Was that Walt?

[Hodgepodge]

I'm sure there's a thread somewhere around here discussing this. Maybe a Mod can move and merge that/those threads into this one.

I'm puzzled about who Michael was chatting with on the computer. Was it really Walt? I found some dialog from The 23rd Psalm, I'd like to post. And get everybody's opinion.

MONITOR: Dad?

MICHAEL [typing]: Are you OK?

MONITOR: Yes. Are you alone?

MICHAEL [typing]: Yes.

MONITOR: Can't talk long. They're coming back soon.

MICHAEL [typing]: Where are you?

MONITOR: You need to com...What's got me worried is, where the Monitor asks a strange question. "Are you alone?" Why would it be important for Michael to be alone? Wouldn't Walt want as much help as possible to escape his captures? Wouldn't he want as many of the 815s to come to his rescue?

In The Hunting Party, Michael knocks Locke out. Locks both he and Jack in the safe. And takes off to find and rescue his son. Locke makes an interesting observation. He realizes Michael isn't heading back to the Tailies camp. He's heading in a whole different direction. It's obvious from the last Monitor statement, whoever that was, gave Michael a particular location. How would Walt know where he is? The only part of the island he's seen are the beach and cave encampments. What could he possiby tell his dad about his location?

Could this all be a trap? A trap to lure Michael away from the others, and to the "Others". Is Zeke having a time controlling Walt? Will Michael be away to force Walt to do whatever he's doing to help Zeke and his crew?

[I Sea U]

IMO, it was the others trying to lure another unsuspecting victim into their territory and taking them wherever they take them.

[sgtdraino]

Great points, Hodge. I didn't catch those details. I think you're right, it sounds like a trap.

But how about the first time Michael made contact with "Walt" on the computer? I think the first time might have been the real Walt.

[jereopaq]

Hey everyone, this is my first post but I've been here a while and I've read the whole guidelines thing. anyways......

I don't think Walt is on the island anymore. Zeke told sawyer/locke, etc in HUnting Party that Walt was safe and Michael wouldn't find them (zeke and company or Walt for that matter). Also, in the filmstrip its says that you shouldn't use the computer to talk to the outside world. So that gives credit to the hypothesis that the computer actually has the potential to communicate to the outside world. So lets say now that in Michael's first conversation on the computer it was Walt, but then the "others"(whoever you want to think that is at the moment) figured out that Walt was using the computer to communicate from somewhere off the isalnd because the Others are monitoring what is going on on that computer in the Swan. So at this point, the others usurp Walt's ability to communicate with that computer and thus in the second conversation Michael has on the computer, michael is actually talking with the Others. Actually my hypothesis is that there are 2 very distinct groups of the "others" and Zeke's group wants Walt for very specific reasons. Ethan's group of the "others" are more interested in other things. Zeke's group of the others probably want Walt for the potential he poses to predict unfortunate events. Although I just contradicted myself, because if Zeke wanted Walt for those reasons, then why take him off the island. Although on the other hand, he could have got Walt off the island because he didn't want Walt predicting/helping out the other Losties. Bottom line: Walt is NOT on the island!!! Whadaya think????

BTW, if Walt is off the island, he doesn;t know it. Therefore, if he is brought back to the island he will have never known he was gone.

[lauralegend]

Maybe.
I dont think they would do that though because everyone loves Walt and its such an interesting story line I reckon he is there...

[boonian androphile]

I think that Walt may have asked if Michael was alone because there may be spies. The adult Lostians may wander into stupidity but a 10 year old may have figured out that the raft probably had been scouted and tracked. Also, Walt might have remembered Ethan and all his (then known) mischief.

Walt also could be in another hatch or somewhere else all together, away from the main base of operations.

What sways me to the pro-trap side is Gorton's comments re Michael but I forget those comments exactly. Michael does look as though he has been in a trap, or a maze, in a cage, or simply on the run.

Who knows?

[Hodgepodge]

...What sways me to the pro-trap side is Gorton's comments re Michael but I forget those comments exactly. Michael does look as though he has been in a trap, or a maze, in a cage, or simply on the run.

Who knows?"Don't worry about Michael. He's not going to find us." I took this to mean. If Michael was standing on top of them, he wouldn't know it. Or, if we don't want him to find us, he won't. JMO!

So BA, you don't think Michael was released because the "Others" want non-Henry back?

