ALL-US Real Coordination Thread [Archive]

foxxie

05-02-06, 01:58 AM

This thread is for all physical clues to be found in the US. I will update it as clues are found.

Current team member are myself, Dragon,spuff, see you in the next life, Mr.33, and Brad. Please PM me or post on this thread if you would be willing to look for clues as the need arrises. I have a feeling we may need more than three people LOL!

Update 5/9/06-Newpaper adds were placed in Boston Globe, Philidelphia Daily News, Philidelphia Inquirer,San Fran Cronicle, LA Times, and Chicago Tribune. . It is confirmed that no add was placed in the New York Times, Washington D.C. paper, or the Indianapolis Star. The add was from Hanso and referenced Bad Twin. Here is a link to TI's post which has the add http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=587048&postcount=75
Here are links to Truff's actual pictures from the Philidelphia papers. Thanks Truff!!
Inquirer closeup
http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/7...ure00112hw.jpg (http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/7513/picture00112hw.jpg)
Inquirer full
http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/7...ure00211ra.jpg (http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/7207/picture00211ra.jpg)
Daily News
http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/6...ure00317ff.jpg (http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/6...ure00317ff.jpg)

Update 5/10/06-Newpaper adds identical to the ones above were seen in the New York Times and the Washington Post.

Frapper map(thanks to super!): Join the international team by adding your location to the Frappr map!
http://www.frappr.com/owaflight213 (http://www.frappr.com/owaflight213)

foxxie

05-02-06, 04:26 AM

Reserved

foxxie

05-02-06, 04:27 AM

Reserved 2

foxxie

05-02-06, 04:29 AM

Reserved 3

foxxie

05-02-06, 04:29 AM

Reserved 4

foxxie

05-02-06, 04:30 AM

Reserved 5! And now to bed!

fancyfuchs

05-03-06, 12:34 AM

Hi everyone,

I was walking to go get lunch today at a building near the university of minnesota and in saw this.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b218/Fancyfuchs/LOST%20stuff/Dharmasymbol1.jpg

Now, as much as I would love for it to be a real clue for the show I think its a bit of a strech. Never the less I think it still should be put up just in case cause if it is real then we might have a jump on the game before it starts. Here are more pictures.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b218/Fancyfuchs/LOST%20stuff/Dharmasymbol2.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b218/Fancyfuchs/LOST%20stuff/Dharmasymbol3.jpg

I looked up the geo coordinates. they are:

Address: 825 washington ave se, minneapolis MN, 55414

Latitude: 44.973665, N44, 58' 25.2"

Longitude: -93.226656, W93, 13'36.0"

The symbol,picture looked old, like it had been there for a while. It was coverd with dust and i think it was made out of wood, the center part being a mirror reflecting across the hallway. The store it was over was vancant and looked like it used to be bar or pizza place called perrys.

Agian, I would be kinda suprised if this came out to be a real clue but I thought it was worth posting.

Hope the pictures arent to big and feel free to delete this if you wanna make more room.

Thanks, and WEBMAZERS HO!

Fancy.

rottenralf

05-03-06, 12:39 AM

Fancy - I'm glad you found it, it might be nothing or it might be exactly what we need, good job.

foxxie

05-03-06, 12:45 AM

Thank Fancy!!!! Awsome find, related or not!

PandoraX

05-03-06, 01:11 AM

fancy, sorry to break it to ya, but that's not significant. The bagua is a popular symbol used in Taoism, a chinese faith that was popular long before the show came out. The place you're looking at is just getting setup for a chinese take out restaurant, and what you're seeing is just the Early Heaven arrangement of the bagua, which is another arrangement that predated the King Wen version, which was used for the show. See jaystao's mysticism thread for more, jmberger can explain this to you about the difference of the two baguas.

Nothing to do with the show. I think the restauranteurs will be glad for the free advertizing, though. :)

Staypuff

05-03-06, 01:41 AM

I just think it's cool we have someone in Minneapolis! I can only help out in the Southeast.

fancyfuchs

05-03-06, 03:09 AM

YTa I figured it wasent part of it. I also know how common it is so when I saw it I wondered. Thanks for the comments, and again, if u need room, delete it.

