Please tell me they are not killing Sayid off ? [Archive]

moonshadow707

02-14-05, 11:27 AM

I don't know about rumors, but in the last couple weeks I have managed to convince myself that he's the one.:(
In fact, I was going to start a thread called "If Sayid dies, will you keep watching?"
Yeah, I've really managed to bum myself out about this.
I don't know if I'll care about watching anymore if there's a big Sayid-shaped hole in the show next season.
The only other characters I care about are Locke and Hurley, and I don't *love* them the way I do Sayid, if you know what I mean and I think you do.

ChewbaccasInnerWookie

02-14-05, 01:09 PM

Everyone saying that it's going to be Sayid has me MORE than convinced that it's NOT going to be SAYID!!

I'm firmly in the mind that it's either Kate, Locke or :::gulp::: or Sawyer.

I REALLY don't want it to be either Sawyer OR Sayid *love my redneck AND my roughneck*

But the MORE people are convinced it's going to be Sayid, the MORE I am convinced that it ISN'T going to be Sayid.

danke
dw-- (((hopes it's Kate or Locke.... they freak me out yall)))

Van Gogh 2001

02-14-05, 01:20 PM

I love Sayid (Naveen is the reason I watched LOST in the
first place), but I am convinced he is the one they are going
to kill off. I hope I am wrong.

However, there are several untouchables. The network is not
going to let them kill off the "stars" - Jack, Kate, Charlie
are not going anywhere. I doubt they get rid of Sawyer (love
triangle); they can't kill off the women, there are too few of
them on the island; they're not going to kill a child....

It only leaves a few options: Sayid, Locke, Hurley and Boone.
It makes me sick to think that Naveen is the only actor who is
living out of a hotel, instead of a house ... (makes me wonder
what he knows...); He also is an accomplished actor and makes more money than the actors who portray Hurley and
Boone, so if they are looking to save some cash....

I love Sayid, and the show will never be the same without him.

devenish

02-14-05, 01:45 PM

I just saw this thread and I had to comment
First of all If they kill off sayid the show would suck and I , along with the millions of sayidians would be soo depressed and maybe even go on strike, I hope he is not the one to get voted off the island I also hope its not sawyer cuz it would equally suck as well, I too luv me a redneck and a roughneck:b

may2

02-14-05, 02:08 PM

The Sayid character has so much more potential for future years. I hope they cack Boone instead.

I'm hoping they are trying to throw us off track by saying its Sayid.

Van Gogh 2001

02-14-05, 02:27 PM

I have thought Sayid is far and away the most interesting
character, but he is prime to be offed. I for one would lose
interest (I wouldn't stop watching, but I would not love the show any longer, that's for sure). Sayid is a great
character, and it's fantastic to see someone on television with his background NOT be the bad guy, but I have a real
bad feeling. Let it be BOONE.

vinnylover78

02-14-05, 07:53 PM

Here's my two cents: I don't truly believe it's Sayid. I know there are alot of rumors right now, and even if it is him, I REALLY believe they will bring his character back (or whomever it could be) next season by making it all a dream or something. I mean really, how stupid are these writers and producers. Not very, I would imagine. No matter who they kill off, there will be thousands of really ticked off fans. Why would they do such a stupid thing? I read on another board that Charlie would be the more likely guy, due to the fact that he may have alot of other movie rolls in the works, being that he has had so much success already. But what you said Van Gogh 2001 has me a bit worried. The fact that Naveen is still in a hotel. That is a good point. I will not be able to watch the show if they kill him off.
>:

Van Gogh 2001

02-14-05, 08:10 PM

Well, I am trying to remain calm and understand that some
people - and let's face it, Naveen is bohemian, might just
prefer living in a hotel ... I hope that is the case with him.
There's no way these producers/writers are going to knock
off Charlie (they don't want to lose all the viewers he brings in).... these guys are gonna make a lot of people angry no
matter who they kill ... so, they do have to make a decision
as to who it will be... and I am very worried. I just hope it
is NOT Sayid. I'm very happy that Naveen Andrews has got
this role, and I am not ready for it to end just yet.

Naveen, please be one of those people who just loves living
in a hotel! It is possible! :)

Cassis1

02-14-05, 10:35 PM

...I was the only one who'd managed to work myself into a funk about this.

Unfortunately I can't get the evidence to work out any other way. The show isn't going to get rid of Jack, Kate, Sawyer, or Charlie for marketing reasons, and of the remaining characters, the biggest emotional impact on the audience and emotional/practical impact on the castaways are both provided by Sayid. (Locke would be a major practical loss to the castaways, but with the exception of his acolytes Boone and Walt, none of the castaways would actually grieve for him. Sayid has been more integrated into the group in general, and he has friendships with Jack and Kate, the romance with Shannon, and the whatever-it-is with Sawyer.)

:(

And yes, I think it's significant that we haven't heard about NA buying a house in Hawaii the way everyone else has. (Sure, it could be because BH was in Canada with her series, but...). I hope it's because he's been aware from the first that Sayid was a short-term character. Not only is that a classier way to treat an actor, it would help convince me that JJA, DL, & co. have actually had some long-term plan from day 1. :rolleyes

If this happens, I really do think that the show will lose a lot of its interest and texture, for a lot of reasons. The ensemble is a lot more interesting and unpredictable with three alpha male types instead of the usual good guy/rebel guy. And of the three (and I love them all) I think that Sayid is the most complicated and tragic, so of course he'd be the one to go. I don't think I'll stop watching the show, but a lot depends on how the death is handled. If it's just shock value without emotion or consequences, it might be enough to ruin the show for me. I'm not entirely sure that JJA can deliver on that level--but on the other hand, he's got all those Angel writers now, and if there's one thing they knew how to do in the Whedonverse, it's give good tearjerker.

I want my "Beyond the Sea" montage. Dammit. :(

vinnylover78

02-15-05, 01:11 AM

I'm just not buying it...not yet.>D

moonshadow707

02-15-05, 01:26 AM

Here are my thoughts on this:

1. I previously thought Sayid was safe because there was not another backstory for him scheduled this season, and there are too many unanswered questions about him for the writers to kill him off. (How'd he get out of the Republican Guard? How did he know Nadia was dead? What was he doing in Sydney and why was he on the plane?) Then I found out they added two more episodes, and one of them IS Sayid-centric. The next-to-last one, I think. THIS scares me... if they answer those questions, they are then free to let him go.

2. The romance with Shannon deal. I know there are those who think they are the "cutest couple ever". (:x bleah)
IMO, for someone as intelligent as Sayid to fall for someone like Shannon is improbable. So why would the writers do it?
Possible partial answer: Gotta have the sexy guy involved in a romance before he's gone.

3. Jack/Kate/Sawyer: the writers will drag this triangle out as long as possible. They are safe, at least until next season.

4. Charlie: hobbitguy is safe. JJ has already said that Charlie will not die, at least as long as Dom wants to continue.
(Grrr...*shakes fist at JJ, who is apparently afraid of the Dom fangirls*)

5. JJ said it will be "someone [we're] invested in". Boone, Michael, Walt, Jin... in all honesty, and no offense intended to the actors or their fans, would any of them be really missed? Not enough shock value, I think. I hope I'm wrong.

6. Any of the women? No. Already an unequal ratio of women to men on the island. Again, I hope I'm wrong. (dieShannonDIE)

*Ahem* Sorry...

7. Hurley: I think not. Needed for comic relief. And everybody loves Hurley.

8. Locke: a possibility. It could be that I'm desperately looking for an option here... and I'd sacrifice Locke for Sayid in a heartbeat, if given a choice. (Sorry Terry!)

So yeah... I hope to God I am wrong and that the writers throw us a major curveball. But I'm pretty worried about our favorite Iraqi. :(

squirlymonaghan

02-15-05, 02:41 AM

on one of the ET clips he said that he stayed in a hotel for 4 months but finally moved into a house....

so I'm pretty sure he's not in a hotel anymore

Coulrophobic421

02-15-05, 03:38 AM

and if there's one thing they knew how to do in the Whedonverse, it's give good tearjerker.

And bring characters back from the dead. So going by that, death is not necessarily permanent. I just hope they don't do some weird dream thing a la Dallas.

Whatever the case, I sincerely hope they don't kill off Sayid. If they get rid of anyone, it should be Boone. He's basically worthless.

Cassis1

02-15-05, 03:46 AM

And bring characters back from the dead. So going by that, death is not necessarily permanent

JJA is pretty darn good at the Lazarus game himself. So there's hope on that front too.

Whatever the case, I sincerely hope they don't kill off Sayid. If they get rid of anyone, it should be Boone. He's basically worthless.

Which is exactly why Boone will live. They need him around to endanger every person with whom he comes in contact (and unfortunately, thanks to Shannon, Sayid is one of those people). Betcha that a Boone screw-up in some way, shape, or form leads directly to the big bucket-kicking.

vinnylover78

02-15-05, 09:40 AM

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I agree with that, but if it means bringing back our Sayid, I'm all for it. You guys are bringin' me down I tell ya!!:rolleyes

Van Gogh 2001

02-15-05, 01:06 PM

What date is the ET clip from where he said he moved into
a house finally? Because I am pretty sure in the Jan. People
magazine he still had not moved into a house. I hope he
just likes living in hotels. Some people do. I will still watch,
but it would just not be the same to me.

Cassis1

02-15-05, 05:07 PM

By the way, Moonshadow, I'm with you on the Shayid thing. It's just moving way too quickly for this show, and with too little conflict. Even if we ignore how unlikely it is that, after seven years pining for heroic Nadia, Sayid would be instantly infatuated with a snarky blonde sociopath with a nice singing voice, we'd expect some conflict between two hot-tempered, strong-willed people of such different backgrounds. Instead it's been all sweetness, flirting, and melting looks--which is cute, even I will admit, but bodes ill. Charlie and Claire had a similarly unimpeded road to romance in the first ten eps, and look what happened to them.

squirlymonaghan

02-15-05, 05:44 PM

I am not at my other computer but if I remember right the ET clip was only from a few weeks ago....

Van Gogh 2001

02-15-05, 07:36 PM

I hope you are right about the hotel, but he was at the hotel
longer than just four months. Until January at least (if
People was accurate) he was still in a hotel and that was longer than four months. Still, the hotel isn't the only reason I think he is going to get offed. (It was just a theory of mine).
He could live in a hotel and NOT be the one killed off or finally have moved to a house and still be the one killed off.

I think a lot of factors point his way. I can't tell you how wrong I hope I am. It's been great to see Naveen get such a high profile gig, and his character is just so interesting, I
really will miss him if he is the one they kill off. I find it so
upsetting I think all kinds of nonsense .... like I know they are trying to "cut costs" and his salary is more than a lot of the other actors on the show (the younger ones) ....lol, all kinds of nonsense goes thru my head.

SAVE SAYID!:hat

scatcat67

02-16-05, 01:01 AM

NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! Not Sayid!!!!!! But y'all do have a point, I mean, who is 'invested' in Shannon or Boone? I think either one of them kicking it would cause a huge board wide party.:lol We all love Sayid, want to know more, and I think want to see him get off the island with the rest, except for shannon, who needs to disappear.

SAVE SAYID, KILL THE RASH MAN!

moonshadow707

02-16-05, 02:21 AM

Cassis1 - "snarky blonde sociopath with a nice singing voice".
Haha. I prefer "lazy self-centered manipulative bitch" myself.
Oh, and yes, with a nice singing voice.

devenish - "Sayidians" made me chuckle. Sounds like we're from the planet Sayid. Or members of a cult.

We could go over to The Fuselage and post this to the writers:
"We are the Sayidians. We come in peace. But we must warn you - if you bring any harm to our supreme potentate Sayid, we will hunt you down to the depths of hell and back again. And then we will hurt you with our pointed sticks." :evil

Worth a shot? :D

vinnylover78

02-16-05, 09:45 AM

That is a good one moonshadow707.

I AM A PROUD SAYIDIAN!!:rollin

Van Gogh 2001

02-16-05, 01:07 PM

Moonshadow, that is a GOOD ONE! Thanks for the laugh, I
really need it when thinking depressing thoughts of a
Sayid-less island... LOL, U R funny!:)

vinnylover78

02-16-05, 10:18 PM

cygnet31

02-17-05, 07:15 AM

I keep reading that it is "one of the BIGGEST characters" that will die. We all know Sayid is a very loved and swooned over character, but the "BIGGEST" one? I'm really doubting is will be him.

I was thinking the same thing. To my mind a BIGGEST character would imply either Sawyer, Jack or Locke.

Personally my money is on either Locke or Jack. It would make life on the island even more interesting if either the de facto leader of the group or the main survivalist character died. But again this is JJ so who really knows?

Dogar230

02-17-05, 11:12 AM

I'm sad to agree with those who think Sayid will get killed off. Despite the fact that he's a nice character he really doesn't add anything to the group dynamic. In many ways he's just a more impulsive, less morally constrained version of Jack: He's a compassionate guy and a good leader but we already have these qualities in the main alpha male character. My bet is that the upcoming Sayid episode will be to tie up his loose ends and give him some closure before sending him to the clearing at the end of his path. :(

Van Gogh 2001

02-17-05, 01:09 PM

I don't agree that Sayid doesn't add anything to the situation...when I say I think he will be offed, it has more to do with how things run both in the business, etc. (ABC is NOT
going to let them kill off Jack or Kate. That would really surprise me....both those actors are the ones that ABC uses
a LOT with the press, etc. They're not going to off them).
Many of the other characters just aren't used enough on the show to have any impact if they were offed.

I think Sayid is one of the great characters anywhere on any
show - we've never really seen anyone like him. I HOPE I am
wrong, and after last night's show, I am beginning to wonder
if they're not going to off Sawyer ... which makes room for
the Kate/Jack relationship to move forward. I don't want anyone to be killed, but REALLY hope it is NOT Sayid, my
favorite.

squirlymonaghan

02-17-05, 07:52 PM

but also speaking of how the business works...aren't networks in hot water over how muslims are portrayed...
I don't think abc would want to ride in that boat...so would they let the iraqi character who happens to be seen in a nice light get killed off?

thats part of why I am not exactly in the "they are gonna kill sayid group"

but at the same time...they really could....but I like him too much to even think it...

Van Gogh 2001

02-17-05, 08:16 PM

That is the one thing he has going for NOT getting killed,
that the networks need to be positive when it comes to
an Iraqi character. (altho I don't watch "24" and somebody
said they dont seem to care about that subject). After last night's ep, I think it's pointing to Sawyer ....

ANYONE BUT SAYID!!!!
This is such a great role for Naveen, and other than my selfish reasons for watching him, I'd like to see him get some mileage out of this role before he moves on to another one.

ANYONE BUT SAYID!!!!

SAVE SAYID!!!

LadyDragonair

02-21-05, 07:35 PM

I hope they do not kill him either. He is my favorite and I do agree that portraying him is a good light will be a reason they shouldn't get rid of him.

Cassis1

03-31-05, 08:42 PM

So, Boone didn't die.

Crap.

This is looking soooooooo bad. :( :( :( :(

azteclady

03-31-05, 09:09 PM

Cassis, you just made me laugh. Thank you!

Beto
see my sig? is there for a reason!

devenish

04-01-05, 01:48 AM

lol me too

Cassis1

04-01-05, 03:28 PM

Fine, you may laugh. ;)

But I am very worried. Sigh. Boone was my last hope! ;)

devenish

04-01-05, 10:28 PM

yea me too, but hey maybe they will will have this big twist and maybe it's claire who'll die givin birth or somethin

Van Gogh 2001

04-04-05, 01:39 PM

I wish NO character was going to die, but if they kill of
Sayid, I will die!

Cassis1

04-04-05, 01:54 PM

Van Gogh, don't get me started on how flat-out STUPID it is to needlessly kill one of the main characters in the first season. JJA/DL & co. may have planned last summer to write an action-packed, plot-driven adventure series with as many casualties as Murder, She Wrote, but that ISN'T the show they ended up writing. It's a character-based drama and ALL the characters have a lot of story left to tell. It's wasteful to kill one off merely for shock value, especially since no one will be shocked, since we've been speculating for the past six months. I don't even like Boone and I was sorry to be wishing for his lungs to fall out last week--but since it's between him and Sayid, needs must. >:

devenish

04-04-05, 04:09 PM

I dont really want anyone to die, but hey if its between boone and sayid , boone has got to go, It kills me to see boone suffering its so sad.

Van Gogh 2001

04-04-05, 05:26 PM

I agree, I don't want any of them offed. They all have a lot
more potential in terms of backstories. But I can't stomach
the thought of it being Sayid. In addition to really really
REALLY loving his character, I am also personally happy for
Naveen to have such a role. If he can continue on this series,
better roles will be offered to him in the future as well. I wish
they didn't off anybody. But if somebody has to go, let it
be Boone, NOT Sayid.

SayidRocks

04-05-05, 11:57 AM

> Van Gogh, don't get me started on how flat-out STUPID it
> is to needlessly kill one of the main characters in the first
> season. JJA/DL & co. may have planned last summer to
> write an action-packed, plot-driven adventure series with
> as many casualties as Murder, She Wrote, but that ISN'T
> the show they ended up writing. It's a character-based
> drama and ALL the characters have a lot of story left to
> tell. It's wasteful to kill one off merely for shock value,
> especially since no one will be shocked, since we've been
> speculating for the past six months. I don't even like Boone > and I was sorry to be wishing for his lungs to fall out last
> week--but since it's between him and Sayid, needs must.

Personally I don't at all disagree with you on it being stupid. I've been discussing some of this stuff with a friend off these boards who is also into 'Lost'. She agrees that all of the characters could believably survive, but then again, we don't know what the producers/creators/writers really had/have in mind.

It is wasteful, I agree with that also. But consider this, *we've* been speculating for six months; us on these boards and others and via e-mail and all. However, as rabid as 'Lost' fans have turned out to be, I would venture to say that the majority have not ventured on to these boards and done much speculating with other fans. The internet is far reaching, but not everyone partakes of these boards and all for the shows they watch. I would venture to say further that those of us doing all of this speculating and such are probably actually in the minority of fans of the show.

It took me a while to start watching 'Lost', and then it took a while longer to get on these boards.

Cassis1

04-05-05, 02:23 PM

But consider this, *we've* been speculating for six months; us on these boards and others and via e-mail and all. However, as rabid as 'Lost' fans have turned out to be, I would venture to say that the majority have not ventured on to these boards and done much speculating with other fans. The internet is far reaching, but not everyone partakes of these boards and all for the shows they watch. I would venture to say further that those of us doing all of this speculating and such are probably actually in the minority of fans of the show.

I agree with you--the Net is such a tiny, tiny percentage of the viewing audience (Lost pulls in, what? about 15 million viewers and the combined membership of Lost-TV and the Fuse is about 15 THOUSAND, with a lot of overlapping). BUT JJA and DL and the cast have been talking about the death in plenty of non-Net print venues too, including TVGuide and (I think) Entertainment Weekly, both of which have a circulation in the millions. Even Jane and Joe Shmoe who only tune in if they don't like who's singing on American Idol know there's a death coming up, and having had months and months to speculate have probably flipped through the possibilities in their brains.

I just think that whoever it is, at this point, will not be a real shock to most of the audience (exception: if TPTB flat-out lied and it's Charlie)--and if doesn't otherwise serve the story, what's the point?

I think that TPTB have used the death as a distraction; people concentrate on figuring that out and worry less about the fact we have gotten no friggin' answers (to quote Hurley) about any of the island mysteries. I call it "bread and circuses" writing--they think that if they throw someone to the lions for us we'll be good little plebians and not think too hard. And I resent it. >: (but also :lol )