[boonian androphile]

That's quite possible, Hodge. Fake Henry could be dharma's best secret agent. That he allowed himself to be captured may prove this---if he allowed himself to be captured, that is??? But to take an arrow for the team, Youch!

[Hodgepodge]

That's quite possible, Hodge. Fake Henry could be dharma's best secret agent. That he allowed himself to be captured may prove this---if he allowed himself to be captured, that is??? But to take an arrow for the team, Youch!That has always been my feelings as well. Plus, don't forget the beating he took from Sayid. But someone mentioned in another thread. "He/Him", needs that list!

[Hawkie]

MONITOR: Dad?

MICHAEL [typing]: Are you OK?

MONITOR: Yes. Are you alone?

MICHAEL [typing]: Yes.

MONITOR: Can't talk long. They're coming back soon.

MICHAEL [typing]: Where are you?

MONITOR: You need to com...

I don't trust that, if it really was Walt he would have used Text language such as "R U alone?" to save time.

Maybe, i dunno, just a suggestion.

[Hodgepodge]

...I don't trust that, if it really was Walt he would have used Text language such as "R U alone?" to save time.

Maybe, i dunno, just a suggestion.Don't know if I would bet the farm on this. The idea he'd ask the question, in any form, still doesn't make sense to me. Why would that be important? It would only be important, if it was fake, and you didn't want to convince someone other than an emotional father. JMO!

[azteclady]

I was wondering... you guys mention that Michael doesn't look like he was tortured or mistreted or whatever; is it possible that Michael has been wandering around looking for Walt? How long has it been, by the way, since he left, in island days that is?

[Hodgepodge]

I was wondering... you guys mention that Michael doesn't look like he was tortured or mistreted or whatever; is it possible that Michael has been wandering around looking for Walt? How long has it been, by the way, since he left, in island days that is?It was such a quick look AZ, I'm not sure what to think. It looked like he'd been running for awhile. All haggard. I'm not sure.

You do bring up a good point! That's something I forget sometime. We're not on the same time schedule. To answer your question, I'm not sure. Non-Henry said he'd been around for 4 days. Obviously he wasn't in the armory when Michael left. If I had to guess! Close to a week. JMO!

[azteclady]

Thank you, Hodge.

Okay, lets say that Michael has been gone for six to seven days. Given CGZMcG(copyright boonian androphile) (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12063)'s warning to Jack, Locke, Sawyer and Kate about not crossing the line, and the comment that Michael would not find them (CGZMcG (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12063) and his group of merry Others) unless they wanted to be found, I posit that it's possible that Michael has been chasing his own shadow the entire time.

Of course that would answer no questions on its own, but at this point, I don't see that TPTB are too concerned with answers, do you?

[boonian androphile]

Perhaps Michael's situation has and will have become similar to Locke's: the slightest clue, or misperceived clue, or fake clue (as in misdirection) will guide our heroes to their respective promised lands (so they both think). Both seem though to be going nowhere. At least I can believe in Michael's quest. He needs some rational minds to join him. What am I saying?! Just take the dog!:wolf:

[Hodgepodge]

Thank you, Hodge.

Okay, lets say that Michael has been gone for six to seven days. Given CGZMcG(copyright boonian androphile) (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12063)'s warning to Jack, Locke, Sawyer and Kate about not crossing the line, and the comment that Michael would not find them (CGZMcG (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12063) and his group of merry Others) unless they wanted to be found, I posit that it's possible that Michael has been chasing his own shadow the entire time...You maybe right AZ. But I got the impression TPTB wanted us to think he'd found something. Wasn't he carrying a lighted torch? Similar to the ones CDZMcG lit for their powwow in The Hunting Party?

[vincentstuntdbl#23]

It's hard to say if it was walt or not, but if it takes much longer to find him,Walt will be shaving and the writers will have a fun time explaining that!

[Hodgepodge]

I'd like to revisit this thread with what we've learned from Two for the Road. It seems like Michael may've been tricked into thinking Walt was on the other end of the computer. Still curious whether Walt is presenting a problem for them. That was the initial reason they tricked Michael. Then, took advantage of the situation and prompted Michael's help in retrieving non-Henry.

[boonian androphile]

Walt looked good after being held captive all year!!! by a bunch of ruthless automatons. I hope that Walt went out of his way to get after abduction detention in the quiet room or whatever it was called. I hope that he kicked his captors in the shins.:mad: