Official Marvincandle.com Discussion Thread

[truffula]

Wait, well, I'm wary of mentioning any of this.....
Lars may be attempting to start manipulationg us. His site MAY have changed.
The links are really small, the";" and ",". Check those. But remember DO NOT believe his LIES.
It may just be the stuff Drabauer was talking about a few days ago though.
Gonna explore a little.
More to come.

Peace,
Truff

ETA - I'm currently working on a very large post about the EVIL www.marvincandle.com, it should be very informative once complete.

[truffula]

Lets try to figure out how Lars is gonna try to manipulate us.
The best defense against him is gonna be how much we can figure out about him and his site before it's too late.

So, like the webmaze, I'm gonna walk thru the whole process here.

We begin at www.marvincandle.com; (as of today this is what appears) Two backwards messages, one from "Marvin Candle", the other unsigned (but we all know its from Lars Navaho). In the source code for the main page there is this: http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/ which is a mirror of the main page as far as I can tell. Actually, all I think it does is show the change in web address in your browser instead of always saying marvincandle.com. So lets use this one and make note of the addresses. Like I said, the links are small. On the first line of code underneath "Candle's" message we get the first link; it's located here: #x72; (it's the ";"). This link opens up an almost identical page, except Lars' message is now reversed and he has signed it. The page (although browser will still say marvincandle.com unless you use the source code link from the main page) is actually http://195.3566308/quackmcduck/abc/lost and there is more here than on the main page.
There is another section of mushed together random letters and numbers below the original code. And occassionally some words flash in Red in the lower left corner really fast. BACK, shannon, Boone, social, CRISIS, fail, 108, Locke, DEAD, kill, alive, all, clone, spell, box, trap (in no particular order). The words reload after roughly 30 seconds.
There are links galore on this page. Lets name the locations first, then we'll discuss where they go.
Line One: about halfway across, the "8" (4, 8, F,), the "7" in 17 (10, 17, 2A).
Line Two: the ";" in #913; (#920; #913; #931).
Line Four: about 2/3 across, the "108" (006F, 108, 10), the "," after 5D and 9A (10, 5D, 11 and 51, 9A, 23).
Line Five: the "," after 2A (65, 2A, 64), the "3" in 73 (65, 73, 73 - the first one); the "," after 74 (69, 74, 4), the "#" and the second "1" in #110 (#85; #110; #105). Line Six: the second "1" in #114 (#101; #114; #115) and the ";" after #115 (#114; #115; #105), the "0" in #105 (#115; #105; #116), the ";" after #116 (#105; #116; #121), the "3" in #32 (#121; #32; #111), the ";" after #77 (#32; #77; #105), the "#" in #104 (#99; #104; #105), and the "#" in #103 (#105; #103; end of line).
Line seven: the "3" in 2*3*7, the "x" in x72 (x61; x72; x76), and the "," after 131 (217. 131, 62).
Line eight: the first "3" in the line in 39 (startline, 39, N), the "," after 16 (N, 16, 32), the "," after 4E (C5, 4E, 47), the "," after 61 (63, 61, 72), the "6" in 6F (72, 6F, 74), all the "," in the phrase 74, 73, di, 9f, then the standalone "f" (9f, f, tr).
Line nine: the "," after 9 (23, 9, 12), the standalone "1" (12, 1, 12), and the "," after 12 and 9 (12, 4, 9, 5).
Line eleven: phrase one, the second "a" (75aa68).

Damn, that's alot of links.

In the source code for this page, are the web addresses where these links resolve to:
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/arrows.jpg
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x/speedymagneticdireness.bmp
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/z/tlaw.mp3
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/locke/#3.2
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/108.jpg
http://www.oceanicflight815.com
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/z/dHaRmA.mp3
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/pam.jpg
http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/alam.jpg
http://www.cryonet.org
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/onekra.jpg
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x/onekra.jpg
http://www.fly-oceanic.com/seatingchart.htm
http://web.dmi.dk/fsweb/projects/oersted/mission/objectives.html
http://www.destinationnarvik.com/bildearkiv_nyhet/Narvikb031.jpg
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/cryopreservation
http://abc.go.com/fsp/index.html
http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/podcasts.html
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/monddes.jpg
http://www.futurescience.com/contents.html
http://www.thehansofoundation.org/lep.html
http://keithlynch.net/les
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/4815162342.jpg
http://www.answers.com/topic/stanford-prison-experiment
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/agamess.jpg
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/z/distresssignal.mid
http://www.alcor.org/sciencefaq.htm
http://www.dr.dk/Videnskab/Harddisken/Programmer/2004/03/nedfrysning.htm http://nobelprize.org/physics/laureates/1970/alfven-bio.html
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/bscyltooiendjaeitaecynsoceaaakiewjnomairyllrwhlhre uacrnnheesanicaluhkslk.html
http://www.lotto.ie/
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/z/it.mid
http://481.51.623.42/" target="_blank"
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/y/namaste.gif

As well as some cryptic stuff:
I ECT ON REC U O T L bad loss UREL C ND T E SI B IT bad loss
x.gif
Vi kan selv ændre odds for at få et længere liv.
Ana od ti od ti
miyya iteration thamanya iteration egry iteration besoraa iteration ma'assalama

And two links that are the blinking ">" and the faded numbers background for the page:
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/y/black.jpg
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/y/108.gif

Guess what Lars. We're on to you.

Peace,
Truff

[ILoveEko]

From marvincandle.com, there's an image called black.jpg. You can't see anything but a black banner, but viewing the source code, it says "polar bears lurk in the darkness" or something along those lines.

I'd like to know what alarm.jpg is.
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/alam.jpg
That's the url for it.

[truffula]

Thanks for clearing that up GLF.
ILE - you got me thinkin along some new lines here. Not finished with em all yet, but I decided to view the source code for all the links on mc.com, as you found something.
Now I've found one too, and I'll bet there's alot more.

What the vikings knew may be valuable where you least expect it.

That one comes from the source page for this link:
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/108.jpg

More to come.
Peace,
Truff

[ILoveEko]

What did the vikings know? LOL.

[ILoveEko]

Btw, if you enhance this image in PSP, http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x/speedymagneticdireness.bmp, it's a skull and cross bones. At least, that's what my brother made of it.

[ILoveEko]

Oh! Oh!
In this image: http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/onekra.jpg

Source code has: Koreans know best in it.

ETA: http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/monddes.jpg has What did one bunny do to the other bunny?

Don't think of it.
Your own thoughts can destroy yourself. accompanies http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/agamess.jpg

[truffula]

Here are some other interesting things found in the source code for the links:

Pam Map2005:11:14 22:51:58 Photoshop 3

from: http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/pam.jpg


Koreans know best.

from: http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/onekra.jpg
So is this a Korean chart of some sorts?

What did one bunny do to the other bunny?

from: http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/monddes.jpg

Don't think of it. Your own thoughts can destroy yourself

from: http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/agamess.jpg

Weind stuff huh. I have to step out for a few, and no doubt there will be all kinds of new crap by the time I get back, so agents, stay on top of the OWA updates.

Peace,
Truff

[truffula]

ILE with the timing - :D

[Kinmar]

I believe this image:
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/monddes.jpg
is an inverted image of desmods little stuffed rabbit that he grabs before bolting off into the jungle.

as for this one:
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/y/black.jpg
all i can say is highlight it.

[Lab]

kinmar, i agree with you on the rabbit

[truffula]

Me too, on the rabbit.

[ILoveEko]

Me too with the rabbit. Maybe it's just my browser, I can't highlight that darn black.jpg.

And yeah, sorry Truff, lol. I was getting a little excited, lol.

[Kinmar]

everyone else see the numbers when they highlight black.jpg or is it just me... do i have the sickness?!?!

[truffula]

You're not sick, I see them too.
They are the background for the mainpage.

[Desoma]

From marvincandle.com, there's an image called black.jpg. You can't see anything but a black banner, but viewing the source code, it says "polar bears lurk in the darkness" or something along those lines.

I'd like to know what alarm.jpg is.
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/alam.jpg
That's the url for it.


http://swamij.com/108.htm

On a mala, or set of mantra counting beads, there are generally 108 beads, or some fraction of that number.

[ILoveEko]

Des, that's prefect. Duh, it alam, mala backwards. Silly lil' me kept reading it as alarm. TeeHee. :p

[Lab]

nice des...........108............

[ILoveEko]

These are some things I found interesting from the page Des linked to.

Regardless of the meaning of 108, it is important that if a mala
is used to count mantras, the mantra be remembered with sincerity,
devotion, feeling, and full attention.

Desires: There are said to be 108 earthly desires in mortals.

Lies: There are said to be 108 lies that humans tell.

Delusions: There are said to be 108 human delusions or forms of ignorance.

Time: Some say there are 108 feelings, with 36 related to the past, 36 related to the
present, and 36 related to the future.

[ILoveEko]

Oh, and I know we established the first 5 letters in the 6 letterd image are runes.

About the viking related source code quote... Runes were a viking thing. At least according to: http://www.cdli.ca/CITE/v_runes.htm

[Lab]

hi, ile................very interesting on the time, huh? i was looking at those too

[ILoveEko]

Ok, so I found a site that says what each letter is. Since the last
chacacter doesn't appear on any rune lists, I'm not sure what to make of it.
But in order, these are the letter.

NARUI-
- being the one I can't find.

Anyway have any idea what that could be?

I typed the whole alphabet in, that translator thing... C is the only one they don't use... Think it could be a C?

[TheGuinea_Pig]

How about K.... NARVIK anyone?

[ILoveEko]

Well I tried NARUIC in an anagram generator.
A RUNIC
A INCUR
CIA RUN
CIA URN
AIR CUN
IRA CUNA runic and CIA run are the only possibilities to me, lol.

So could Lars/Alvar be running from the CIA, lol?
A runic could just be referring to it being runic letters.

It could mean nothing since we don't know for sure the last letter.

ETA: This site has a bunch of different kinds of runic alphabets... None of which have something resembling the last character from the image. http://www.omniglot.com/writing/runic.htm

[TheGuinea_Pig]

I don't know about runes specifically but Narvik has been coming up a lot in various websites as a mining country in, I think, Eastern Europe.

[ILoveEko]

Yeah, I've seen it around a few times.

[Lab]

ETA: Removed invalid image file.

[spooky]

I don't know about runes specifically but Narvik has been coming up a lot in various websites as a mining country in, I think, Eastern Europe.
The city in the shots of Hanso in the Orientation film is Narvik, Norway. Check out this thread (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7710&highlight=narvik)

[Lab]

nice, spooky, i had never seen that thread, i think thats a good possibility

[ILoveEko]

Maybe.

[truffula]

It's about time. An UPDATE to the webmaze. FINALLY.
It looks like Lars has been busy. The first link on his site - #x72; - now has this message:

As you may know, I have moved a few times the last few years. I left København for Narvik. Then to a small place in the middle of Sweden and finally to Tyranga.

Revelation draws nearer...

Hvad skal du gøre for at få evigt liv?
Dine børn, andres unger.
Andres unger, dine børn.

Mange tak.

Farvel sålænge.

Translation anyone? Lets get this ball rolling again.
I have more to post in a minute. I want yal workin on translation
while I'm typing my next post.

Peace,
Truff

[rottenralf]

Hvad shells you gøre traveled at few eternal life?
Dine børn, other unger.
Andres unger, dine børn.
Man give.
Farvel sålænge

Hvad skal du gøre for at få evigt liv?
Dine børn, andres unger.
Andres unger, dine børn.
Mange tak.
Farvel sålænge.

I used an online swedish translation page, and the first is what I got back in English. Not sure what to make of it, but I'll see if I can find another one to compare to.

[Lab]

kobenhavn is copenhagen, turanga is in new zealand..........anybodys guess, is that sweedish writing?

[ILoveEko]

I did a Norwegian and got this back:

Hvad do be about you gøre for that a few eternal life? Does not dine børn , else's brood. Else's brood , does not dine børn. Many thanks. Cheerio sålænge.

Comparison for word's not translated between the two?

I'm trying similar languages.

[truffula]

Dutch, try Dutch

[ILoveEko]

Truff, the morse code translates to:

WARSTARS

ETA: Truff, Dutch gives barely anything.

Hvad skal du gøre for at få evigt liv? Dinner børn andres unger. Andres unger , dinner børn. Mangle speciality. Farvel sålænge.

Specialty, dinner. That's about it.

[Darth Wenis]

Swedish translation gave me this:

Hvad shells you gøre traveled at few eternal life?
Dine børn, other unger.
Andres unger, dine børn.

Man give.

Farvel sålænge.

[truffula]

ILE - That's STAR WARS to me. Although, I think I should mention that as I was posting the words from the Keywords, that word "warstars", was one I had highlighted and decided not to post cause at the time I thought it was pretty obvious it was a Star Wars reference, now I'm not so sure.
Hmmm...

[rottenralf]

Dutch you get nothing translated.

[ILoveEko]

Yeah, Star Wars came to me too. But war stars... Could it be some sort of hint to war medals/ribbons or whatever? Like Kate's "dad" had?

Also, one thing I can say for sure about the message is that it's a Nordic language.

[rottenralf]

Warstars sounds like some kind of satalite (sp?) weaponry.

[yung23]

sirius the dog star
http://www.greatdreams.com/dogstar.htm

ps turn up your sound for this one ! lol

thers much more on this star... that was the first link I found


hers more..
http://www.astro.uiuc.edu/~kaler/sow/sirius.html

[Pieces of Arzt]

Danish:

What shall you do to get perpetual life? Yours kids , else's brood. Else's brood , yours kids. Thank you very much. Goodbye sålænge.

[truffula]

Pieces of Arzt - MOST EXCELLENT JOB!!!
Looks good to me.
We gotta get you off the Threat Matrix.

ETA - I KNEW it was Dutch. Alvar is Danish, right?

Peace,
Truff

[truffula]

OOOH, and it gets even BETTER!!!
I've heard back from LARS!
Here is what he said:

You need to forward me the specific information that Candle gave you so
I
can respond. Things are not as they seem. It is not clear which side is
good and which is evil. Further investigation is necessary. Your
assistance will be rewarded with GOLD status if the information is
worthwhile.

Regards,

I've omitted the name of the sender. It is classified.
I'm all over this one folks. We SO passed the test.

ALOT more to come.

Peace,
Truff

[yung23]

i got this from a translation..

What shall you gre to f perpetual life? Dinner brn else's brood. Else's brood dinner brn. Be wanting specialty. Goodbye slnge.

[Blackout]

Some new stuff from marvincandle.com...

"The meek will he guide in judgment: and the meek will he teach his way.
His soul shall dwell at ease; and his seed shall inherit the earth.
Fret not thyself because of the man who bringeth wicked devices to pass.
For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place,
and it shall not be. The meek shall inherit the earth.
Their inheritance shall be for ever."

What appears to be a Mason Logo appears above that message. Above all this there appears to be what looks like hex/Ascii stuff, I'll start converting to see if it makes any sense..

[Blackout]

Some new stuff from marvincandle.com...

"The meek will he guide in judgment: and the meek will he teach his way.
His soul shall dwell at ease; and his seed shall inherit the earth.
Fret not thyself because of the man who bringeth wicked devices to pass.
For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place,
and it shall not be. The meek shall inherit the earth.
Their inheritance shall be for ever."

What appears to be a Mason Logo appears above that message. Above all this there appears to be what looks like hex/Ascii stuff, I'll start converting to see if it makes any sense..

Ok regarding the above text it appears to be from the Book Of Psalms...

The meek will he guide in judgment: and the meek will he teach his way. - 25:9

His soul shall dwell at ease; and his seed shall inherit the earth. - 25:13

Fret not thyself because of the man who bringeth wicked devices to pass. - 37:7

For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be. - 37:10

The meek shall inherit the earth. - 37:11

Their inheritance shall be for ever. - 37:18

[Pieces of Arzt]

The Biblical sounding stuff on marvincandle.com appears to be from the following passages:

Psalm 25
Psalm 37


The Meek Shall Inherit the Earth


Psalms 25:8 Good and upright is the LORD: therefore will he teach sinners in the way.
9 The meek will he guide in judgment: and the meek will he teach his way.
Psalms 25:12 What man is he that feareth the LORD? him shall he teach in the way that he shall choose.
13 His soul shall dwell at ease; and his seed shall inherit the earth.
Psalms 37:7 Rest in the LORD, and wait patiently for him: fret not thyself because of him who prospereth in his way, because of the man who bringeth wicked devices to pass.
8 Cease from anger, and forsake wrath: fret not thyself in any wise to do evil.
9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth.
10 For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.
11 But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
Psalms 37:18 The LORD knoweth the days of the upright: and their inheritance shall be for ever.
Psalms 37:22 For such as be blessed of him shall inherit the earth; and they that be cursed of him shall be cut off.

[Pieces of Arzt]

lol...Blackout beat me to it...

Well, great minds think alike, right?

[Blackout]

Doh!:)

It's seems someone is updating the page over there as they are adding new stuff.. just got this also...


Vi kan selv ændre odds for at få et længere liv. - Vi can be themselves transform odds to get a longish life. (Before Psalms Text)

Dovenskab går foran og armod følger lige efter. - Dovenskab goes ahead and poverty consequences immediately after. (After Psalms Text)

[Pieces of Arzt]

Also:

Vi kan selv ændre odds for at få et længere liv.

Vi can be themselves transform odds to get a longish life.

[ILoveEko]

So we need to know what Dovenskab is...
I tried a bunch of different Nordic languages... No luck.

[Pieces of Arzt]

Basically we seem to be getting a bunch of stuff about life extension, eternal life, cryogenics, etc.

Some of the websites linked to on marvincandle.com also appear to be in some Nordic type language:

http://www.frimurer.no/

I tried just about every language I could think of...Dutch, Danish, Norwegian, Finnish, Swedish, and some others. I can't seem to get this one even remotely translated.

Also, this one translates from Danish sort of:

http://www.dr.dk/Videnskab/Harddisken/Programmer/2004/03/nedfrysning.htm

You are here: Scientific + ITHarddiskenIndslag200403Nedfrysning (http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/index.shtml?from=dan&to=eng&type=url&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dr.dk%2FVidenskab%2F) > > > > > from the trunk drmmenø about perpetual life (http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/index.shtml?from=dan&to=eng&type=url&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dr.dk%2FVidenskab%2FHarddiske n%2FProgrammer%2F2004%2F03%2Fnedfrysning.htm)


http://www.dr.dk/Resources/Published/Images/Harddisken/hd_under_bg.gif


The harddisk (http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/index.shtml?from=dan&to=eng&type=url&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dr.dk%2FVidenskab%2FHarddiske n%2F)

Weeks Harddisk (http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/index.shtml?from=dan&to=eng&type=url&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dr.dk%2FVidenskab%2FHarddiske n%2FUgens%2BHarddisk%2F)

Features (http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/index.shtml?from=dan&to=eng&type=url&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dr.dk%2FVidenskab%2FHarddiske n%2FProgrammer%2F)

Commodities (http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/index.shtml?from=dan&to=eng&type=url&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dr.dk%2FVidenskab%2FHarddiske n%2FArtikler%2F)

Debate (http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/index.shtml?from=dan&to=eng&type=url&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dr.dk%2FVidenskab%2FHarddiske n%2FDebat%2F)

About The harddisk (http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/index.shtml?from=dan&to=eng&type=url&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dr.dk%2FVidenskab%2FHarddiske n%2FOm%2BHarddisken%2F)

HardBlog (http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/index.shtml?from=dan&to=eng&type=url&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dr.dk%2FVidenskab%2FHarddiske n%2FHardBlog%2F)

Multimedie (http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/index.shtml?from=dan&to=eng&type=url&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dr.dk%2FVidenskab%2FMultimedi e%2F)

Temasites (http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/index.shtml?from=dan&to=eng&type=url&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dr.dk%2FVidenskab%2FTema%2F)


Scientific + IT (http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/index.shtml?from=dan&to=eng&type=url&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dr.dk%2FVidenskab%2F)

Know About (http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/index.shtml?from=dan&to=eng&type=url&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dr.dk%2FVidenskab%2Fviden_om% 2F)

The harddisk (http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/index.shtml?from=dan&to=eng&type=url&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dr.dk%2FVidenskab%2FHarddiske n%2F)

Scientific universe (http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/index.shtml?from=dan&to=eng&type=url&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dr.dk%2Fvidenskab%2Fprincipia %2F)





Nedfrysning from the trunk the dream about perpetual life (http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/index.shtml?from=dan&to=eng&type=url&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dr.dk%2FVidenskab%2FHarddiske n%2FProgrammer%2F2004%2F03%2Fjavascript%3ADRPlayer %28%27%27%2C%27%27%2C%27%2FNR%2Frdonlyres%2FC84CEC 57-6A0D-493A-A6C2-D28048ECABB8%2F15625%2F3a6899a33c184a299cad4376d9f a2000.asx%27%2C%27%27%29%3B)

permanent 002124::
P1, Saturday d. 20-03-2004, kl. 2035:
P1, Sunday d. 21-03-2004, kl. 1700: (G)

organizes Germ Stensdal
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The dream warm, however expectation is 196 degrees cold by the participants there kryogeniske plan.
Linker:
The harddisk item about nedfrysning (http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/index.shtml?from=dan&to=eng&type=url&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dr.dk%2FVidenskab%2FHarddiske n%2FArtikler%2F2004%2Fcryogenics.htm)









Temaspot (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/)
http://www.dr.dk/NR/rdonlyres/2700DB97-66C6-4806-83E9-67A136775975/144603/temaident.jpg (http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/index.shtml?from=dan&to=eng&type=url&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dr.dk%2FVidenskab%2FEmner%2FU niverset%2Fasteroider%2F0713125349.htm)





Duck-breeding Spot price (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/)
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Next The harddisk (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/)
Xbox`en upcoming at friday. Vi works at a dance features, where vi has forced a fellow worker, ( it is him at the pictures above) to that pretend to be...






The harddisk online (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/)
The programs play back by
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Tip a friend (http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/index.shtml?from=dan&to=eng&type=url&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dr.dk%2FVidenskab%2FHarddiske n%2FProgrammer%2F2004%2F03%2Fnedfrysning.htm#) Printervenlig (http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/index.shtml?from=dan&to=eng&type=url&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dr.dk%2FVidenskab%2FHarddiske n%2FProgrammer%2F2004%2F03%2Fnedfrysning.htm#)



http://www.dr.dk/Forms/Published/HitCounter.aspx?PostingGUID={C84CEC57-6A0D-493A-A6C2-D28048ECABB8}

*edited to add a little more info

[supermanfan469]

Forgot to add this:

Dovenskab går foran og armod følger lige efter. - Dovenskab goes ahead and poverty consequences immediately after. (After Psalms Text)

Sounds possibly like "Pride comes before a fall." ?

[Lab]

blackout, whats your take on those bible verses you got earlier?


anybody?

[Pieces of Arzt]

blackout, whats your take on those bible verses you got earlier?


anybody?

Well since the verses came from marvincandle.com, which is supposedly run by Lars Navaho, it seems to me that Lars is pointing the finger elsewhere about just who is "evil".

Typically verses like these are verses of comfort, especially for those people who feel that they are being persecuted.

I'm unsure of what this has to do with the Masons, though. The Masons do have connections with Christianity, of course, but throughout history they have also been accused of all sorts of wild things, mostly by conspiracy theorists. Many people have always felt that the Masons are somehow connected to the Illuminati.

[Lab]

i have heard this too about the illuminati and masons, thanks




weiss, i pm'd you!

[Pieces of Arzt]

Has anyone mentioned previously that the bit at the bottom of the updated marvincandle page looks like encrypted text?

*%*4836dab05beb6bbf5f3 98bcd1c374f02700e7b139244514e8f7ebd6 906c52f8840c2cf99 ca82e3c75aa (http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/lost/x.gif)68e52fdefcb0ae50 86958e177b4b48c12318c5ba1eb78fbb0b1b9 c1d3a1ceaef8b9e17b87323804d868252d51624fda339d47a9 355972b2b 1bf73e086fee7e33ac7cf4d8ceb2007aab8e2 e27778b45c309248b5 fbe622d9acd966fd < 108

I have no clue how to decrypt things. Anyone?

[taste]

Beats me PoA. Is that x.gif link just a white page with a blank object in the upper left corner (highlight it)?

[Pieces of Arzt]

If you highlight it, it is not a blank object...

[taste]

Oh? I just see a blue box. I use firefox. Anyway, gotta go. REALLY bad storm on the way here in Georgia.

edit-Okay, well, that was a fun, five minute loud as hell hailstorm!

[Lab]

exoteric esoteric

Neither before nor after.....was there a king like him who turned to....as he did....with all his heart and with all his strength in accordance with the Law of...



--------------new at MC



Anybody?

[TheGuinea_Pig]

2 Kings 23 v25

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=12&chapter=23&version=31

[ILoveEko]

LOL, no idea!
I'm gonna go check it out.

[ILoveEko]

Does anyone know what the image is? The one with a G in the middle.

[yung23]

doh !! Im at my in laws and you guys take this thing into overdrive ?
how the heck am I gonna catch up now ?

masons ? Illuminati ? who would have known ?
hmmm.. i wish we had an austin powers emoticon.. bitting pinky.

update anyone ?

[Darth Wenis]

Does anyone know what the image is? The one with a G in the middle.<br>

It is the symbol for the Freemasons. They are a secret society with a lot of conspiracy theories surronding them. Some people say they possess the holy grail.

[ILoveEko]

It is the symbol for the Freemasons. They are a secret society with a lot of conspiracy theories surronding them. Some people say they possess the holy grail.

Well then... LOL.

[ILoveEko]

Apparently, someone at www.lost-forum.com (http://www.lost-forum.com) has been in contact with Lars.

They got an encoded message from him, that got changed to:
Code red, button pressed! I'm outta here!!!
Also, I won't post the email address', but there is more than one for Lars on the link to that discussion.
Here's the link. It's worth the read in some spots.
http://lost-forum.com/archive/index.php/t-22953.html

ETA: Truff! They even mention you, indirectly, haha.


GuineaPig
12-02-2005, 10:40 PM

It sure is... I wish I knew where the one "agent" found the other half of the torn letter from Alvar... it might give me some sense of direction instead of following along blindly.


However, apparently someone at TWoP got it too?
eleana12-02-2005, 10:46 PM
Marvin Candle sent it to him. Somebody over at televisionwithoutpity showed the e-mail he apparently got, and Candle said it was his reward. But we don't know what he did to get it. And that's what makes me really curious.

[truffula]

Lars has been at it again.
An UPDATE to marvincandle.com:
In invisotext next to the mason's crest, there is a NEW Phrase:

exoteric esoteric
Neither before nor after ... was there a king like him who turned to ... as he did -— with all his heart and with all his soul and with all his strength, in accordance with all the Law of ...

Sound like GILGAMESH anyone?

Peace,
Truff

[Max Criden]

"Neither before nor after Josiah was there a king like him who turned to the Lord as he did–with all his heart and with all his soul and with all his strength, in accordance with all the Law of Moses." (2 Kings 23:23.)

[ILoveEko]

Truff...
Lars' location... Do you think there's a clue hidden somewhere on mc.com?
Didn't someone post a message from him saying where he was staying? What was the mention of Narvik before?
Things are just running through my head that I read a while ago, so I'm just trying to remember....

ILE.

[truffula]

One of those locations Lars mentioned yesterday could be it.
I can't find it. What were they?

ETA - Besides Narvik?

[leenzii]

the last location he mentioned was somewhere in newzealand....

that's the best i can do in getting the map/rocks to look n e thing similar :confused:

[Lab]

post 484-486 ............... copenhagen and tyranga (turanga, new zealand?)

[ILoveEko]

I can't remember any locations... Were they in emails from him? Ugh. Now I'm frustrated, cuz we probably have the answer to this somewhere.

[ILoveEko]

Lab is on the ball today, lol.
Thanks Lab.

[rottenralf]

leenzii - thanks for the map/rocks comparison, just might be something to that.

[yung23]

tnxs..

btw where were the mason links etc ?

[Lab]

yung.....mason reference.......post 601-619 and on hanso thread, see post 619.......and again post 702-707.......also were we satisfied with gilgamesh from sirius and the dogstar last night, does somebody wanna see if that may also have any references to Masonic use?

[TheGuinea_Pig]

And there's our three key players: Alvar hanso, Marvin Candle and Vincent Madison. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. Now we just need to figure out which one's which.

Personally I suspect that there is no "good" in this, just degrees of bad (assuming they were all in on the projects intentions).....and for sure Marvin's a Ugly SOB!!! :eek:

[Innaja]

Hi =)

Been sitting here debating with myself if I should make a post or not (because I havent read this whole thread yet, due to too many small children..haha) anyway!! I've scrolled through all the pages and keep falling over posts where you guys are trying to translate a "scandinavien" language... Well it appears to be danish (again Im really sorry if you guys already figured this out and have all the things translated by now..... Just slap me then!!!)

Jesus Im just going on and on without making much sence... But to make a long story short I'm born and raised in Denmark, witch was why I found it so funny that there is so much stuff in this thread in danish....

Gonna read this whole thread tonight when all my children are in bed... And well.... Yeah I dont know! :confused:

Janni... (I make lame posts I know)

[DarthKitty]

Great Janni! Any help that we can get is terrific! Welcome! I am new as well, to this particular board. The people are very warm and inviting.

[Pieces of Arzt]

Janni...I think we figured out that most of that stuff was in Danish. However, we were using online translators to translate it, and a lot of the translations aren't that great. If you see anything in them that you think is inaccurate or could be translated better, then please share!

Welcome! :)

[Lab]

innaja, we were on sweedish and moved to dutch, but still couldnt make much of it.....your input will be appreciated.........welcome

[ILoveEko]

Well when I translate stuff, since we know it's in Nordic languages, I use Norwegian and Dutch and Swedish.
I wouldn't know personally, but they seem to translate some, if not many, of the words to the same or a slightly different form of the same word.

[Pieces of Arzt]

Are we not referring to the same things? All the Nordic looking stuff I've ever seen in relation to any of these sites was always best translated in Danish, and I posted the results. So did a few other people. Is there something new out there that I haven't seen yet? I'm confused.

[Lab]

pieces, i remember you translating and posting, but i didnt think we made anything of it, i was hoping our new danish expert, innaja, may be able to make more of it than we did.......we were discussing it around page 50-52.....pieces translation was post number 509

Danish:

What shall you do to get perpetual life? Yours kids , else's brood. Else's brood , yours kids. Thank you very much. Goodbye sålænge.
__________________




this was pieces translation.

[truffula]

Janni - let me also Welcome you to the Boards and the Webmaze!!
Good to have you onboard!! :D

ILE - as far as today being quiet, I can tell you that there are things developing behind the scenes. I am making progress.

