn't pick up on that.

Truff, once again I amazed by your powers of observation. You notice everything!

Tank in Texas

01-13-06, 01:09 AM

- Walt chat from bss1/Michael chat on the show: Anyone/Michael>: Are you okay? walt>: Yes. Anyone/Michael>: Are you alone? walt>: Yes. Can't talk long They're coming back soon. Anyone/Michael: Where are you? - EXACTLY LIKE BSS1!!! :D

Now here's the good part - walt's final message (and Mike DEFINITELY saw the whole thing cause he gazed at it) "You need to com...." I believe finishing this would be "You need to come and get me".

Like many, many chat rooms. I definitley believe someone connected to the show (closer than the ad agency) has read BSS1, perhaps participated. I don't think much valid information has been diseminated thusly.

When I read the "You need to com..." my reaction was that "Walt" was telling a place and/or time to Michael. The come and get me is a given!

rottenralf

01-13-06, 01:15 AM

I am not convinced Michael was being watched. The first time the computer pinged (as Locke and Eko were watching the film) the timer said 51:00. Michael kept looking at his $$$ watch to keep checking the time. We saw the timer at 47:00 which is only a few minutes away from 51:00. I think Michael expected a window of opportunity during that portion of the countdown. I think it is a window in the countdown time, not clock time, as the timer periods are 1 hr. 48 mins. each, tough to set a clock by. You are free to disagree with me, it won't hurt my feelings, and you've been wrong before.

Lab

01-13-06, 01:41 AM

I am with you ralf, either a window of time....or.....first time, whoever is on the other end was testing to see if they could get someone to respond and Micheal responded, then the second time...Micheal typed first...he attempted keystrokes at least, which could have alerted the user on the other end to his presence.....I am not convinced Micheal is being watched either.

Suki

01-13-06, 01:46 AM

Hey everyone! I'm posting solely (spelling?) because I just got some points at owa. I'm just so thrilled to finally get something.

:cloud9:

truffula

01-13-06, 01:47 AM

That's what I love about yal. I can read ralf and lab's posts about Mike being watched, and yal convinced me. I'm wrong about that one. D'Oh. ;)

Peace,
Truff

Lab

01-13-06, 02:04 AM

There are some great eyes out there, I did not see the images in the smoke last night, just rewatched tonight and even playing on super slow frame by frame I still couldn't see much more than flashes...but I believe you guys if you say images from his past are there.

Hey everyone! I'm posting solely (spelling?) because I just got some points at owa. I'm just so thrilled to finally get something.

:cloud9:

:D Good for you and your points! Suki!!!!I knew you were due after that one! ;) Hooray!:celebrate

That mean he probably knows who you are now. You can probably take your ID number out of your sig now, only if you want though. I could just as easily say leave it for a while longer just to make sure he has had time to see it. Unless he got it from an email and not the thread, in which case you might want to leave it. Did I confuse you?Cause I just confused me!;)

Penelope

01-13-06, 02:13 AM

They are there Lab5. I definitely saw an image of himself from his flashback when he shot the old man, and then I saw an image of his brother, several times. Interesting enough, one image of his brother was upside down!

Suki--way to go! What did you post about?

truffula

01-13-06, 02:17 AM

That sounds to me like you'd like to see some CAPS lab! ;)
Here ya go:

First, the old man that Young Eko killed:
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/4064/oldmaninsmoke19xt.jpg

Here's Young Eko protecting Yemi:
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/1040/youngekoandyemiinsmoke17zn.jpg

Here's Eko, but I can't tell what scene this is:
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/9827/ekoinsmoke14kg.jpg

Here's the Nigerian Guy who took Eko:
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/9421/faceinsmoke11mo.jpg

The mysterious unknown woman:
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/1042/womaninsmoke10uc.jpg

And the Crucifix:
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/7347/crossinsmoke13te.jpg

ENJOY!!!
Peace,
Truff

ILoveEko

01-13-06, 02:18 AM

Yeah, Penelope, there was a shot of Eko in Smokey. In the suit he was wearing when they crashed. It too was upside down.

Truff-
- Things seen in the smoke: The old man Young Eko shot, Young Eko and Yemi, Eko as priest? A woman, and a Crucifix
There are two different women. Yemi's church also appears in it too I believe.

Lab

01-13-06, 02:20 AM

Now that I see the caps, I see where they were and recognize "the flashes" I thought I saw....... I saw the ones linked earlier, but thought somebody had just edited them in...hahaha......Ok, I got it now.....thanks truff!

ILoveEko

01-13-06, 02:22 AM

Here's the other woman. She looks different than the younger one I posted a couple pages back.
http://lost.cubit.net/pics/2x10/ekoVsMonsterWoman.jpg

Here's the church. You can see the crucifix on top.
http://lost.cubit.net/pics/2x10/ekoVsMonsterChurch.jpg

truffula

01-13-06, 02:22 AM

Oh yeah ILE?
I have the "other" woman capped I think.
I thought it was the same one. But I messed with it so I'd have to go back and make it look like the first one again.
And the church too? Yeah, there are a few caps that I messed with that I labeled UNKNOWN cause I couldn't make anything out.

Here's Eko upside down in his suit from the crashday:
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/512/insidesmoke56rq.jpg

I didn't mess with that one.
I can't find the church though. I'm sure it's in there, I just missed it while capping I guess.

ETA - I see BOTH the church and the second woman now. I was not lookin at the right things. ;)

Peace,
Truff

aggiesean

01-13-06, 02:23 AM

The picture where you see Eko, but you didn't know what scene, Truff? It was when Yemi was shot.

Lab

01-13-06, 02:25 AM

The picture where you see Eko, but you didn't know what scene, Truff? It was when Yemi was shot.

Correct. You can see the plane behind him.:)

truffula

01-13-06, 02:29 AM

Thanks yal. I have ALOT on my mind right now.
I appreciate yal clearing that up for me ;)!!

I am currently trying to work on my post that will attempt to explain what's goin on here with the Webmaze. No clue how soon I'll finish, as I'll be popping back in here and there to post and whatnot. But I'll give yal a heads up when I'm close.

Peace,
Truff

ILoveEko

01-13-06, 02:29 AM

Yeah, and you can see him holding a body against him, and the terror and cries in his face.

yung23

01-13-06, 02:34 AM

aggiesean

01-13-06, 02:38 AM

hey truff !

I noticed what you typed earlier here about locke seeing helen..

awesome FB connection BTW !

what do you think he saw the second time ?

was it his episode again ? did he see his dad this time ?

I cant remember who's FB episode it was...

It was Exodus Part II when he saw the monster again. Personally, I think it could have been anything traumatic or bad about the mainland (himself getting paralyzed most likely), something to remind him of what it was like there and how much better he is on the island. I think that's why he ran the second time, and why the monster kept "pulling him back in," so to speak.

ETA: VA, I'm trying to write my own Hanso/Dr. C songs right now, and I can see just how hard it can be! Good job on yours!

truffula

01-13-06, 02:39 AM

The second time...lets think about that one.
What was happening before the MINDSCANNER showed up in this sequence?
I remember Exodus was multi FB, and I honestly forget (if anyone else doesn't mind checking) but perhaps we saw the FB of Locke being helped onto the plane before this incident with IT?

I'm thinking Locke saw his accident that crippled him. And I'm one to speculate that Helen was invovled somehow, perhaps in a car with him and maybe even subsequently injured or even killed?
I don't know, but I can't WAIT to see the reason behind Locke being in a wheelchair!! :D

Peace,
Truff

rottenralf

01-13-06, 02:44 AM

It is possible he saw a sign in a store window while crossing the street, froze and got hit by a bus. A sign like:

http://www.foodforum.org.uk/graphics/unitops/mspie.jpg

truffula

01-13-06, 02:47 AM

:rotfl: ralf!!!
You da MAN!!! :D
I needed something to lighten up over here - THANKS!!

Lab

01-13-06, 02:49 AM

yung, Can I ask you to Mod for a minute, when you get a chance, please?

Can you merge the Sydney Herald info thread into the Official OceanicWorldAir thread....also edit Loyalist thread to include XNA4ALL in the title.....and also we may need to consider closing Agents and Goldmembers, like the original one was closed....just cause it is all those many sites lumped together.....the info will still be there for us to look up if needed, but maybe close it, and start a new KCSP/Snowman thread....I will start the new one, if you want to change the others and close Agents.

Maybe wait a few minutes to see if anyone else wants to chime in with opinions.

But for sure at least merge that Sydney Herald thread to OceanicWorldAir thread and add XNA4ALL to Loyalist thread title....

THANKS MASTER MOD ALMIGHTY!

Anybody? Somebody? Anything to add or problem with anything I said? Anybody?

ETA: THERES MY RALF!!!!!!Hilarious! hahahahahahaha

aggiesean

01-13-06, 02:54 AM

and also we may need to consider closing Agents and Goldmembers, like the original one was closed....just cause it is all those many sites lumped together.....the info will still be there for us to look up if needed, but maybe close it, and start a new KCSP/Snowman thread....I will start the new one, if you want to change the others and close Agents.

Anybody? Somebody? Anything to add or problem with anything I said? Anybody?

Oh sure. Go ahead and close the Agents thread. I'm sure no one will mind.:p

ILoveEko

01-13-06, 02:56 AM

I don't think we should close the Agents thread, I think we should just have the GOLD part taken out. Just keep it the Agents thread or something.
"Everything Bright and Cold" :)
(Candle and snow, lol)

Lab

01-13-06, 02:57 AM

we would still be able to see it aggie, and we would replace it with a KCSP/Snowman thread. now would be a good time while they are "reorganizing" and before it picks back up again....and its getting long, and chock full of the whole webmaze mashed together. Although, you can bet I would still frequent it for research, just like I still look at the original thread that has been closed for a month. You know?

ETA: But its getting so long, ILE, and newbies wont read it all because the length will scare them off. You know?

But whatever you guys think.

aggiesean

01-13-06, 02:59 AM

we would still be able to see it aggie, and we would replace it with a KCSP/Snowman thread. now would be a good time while they are "reorganizing" and it picks back up again....and its getting long, and chock full of the whole webmaze mashed together. Although, you can bet I would still frequent it for research, just like I still look at the original thread that has been closed for a month. You know?

I understand completely, lab. Just couldn't resist.

But yeah, I think a large part in the Agents thread from the past two days has been OWA stuff, even though it's been moved to its own thread. It'll make things much clearer if it's closed.

truffula

01-13-06, 03:04 AM

Since yer askin for an opinion, here ya go:

I agree that a thread should have a "cutoff point" simply for the sake of Archiving. Then the next thread could be named the same thing but part 2 or whatever.
Essentially what I'm gettin at is I agree that it's okay to lock up Agents and start a new thread just for KCSP/Snowman. I too still read the old KCSP/OWA locked thread (actually I'm about to go there to snag a quote from Vincent) and we'll still have AGENTS thread archived here for reference whenever we want.

Excellent suggestion lab!!
Now that we have our own little forum here (I almost typed borem!) it's a good idea to get things really organized while the new eps are on and the maze is kinda quiet.

Just my 2 cents.

Peace,
Truff

ILoveEko

01-13-06, 03:10 AM

Yeah, I know what you mean. The like million pages+ are intimidating to people just signing up, lol.

truffula

01-13-06, 04:15 AM

Okay, here's the heads up I promised.
Within the next few minutes, I'm gonna make my anticipated explanation post.
I will do so in the WEBMAZE MAP sticky thread as I think there is no other thread that better deserves what I'm gonna say than the MONSTER I created.

Peace,
Truff

aggiesean

01-13-06, 04:19 AM

Sounds good to me Truff!

(crickets in the other threads as everyone waits for Truff's big post)

truffula

01-13-06, 04:28 AM

It's up yal.

ILoveEko

01-13-06, 04:30 AM

Yay, Truff.
You know I've always been on your side with this. We've discussed it a few times in PM's and I'm still on your side.
Well done, sir. :)

yung23

01-13-06, 04:30 AM

thank you truff !

I knew hanging around you and making our connection" would pay off.
You are one of the most polite people on these boards.

great work.

I'll be watching.

aggiesean

01-13-06, 04:32 AM

GOMGOMGOMGOMG

If you haven't yet read Truff's new Webmaze post, read it!!!!
:hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :faintthud :faintthud :faintthud :faintthud :faintthud :faintthud :faintthud :faintthud :faintthud :faintthud :faintthud

Oh great, now I get to sleep after seeing all that! Oh well, that's what Nyquil is for.

G'night y'all!

yung23

01-13-06, 04:37 AM

okay all.. I wanted to do it this year, during this webmaze thing, but next year for sure

TITLES WILL BE THE ADDRESS OF EACH SITE, and only that, no agents thread..

this would allow us to keep track better.

as new mazes emerge (WITH $$ BEHIND THEM!)

THEY WILL GET THEIR OWN THREAD, and we will link it from the thread it grows from..

hows those ideas for order?

rottenralf

01-13-06, 04:38 AM

Truff - I have to concur with your maze plat map. And I also think they are going to gear up for the next hiatus to keep us in Lost-Heaven until they resume regular broadcasts again. Well Said!!

rottenralf

01-13-06, 04:39 AM

Yung - What about misc. sites? Where would they go? Some may be a flash in the pan, other might grow, how do we tell unless we can discuss them?

Lab

01-13-06, 04:41 AM

Good night aggie.....sleep well, friendl!

Love and Respect!

ETA: I had to fix the name. I am a dumbass and wished ILE goodnight instead of aggie....sorry aggie, sorry ile

truffula

01-13-06, 04:44 AM

SUMMER HIATUS - those words will have absolutely NO MEANING to the Webmazer.
Can you even IMAGINE what kind of CRAZY shnit we're gonna see in the next 13 episodes???
I personally am waiting for confirmation on the "spoiler" about the upcoming Claire episode that would add ALOT to the proof of the Webmaze's legitimacy.
I'm tellin yal, the payoff was only PARTIAL so far. Wait til the end of Feb sweeps. If I'm wrong, you can feed me to the MINDSCANNER.

Peace,
Truff

yung23

01-13-06, 04:44 AM

dont you all think they should be careful not to.. distance themselves from the crowd ?

Only a couple of us FT members have been involved with this fun-ass map tptb set up as a test (cmon, who didnt suspect that?)

and the other 7000 members of this board just sat around saying WTF are they talking about, who's Einar ? Whos JOOP ?

my point is, they may isolate themselves from an audience un-willing to look for detailed answers, some members have a hard enough time with the normal postings and theories...

and on another level
this board has isolated the TV viewing audience, we know SO much more that any normal viewer..

how TF were these tests done by tptb.

nielson ratings ?

anyone see my point ?

some people only want to watch.

Lab

01-13-06, 04:45 AM

Awesome work once again my friend!

yung23

01-13-06, 04:46 AM

Yung - What about misc. sites? Where would they go? Some may be a flash in the pan, other might grow, how do we tell unless we can discuss them?

MISCELLANEOUS SITES

the first post, will be edited by me to input the new Misc site to update the list ?

IM OPEN FOR IDEAS BTW, you guys have ideas..

lets see em.

truffula

01-13-06, 04:49 AM

yung, I was gonna touch on that in my BIG post, but I decide not to.

I feel that the reason we don't see any kind of "confirmed officialness" to these sites is that they DIDN'T want to attract too much attention - yet.

Thus all the debate and skepticism. It's what they wanted.

The quote from Damon says it all - they were NOT gonna announce these new sites. It was up to the hardcore dedicated viewer to find it.

This is not something that the average viewer partook in. The team they put together was too small for what happened. We had them workin all kinds of crazy hours to keep the Maze flowing. They told me so.

I just can't WAIT to see what's in store!!! :D:D:D:D

Peace,
Truff

ILoveEko

01-13-06, 04:54 AM

I never said I was leaving, lab. :confused: aggie did though, lol.
:p

truffula

01-13-06, 04:57 AM

YAY!!! Yal are still here!! :D
That BIG post was something I really needed to get off my chest.
Now that it's done, I can relax for the rest of the night (however brief it may be) ;)

rottenralf

01-13-06, 04:58 AM

Lab

01-13-06, 05:02 AM

I never said I was leaving, lab. :confused: aggie did though, lol.
:p
sorry, was trying to catch whoever was leaving on one window, and read truffs update on another window, and reply to a pm on another window.....i know, i am a dummy...dee deee deee...

well, good night, aggie then, if he ain't already gone by now.

and yung, i like the miscellaneous thread, unless something that should have went in a main thread gets merged in there instead of the correct thread, you know?

...and just the other stuff i said earlier.....

sorrry, guys, been trying to multi-task, and obviously failing miserably....hahaha

ILoveEko

01-13-06, 05:07 AM

No biggie, lab :)
It's happened a couple times. aggie has said something and people responded like it was me. Maybe cuz his pic has Eko? :p

Lab

01-13-06, 05:09 AM

No biggie, lab :)
It's happened a couple times. aggie has said something and people responded like it was me. Maybe cuz his pic has Eko? :p

AHA!!!!!! Thats it! Thats exactly what it was! ha

ILoveEko

01-13-06, 05:15 AM

LOL @ lab :)

ILoveEko

01-13-06, 05:16 AM

yung, I think you could probably merge this with something, lol. The Webmaza sticky... something :p

Tank in Texas

01-13-06, 05:21 AM

Truf, hooray for your optimism, friend. The maze is as real as you like it to be- you get out of it what you put into it. Its all designed to keep us thinking about Lost... and keep us thinking.

Lab

01-13-06, 05:56 AM

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Congrats yung on 2000 posts!

Thanks for being a great Mod and for your awesome Maps, Theory thread, and all your other research!

truffula

01-13-06, 06:01 AM

Holy crap, I didn't even realize it!!!
MASTER Yung has hit the 2000 mark!!!
Talk about 2000 hardcore posts. This man is NO post whore.
When he speaks, you should listen. Let me give you an example.
His new Thread in T&S that I FINALLY got a chance to read over and post in today. WOW. Dude, that is some truly amazing shnit. I feel I should carve off some of my "best research" award and give it to you for this one.
I'll be keeping my eye on that for sure, and yal should too! :D

YAY FOR YUNG!!!!!!
:celebrate:celebrate:celebrate:celebrate:celebrate :celebrate

Peace,
Truff

ILoveEko

01-13-06, 06:06 AM

Congrats yung!
I also got a chance to read that thread today. It's amazing. I love it. Keep up the good work :D

rottenralf

01-13-06, 06:07 AM

congrats Yung, way to go!!

sayidsalot

01-13-06, 06:07 AM

Hey you guys - just poppin in - how's tricks? - I am gonna go read Truff's webmaze post... can I have a shot of cranberry & side of gingerale? - I am a little hung over. It was a very intense day - tommorow will bw as well - but on a lighter side, we decided to all wear pajamas!!!!

thanks fo r being so understanding. The show last night was phenomenal - Vincent is definitely in on things - maybe he is Peter Coyote??? (narrartor for "Lost: Revelations")

I know I was "high" but some of the narration was exactly things Vincent said. As I am MORE ABLE to post, after tommorow, I will elaborate.

luvyouguys!

Lab

01-13-06, 06:10 AM

Hey Ms. Carmen.....love ya! so sorry about the job. But like I said before, I am sure you will rebound, even though that doesn't help much right now.

We all still love you and are here for you!

cranberry and gingerale, coming up.......

Tank in Texas

01-13-06, 06:11 AM

thanks fo r being so understanding. The show last night was phenomenal - Vincent is definitely in on things - maybe he is Peter Coyote??? (narrartor for "Lost: Revelations")

I know I was "high" but some of the narration was exactly things Vincent said. As I am MORE ABLE to post, after tommorow, I will elaborate.

:omfg::D:D:D This Fall, on ABC...

Peter Coyote is... Vincent Madison!

Tank in Texas

01-13-06, 06:22 AM

That's enough for me tonight folks... stayed up late for Truf's message, now i'll have to drag my sorry butt in tomorrow. Thanks for an entertaining and enlightening day.

ILoveEko

01-13-06, 06:23 AM

Night Tank.
Sleep well.
Hope you have lovely dreams of gorgeous men drooling ;)

truffula

01-13-06, 06:25 AM

Me too. I'm out for the night.
Been an exhausting day to say the least.
YAY!! Tomorrow is second weekend (I consider WED 9pm to be the beginning and end of MY week ;))!!!!!!
See yal tomorrow!

G'Nite, and Peace,
Truff

ILoveEko

01-13-06, 06:28 AM

Night Truff :)

Lab

01-13-06, 06:33 AM

Night truff and tank!

I am out too.....good night ILE, Rhi, Carmen, ralf, yung...and any others....love ya!

Sleep well, friends!

See you guys sometime tomorrow!

Love and Respect!

ILoveEko

01-13-06, 06:35 AM

sleep now. The bed Night lab. :)
Have a good sleep.
I'm gonna leave soon too. Gonna go check out the OWA website threads though first.

ETA: Night guys, I'm going to bed now. Eko's calling me in my dreams, I sense it, haha.

Rhiannon

01-13-06, 06:53 AM

Sleep sounds like a good idea. I think I'll do that too. Goodnight everybody, sweet dreams.

Penelope

01-13-06, 10:35 AM

Truff, thank you so much for the insight! That's awesome! I believe you on the webmaze! I can't wait for more of it. Great job! I'm glad they realize what a dedicated LOST fan you are to share this with you!

Jeannie

01-13-06, 11:18 AM

Good morning, everyone. I think I need the coffee IV this morning!

Yung, congrats on the 2000 posts! And I like your ideas for organizing everything.

truff, I just read your post. Amazing work, and a very interesting read! You know, I never really cared whether the maze is real or not; it's been so much fun and I've learned so many things over the past few weeks. Not to mention that I've made some great new online friends here. Thanks again to all of you for welcoming me and letting me join in!

Now if I could just resolve my sign-in and log-out issues here at home, I'd be a happy camper. I've tried everything that LIW recommended - clear cookies, clear cache, reboot... and I still have to use the backdoor to come in here and I still get logged out. :(

nimrod

01-13-06, 11:50 AM

Hey guys, back up to speed. Loved every second of epi 10. In some ways I wish there were two of me. One to be around on here and one who watched the series without ever looking anything up. I felt I knew too much... Meeting you guys though is a massive consolation.

agrillo

01-13-06, 12:43 PM

Congrats Yung On 2000
:D:celebrate:clap::iloveusig:blinkie::Cheers:
Party all the time, Party all the time

agrillo

01-13-06, 12:50 PM

OMG!!! I can't believe I just hit my 300th post and didn't even notice. Well it was worth it to congratulate Yung.

And Lab!!! Sure suggest to change my thread. I thought long and hard about the perfect name for the thread. I see how you Agents roll. Now you'll see how I roll.

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Just kidding Lab.

OH and YEAH for me for 300. :Headbang: :celebrate :clap:

Jeannie

01-13-06, 12:56 PM

Woo Hoo! Congrats to Agrillo on 300 posts!!!

:celebrate

3-Putt

01-13-06, 12:59 PM

Are we calling the black smoke by the name Smokey ? (I’m going to assume so in this message.)

OK, so Smokey is either a sentient being of some kind or is the technological extension of some sentient being that is on, under or near the island. It doesn’t matter which. Now, Smokey has some agenda that we don’t fully understand yet, but the methods of its operation are more clear after this last episode.

Smokey scans the minds of people on the island and then (somehow) manipulates events in the world to bring certain people to the island that it finds in those mindscans. For example, it found Eko in the mind of a Beechcraft survivor (Goldie, the gold-toothed guy ?) and it found Jack in Desmond’s mindscan. This is why we keep seeing familiar characters in the backgrounds of these flashbacks.

The purpose of bringing these selected people to the island is still unknown.

Do you believe it would be time well spent to construct here or on another thread a “flashback tree” ?

This would be something akin to a genealogical family tree, except that rather than being a “family tree”, this will be more like a “flashback tree”. In other words, it just might be helpful to try to trace back the flashback connections all the way back to “our very own Adam and Eve”, as Locke said. That choice of words may have been a clue that “Adam and Eve” led Smokey eventually to bringing our current cast of characters to the island.

We probably don’t have enough of the puzzle pieces to tie directly back to “Adam and Eve”, but if we have the flashback tree partially built it may make it easier to watch for clues that will fill in the blanks of the tree.

(Unfortunately, I am in the middle of a move to a new city and a new job so I don’t have as much time to spend on thinking about and pursuing Lost research projects as I would like.)

VeeAyetheCPA

01-13-06, 01:15 PM

I don't think they are targeting the average viewer for the maze. My wife loves Lost, but has no interest in the maze, speculation, theories, etc. But the maze and all of the hard-core crazies that participate in it does get one thing for them...media coverage. If they keep the show in the media spotlight, they will constantly get new viewers. If mazies talk about it at the water cooler, they will get more viewers. It is easy to get out of a routine of watching a particular show, this campaign keeps you just itching for the next new show, even if it is six weeks away.

Amen to that! I feel exactly the same way. This webmaze stuff has kept me hyped throughout the hiatus. I don't think I would have been nearly as excited about the return of new episodes without it. In previous years I've always watched my other shows (CSI, etc.) in reruns, but the maze has been won out in the competition for my time and attention.

And by the way, people are still just coming to Lost. Some guy my husband works with only saw the first season over Christmas break when someone else at work loaned him the DVDs. He and his wife are now hooked. I sent them all the tapes of the season 2 episodes that I still had around and they are rushing to catch up.

VA

agrillo

01-13-06, 01:29 PM

Truff this is awesome news. I loved the Lord of th Rings and I saw a preview for Lost before it aired and I saw Dominic in the preview. Hadn't really heard much about Lost, but I tuned in to check it out. Now look at me. I'm a Lost junkie. Just think I might have missed a great show and all the mebmaze fun if I'd never seen Dominic in the preview. But most importantly I woulda missed out on meeting you, ILE, Lab, Aggie, Ralf, Bighead and all my lovely ladies in the harem. Not to mention everyone else who's names aren't popping into my head right now. Can't wait till Matter does a gig and maybe make some face to faces. Roadtrip people!!!

Keep up the great work Master Jedi of the Webmaze.

Lab

01-13-06, 01:56 PM

agrillo, good morning harem master! don't get mad, guy...i just wanted XNA4ALL aded to title, so that when the game picks up we dont have new posters creating new threads for it, when it can be covered in your loyalist thread......love ya guy, sorry, didn't mean disrespect.. Congrats on 300 posts!

3-putt.....that is a Great theory/idea, friend. I like it!

GOOD MORNING ALL!

3-Putt

01-13-06, 02:00 PM

:DeadHorse: (beating a dead horse)

I just can't get my mind to not think that there is some kind of alien or aliens behind all of the mysteries of Lost.

The "other-worldliness" of Smokey has brought my mind back to this.

Even though Damon Lindelof said in this interview (linked below) that "There are no spaceships", I have never seen it said that "there are no aliens". Aliens do not have to travel in spaceships (I refer you to "Stargate", the movie and series).

(second article, second paragraph)
http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue406/news.html

(Has anyone else seen a quote from a producer saying "no aliens" ? Please please post a link so that I can get this out of my mind.)

I may be stuck on this idea because the first episode of Lost I ever saw reminded me of a science fiction novel I read many years ago.

When "Lost" premiered last year, it immediately hit me...Kurt Vonnegutt's "Sirens of Titan".

At the end of "Sirens of Titan", readers discover
that, on Titan (one of Saturn's moons ) there is an alien who has
been waiting 200,000 years for a spare part for his grounded
spacecraft.

This alien does not have the raw materials or technology at hand to build the needed spare part, but he does have the ability to remotely influence (with his mind) the evolution and choices of humankind. And this alien is very patient.

Are the "Lost" survivors (Flight 815, Danielle, Desmond, the
"Others") all necessary to the construction of a needed "spare part" of some kind so that our patient lonely alien can return home ?

mikashuman

01-13-06, 03:16 PM

Good Morning ALL!! I need a coffee IV as well. I feel like the white rabbit running around saying "I'm late". Playing major catch up this morning.

Yung, Yay for 2000! I agree with Truff....when you post it is because you have something important to say!

Agrillo, Congrats on 300!!!

Truff! Oh master! What an incredible post!

Jeannie, I too still have to use the back door to get in and I continuously get logged off! :( But at least we can get in!! I also agree with your post....We have made some great friends here haven't we??

Off to read some more and see if I can get up to speed!

keepthefaith

01-13-06, 03:27 PM

Awsome Truff, just awsome:worshippy

aggiesean

01-13-06, 03:32 PM

Good morning y'all!

Eko mochas are in limited supply for the rest of the week!

And don't worry about confusing me and ILE, lab, for too much longer, I'll change my avatar on Sunday.

I'll pop in here every now and then for a few hours...I have ACTUAL work to do today! Thanks boss!

ETA: Congrats Agrillo!

ILoveEko

01-13-06, 03:32 PM

Congrats on 300 agrillo!
Putt, I'm not with you on the alien thing, lol. I'm not big on Sci-Fi, this show is as close to Sci-Fi as I've ever watched I think.
But I thought that Damon or JJ or someone once said everything on the island can be scientifically explained, I might be wrong, but yeah.

ETA: Limited? Well, can you make sure there's enough for me? :p

aggiesean

01-13-06, 03:34 PM

ETA: Limited? Well, can you make sure there's enough for me? :p

Of course ILE! (slides one down the bar) Remember, only available through Saturday though, so get 'em while they're in stock!

Lab

01-13-06, 03:35 PM

Glad your back at work, aggie! Man, don't sweat that avatar...thats my dumb fault for rushing, my bad, man.....have a good day at work.....I am at work as well, but slower today than the rest of the week, so I am having more time to check in here now and then.

Good Morning, ILE

keepthefaith

01-13-06, 03:54 PM

Morning all! Congrats Agrillo. Wow, I just read truff's webmaze post. Wow. Got meeting now, will be back later to catch up. Have fun everyone:)

sayidsalot

01-13-06, 03:54 PM

Hey You Guys - I would like a Marvin Mocha if possible - with a Claire Eclaire

Gotta go in & pack it up today, that I try to book any remaining air I have to use - wish me LUCK ! - I probably won't be around much today - but don't worry, soon I will be

ALL YOURS!

luvyouguysluvyouguysloveyouguys!

Carmen

ILoveEko

01-13-06, 03:56 PM

Mornin' lab :)
aggie, thanks for the Eko Mocha.
Hey Carmen! Good luck today :)

aggiesean

01-13-06, 04:04 PM

raiderfan43

01-13-06, 04:08 PM

OK guys, I am sure this has been discussed to death, but I cant find it anywhere, so someone point me in the right direction please...Since Sawyer isnt his real name, and Hurley checked all the passengers on the manifest, wouldnt the name 'Sawyer' not have been there? He would have had his name on there as his real name as it appears on his passport..I know this is probably not the right forum for it, but it just hit me last night as I was lookin at this board

aggiesean

01-13-06, 04:16 PM

supermodel

01-13-06, 04:21 PM

Morning all!

I forget who posted this:
Super--was Daniel Dae Kim on Angel as a bad guy? I have all the seasons if you know which one he was in, I didn't realize he was on that show. Saw him 24 though!

Yes, DDK was bad on Angel. He played Gavin Park, a lawyer at Wolfram & Hart. became a zombie and eventually decapitated by Gunn. He was on a total of about 12 episodes in S2 - S4. Everything you want to know about Gavin is here:

http://www.danieldaekim.org/gavin.html

Edited to add:
I forgot to mention this, did you guys see the ratings from Wednesday? Lost won both hours handily. "The 23rd Psalm" got 11.9/18. The second number means 18% of all televisions in use at the time were tuned to Lost. Not bad!

raiderfan43

01-13-06, 04:21 PM

Just thought it odd that it has never been brought up, Hurley still calls him Sawyer, and you would think that with all the crap he takes from Sawyer from time to time, and all the nicknames, he would pop off and call him by his real name,or let it slip to Jack and the others that Sawyer isnt his real name

Penelope

01-13-06, 04:35 PM

Morning all!

I forget who posted this:

Yes, DDK was bad on Angel. He played Gavin Park, a lawyer at Wolfram & Hart. became a zombie and eventually decapitated by Gunn. He was on a total of about 12 episodes in S2 - S4. Everything you want to know about Gavin is here:

http://www.danieldaekim.org/gavin.html (http://www.danieldaekim.org/gavin.html)

That was me Super, thanks I'll check him out, I vaguely recall that storyline now! Although I still disagree--Sawyer is the finest of the 'island men!'

aggiesean

01-13-06, 04:40 PM

We still love you too lab!

I responded to your other thread post here since I agree, clutter is what the BBR is for. :D

supermodel

01-13-06, 04:43 PM

aggie, last week I caught Daniel on an old Charmed rerun. Do you remember when he was the evil samurai-type guy? The mustache and goatee were very bad...

Lab

01-13-06, 04:43 PM

thanks aggie for having my back!:D

Love ya'll!

And I added those new flavors of coffee you guys mentioned to the Menu! I am still accepting modifications/ requests for the Menu if anybody else has any.

Jeannie

01-13-06, 04:47 PM

Actually I agree as well about the clutter, lab. Though I was tempted to make a post there that said "Made you look, lab!" :p

And yes, we love you too!

Lab

01-13-06, 04:52 PM

(sighs with contentment)

aw, Jeannie, thanks!

Love ya!

so if Jin played a zombie before, do you guys think maybe thats where TPTB came up with that fake Zombie script idea on OceanicFlight815.com?

aggiesean

01-13-06, 05:03 PM

aggie, last week I caught Daniel on an old Charmed rerun. Do you remember when he was the evil samurai-type guy? The mustache and goatee were very bad...

That sounds very familiar...I may have seen that one. And the bad goatee.

A few weeks ago they showed a CSI rerun with Josh Holloway on it...I will not be able to see him as anyone other than "Sawyer" for a long time. Hell, I'm just now able to see Charlie and not tell him to go back to the shire.

supermodel

01-13-06, 05:07 PM

OK, I just posted this on the OWA thread but I am very excited so you guys get to see it again. I made Gold status this week! Yay! :bump:

Lab

01-13-06, 05:11 PM

And I posted a reply there, but will here as well!

Congrats, supermodel on Gold Status Good for you!

agrillo

01-13-06, 05:17 PM

No hard feelings Lab. Just having some fun. It was a good idea.

OK guys, I am sure this has been discussed to death, but I cant find it anywhere, so someone point me in the right direction please...Since Sawyer isnt his real name, and Hurley checked all the passengers on the manifest, wouldnt the name 'Sawyer' not have been there? He would have had his name on there as his real name as it appears on his passport..I know this is probably not the right forum for it, but it just hit me last night as I was lookin at this board
I thought about this too at one point, but I think it was implied that he changed his name legaly. Or TPTB aren't as smart as us. Which is a very good possibility.

On that thought. The more that happens with the webmaze the more I really believe that we are part of the butterfly effect. I don't think TPTB could ever have imagined the craze that Lost and the webmaze have produced. I believe as Damon said there was something in the works, but I believe because of groups such as ourselves it has become something never originally imagined. I truly believe we are part of the creative process. And when Lost finally ends I think it will go down something like this:
Credits roll, screen goes black and then ....

Special Thanks To
http://www.geocities.com/revv0/dadwalt7uu.jpgTRUFFULA
and his merry band of Webmazers

truffula

01-13-06, 05:26 PM

Hey everyone! :D

agrillo that would indeed be awesome!! I'm thinkin more towards a reference to the Lorax or maybe Locke will tell a story about the truffula trees or something WILD like that to give me a heart attack. ;)
Not that I think that could EVER happen, but it would make my head explode for sure!

btw - thanks alot for all the kinds words regarding the post I made in the Map thread last night. I really appreciate it.

Gonna go check out the other threads...see yal later!

Peace,
Truff

nimrod

01-13-06, 05:34 PM

LOL Agrillo - that would be cool! I hope you're gonna write a song about all this Truff.

Well done everybody on reaching their milestones in postings. Am working here so haven't been able to read up on exactly who, so...catchall.

agrillo

01-13-06, 05:47 PM

Just found something interesting in the general discusion. After the commercial just before Eko asks Charlie if he saw it. If you have Tivo or DVR start frame by frame at 41:03. Right between Eko's shoulder and Charlie there is a person. It then moves to the left and out of view behind Eko's shoulder. Looks like a person with dark hair. Either another "Other" hiding like Baldie in "Abandoned" or a crew who forgot to get out of the shot.

ILoveEko

01-13-06, 05:51 PM

Are there any screenshots of that, agrillo?

agrillo

01-13-06, 05:52 PM

No sorry ILE I'm still Downloading the episode. As soon as I have pics I will post them unless someone else sees it too and does it first.

ILoveEko

01-13-06, 05:59 PM

Thanks. :)

Lab

01-13-06, 06:02 PM

agrillo, hey, can you forward me the download via email when you get it, or else give me your source, i have it on vcr tape and i want to be able to get clearer stills.....ooooooh, i didnt see that, gonna go watch for it at lunch or after work.....cool!

supermodel

01-13-06, 06:31 PM

OK, so I can't be the only one who always thinks of truffula when they see compy type "Dad?"

Nimrod, check this out. Agrillo has a harem, but you have Nimrod Nation!

Sundance Channel has ordered an original 8-part doc series called Nimrod Nation, all about the small town of Watersmeet, Michigan, and its residents' obsession with its local basketball team, the Nimrods.

SanityAmongstChaos

01-13-06, 07:22 PM

Nicely presented, Truff! You really have done an amazing amount of research with this, along with a an impressive amount of human networking. It's clear that the webmazers picked the right person to open up to, regardless of how closely they are affiliated with ABC or Lost.

I have a question about the emails you got. I don't want to know what was in them (you're right to keep that to yourself, I bet) or the addresses they came from. Can you say what mail server they came from though? Was it a free account like yahoo or gmail, or one related to the domain of one of the maze sites? Maybe even a Disney or Big Spaceship domain? That could help establish even more legitimacy. And if you don't feel comfortable giving out the domain, at least say if both emails (Doc and Walt) came from the same domain, or even the same address.

As has been said often before, the maze is fun regardless of its "realness", but of course everyone wants to know as much about it as possible.

WASTE

01-13-06, 07:23 PM

Nice post, Truff!

I did some Google research into the "Anna Donaldson" Walt to see if there was an employee with that name at BSS. I didn't find anything, but when I tried "anna donaldson abc" I found this:

(something that has to do with graduates in 2003)
Anna Donaldson is pursuing graduate studies in Harvard. She has secured an internship with ABC Channel 5 of Boston, with the "News at Noon" and "5:00 News" programs, and has been named a Rotary Scholar.

http://www.bsc.edu/communications/southern/fall03/pages/pg61.pdf

Just thought it was a little interesting. :D.

Lostnascarfan

01-13-06, 07:26 PM

Truffula,
Congrads on such GREAT work!!:Cheers:
Who knows maybe we'll see your name in the credits soon.:Headbang:

ALL HAIL TRUFF!!

TheGuinea_Pig

01-13-06, 08:34 PM

A little late but congrats on the upgrade to Gold super... I know I still owe Vinnie a new email and I should probably send it to him this weekend before he revokes my membership. :)

rottenralf

01-13-06, 09:27 PM

Truff the Magic Mazer

Truff, the magic mazer lived by the sea
And frolicked in the Island mist in a land called Crapho-lee,
Little Vinnie Mad'son loved that rascal puff,
And brought him clues and steganophy and other fancy stuff. Oh,

Truff, the magic mazer lived by the sea
And frolicked in the Island mist in a land called Crapho-lee.
Truff, the magic mazer lived by the sea
And frolicked in the Island mist in a land called Crapho-lee.

Together they would travel on a raft with billowed sail
Vinnie kept a lookout, perched on Truff's giant tale,
TV king and writers would bow whene'er they came,
Mining ships would lower their flag when Truff roared out his name. Oh,

Truff, the magic mazer lived by the sea
And frolicked in the Island mist in a place called Crapho-lee
Truff, the magic mazer lived by the sea
And frolicked inthe Island mist in a place called Crapho-lee.

A mazer lives forever but not so little boys
Airplane tails and web rings make for other toys.
One grey day it happened, Vinnie Mad'son came no more
And Truff that mighty mazer, he ceased his fearless tour.
His head bent in sorrow, web trails fell like rain
Truff no longer went to play along the Lostie lane.
Without his life-long friend, Truff could not be brave,
So Truff that mighty mazer sadly slipped into the caves. Oh,

Truff the magic mazer lived by the sea
And frolicked in the Island mist in a land called Crapho-lee
Truff the magic mazer lived by the sea
And Frolicked in the Island mist in a land called Crap-ho-lee.

ILoveEko

01-13-06, 09:31 PM

Haha, that's a good one, Ralf.
I want a song :( *goes and pouts*
Just kidding :p

Lab

01-13-06, 09:33 PM

HA! Thats awesome, Ralf! HAHAHA

THE MAGIC MAZER......CRAPHO-LEE....HA!

Hilarious!

mikashuman

01-13-06, 09:34 PM

Ralf, that is most excellent! You talented mazer you!

aggiesean

01-13-06, 10:01 PM

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
That's was awesome Ralf!

See what you started now VA?:p

SanityAmongstChaos

01-13-06, 10:02 PM

That's really funny, Ralf. My two-year old loves Puff. We have a copy of the Puff video (plus two more I'd never heard of until a few months ago), so I'm very familiar with that song.

Does that make me and the other skeptics Living Sneezes?

SanityAmongstChaos

01-13-06, 10:08 PM

What's going on with the agents thread? It says it's been updated since the last time I read it and says ILE made the last post, but when I click on the last page link, the last one I see is Ralf's post #3290. And when I go back to the forum index, the agent thread still shows as updated.

Don't tell me Alvar has gathered up his courage and sabotaged the agents' thread...

aggiesean

01-13-06, 10:14 PM

That is not the work of Alvar. He would have told me. I'm thinking the new forum server is :censored: up again, and manifesting itself in weird ways.

truffula

01-13-06, 10:15 PM

Ralf - that is FANTASTIC!!! :rotfl:

Guess what folks......

I got another email from the bss1 people. :D
They're watching us again. ;)
Gonna go head over to the bss1 thread to post it.
It's some GOOD stuff!!

Peace,
Truff

supermodel

01-13-06, 10:15 PM

YEAH! It's 5 pm, the boss is gone. Let happy hour begin!

:drinky: :drinky: :drinky: :drinky:

aggiesean

01-13-06, 10:17 PM

YEAH! It's 5 pm, the boss is gone. Let happy hour begin!

:drinky: :drinky: :drinky: :drinky:

:yeah:
I managed to leave early today. I get a call an hour later from an officemate saying my boss was looking for me, wanting to borrow my laptop. Luckily I left...it might be difficult to explain the "XNA4ALL" background to someone who's never even heard of Lost.

Jeannie

01-13-06, 10:18 PM

I'm seeing the same thing, Sanity. :confused:

eta: Forgot to say, great job on the Truff song, ralf!

Lab

01-13-06, 10:20 PM

Dont worry sanity...happening to me too...Im sure its what aggie said...

Alright all, I see the drinking has begun, I am on my way out the door from work now, see you all in about 45 minutes from home!

IT'S FRIDAY!

supermodel

01-13-06, 10:24 PM

Wasn't there talk earlier today about closing that thread since it's over 3,000 posts and getting confusing? Someone suggested starting a new one just for KCSP, i.e., deleting the "Gold members" part of the title since we already have a pretty well developed OWA thread. And then I think yung posted something somewhere...

ILoveEko

01-13-06, 10:29 PM

lab and Truff, I got your PM's. I need to clear my inbox, nearly full, so I didn't reply to you there :)
Thanks for the email addy Truff, and lab, no worries :p Glad you feel better about it :)

oceanic_lisa

01-13-06, 10:33 PM

aggiesean

01-13-06, 10:36 PM

grumblegrumblegrumble *stuck at the office* grumblegrumblegrumble *on call* grumblegrumblegrumble *eight calls in the past hour and 45 minutes* grumblegrumblegrumble *other team I'm paging for assistance won't call me back* grumblegrumblegrumble *was SUPPOSED to leave at 4pm EST* grumblegrumblegrumble

:mad:

Don't be surprised if a covert team of trained monkeys breaks in and rescues you. They are working for the great Alvar.

I'm sorry you're stuck oceanic!

oceanic_lisa

01-13-06, 10:44 PM

Don't be surprised if a covert team of trained monkeys breaks in and rescues you. They are working for the great Alvar.

I'm sorry you're stuck oceanic!
Thanks aggie. Team finally called me back, thank goodness!! Now all I have to do is document this one maintenance item and I'm outta here... if only I could have the monkeys man the pager for me all weekend!!

rottenralf

01-13-06, 11:19 PM

What happens when you don't push the button:

http://www.onentofl.com/sitebuilder/images/pushthebutton-600x420.png

Lab

01-13-06, 11:25 PM

YES! IT IS THE WEEKEND!

Wasn't there talk earlier today about closing that thread since it's over 3,000 posts and getting confusing? Someone suggested starting a new one just for KCSP, i.e., deleting the "Gold members" part of the title since we already have a pretty well developed OWA thread. And then I think yung posted something somewhere...

that was me supermodel, and if/when yung closes it, I will start a new one....

lisa...me and aggie and ralf are bringing the monkeys to get you...sit tight!

truff, agrillo, ILE- thanks for the info/PM's

ETA: Haha! I knew ralf would have a good one! (below)

rottenralf

01-13-06, 11:29 PM

And we found someone to handle the pager for you as well.

http://www.onentofl.com/sitebuilder/images/cat-392x255.png

oceanic_lisa

01-13-06, 11:35 PM

LOL, thanks guys. ralf, I don't know where you come up with the pics but they always crack me up!!

Unfortunately, I got three more calls in the process of trying to wrap up my last one... I am SO not liking my job right now...

Think when I get home (if the pager doesn't keep going off, LOL) I may just have to rewatch some of Season One... ahhhhhh, happy thoughts.

truffula

01-13-06, 11:50 PM

Well, I've got some good news and I've got some bad news.

First the good news - it's very likely that the Webmaze may spring into life again around or after the 25th of Jan. But just briefly.

Now the bad news - the reason why I think that about the Maze is that I just read in GD that LOST is gonna be a RERUN on Feb 1! BOOOO!! :(

Just wanted to give yal the heads up.
Peace,
Truff

Penelope

01-14-06, 12:02 AM

aggiesean

01-14-06, 12:05 AM

HAPPY WEEKEND LAB5! (thank you) :goodvibes And everyone else, have a great one too!

Truff--isn't it great though that when our favorite show goes into rerun season, we still are entertained by it? That's my glass half-full statement on rerun season. I admit, I'm surprised, I thought February was may sweeps??

Sweeps usually start on a Sunday, I think, so it may not start until Feb. 5.

Does anyone know if Lost is showing new shows during the Olympics (Feb. 10-28)? Usually programs try not to compete with Olympic coverage on other networks, but I'm not sure what ABC is doing there.

Jeannie

01-14-06, 12:05 AM

I'm pretty sure that sweeps officially starts on Thursday the second. If they ran a new episode on the first, it wouldn't count towards the sweeps weeks, so they're probably saving the new ones.

And Penelope, I like your glass half full attitude! :)

ETA: You could be right about Sunday, aggie. I know it always ends on Sunday, but I thought it started on Thursday. Either way, I'm sure that Wednesday night is out. And I can't believe they wouldn't show new episodes during Sweeps, even though it is the Olympics. That would be like handing NBC the whole sweeps month!

oceanic_lisa

01-14-06, 12:09 AM

Now the bad news - the reason why I think that about the Maze is that I just read in GD that LOST is gonna be a RERUN on Feb 1! BOOOO!! :(
yeah, Truff, I think that's right... read this in one of the VIP's forums over at the 'lage:

Air dates are always subject to change, but here is what I know as of today:
210 - tonight
211 - 1/18/06
212 - 1/25/06
213 - 2/08/06
214 - 2/15/06
215 - 2/22/06
216 - 3/22/06
217 - 3/29/06
218 - 4/05/06
219 - 4/26/06
220 - 5/03/06
221 - 5/10/06
222 - 5/17/06
223 - 5/24/06

ETA: Holy borkfish, a month off between 215 and 216?? Maybe something MAJOR will go down in the Webmaze then!!

Ok, I'm leaving my office now... in three, two, one... see ya later folks!

supermodel

01-14-06, 12:15 AM

According to Nielsen Media, February sweeps is officially February 2 - March 1, 2006. Although each household only reports for a single week, it takes Nielsen an entire month to "sweep" across all 210 television markets, from East to West.

truffula

01-14-06, 12:17 AM

Thanks for posting those dates lisa! ;)
Can anyone else say cliffhanger at the end of Feb sweeps?
As far as I know the official episode titles and synopsis haven't been released by ABC yet for any of the sweeps episodes. So who knows what kind of crazy ass shnit we're gonna see next month?!?!? :D

Peace,
Truff

Lab

01-14-06, 12:28 AM

Wheres agrillo? I want to know about those caps or the "person between Charlie and Eko" he was talking about earlier. I don't see anyone. Did anybody else see it?

Lisa.....thanks for the dates!

Thanks for the bad news, Truff....hahaha.....although after 6 weeks, 1 week won't be too bad. Yep, we always got the Maze.

Hey Penelope! Love ya!

nimrod

01-14-06, 12:33 AM

Lies and betrayals, fruit covered nails, Eeeeeeelectricity and lust!!!!!!

Bakc from night out in high spirits as you would expect. The chat still down, disappointed.

nimrod

01-14-06, 12:40 AM

Damn. At this very moment, aggie is on 666 posts, there's definitely a link to Revelation there.

truffula

01-14-06, 12:42 AM

Hey nim! :D
Check out the stuff I posted in bss1 today. You'll dig it.

I'm headed off to band practice. See yal later for sure!

