View Full Version : Why Must N00bs Announce Themselves?
korndiddy
03-03-06, 10:24 PM
There is nothing more iritating than Noobies who post for the first time and shout out to the world:
Hey!!! I'm new here! So, if I am a complete and total <snip> up, don't kill me :D . Anyway, [insert theory].
Btw, did I mention that i'm new!!!!! Hehehe. :goodvibes :thumbs_up. FIRST POST EVERRRRR!!!!! giggle
Edited for language. -TPTP
I personally find this kind of behavior to be completely irritating. :no-no:. Maybe I'm the only one, in which case I will shut up and return to my corner in shame. But if I'm not alone, then it is pretty clear what must be done. All N00Bs shall be destroyed!!!!
Also, list whether you guys announced your noobness way back when.
YouFirst
03-03-06, 10:32 PM
I voted no. It doesn't bother me when someone new marks their first post, but it does depend on how they do it. If they show they can at least use English correctly and don't mention 108/shark/purgatory, then it isn't a problem.
We were all new at some point. :)
I voted yes, because the extreme cases (like your example) annoy me, but it's not so much that it's the first post announcement, it's the "OMG, I'M LIKE SO NEW I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BUTTON IS TO TURN CAPSLOCK OFF!!!!1!!!! LOL!!!!1!!
korndiddy
03-03-06, 11:00 PM
I would also just like to state for the record that I am not against n00bs, I just don't care who is one. For those of you who insist on making formal announcments, congrats, welcome, but go get a pet or something. Cats are good listeners.
SonOfSawyer
03-03-06, 11:12 PM
Who the hell do you think you are !?
We are all noobs stop thinking your are better than anyone!
cc dude
03-03-06, 11:19 PM
Hey, this is my first time doing one of these poll thingys:Headbang: FIRST POLL EVER !!!!!!! I hope I did it right:p don't get mad at me if I screwed up. Well time to go do another poll.:Cowdance:
Noav Sigless
03-03-06, 11:26 PM
It annoys me because we have a sticky thread in GD just for that purpose. When a noob makes an introduction thread, it shows that they did not take the time to read the sticky threads. This means in the next few days, the same noob will start at least 5 threads all beginning with, "This may have been brought up before but.."
korndiddy
03-03-06, 11:26 PM
Hey, this is my first time doing one of these poll thingys:Headbang: FIRST POLL EVER !!!!!!! I hope I did it right:p don't get mad at me if I screwed up. Well time to go do another poll.:Cowdance:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Doesn't bother me at all, if anything I think its polite for people to do that. You wouldn't walk into a party full of people you don't know and not introduce yourself or say hello would you?
LostInWilderness
03-04-06, 12:08 AM
It doesn't bother me, but I never did it either.
Noav Sigless
03-04-06, 12:10 AM
Doesn't bother me at all, if anything I think its polite for people to do that. You wouldn't walk into a party full of people you don't know and not introduce yourself or say hello would you?
Do you also think it's polite to walk into a restaurant that has reserved seating, walk past the hostess and people waiting to be seated and grab the first table that comes open?
This means in the next few days, the same noob will start at least 5 threads all beginning with, "This may have been brought up before but.."
If I had $1 for everytime some person said those words, I'd own this forum. I swear.
I agree that it's the content of the first post that decides whether announcing it as a first post is annoying or not.
Yes, we were all newbies here once....some of us had that annoying "1" three seperate times. There is a difference between n00bs and newbies (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14527) though and their first post is how you figure which category they fall into.
I never announced my first post here, which was also done starting a thread at the same time. It was never moved, merged, locked, or otherwise touched by a mod/admin. It still exists here, in Lockes forum over a year later.....one of the few that survived the EZHack of 2005.
LostInWilderness
03-04-06, 12:28 AM
First posts are probably even more important than first impressions - at least if they're bad.
Nope doesn't bug. Let them integrate however they please....we all had to do it at some point I suppose.
i have to agree about metallica . i find it pathetic some people think they listen to metal because they like mefaggia
its kind of like moshing to nirvana
korndiddy
03-04-06, 04:35 AM
Who the hell do you think you are !?
We are all noobs stop thinking your are better than anyone!
Whoa, I think that you misunderstood me completely. For one, I don't think that I'm better than anyone on this forum. People here have amazing ideas. I just don't find it necesary that people announce their lack of experience upon entering. I don't care. It also takes me away from what they actually have to say because I get so caught up in the fact that they just wasted my time with completely trivial information.
Well, whenever I see a thread titled, "Hi, I'm new!" I just ignore it.
raven444
03-04-06, 05:27 AM
You're brand new. You're a nice person. You want to come across as a nice person, even though despite the possibility you might, there's a good chance of getting flamed for this or that. So you say 'hey, first time here, bear with me' off of pure anxiety of such anticipated responses. And how does the community respond? Putting up this pointless poll.
SonOfSawyer
03-04-06, 05:29 AM
:yeah:
cinderellabop
03-04-06, 05:58 AM
It annoys me because we have a sticky thread in GD just for that purpose. When a noob makes an introduction thread, it shows that they did not take the time to read the sticky threads.
Yes, that's it exactly. When I first came to the board, back in October 04, I read the sticky threads. I read the rules in the Welcome Forum. I read a whole lot of posts before I dared to make a post of my own. My first post was an answer to someone's question in Charlie's forum. A lot of people decide to jump in headfirst, when what they should be doing is testing the waters first. Read, look around, make sure you know what you're getting into. When you start a new job, you are given rules you're supposed to follow. When you join a club or organization, you read the by-laws to make sure you don't do something that could get you kicked out. Well, this is no different. There's a thread to introduce yourself, right there in GD. Many of our regulars like to read it and greet the newbies. There's no reason to start a new thread for it--it just means I have to merge it with the old one anyway. It comes off as an attempt to gain attention. And that doesn't impress anyone.
sonofethan
03-04-06, 10:44 AM
Everyone was in fact new once, and some people find it difficult to restrain themselves and 'be cool' when they are excited.
Personally I rarely get as excited as to raise my heartbeat marginally, but I will admit to making some schoolboy errors when I first got here (mainly posting subjects in the wrong threads, rather then the goofy intro used above).
You also have to remember some people will not only be new to the forum, but also to the format of message boards, So they may just dive straight in without reading the stickies.
I too find this irritating, but I can see how with a youthful exuberence it could happen.
Its our duty to give guidance to these new souls and nurture their thoughts.....
Who Knows one day they might post something deeply profound, that changes the world forever!
Unnamed Redshirt Number 4
03-04-06, 11:53 AM
I voted no. It doesn't bother me when someone new marks their first post, but it does depend on how they do it. If they show they can at least use English correctly and don't mention 108/shark/purgatory, then it isn't a problem.
We were all new at some point. :)
Ditto, YouFirst. Just announcing that it is their first post does not bother me (hell, I announced my first post). Saying, "Hello everyone! Long-time lurker, first-time poster. Love the forums!" doesn't bother anyone. It's when they rehash old theories, post in the wrong forum, talk in Netspeak, etc. that I get angry... and then it is because of those things, not because they announced themselves as new.
You're brand new. You're a nice person. You want to come across as a nice person, even though despite the possibility you might, there's a good chance of getting flamed for this or that. So you say 'hey, first time here, bear with me' off of pure anxiety of such anticipated responses. And how does the community respond? Putting up this pointless poll.
I think you need to go back and read my link about the differences between "n00bs" and newbies. It's the "n00bs" that are being referred to here, not the newbies. There IS a difference. "Hey, first time here, bear with me" is fine, the important thing is what follows.
Or, what URN4 said above. ^^^
sonofethan
03-04-06, 03:45 PM
There is an interesting Parellel between this Noobs debate and LOST.
Zeke put in no uncertain terms in 'The Hunting Party' that "This is our island, and the only reason you are still on it is because we let you" (sic).
The Noobs are a lot like losties and the others like the more experienced members.
The Others know the island and rules, wherea's the Losties wander around clattering into discoveries.
Hmmm....how ironic!
I'll add this note, and then I'll leave this thread alone.....for the time being. The majority of the people here have no problem with new posters, we welcome them actually. We're more than willing to guide posters in the right direction. I did this LONG before I was ever a moderator here, trust me. We don't expect new posters to know where everything is, that's just ridiculous. However, we do expect them to take a look around, read the rules, the Welcome forum, maybe perform a search or two before posting though. I don't think that's too much to ask, really.
If you're new here and you read/watch nothing else before you make your first post, make it this. (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=299737&postcount=1)
Also, it doesn't help when someone who's been here for about 5 minutes, tells a long time poster here they don't know what they're talking about and to shut up. Trust me, not only will it irritate the veteran poster, it's likely to hack the rest of us off as well. Just FYI. Just trying to help, that's all. Yes, I was there once too, I know what I'm talking about.
azteclady
03-05-06, 11:52 AM
Leuthen :flowers:
athywithak
03-06-06, 11:17 PM
:yeah: ...:Cheers: here's to Aztec n Leuthen
I don't mind when first posters say so, and I'm pretty sure that I did...but new threads...my least fav thing to read: "I didn't have time to read this thread but..."
korndiddy
03-06-06, 11:24 PM
Through reading all of these arguments, I have changed my view. I don't care when people briefly say, "this is my first post." Its more of the rehashed theories and not reading the rules and other posts before hand. I read these for a while before I decided to write back. And yes, my first post probably was stupid. So, I think that my little problem which spawned into this thread has been fixed. Thanks to all who argued against me.
tomwaghorn
03-08-06, 06:27 PM
its irrelevant information, everyone is a n00b at some point on the forum
AdamCrew
03-08-06, 09:49 PM
It's OK as long as it isn't the main point like this:
HI THERE!!!!1! FIRST POST111111 I CANT BELEEVE THIS I LOVE ET HTERE! GUESS WAT? I...
azteclady
03-08-06, 09:57 PM
Korndiddy, hat off to you for being big enough to rethink your position!
its irrelevant information, everyone is a n00b at some point on the forumActually, no.
All posters have been newbies at some point; the majority -thank all that's holy!- have been newbies for a while. Only a few were, are, and will forever remain, n00bs (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14527). There is a huge difference, by the way.
korndiddy
03-08-06, 09:57 PM
Korndiddy, hat off to you for being big enough to rethink your position!
Thanks, but I think that it is time to put this to rest. Nothing more can be accomplished here. Unless you guys think that some good can come from this, then feel free to keep it open.
pjdizzy
03-08-06, 10:08 PM
Could I please ask a question here? I actually asked this on another thread but then I lost it, and still cannot find that thread again!
pjdizzy
03-08-06, 10:12 PM
Hello? anybody out there? I have the worst luck. I always seem to finish reading threads right after everybody left. I am truly lost.
Noav Sigless
03-08-06, 10:12 PM
pjdizzy, click on your name in your post. A window will open with 5 options, click on "find more posts by pjdizzy".
It doesn't bother me if they feel the need to let the world know they're scared.Which is the reason why most do it.They just don't realize the posters here can kill you,but they won't eat you.
Desmond's Bunny
03-09-06, 04:20 AM
NO, newbies announcing themselves does not borther me at all. This is an entertainment forum. It's a community of people gathered together for fun -- just discussing a favorite television show. Why should a person, upon making an entrance NOT briefly introduce themself and say hello, before jumping in and contributing? Even though it is through the Internet, it is still a "social gathering" of some sort and there is certainly nothing wrong with friendliness. My 2 cents. :bunny:
rottenralf
04-29-06, 03:25 PM
Most newbies have been flamed elsewhere for just showing up. Announcing they're new helps guide them in the right direction in case they screw up unintentionally. Did you know the numbers add up to 108?
The_Island
04-30-06, 12:14 PM
why would it bother you? are people really that pissy?
RoseArienh
04-30-06, 12:22 PM
I don't mind knowing it's someone's first post. Cinderellabop's description I read the rules in the Welcome Forum. I read a whole lot of posts before I dared to make a post of my own. describes me perfectly. I think it's a sign of anxiety and an honest desire to "do it right."
Alostcause
04-30-06, 04:00 PM
When I was a noob, I didn't say that it was my first time 'cause it bugs the crap out of me!
Jeannie
04-30-06, 05:09 PM
It really doesn't bother me.
VeeAyetheCPA
05-01-06, 02:22 AM
I don't know why they think it is necessary -- anyone can see from your post count. But it's no where near as irritating as the "I haven't read the past 50 pages so I don't know if anyone has said xxxxx yet."
goAlvar
05-01-06, 07:50 AM
It can easily be understood from the postcount but i'm really annoyed when they say "I am too lazy to search" or "I won't read the first 20 pages".
mikashuman
05-01-06, 11:21 AM
Not that I ever have a "clue" as to what is going on....:rotfl: but I at least search.
Ellaroo
05-01-06, 12:23 PM
What are we actually voting for?
People who contribute to a thread and mention that they are new? No, that doesn't bother me.
Or people who start a thread to introduce themselves, or threadjack an exsiting one?
Or people who join up, don't search and just post their 'NEW' theory?
Or people who actually post their theory and admit they haven't searched or read back through the thread because they 'have better things to do'?
Either way, the last 3 amuse me. But that's probably because I don't have to tidy the place up. (And, I don't contribute in GD/T&S where I imagine they cause the most nuisance for regular/serious posters.)
ETA: Then there are those that don't bother posting and just send Spam PM's.
LostOnOahu16
05-01-06, 01:28 PM
Yes, that's it exactly. When I first came to the board, back in October 04, I read the sticky threads. I read the rules in the Welcome Forum. I read a whole lot of posts before I dared to make a post of my own. My first post was an answer to someone's question in Charlie's forum. A lot of people decide to jump in headfirst, when what they should be doing is testing the waters first. Read, look around, make sure you know what you're getting into.
That's what I did too. I visited this forum all of the first season, just lurking. Then when second season came around, I joined up and never had a problem. However, I never have any crazy cool theories to post anyway. ;)
And no, it doesn't annoy me if someone announces that they are new, so long as they keep it short, out of bold facing, somewhat gramatically correct, and devoid of OMGs or LOLs pertaining to their newbie-ness.
OMG im like neww her and this si my firs posst as u can clerly see on the side and3 can u belev that henry is not relly henryy LoL!!! They sooo shoud have seen that coming omg!!!!!!!!!!!!@%$@&%(
Gosh, typing like that was actually hard!
For the record, there are many good first time posters.
Lostaway
10-19-07, 11:09 PM
Hi first time poster!
...in this thread that is.
My name is Lostaway and I love lost, n00b, me never!?
I just enjoy the tad bit annoyance disrespectful of the boars <<< heheheh I spelled that wronmg>>>>>Is annoyed. >>>>>>>>>>>LAWL. Anyways I feel I will fit in well in this board. Or this thread. So i am going to pointlessly bump it up>>>>>to the first page.
BigJsCon
10-19-07, 11:29 PM
So, from this day forth noobs should be referred to as 'ballboys/girls'? And just go fetch a ball?:eek:
ONO!:Headbang:
Just out of blind curiosity what was your first post?:fear2:
Lostaway
10-19-07, 11:40 PM
So, from this day forth noobs should be referred to as 'ballboys/girls'? And just go fetch a ball?:eek:
ONO!:Headbang:
Just out of blind curiosity what was your first post?:fear2:
I really have not got a clue. Might of been in the Skate thread. Maybe.
BigJsCon
10-19-07, 11:48 PM
Sorry, I was bouncing the question back to mrs korndiddy.
My opinion and anyone can like it or not I really don't give damn, I'm not a NOOB or Newbie and if I were I still wouldn't give a crap because it's an internet forum not life or death to anyone here.
Many who lurk who have become first time posters have seen Newbies or low posters get eaten alive by vets. The freaking forum is free. How does that work? Advertisers help pay for space here, and why do they do that? Because people come here, they want hits, they want posters.
Many posters who venture into shark infested waters and get smacked down by snide "I'm so freaking superior" posters don't come back. Some of us would jump down the "I think I'm all that" poster's throat until they learn to keep it about the post not the poster, but that's rare.
Yes, true NOOBs, sick creeps and general pests should be taken out, they just annoy the hell out of everyone, but the majority of newbies are just nervous and often make mistakes.
Sure everyone who's been around awhile gets tired of the same old threads being started or the same question that's been asked a dozen times, but so freaking what, just move on to another thread.
tellthemmrekoletyoulive
10-20-07, 12:15 AM
^^^^Great!
Lostaway
10-20-07, 12:32 AM
Sorry, I was bouncing the question back to mrs korndiddy.
Sorry, I'm such a n00b.
BigJsCon
10-20-07, 12:40 AM
My opinion and anyone can like it or not I really don't give damn, I'm not a NOOB or Newbie and if I were I still wouldn't give a crap because it's an internet forum not life or death to anyone here.
Many who lurk who have become first time posters have seen Newbies or low posters get eaten alive by vets. The freaking forum is free. How does that work? Advertisers help pay for space here, and why do they do that? Because people come here, they want hits, they want posters.
Many posters who venture into shark infested waters and get smacked down by snide "I'm so freaking superior" posters don't come back. Some of us would jump down the "I think I'm all that" poster's throat until they learn to keep it about the post not the poster, but that's rare.
Yes, true NOOBs, sick creeps and general pests should be taken out, they just annoy the hell out of everyone, but the majority of newbies are just nervous and often make mistakes.
Sure everyone who's been around awhile gets tired of the same old threads being started or the same question that's been asked a dozen times, but so freaking what, just move on to another thread.
So?
Noobs are sick and make mistakes and should be taken out?
You're too smart to have misconstrued my point. If it's a tongue in cheek response, forgive me, I'm a very tired tonight, that's when I miss things.
My post was not aimed at anyone who posted in this thread, it was the title I noticed, I've watched too many new ones being shot down because they are simply nervous and announce they're new. To some who think the place belongs to them, that's like painting a target on their heads and saying "shoot me".
BigJsCon
10-20-07, 01:39 AM
You're too smart to have misconstrued my point. If it's a tongue in cheek response, forgive me, I'm a very tired tonight, that's when I miss things.
My post was not aimed at anyone who posted in this thread, it was the title I noticed, I've watched too many new ones being shot down because they are simply nervous and announce they're new. To some who think the place belongs to them, that's like painting a target on their heads and saying "shoot me".
Nothing personal you understand.
The way I look at it is this: noobys sbould be tagged as 'guests' till they get up to speed. Beyond that marker they should be treated as fairgame.
That's not at all what I was saying.
What I meant was new posters have to be given a chance without being devoured for making mistakes.
But, there are those posters who have mental or emotional problems who's purpose is not to participate but disturb everyone else.; and there are those who are just plain asshats who enjoy ruining the fun for everyone else. No one wnats any of those types around, because it's not about a matter of opinions but the personal issues the posters brings to the forum that really need to be dealt with elsewhere.
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