Peace,
Truff

[Pieces of Arzt]

pieces, i remeber you translating and posting, but i didnt think we made anything of it, i was hoping our new dutch expert, innaja, may be able to make more of it than we did.......we were discussing it around page 50-52.....pieces translation was post number 509

Innaja said she knows Danish, not Dutch. The translations were also from Danish, not Dutch. As far as I know, they are not the same language, though I think they are related.

[Lab]

i stand corrected Innaja is danish (and they are not the same thing-------thanks, pieces.)

they do seem similar however, hopefully she will be able to give us some additional insight on it.

[ILoveEko]

PoA, Nordic is the classification they are in.

This might help:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_languages

[Pieces of Arzt]

PoA, Nordic is the classification they are in.

This might help:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_languages

ILE--

Thanks, but I know this. I looked up Danish and Dutch already, and they don't appear to be the same language, but related, as I already said.

When I tried translating these Nordic bits from these websites they wouldn't translate well from Dutch to English. They translated the best from Danish to English though.

BTW, I also used Norwegian, Finnish, Swedish, and a variety of other European languages that I was pretty sure wouldn't translate (and didn't), but I tried anyway. lol

[Lab]

lets just wait and see if innaja has anything to add after she gets a chance to look. She has a better chance than us.

pieces, i know you looked them up, but hoping she will have more to add.
you still da man!

[Pieces of Arzt]

lets just wait and see if innaja has anything to add after she gets a chance to look. She has a better chance than us.

pieces, i know you looked them up, but hoping she will have more to add.
you still da man!


will delete this in a few minutes

I'm not a man (no worries; it happens a lot), and yes, I want Innaja to look them over too. I'm just trying to figure out why people keep referring to it as Dutch. I'm wondering if I'm missing something.

[Lab]

pieces, my bad - U GO GIRL!

probably because your translation, which states danish, in post 509, is followed in post 510 talking about hanso being dutch......danish and dutch.....before you corrected me earlier i thought it was the same. But I realized now its Holland and Denmark........but thats where confusion probably came in.......

guineapig, sorry to see your still there with that Jibba Jabba!

[ILoveEko]

PoA, sorry, lol. I always get my results from Norwegian and Dutch when I translate.
What translator are you using? Cuz I found a pretty good one. If you'd like to check it out, let me know, I'll post a link.

[Pieces of Arzt]

Sure, ILE. Post it!

I don't remember which one I was using. When I come across it again, I'll let you know.

[ILoveEko]

http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/result.shtml

That's what I use lately.
Sometimes it's down because a lot of people are using it, but refreshing it a few times normally works.

[Rhiannon]

whew, finally caught up again lol this is nuts!
Regarding the language...it's NOT Dutch. I copied the phrase in question and asked my MIL to translate it for me (she is Dutch and speaks a few different dialects, plus some German) she said a couple of the words looked German, but she didn't know what the rest of it is. I'm trying to keep her updated on what's going on here. I got her hooked on LOST, last season.

[Lab]

rhiannon, any luck on the rocks from the hanso thread yet? when you get some answers, please make sure you post them there. Thanks, and we're hoping innaja is able to make more of the translations as well. Thanks again for your help!

[Rhiannon]

Nope, not yet. Sorry. Gonna have to wait till tomorrow when I go take my final. She already had people waiting to see her today. I'm gonna do some more research on my own tonight too. I KNOW she is gonna ask me what I think they are LOL.

[Innaja]

Hi again =)


Just have 5 minutes... Figured I would post the translation of this

Hvad skal du gøre for at få evigt liv?
Dine børn, andres unger.
Andres unger, dine børn.

Mange tak.

Farvel sålænge.



What do you have to do to get eternal life?
Your children, others kids.
Others kids, your children.

Thank you very much

Goodbye and solong.


I know you guys translated it already, and what I just posted isn't that much diffrent!! Still Im only up to reading page 53 =/ It's hard getting 5 minutes to myself before 8pm with a 8 month old and a 23 month old running around...hehe!

If any of you know of something else then this that needs translation please let me know :D


Janni...

[truffula]

Nice job Janni!!!
We appreciate all your help!!

Peace,
Truff

[Rhiannon]

Thanks Janni!!

Hmmm..... your children + OTHERS kids??????

[Lab]

thanks janni! almost the same as yours pieces.:)

[TheGuinea_Pig]

Thanks Janni!!

Hmmm..... your children + OTHERS kids??????
Juxtapositional Eugenics = Strategic Genetic Engineering.

[ILoveEko]

Fuchtherezer
12-02-2005, 01:02 PM

Did a whois lookup on www.marvincandle.com and found this:
Registrant:
The Lars Navaho Foundation

Poste Restante
Island of Tyranga, Cave land 481516
Tuvalu

Registered through: Mad Dog Domains and Cattle Company
Domain Name: MARVINCANDLE.COM
Created on: 25-Oct-05
Expires on: 25-Oct-06
Last Updated on: 25-Oct-05

Administrative Contact:
Navaho, Lars larsnavaho@marvincandle.com
The Lars Navaho Foundation
Poste Restante
Island of Tyranga, Cave land 481516
Tuvalu
46734248848
Technical Contact:
Navaho, Lars larsnavaho@marvincandle.com
The Lars Navaho Foundation
Poste Restante
Island of Tyranga, Cave land 481516
Tuvalu
46734248848

Quoted from: http://lost-forum.com/archive/index.php/t-22967.html
Oh, and this one:
The interesting thing about Tuvalu is that it is a group of islands about halfway between Hawaii and Australia and the name roughly translates to "8 standing together", more info here http://www.tuvaluislands.com/about.htm
Apparently they made up the name of the island and "Cave land 481516"

I'm curious as to what the significance is to the number "46734248848".

The last 2 comments on that page, other than the ones I posted, I found most interesting.

[ILoveEko]

Update on marvincandle.com
If you go to the "195" address, it just says "Dharma is watching"
At least it does for me, lol.

[truffula]

So THIS is what today is gonna be like -
go look at what the invisotext on marvincandle.com says now.
Here we go again with the webmaze game. :D

Now, I REALLY gotta get to work, I'm late as hell as it is.....
Peace,
Truff

[TheGuinea_Pig]

A couple of things have remained constant throughout these changes to mc.com:

- The opening two texts, reading backwards. While there is a link that reverses/corrects some of the text, the text itself has remained constant.

- One link activates the page change (used to be just after the #x72, now it's after the 51).

- The freemason's symbol.

- The last line of the first set of numbers (20,8,5,25,23,9, (http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/bscyltooiendjaeitaecynsoceaaakiewjnomairyllrwhlhre uacrnnheesanicaluhkslk.html)12,12,1 (http://www.lotto.ie/),12,12, (http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/z/it.mid)4,9, (http://481.51.623.42/)5). Prior to these numbers all the others end in a semi-colon, except the one right before these. When matched up against corresponding letters of the alphabet, it spells "THEY WILL ALL DIE".


Just thought I'd point out the obvious in some hope that it may spark an epiphany in somebody. :D

[ILoveEko]

Very interesting invisi-text.
And some of the links have changed... Maybe it's just new to me cuz I haven't been there in a couple days, but yeah.

I'll post them just so that lurkers and ppl who haven't gone can see them, and incase they are new.

http://www.frimurer.no/ Which is the website for the Norwegian Freemason's.

http://nobelprize.org/physics/laureates/1970/alfven-bio.html Which is a biography of Hannes Alfven.

http://www.dr.dk/Videnskab/Harddisken/Programmer/2004/03/nedfrysning.htm Which is in Danish (that's what translated it best for me) for anyone wondering.

http://keithlynch.net/les/ This I think I've seen before... Life Extension Society.

http://www.futurescience.com/contents.html The Life Extension Manual.

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/cryopreservation Is kinda self-explanatory in the link, lol.

http://www.esrange.com/default.asp?groupid=2004518134827211 The Swedish Space Corporation.

http://swamij.com/108.htm This is a link about mala beads. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm 99% sure a user sent me this exact link when I was asking about the "alam" image on the site....

Anyway, some of those are newer to me, a couple I can't remember, haha.

[ILoveEko]

Update on marvincandle.com
Dad? Is that you, Dad? Hello? The button is bad. I am wet and cold. Please help. Dad? You there?
Is at the bottom of the page now.

[sayidsalot]

Update on marvincandle.com

Is at the bottom of the page now.


Hard for no "crossover" of threads, in that vein, I was on the BSS1 chat for just a few minutes this morning. There was a fake Walt there, then a real one came on for JUST a minute. He said he is now the new OWNER of marvincandle.com.

don't know if it's true, or what it means, but thought I would pass it on.

Happy Holiday (generic non-religous greeting) sayidsalot

namaste

[truffula]

Very good reporting sayidsalot.
So one of the Walts from bss1 is claiming ownership of marvincandle.com.
Interesting.
Keep your eyes on MC.com today (my browser at work won't let me see it so it's up to yal to find any updates til later). I smell another update. ;)

Peace,
Truff

[sayidsalot]

Very good reporting sayidsalot.
So one of the Walts from bss1 is claiming ownership of marvincandle.com.
Interesting.
Keep your eyes on MC.com today (my browser at work won't let me see it so it's up to yal to find any updates til later). I smell another update. ;)

Peace,
Truff

good eyes, truff - I guess that maybe Walt is trying to tell us where the next hidden image will be found! - Exciting! - how can I be flying all day tommorow !!!! - I will really MISS this board then!

[aggiesean]

I spent the morning doing a full analysis of www.marvincandle.com , links and all. My intention was to post it here until I realized that it's 12 full pages in Microsoft Word (there's 40 hidden links now). As I mentioned in the discussion thread last night, I'm gonna try to do a full analysis at least once a week and report on the changes because with how the site is set up, it's near impossible to know when something has changed.

Attached is my full report as it stands on the site, including analysis from posts by Innaja, TheGuinea_Pig, Desoma, IloveEko, Kinmar, and Limner, as well as from my own e-mails from larsnavaho@marvincandle.com (larsnavaho@marvincandle.com). It's not complete, so if you have anything that should be added, post here or PM me. I especially need to hear from you if you:
1. Can speak Danish, Norwegian, or Korean. I only speak English fluently, with some Spanish and Arabic, so I know nothing about the portions of this site involving these languages.
2. Can translate audio morse code to text format. There are two midi files with code on the site, and explanations for what is on there so far are conflicting IMHO.
3. Have received any other correspondence from larsnavaho@marvincandle.com that may provide more insight into what's on the site.

I'll try to do the whole thing again next Wednesday (Lostday!) and every Lostday after that.

[ILoveEko]

There are two other emails ppl have apparently heard from also.
One being larsnavaho1980AThotmailDOTcom (larsnavaho1980@hotmail.com) and larsnavahoATgmailDOTcom (larsnavaho@gmail.com) I think.
I remember seeing them a while ago over at TWoP and lost-forum.

[Lab]

aggiesean, that is AWESOME work! AWESOME~!

[truffula]

aggiesean, Most Excellent!!
I also have very detailed notes for www.marvincandle.com (http://www.marvincandle.com) that I will PM you when I get home. Just to have something to cross reference against.
I'm kinda surprised my name didn't get mentioned with the others - I thought I had posted my extensive notes for this - oh well, I guess I can't be involved with everything. ;)

MC.com has done very little since it opened up. The invisotext has changed a few times, and the link to the page with all the number links changed once.
I have also gotten emails from Lars. Don't know if it was anything relevant, but I have em all saved, so I'll check.

Once again, GREAT JOB aggie!!!

Peace,
Truff

[Unicornasaurus]

Alright, I know this is an old topic, but being pretty knowledgeable about computers and everything, I thought I'd examine as many corners as I could.

Now, with most of the links on the www.marvincandle.com (http://www.marvincandle.com) website, they go to this address:
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/

Now, with that address, if you go to it, you get these numbers:
17294535

At first I thought it might've been a counter, so I refreshed the page, and it didn't change. I thought that it could've been a unique counter, so I checked the source code for the page, and there's nothing, except the numbers right there.

Now, as with EVERY website, there's a parent directory for every directory, so I went to this link next:
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x/
And got the sentence "Death is not the end".
Now I knew, whoever made this page anticipated people checking parent directories, so I went one deeper.
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/

This comes up with "Dharma is Watching", I went up once more
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/
This brings you to "DEATH". Now, as stated earlier, it said "Death is not the end", so I translated the "q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b", where the % and the 2 letters/numbers after that combined, make up a letter/symbol. The result came out with "quackmcduck", which ultimately in the end, left me at the same spot.

I'm still in the midst of testing stuff out on that web page, but the odd thing is, is that the http://195.3566308 IS NOT an IP address, but looks more like a sub-domain, which 3566308 would have to be the domain name, but you can't have an all numeric domain name, and there's no .com either.

Another thing, if you go to http://195.3566308, is that it takes you to this page http://www.bredband.com/portal/PRIVAT_START , which appears to be a german ISP

Sorry if this is a repost, but I was just..excited, to say the least, since this mystery surrounding a TV show is so intrigueing.

[Poke]

Another thing, if you go to http://195.3566308, is that it takes you to this page http://www.bredband.com/portal/PRIVAT_START , which appears to be a german ISP.

Nope is not German it's a Swedish ISP in fact the same that hosts , www.kraftkost.se and www.dharmaindustries.com (http://www.dharmaindustries.com).
/Poke

[Unicornasaurus]

Nope is not German it's a Swedish ISP in fact the same that hosts , www.kraftkost.se (http://www.kraftkost.se) and www.dharmaindustries.com (http://www.dharmaindustries.com).
/Poke

I stand corrected.

[drabauer]

Unicornasaurus, welcome to the losttv-forum! We have a special forum set up to discuss the lost-related websites. Read the Truffula's excellent Webmaze travel guide (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12138) to see how marvincandle.com fits into the other sites. You will find many great fellow sleuths on that forum.

[wadsy]

on that web site
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/ (http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/)x/ (http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%...5%63%6b/abc/x/)

if you also change the last letter around it also shows some other stuff

http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/y/
THEY WILL BE BACK!!

http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/ (http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/)z/ (http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%...5%63%6b/abc/z/)
SECURED WHEN ALL NUMB

thats all i've found, might be more

[Typhonae]

According to the Lost Webmaze, this site should be full of links, however, the links are gone [ minus ABC and Lost, ] and now it says the following :

>: .dednetni sa ti nur ot eunitnoc lliw I .msitengamortcele dna ygoloroetem ,ygolooz ,ygolohcysparap ,ygolohcysp ni rehtruf krow dleif ecnavda ot troffe na ni yltnecer em ot revo dednah saw moc.eldnacnivram fo pihsrenwo ehT

[ The ownership of marvincandle.com was handed over to me revently in an effort to advance field work further in psychology, parapsychology, zoology, meteorology, and electromagnetics. I will continue to run it as intended.]


.etsamaN .ereh ytilicaf eht fo peekpu eht no setadpu tnatropmi tsop yam I .evitaitinI amrahD ehT fo doog retaerg eht rof selur eht wollof tsum uoY .llew gniog si ytilicaf hcraeser eht ta yats ruoy epoh I .ARPANET hguorht em dnuof dna "nawS ehT" rof mlif noitatneiro eht dehctaw ev'uoy emussa I siht dnuof ev'uoy ecniS .Marvin Candle .rD m'I ,emocleW

[ Welcome, I'm Dr. Marvine Candle. Since you've found this I assume you've watched the orientation film for "The Swan" and found me through TENAPRA.[?] I hope youre stay at the research facility is going well. You must follow the rules for the greater good of The Dharma Initiative. I may post important updates on the upkeep of the facility here. Namasta. ]

4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42, 22, 23, 3*5, 24, 23, 2*3*7, 4, 8, F, 10, 17, 2A, #x64; #x68; #x61; #x72; #x6D; #x61; 0x04, 0x08, 0x0F, 0x10, 0x17, 0x2A, #916; #920; #913; #931; #925; #913; 64, 68, 61, 72, 6D, 61, 69, 6E, 69, 74, 69, 61, 74, 69, 76, 65, 100, 1000, 1111, 10000, 10111, 101010, 0061, 006C, 0076, 0061, 0072, 0020, 0068, 0061, 006E, 0073, 006F, 108, 10, 5D, 11, 1H, 51, (http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/lost/hanso/) 9A, 23, 6R, 92, 4M, 65, 2A, 64, 6F, 6E, 74, 70, 72, 65, 73, 73, 69, 74, 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42, #85; #110; #105; #118; #101; #114; #115; #105; #116; #121; #32; #111; #102; #32; #77; #105; #99; #104; #105; #103; #97; #110; 22, 23, 3*5, 24, 23, 2*3*7, x6E; perdu; x61; x72; x76; x69; x6B; 66. 132. 217. 131, 62, 39, N, 16, 32, E, C5, 4E, 47, 45, 63, 61, 72, 72,6F, 74, 73, di, 9f, f, tr, 73, 1

[ You're guess is as good as mine. ]

Does anyone know what the site originally said before the modification, and what TENAPRA is ?

This is one bizzare website...

[rottenralf]

The link is on the comma after the number 51. On the next page make sure you highlight the entire page to see all the other links.

[Lab]

Welcome Typhonae to the Boards and Webmaze Madness!

TENAPRA is Arpanet (backwards)......Marvin Candles intranet

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ETA: New readers of this thread, the posts leading up to aggieseans post 2 posts after this one were older discussion on Marvincandle.com before the official marvincandle thread was started by aggiesean on the upcoming post. I just merged them into this thread.

There is also a bit of discussion on this site in the KCSP Agents and OWA MilesPlus Members (Parts 1 & 2) (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11582) thread as well. That thread is a hodge-podge of a lot of sites, before we had seperate threads in the Spin-off forum as we have now.

Hope this helps.

Lab

[djalexk]

has any1 tried to input the numbers into one of those older phones that has composer. maybe it has the lost theme tune, any way i dont know where i was going with that, just an idea, but im so lost :P.

[aggiesean]

I've gotten a couple of PMs asking me about marvincandle.com, and the links therein. I tried posting my full report on it earlier, but it's now too big to attach on this forum! :o So I've attached the section outlining the forty different links on the hidden page, and some analysis of these links. I'm trying to keep a good file on this site updated, as it is truly a maze, so if you have any comments on the links or on anything from MC.com, just let me know. Thanks!

[DarthKitty]

Poppiung back in.....I just got an email from Lars through stealth. The problem is, I don't have the code to get the message and all he gave me was a hint. And I never got the personal email. Boo Hoo :(!

[aggiesean]

Poppiung back in.....I just got an email from Lars through stealth. The problem is, I don't have the code to get the message and all he gave me was a hint. And I never got the personal email. Boo Hoo :(!
CHECK YOUR PM

[DarthKitty]

I sent Lars an email: Mr. Navaho, Is Alvar Hanso ok? Is he still alive? Thought you might have the answers I seek. I then got a message back almost immediately:You receiving this message means he could do worse. What do you think about that!?!

[aggiesean]

I sent Lars an email: Mr. Navaho, Is Alvar Hanso ok? Is he still alive? Thought you might have the answers I seek. I then got a message back almost immediately:You receiving this message means he could do worse. What do you think about that!?!

:eek:

Okay, I'm thinking there's a Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde deal here, only this time with Dr. Hanso/Mr. Navaho. You're receiving the message, Rosie, which given your question means that Alvar is okay. But the "worse" thing makes me think that Mr. Navaho doesn't approve of some of the things Dr. Hanso is doing. But, again, given the "you receiving this message means" line, they must be in the same body! Hence, two minds, one body, Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde.

Either that or you're really Alvar, Rosie.

[DarthKitty]

BWAAA!:naughty: I AM Alvar Hanso!!! :rotfl:

[agrillo]

I've gotten a couple of PMs asking me about marvincandle.com, and the links therein. I tried posting my full report on it earlier, but it's now too big to attach on this forum! :o So I've attached the section outlining the forty different links on the hidden page, and some analysis of these links. I'm trying to keep a good file on this site updated, as it is truly a maze, so if you have any comments on the links or on anything from MC.com, just let me know. Thanks!

Checked out the stuff I uncovered on MC.com. Doesn't seem to be much at the moment. Lots of stuff on Cryogenics though. Like the rest of the webmaze, time will tell. I'm not writing it off though. I will be checking it more frequently now.

[truffula]

Heard back from LARS, and it was an Auto-Reply:

I had to leave because there has been a terrible accident at a remote location. I may not be reachable by e-mail for a while since the coverage is poor down there.

Lars Navaho

Back to the Simpsons....
Peace,
Truff

[aggiesean]

Heard back from LARS, and it was an Auto-Reply:

I had to leave because there has been a terrible accident at a remote location. I may not be reachable by e-mail for a while since the coverage is poor down there.

Lars Navaho

Back to the Simpsons....
Peace,
Truff

Every time you e-mail him, you'll get that reply first. Then, in some time (ranging from 10 minutes to 10 days, in my experience) you may get an e-mail from stealthmessage.com, sayiing you have a message from him. The code is the sum of the numbers.

[truffula]

Nice. Thanks again for the info aggie!!! :D

[bcool1956]

Say how do you get info from marvincandle.com. When I'm there I don't see any links.

[rottenralf]

Try the comma after the number 51. All the links seem to be numbers or punctuation that isn't highlighted. Also use CTRL A to highlight the page for hidden text.

[aggiesean]

This thread is for discussing old and new text on marvincandle.com, analysis of the tricky maze therein, and posting and analysing weird personal messages from Lars Navaho.

I've tried to keep a file recently keeping track of everything on this site in a document for myself. When trying to post it Wednesday, however, it had grown larger than the 195KB limit for Word docs on the forums! So this post has the first section attached, with the second section (outlining all (currently) 40 links) to be posted in a few seconds.

[aggiesean]

Here's the links analysis I have so far as well:

[aggiesean]

More to add, from a new e-mail I got from Lars Navaho:

What I sent: "What is the connection between Freemasons and Life Extension? From the Norwegian Freemasons to the logo, it seems to permeate many things on your site, but I have been unable to make a clear connection."

His response:
"You need strong allies may it be the Norwegian resistance or underground organizations."

[truffula]

I'll post the whole thing when I get home, but I've also recently heard from LARS. I forget what I sent him, but his reply said something about "I control the Security System".
I'll dig it all up and post it a little later.
Nice to see some activity from this site though. :D

Peace,
Truff

[oceanic_lisa]

Just out of curiosity, is there anyone else but me who has never been able to get into this site?? IE always shows "action canceled"...

[Jeannie]

Lisa, I have the same problem. I just get the action cancelled page. I've never gotten through.

[TheGuinea_Pig]

That last entry on the page:

"nun de m'eon oligos te kai outidanos kai aeikes phagedaina d'he mou sarkas esthiei podos"

"Yet a small man, worthless and unseemly, the tumor which is eating the flesh of my foot."

This would seem to me how Alvar would regard Dr Candle, a smaller man of science with small vision yet constantly hindering his progress.

[aggiesean]

That last entry on the page:

"nun de m'eon oligos te kai outidanos kai aeikes phagedaina d'he mou sarkas esthiei podos"

"Yet a small man, worthless and unseemly, the tumor which is eating the flesh of my foot."

This would seem to me how Alvar would regard Dr Candle, a smaller man of science with small vision yet constantly hindering his progress.

I like how you think, TGP! Yesterday I e-mailed asking if that was geared towards anyone in particular, and he said:
Aristotle was much wiser than the time he lived in. He would outsmart many men of today.

Some lose an arm, some a leg. Some get problems with their feet walking barefoot through the jungle.

Emphasis mine. "Lose an arm" is a clear reference to Dr. C. The last sentence, I can't really figure out, though. I'm assuming the "walking barefoot through the jungle" is in reference to the Others, but is it looking down on the Others, or highly upon the Others and down upon...other people who aren't...the Others?

[agrillo]

I'm weary as to whether this site is legit. I recieved an email from Lars and he said Alvar from snowmail was an imposter. If I had to make an assumption about which is real I'd definitely go with KCSP/Snow/XNA.

[keepthefaith]

Has the G symbol always been in the bottom right hand corner of this page?

[Lab]

it has been there a long time, faith.....it is A Masonic symbol. We have done a lot of research on it in the Agents thread as well.

[truffula]

Well I can FINALLY see the new invisotext!!!
YAY!!!!
Too bad it's not that new anymore. But at least I can SEE it now! :D

Peace,
Truff

[aggiesean]

I still find the whole mason thing on the site weird, and Lars's response as to why the Masons are involved even weirder:

"You need strong allies may it be the Norwegian resistance or underground organizations."

[bigeyedfish]

Right here goes,

I just spent some time working on MarvinCandle.com - I'm a computer science student, and I've been searching through the source codes for the web pages, and come up with some interesting stuff.

WARNING - This is taken from marvincandle.com - so two things you should bear in mind
a) This may be to throw us off the scent completely, and
b) There may be stuff in here that is on the web secretly hidden away, but hasnt been covered in the episodes yet - particularly some of the morse messages below.

MarvinCandle seems interesting as it is - with the backwards message (any relation to the mirrored DHARMA logo people saw?!), and the set of numbers, all of which are different representations of the numbers we have come to know and love. But there is a hidden secret here. The comma after the number 51 in roughly the middle of the page is a link...

Pressing the link takes you to a seemingly identical page. Except its vastly different. There are now dozens of hidden links within the page, all of which I will list here. Also, if you try highlighting the text at the bottom of the page, there is some foreign text I cannot translate just yet, a symbol which we all know belongs to none other than the freemasons, and a message that looks lke it was left by walt, ending with "He is evil, he is evil" repeated over and over.

The links seem to be the most fascinating part though. They are all found within the garbled mess of numbers in the page and are as follows:
First Link - a strange mathematical image... (http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/arrows.jpg)
An image of skull and crossbones. (http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x/speedymagneticdireness.bmp)
The recording of the sound the monster makes (http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/z/tlaw.mp3)
A reference to John Locke at Stamford, in a religious article (http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/locke/#3.2)
A strange image, seemingly some form of cipher, image named 108.jpg (http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/108.jpg)
Link to Oceanicflight815.com (http://www.oceanicflight815.com/)
Dharma.mp3 - which is morse code for the word "DIE" (http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/z/dHaRmA.mp3)
A rather cryptic map (http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/pam.jpg)
A link to the lost official site (http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/)
An image of some form of prayer bracelet (http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/alam.jpg)
A link to cryonet - a web page concerning cryogenics (http://www.cryonet.org/)
Some form of strange cipher again - can this be used with the link above? (http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/onekra.jpg)
Another image with the same name, just different contents (http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x/onekra.jpg)
A link to the seating chart (http://www.fly-oceanic.com/seatingchart.htm)
Objectives of the Orsted Mission (http://web.dmi.dk/fsweb/projects/oersted/mission/objectives.html)
A photograph of an island (http://www.destinationnarvik.com/bildearkiv_nyhet/Narvikb031.jpg)
The definition of cryopreservation (http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/cryopreservation)
Another link to the official site (http://abc.go.com/fsp/index.html?channel=Lost)
A link to the podcasts (http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/podcasts.html)
A very strange image named "Monddes.jpg" (Desmond backwards?) (http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/monddes.jpg)
A link to the swedish space corporation (http://www.esrange.com/default.asp?groupid=2004518134827211)
A religious site discussing the number 108 (http://swamij.com/108.htm)
A link to future science.com (http://www.futurescience.com/contents.html)
The life extension page at the hanso foundation (http://www.thehansofoundation.org/lep.html)
Life extension society (http://keithlynch.net/les/)
REALLY INTERESTING: 4815162342.jpg (http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/4815162342.jpg) Seems to be a map of some form - near to australia, with a clearly marked region in the sea with a large X
The Stanford Prison Experiment (http://www.answers.com/topic/stanford-prison-experiment)
A strange image (http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/agamess.jpg)
Distresssignal.mid - Morse code playing out a message (see 1 below) (http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/z/distresssignal.mid)
Scientists cryonics faq (http://www.alcor.org/sciencefaq.htm)
Another very strange image - edud.jpg (dude backwards) (http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/edud.jpg)
A strange dutch page (http://www.dr.dk/Videnskab/Harddisken/Programmer/2004/03/nedfrysning.htm)
The Bio of Hannes Alfven (http://nobelprize.org/physics/laureates/1970/alfven-bio.html)
Another norweigan site, Ivar A Star or something similar... (http://www.frimurer.no/)
A page with just the word BRANDON, but a very long URL (have a look at the link properties) (http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/bscyltooiendjaeitaecynsoceaaakiewjnomairyllrwhlhre uacrnnheesanicaluhkslk.html)
The Irish Lottery (http://www.lotto.ie/)
IT.mid - Another morse signal, see 2 below (http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/z/it.mid)
A random blank link (http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/lost/x.gif)
NASA risk page for earth collisions (http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/a99942.html)

Some of the links are hard to find as they are commas or spaces between words. Either look at the pagesource, or use my links I've copied and pasted for you here.

The morse signals are interesting - thankfully I can translate morse, and have translated them as follows:

1) (the distress signal)
HRISIIE SCIENCE DISASTER SOCIAL EXPERIMENT CLONING SHOTS LIFE ETERNAL

2) (The one titled IT)
ITERATION 7294536 HE IS OUTSIDE PLEASE HELP US THEY ARE DEAD HE KILLED THEM ALL

Well, there we go - at the moment I am trying to get around the security on thedharmainitiative.info and other dharmainitiative sites, but the producers are very very good at designing websites it seems ;)

So - what do you think to the findings above? Does it help enlighten us with anything?

The cloning part seemed really odd in the distress call - I havent seen anything about cloning yet - this could be interesting...

[aggiesean]

Nice work bigeyedfish! I have a lot of that documented (the documented links on the "Official marvincandle.com discussion thread"), but the distresssignal.mid translation was new. That one used to have the same thing as it.midi, and that's the translation I have documented. But cloning could fit, given the emphasis on life extension on the site and the Raelian claims to have cloned humans (via ClonAid) and that it's the first step towards eternal life.

I think we need marvincandle.com to change more personally...other than the new greek invisitext it's been pretty much the same for a month now. (you reading this, Lars? :) )

Mods, this can probably be meshed in with the marvincandle.com discussion thread.

[Lost Freaks]

the page wasnt blank i need someone to check what this means
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/lost/x.gif

[aggiesean]

NEW INVISITEXT ON THE HIDDEN PAGE:

Feel those vibrations flow in my brain. Keeps me sane. I'm one of the survivors. I'm on an island and I've got nowhere to run. You think you need nobody to guide you, but you're still a long way from home. If you use a dream to change a mind, then imagination's real. We were lost and found, and we beat the fear. We are the chosen people, give back our ... land. Looking for ... child in the big black smoke, in the big black smoke. Walter, isn't it a shame the way our ... world has changed? But Walter, my ... , where are you now? I just drift away to my island ... imaginary paradise, perfection. But I gotta get the first plane home. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil.


I'll look through the source, see if any links have changed.

ETA: Also, this line has changed:

"Dad? I am wet and cold. I can't talk long because they are coming back."

[ILoveEko]

Nice find aggie :)

[supermodel]

We are the chosen people, give back our ... land. Looking for ... child in the big black smoke, in the big black smoke. Walter, isn't it a shame the way our ... world has changed?

Aggie, that text made me think of something we heard in the previews for next week. Not sure if previews are spoilers and what's allowed, so

someone (an other?) said "this is our island" or something like that. Right?

If previews are not spoilers, could someone set me straight? Thanks. Yes, I read the rules when I first visited, but I am not sure what rules apply in the webmaze.

[Lab]

Very nice aggie!

So this was today sometime right? I haven't been there yesterday or today (I'm slacking)

[ILoveEko]

Some people don't watch previews, but spoilers, I think, are pretty much fair game in the WebMaze. Considering the stuff we get from websites and whatnot. But it's always good to be safe :)
And I thought the same thing when I read it.

[aggiesean]

The source for all the lines in the new paragraph: THE KINKS. (aka, the band Charlie was singing from)

Feel those vibrations flow in my brain.
Keeps me sane.
I'm one of the survivors.
From "One of the survivors"

I'm on an island and I've got nowhere to run.
From "I'm on an island"

You think you need nobody to guide you, but you're still a long way from home.
from "A long way from home"

If you use a dream to change a mind, then imagination's real.
from "Imagination's real"

We were lost and found, and we beat the fear.
from "Lost and found"

We are the chosen people, give back our ... land.
from "Chosen people" (missing word=sacred)

Looking for ... child in the big black smoke, in the big black smoke.
from "Big black smoke" (missing word=her)

Walter, isn't it a shame the way our ... world has changed? But Walter, my ... , where are you now?
from "Do you remember Walter?" (missing words=little, old friend)

I just drift away to my island ... imaginary paradise, perfection.
from "Drift away" (missing words=in the sun)

But I gotta get the first plane home.
from "Gotta get the first plane home"

He's evil. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil.
from "He's evil"

And I agree, super, it does sound a lot like the preview. In fact, a lot of these, from 11 different sources, sound like things from the show. Think the writers are Kinks fans?

[supermodel]

Anyone figure out which song Charlie was singing? I like the Kinks well enough, but I'm no expert. My tastes run a little more towards alterna-country.

[ILoveEko]

That's kinda weird how one group has so many applicable songs, lol.

[agrillo]

Nice catch Aggie. Look at all the data a key member of the hWo keeps digging up. LOL

[ILoveEko]

yung, can you merge this with the official marvincandle.com thread, please? Thanks.

[Mystic-Flame]

Somebody sharpen this image it has some sort of text :
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/x2/agamess.jpg

[ILoveEko]

I don't have my program on here yet, but I can see that it says "Don't think of a ..."

[aggiesean]

I don't have my program on here yet, but I can see that it says "Don't think of a ..."
the main line reads "Don't think of a white bear." It's what Lars used to have as an auto-reply if you e-mailed him. I can't tell what's above "white" and below "bear" though.

[ILoveEko]

Thanks, aggie.
This still needs to be merged with your thread, lol.

[dogapeandman]

New invisi-text?
don't ingsk trust rossc

[ILoveEko]

Don't kings trust cross.

"Don't trust king cross", maybe?

[TheGuinea_Pig]

That would be my first assessment of it.

[TheGuinea_Pig]

tlaw.mp3 was there before and the other one sounds familiar


ETA: Yep, that was there before too.

[aggiesean]

Don't kings trust cross.

"Don't trust king cross", maybe?

That would make sense. They do have a....history.

They also got rid of the Freemason emblem.

No other changes to sites that I can find in the source, though.

[truffula]

More new invisotext.
Nothing really relevant, but I found it, so I'm reportin it. :)

nun de m'eon oligos te kai outidanos kai aeikes
phagedaina d'he mou sarkas esthiei podos

I'm one of the survivors. I'm on an island and I've got nowhere to run. You think you need nobody to guide you, but you're still a long way from home. If you use a dream to change a mind, then imagination's real. We were lost and found, and we beat the fear. We are the chosen people, give back our ... land. Looking for ... child in the big black smoke, in the big black smoke. Walter, isn't it a shame the way our ... world has changed? But Walt..., my ... , where are you now? I just drift away to my island ... imaginary paradise, perfection. But I gotta get the first plane home. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil.

[supermodel]

Haven't we seen that second paragraph in another thread? It's all lines from Kinks songs, sight?

The first part looks like Greek but I can't translate it.

ETA:
"Yet a man, small, worthless and unseemly"
"The tumor that is eating the flesh of my foot"
- Aeschylus

http://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/poetics.3.3.html

[SarahR]

Nothing much of overly exciting interest, but I stumbled on these - and apologise if they have already been mentioned, I did scan both documents posted at the beginning as well as the posts here:)

http://195.3566308/quackmcduck/abc/
"Dharma is watching"

http://195.3566308/quackmcduck/abc/x/
"Death is not the end"

http://195.3566308/quackmcduck/abc/y/
"THEY WILL BE BACK!"

http://195.3566308/quackmcduck/abc/z/
"SECURED WHEN ALL NUMB"

http://195.3566308/quackmcduck/abc/x2/
"17294535"

also I dont know if these have been reported here either

http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/z/dHaRmA.mp3
not much in the way of anything on this, a 4sec clip which sounds like could be morse code, but very short


http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/z/distresssignal.mid
more morse code, have yet to try and translate it but it does sound more than a repeatyed SOS but I may be wrong :P


http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/z/tlaw.mp3
(i know this one has been mentioned already)
5 secounds of scary lost type sounds


http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/z/it.mid
and again morse code!

may have a go at translating it later


xx Sarah

[aggiesean]

Thank you for pointing those out SarahR! I have those links, and they housed images before, but I guess I assumed that since the link didn't change, the content didn't change!

The first five links you posted are all different from what they were: updated in the last week.

The Dharma.mp3 file reads "DIE"
if you have any better luck checking resssignal.mid and it.mid, please let me know what you get; I cannot for the life of me translate audible morse code like that.

OOH! I recognized the number 17294535! At one point (possibly still) one of the morse code messages translated with an "iteration #######"...seven numbers that, using the 30-second iteration length, only added up to about 7 years. 17294535 breaks down to it playing for 16 years, 5 months, just like Sa'id said it had!

[glantern]

the main line reads "Don't think of a white bear." It's what Lars used to have as an auto-reply if you e-mailed him. I can't tell what's above "white" and below "bear" though.

There is a caption if viewed in Photoshop, "Don't think of it. Your own thoughts can destroy yourself."

[glantern]

Aggiesean,

I have a few additions to you marvincandle.com analysis. I came up with may of the same things, but have the following additions:

0061, 006C, 0076, 0061, 0072, 0020, 0068, 0061, 006E, 0073, 006F = alvar hanso (Unicode (Latin))

10, 5D, 11, 1H, 51, (http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/lost/hanso/) 9A, 23, 6R, 92, 4M, 65, 2A = DHARMA within the code (?)

64, 6F, 6E, 74, 70, 72, 65, 73, 73, 69, 74 = dontpressit (hexadecimal)

perdu is "Lost" in French

63, 61, 72, 72,6F, 74, 73 = carrots (hexadecimal)

Also, some of the other pictures have caprions when viewed in Photoshop:

edud has "Not a box company."

monddes has "What did one bunny do to the other bunny?"

The "Narvik" runes have "What the vikings knew may be valuable where you least expect it"

I hope this helps fill in some of the blanks...

[aggiesean]

Aggiesean,

I have a few additions to you marvincandle.com analysis. I came up with may of the same things, but have the following additions:

0061, 006C, 0076, 0061, 0072, 0020, 0068, 0061, 006E, 0073, 006F = alvar hanso (Unicode (Latin))

10, 5D, 11, 1H, 51, (http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/lost/hanso/) 9A, 23, 6R, 92, 4M, 65, 2A = DHARMA within the code (?)

64, 6F, 6E, 74, 70, 72, 65, 73, 73, 69, 74 = dontpressit (hexadecimal)

perdu is "Lost" in French

63, 61, 72, 72,6F, 74, 73 = carrots (hexadecimal)

Also, some of the other pictures have caprions when viewed in Photoshop:

edud has "Not a box company."

monddes has "What did one bunny do to the other bunny?"

The "Narvik" runes have "What the vikings knew may be valuable where you least expect it"

I hope this helps fill in some of the blanks...



Wow. Thanks glantern!

I'm not sure it fills in blanks for me as much as gives me more to confuse me about on this page. It's one of the most detailed, yet confusing, webmaze pages out there IMO. There is a lot crammed into a small space here, and making sense out of everything there is difficult.

I still love trying to answer the questions raised by it though!

[glantern]

Aggiesean,

I forgot one:

64, 68, 61, 72, 6D, 61, 69, 6E, 69, 74, 69, 61, 74, 69, 76, 65 = dharmainitiative (hexadecimal)

[JustJosh]

From the bottom of the http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/lost/hanso/ site:

I'm one of the survivors. I'm on an island and I've got nowhere to run. You think you need nobody to guide you, but you're still a long way from home. If you use a dream to change a mind, then imagination's real. We were lost and found, and we beat the fear. We are the chosen people, give back our ... land. Looking for ... child in the big black smoke, in the big black smoke. Walter, isn't it a shame the way our ... world has changed? But Walt..., my ... , where are you now? I just drift away to my island ... imaginary paradise, perfection. But I gotta get the first plane home. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil.

don't ingsk trust rossc

---

Have no idea what that last bit means. Seems like parts are missed out too.

Strange....

---

[aggiesean]

JustJosh,

Those were added a week ago. The paragraph is a collection of lyrics from "The Kinks" songs (check page 3 of this thread), and the last line reads "don't trust kings cross", a reference to KCSP.com of the Agents thread.

[JustJosh]

JustJosh,

Those were added a week ago. The paragraph is a collection of lyrics from "The Kinks" songs (check page 3 of this thread), and the last line reads "don't trust kings cross", a reference to KCSP.com of the Agents thread.

Ah yes sorry :-D Wasnt quite up to date with the thread :-)

Do the missing words spell out something?

[SanityAmongstChaos]

Good idea about the words. Here they are, in order:

sacred
her
little
er
old friend
in the sun

Notice some blanks have multiple words and one is only part of a word. No meaning jumps immediately to mind, but maybe someone else sees something.

[raiderfan43]

HMMM, that does look interesting, "sacred her"- we have all seen the references to the "Goddess" in BSS1, or could be "sacred her littler", referring to Clairs baby, or Alex, who was Danielles baby, "old friend & in the sun" could be something to do with the sunrise at midnight?? if combined, could be talking about the original incident
ETA: "sacred her little er" could also be referring to the Virgin Mary statues, they are kinda small after all

[JustJosh]

Good idea about the words. Here they are, in order:

sacred
her
little
er
old friend
in the sun

Notice some blanks have multiple words and one is only part of a word. No meaning jumps immediately to mind, but maybe someone else sees something.

Rearrange all the words maybe :S

Could get something to do with Sun? Maybe thats why the others are trying to kidnap her because they know something about her?

[aggiesean]

I guess my first thought for a "little old friend in the sun" would be Aaron. The fact that it's in Kinks lyrics makes me think it would be more Charlie-related, and he and Sun barely speak.

Or it could be a LOTR Hobbit reference.

[supermodel]

Or it could be a LOTR Hobbit reference

Once agin, aggie, you've blown the whole thing wide open. How do you do it?

[aggiesean]

Everything in the invisible text has now been removed except for:

Vi kan selv ændre odds for at få et længere liv. Andres unger, dine børn.

[ILoveEko]

That's the thing about like your kids, others children or something, right?

[glantern]

That's the thing about like your kids, others children or something, right?

I believe that a rough transation from (from Danish) is: "We can ourselves change odds that a longer life. Different youth, your child."

[Pox Aviator]

The Expression about other peoples kids and your children is often said in scandinavia when meaning that other peoples kids are doing all the bad things while your own children is like saints.
A suede like me.

[aggiesean]

The Expression about other peoples kids and your children is often said in scandinavia when meaning that other peoples kids are doing all the bad things while your own children is like saints.
A suede like me.

Welcome PoxAviator! You're referring only to the
Andres unger, dine børn.
right? I could see that connotation from the translation for this, but not from
Vi kan selv ændre odds for at få et længere liv.
The two phrases combined still are...well...kinda odd, right?

[Pox Aviator]

I would say that in translation to english the expression would be:
We can ourselves change the odds for having a longer life. Look to your own and not to others.

[Coconut]

Invisi-Text changed:



Vi kan selv ændre odds for at få et længere liv. Andres unger, dine børn.

Hostage syndrome


Edit: And this link is new too, I think--the "<" right before the 108 takes you to this crazy page that has some old invisi-text on it, Danielle's transmission, and some other stuff I think is new.

[ILoveEko]

New link:
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/lost/hanso/flashback.html

It seems to have some of the old inviso-text.

Brevis ipsa vita est sed malis fit longior. Ils sont tous morts. Aidez nous. Ils sont morts. 17294535.
He is outside please help us They are dead I'll try to go to the black rock He killed them all.
InfECTiON pRECedes UndOubTedLy / pURELy CoNDucT onE-SIded BenefIT / futility, obscured on dependence / despondency if obedient culture / superlenient of conceited buddy / furiously indebted, decent ponce / corpulent of nice, neediest buddy / buddy, poisoned fluent reticence / dubious, decrepit tendency felon / nice, unnoticed poetry befuddles /
It was a dark and stormy night. Behind the trees clouds scudded frantically across the sky. Every few moments the moon ripped through them... For long moments it gazed and ... remained motionless... saying to the other man: 'The poor misfortunate little bastard.' ..the question of the return of the dead in general ... in memory, of the friends little children had lost.
miyya thamanya egry besoraa Ma'assalama
We shall by morning inherit the earth. Our foot's in the door.
The skies shall roar with thunder and the earth shall heave, then darkness and a stillness like death shall come. Fires shall blaze out and death flood from the skies.
badloss
The tsom interesting gniht here t'nsi even eht carrot-munching tibbar in eht cage, tub the rebmun on its kcab. Not a six, ton a ruof, not evif-tniop-neetenin. It's na eight. Siht is tahw we're gnikool at, dna we lla see ti. I t'ndid tell uoy. You t'ndid ask em. I reven opened ym mouth dna you reven opened sruoy. We're ton even ni the emas year rehtegot, let enola the emas room . . . tpecxe we era together. Er'ew close. Er'ew having a meeting fo the sdnim.
nun de m'eon oligos te kai outidanos kai aeikes
phagedaina d'he mou sarkas esthiei podos

I'm one of the survivors. I'm on an island and I've got nowhere to run. You think you need nobody to guide you, but you're still a long way from home. If you use a dream to change a mind, then imagination's real. We were lost and found, and we beat the fear. We are the chosen people, give back our ... land. Looking for ... child in the big black smoke, in the big black smoke. Walter, isn't it a shame the way our ... world has changed? But Walt..., my ... , where are you now? I just drift away to my island ... imaginary paradise, perfection. But I gotta get the first plane home. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil. He's evil.

don't ingsk trust rossc
Dad?

[leleana]

Just so anybody who doesn't know Latin knows(unless its been invisi-text before, and in that case ignore me), the Latin says:

Life itself is short, but evil longer.
Or something to that effect. It could actually be "Life itself is short, but evil is much longer.", but almost the same meaning.

[rottenralf]

http://www.onentofl.com/images/bumpasaurus_1_.jpg

[rottenralf]

http://www.onentofl.com/images/Mr_20Bump_1_.jpg

[ILoveEko]

Aw, he's adorable!!! :p

[vodverino007]

alvar hanso is an anagram for lars navho

[SmOkEy]

OMG no way!!!!!!!! it cant be true!!!!!!!!! you are a genius Vodverino!!!!!!!!

[raiderfan43]

Actually, no it isnt, it IS an anagram for Lars navaho, but not navho, but good try!

[leleana]

MR BUMP! I loved those cartoons, ralf!

And yeaaah, old news about the lars navaho...

[Headsie]

The root website for marvincandle.com is this site
http://195.3566308/q%75%61%63%6b%6d%63%64%75%63%6b/abc/lost/hanso/

And I just found if you click on the > in the bottom right of the screen near the end of the text you go to a "hanso flashback" page.

[HalfRabbit]

EDIT - is this new.?

The very last link... the 8 of 108 now goes to a PDF about the "Stockholm Syndrome"

[aggiesean]

Since many of us have lately been wondering on the validity of webmaze webpages, I decided to do some checking on Marvincandle.com as well.

I considered trying to trace the e-mail address on the website, but as Lars only contacted me via stealthmessage.com, this wouldn't reveal anything. A whois search on marvincandle.com reveals a source in Tuvalu, but a site hosted on GoDaddy.com. Clearly faked.

However, in the main page's source code you see the page is truly housed on: http://195.3566308/quackmcduck/abc/lost/hanso/

It's clear this guy doesn't want you to search: both
http://195.3566308/quackmcduck/abc/lost/
and
http://195.3566308/quackmcduck/abc
read "Dharma is Watching", and
http://195.3566308/quackmcduck/
reads "DEATH"

The base page, http://195.3566308, redirects to
http://www.bredband.com/portal/PRIVAT_START
A friend of mine translated this as a Swedish broadband company's site. You can also see the same page at
http://www.bredbandsbolaget.se/portal/PRIVAT_START
(note the .se ending)

I may try writing "Lars" again, but this time not playing around, asking for the truth.

[glantern]

Everything in the invisible text has now been removed except for:

Vi kan selv ændre odds for at få et længere liv. Andres unger, dine børn.

I don't know how new this is, but below the Danish quote, there is "Hostage syndrome, see above." in hidden text.

Is this telling us to look more into the info found in the Stockholm Syndrome link?

[slavinder]

i'm new to this so i dont know if its already been said regarding http://www.marvincandle.com/ website, someone mentioned pressing on the comma under the 51, once thats pressed other numbers can be pressed, like 108 adn 8 amonglst others with strange pictures. pressing 74 takes you to http://www.cryonet.org/, and another goes to http://www.frimurer.no/ which is a bit random! also theres a link to oceanic flight 815 site
Any thoughts??

[WayOffCourse]

Slavinder,

Welcome to the webmaze. Since you posted your info in the right place, you must have done some investigation of our space already. If you skip back through this thread, you will find a pretty comprehensive assessment of what's been found. Post #1 will get you started with many of the links.

If you'd like to get oriented to the rest of the maze, refer to Truffula's maze guide stickied on the Spin-off and Webmaze forum. It will introduce you to all the other mazes going on down here.

If you have any questions, or would like to hang out, feel free to join us in the Boom Boom Room.

Welcome and happy hunting!

[Penelope]

the website is either temporarily unavailable or has shut down. can someone else confirm it is not my IE?

[Lab]

Works OK for me using Firefox, Pene. No noticable changes.

ETA: Works fine for me in IE, too. I don't know why you guys are having problems, Pene and trailgoat.

[trailgoat]

Pen, I haven't been able to load this site for about a month. It comes up "action canceled".

[rottenralf]

Bumping just in case.

[ILoveEko]

Site isn't official, so there's nothing special, but we always had fun with it, lol.

Anyways, according to the whois update I got for MC.com in my email the other day, the site has been renewed for another year, so mebbe we'll see the person update it again.

Oh, and rather than marvincandle on the page, it says, "dnumkciwkram". :p

[aggiesean]

Site isn't official, so there's nothing special, but we always had fun with it, lol.

Anyways, according to the whois update I got for MC.com in my email the other day, the site has been renewed for another year, so mebbe we'll see the person update it again.

Oh, and rather than marvincandle on the page, it says, "dnumkciwkram". :p
Um....I thought the name from "?" was "Mark Wickman", not Mark Wickmund.

:Cowdance:

[ILoveEko]

So did I, aggs. But I guess a bunch of slight variations were heard.

[aggiesean]

MarvinCandle.com appears to have now gone down. All that appears is a "This page is parked free, courtesy of Mad Dog Domains" page.

:Cowdance:

[ILoveEko]

Aww..

[ILoveEko]

Got this in an email today -
DOMAIN MARVINCANDLE.COM (http://marvincandle.com/) (Domain Tools) (http://whois.domaintools.com/marvincandle.com)
TYPE OF CHANGE
REGISTRAR

OLD VALUE
WILD WEST DOMAINS

NEW VALUE
NAMEKING

EXPIRATION 2007-10-25 changed to 2008-10-25

Whois now has Portfolio Brains, LLC in the registrant info. Portfolio Brains, LLC (http://portfoliobrains.com/) appears to acquire domain names... so I think it's safe to say this is definitely done for sure.