Peace,
Truff

Penelope

01-14-06, 12:43 AM

Love ya too Lab5! We are watching old epis of the Sopranos right now...wish it was LOST episodes....more wine please, more wine.:drinky:

And if anyone thinks a creative posting thread is a good idea (we seem too have some budding lyricists and writers amongst us) I say we start one. I'd love the venue to post those lines of dialogue that I just wish our castaways would say... Supermodel, I know you get me!

nimrod

01-14-06, 12:44 AM

Ta truff am goin straight there now.

supermodel

01-14-06, 12:48 AM

Penelope

01-14-06, 12:51 AM

Sounds good Penelope, I'm sure we've got a million of 'em. I've never started a thread before, but it can't be hard. People seem to be starting a lot of duplicate threads lately.

We'll call it "Conversations you'll never hear on Craphole Island"? Unless y'all have something better?

Let's call it that, I love the Craphole Island description! You start it, I'll post immediately. As a literary type, I'm dying to just vent my annoyances with the utter lack of communication on the island!!!

supermodel

01-14-06, 12:53 AM

Where do we want it, Penelope? Id love to keep it here in our home in Spin Off Discussion, but perhaps it really belongs in General Discussion. Of course, if I do it wrong yung will move it anyway, right?

Lab

01-14-06, 12:58 AM

There are already threads like that in General Discussion, girls...you should either post the creative posting there in those threads, or here in the Boom Boom Room, or if your gonna start a new thread here, make sure it has something to do with a Webmaze or Spinoff in title, and contains at least some posts involving webmaze (i.e XNA and Candle songs), otherwise, yes, it may be moved or merged into Lostaways or General Discussion. I know yung has not always been happy with some of the threads created over here. Just my thoughts. Again, just advising from seeing it happen before. No offense intended! Promise! Love ya!

ETA: added a little to body of text, and also to sound a little friendlier...hehe..love ya!

Penelope

01-14-06, 12:58 AM

I don't know you and I are both 'newer' peeps to this site. Does anyone have some insight for us? That way we'd have a 'literary' board for those creative moments we all may have...

Lab

01-14-06, 01:03 AM

OK, in celebration of the weekend....Swan Smoothees are on the House all night, with 2 for 1 specials on all Beer until Midnight!

Also, Chef Bighead and I just spoke on the phone.....the Chef has sent a double batch of Goodwins Roasted Choked Chicken Surprise w/ Coconut Milk Sauce...he put the Monkeys to work on some serious overtime last night and was also able to mix up a nice batch of Jerked Pulled Polar Bear....Its very tasty, make sure to try some!

(And for any not familiar with the menu, please check the first post in the Thread!)

Penelope

01-14-06, 01:10 AM

Supermodel, and everyone, if you are feeling creative and don't want to bog down the BBR with your literay skillings (that's not a word, sorry), check out the new thread I made in General Discussion: "Conversations Never Heard on Craphole Island". Okay, I'm off to order more drinks from the menu...Lab5, you look set to go!

ILoveEko

01-14-06, 01:11 AM

Mmm. Swan Smoothee. What flavors?

Penelope

01-14-06, 01:17 AM

We need to add some wine to the drink list: Black Stallion Vineyards for the label perhaps?

Lab

01-14-06, 01:20 AM

Mmm. Swan Smoothee. What flavors?

tonight, its Chocolate and Vanilla Swirl Cake.....

...and I will add that right now, Penelope! Just for you!

:drinky:

supermodel

01-14-06, 01:20 AM

Oh crap, Penelope, I just started the same thread here in spin off. Ack! See, this is why I fear new things :) How do I delete it? I guess I need a mod...? I don't even know how to email them.

Penelope

01-14-06, 01:23 AM

Supermodel, it'll get merged, one of ours into the other. Don't worry! I told Yung about it! LOL

supermodel

01-14-06, 01:25 AM

10-4, Penelope. See, this is what happens when I don't drink enough alcohol. Lab, can you put a floater on my smoothie?

oceanic_lisa

01-14-06, 01:29 AM

Home at last!! Can I get an aaaaaaaamen??

I'll have some of that Black Stallion wine, Penelope. Have you tried their Merlot? It's dark, shiny and leaves a light "hay" aftertaste...:Cheers:

Lab

01-14-06, 01:29 AM

...what is Black Stallion Vineyards,,,,red wine, white wine, what?

Supermodel, just rename your thread...include something about webmaze in title, for example Webmaze fiction, songs, and things you'll never hear on Craphole Island":

Or something like that or to that effect, you know? Ralf, VeeAye, Aggie, agrillo, etc would love that thread here, so leave it, just include webmaze reference in title.

And Penelope, the other one you started is fine, you are already getting replies, it will either run itself from here on, or be merged by a mod into something else.

Either way, your both fine!

ILoveEko

01-14-06, 01:30 AM

lab, slide me a smoothee?
Thanks, man.

Penelope

01-14-06, 01:31 AM

Home at last!! Can I get an aaaaaaaamen??

I'll have some of that Black Stallion wine, Penelope. Have you tried their Merlot? It's dark, shiny and leaves a light "hay" aftertaste...:Cheers:

I'm having some of it right now. The Pinot Grigio is quite sassy, has a real 'kick' to it...! Glad you made it home finally! I need the vino with the new kitten running about (and the Sopranos epis on reruns...Italiano!)

supermodel

01-14-06, 01:33 AM

just rename your thread

You can do that? How? I can't figure it out.

Lab

01-14-06, 01:38 AM

lisa, heres a nice glass of Black Stallion, and a pair of slippers! Welcome home!

ILE.....here it comes baby girl! (slides frosty Smoothee down bar)

supermodel.....1 Smoothee, 1 Floater comin right up!

Lab

01-14-06, 01:40 AM

OK, super, go to the first post you made for the thread, then click edit post, then go to advanced, then you can rename it if you like......I hope that makes sense...I think you can figure it out, but let me know if you can't...

oceanic_lisa

01-14-06, 01:47 AM

...what is Black Stallion Vineyards,,,,red wine, white wine, what?
Actually, both; they have quite a setup there! The tasting room is a little sparse though, looks more like a bunker than a fancy winery... :confused:

Lab

01-14-06, 01:51 AM

Actually, both; they have quite a setup there! The tasting room is a little sparse though, looks more like a bunker than a fancy winery... :confused:

Maybe its Dharma Station 12 Wine Tasting Studies :rolleyez:

supermodel

01-14-06, 01:52 AM

OK, creative thread expanded and renamed. Thanks lab 5. For now it is here:

http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12923

but yung may move it when he merges them.

oceanic_lisa

01-14-06, 01:53 AM

Maybe its Dharma Station 12 Wine Tasting Studies :rolleyez:
:drinky:
SIGN ME UP!!! I would give my left arm to be a part of that.

*ummmm.... never mind*

Post whoring 'cuz I'm almost at 300!!!

Lab

01-14-06, 01:59 AM

looks good super......only it cutoff the on Craphole Island part, I don't know if its possible to shorten enough to fit, unless you shorten that middle phrase somehow....either way you should be OK, the webmaze reference should keep it safe where it is. I don't think it will get merged away anywhere. I had a couple of good ones for that thread a while back, but am completely blank right now. its a great idea, and I am sure I will have one to add eventually...

....Ok your Smoothees ready, just came out of the blender.... (adds floater, slides to supermodel)

Love and Respect!
Lab

ETA: LOL at lisa...... this weekend for sure, maybe even tonight!

I will be your partner in the hatch lisa, we will take turns getting soused up every 108 minutes.....probably won't last long, hahaha