Fancy

rottenralf

05-03-06, 03:22 AM

Fancy - Still need to give you a pat on the back for a good try. And it is better to bring it up so we can discount it than have it linger that it might be important.

hefty244

05-03-06, 03:22 AM

This may also be nothing, but the post here (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18419) says the following:
________________________________________
Since the UK phone call references Geronimo Jackson and their album Magna Carta, I thought I would post this info from the site (before it went down a few weeks ago).
Macna Carta cover shoot, outside Nashville,TN.
We are currently in the studio recording new tracks for our upcoming self-titled EP.
A Brief History
"Geronimo Jackson" was formed on the University Of Michigan campus. Our first album "Macna Carta" was released by a tiny independent label; so if you haven' heard of us, it's okay! We are trying to get the rights back to make the album available as part of our current project.
The Geronimo Jackson "Sound" was a reflection of our times, somewhere between Zepplin and 3 Dog night. Trippy pop grooves with a tad of pre-disco funk. Our new songs will show that, while we all went on to pursue more down to earth endeavors, we continued to grow musically.
Keep checking back for updates! We are hoping to be able to offer a few tracks from "Macna Carta" that wound up on the cutting room floor!

Just wanted to let you know I am in Nashville and will be willing to help out should it be needed!

(:D yeah first post!!!)

ILoveEko

05-03-06, 03:30 AM

Welcome to Lost-Tv and the Spin-Off's/Webmaze hefty! http://72.9.235.11/~jfiles/bork/chat/images/smilies/wave.gif
Stop by the Boom Boom Room if you have anything questions or just want to get to know everyone!

And boost your post count...;):p

[/end semi-threadjack]

Lab

05-03-06, 03:33 AM

Welcome hefty244 to LOST-TV and the Lost Webmaze!

Glad your with us. Stop by the Boom Boom Room Webmaze Lounge (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12123) if you would like to chat with some of the other posters.

Look around the forums, make yourself comfortable.

This Lost Experience is just getting started, so your jumping in at a perfect time!

lostscape

05-03-06, 08:35 PM

This may be a real clue found here

http://thelostexperienceclues.blogspot.com/2006/05/clue-14.html

Clue # 14

If you put in DK-1604 (the postcode of the address of their supposed offices) into Google earth, you go to the Denmark Embassy in Washington.

6 Comments:

PatrickPrice (http://www.blogger.com/profile/23730198) said... I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but if you click on the "Board of Directors" link on the Executive Bios page, you come across a login screen, anyone know the login name and password yet?
Wednesday, May 03, 2006 (http://thelostexperienceclues.blogspot.com/2006/05/clue-14.html#114667918134088487) ambersumiko (http://www.blogger.com/profile/17477274) said... No, but I hope someone gets it soon!
Wednesday, May 03, 2006 (http://thelostexperienceclues.blogspot.com/2006/05/clue-14.html#114667988506922505) Manchot (http://www.blogger.com/profile/23733249) said... I just noticed that there is a spot on the lower left-hand corner on the screen which you can click on to change the background lights. Weird...
Wednesday, May 03, 2006 (http://thelostexperienceclues.blogspot.com/2006/05/clue-14.html#114668304448266843) Alan (http://www.blogger.com/profile/2607582) said... This post has been removed by the author.
Wednesday, May 03, 2006 (http://thelostexperienceclues.blogspot.com/2006/05/clue-14.html#114668318212625824) Klaus (http://www.blogger.com/profile/2607582) said... if you put in the full address its in the same district in copenhagan as the Economic Council of Denmark so i assume its a business district
Wednesday, May 03, 2006 (http://thelostexperienceclues.blogspot.com/2006/05/clue-14.html#114668325669614168) ambersumiko (http://www.blogger.com/profile/17477274) said... I'm trying to find the address on those 2 letters..

Rue Grand 1623
1221 Geneva 27
Switzerland

I Googled it and found a dept.

Scientist Departments of Mental Health and Substance Dependence, and Health Care for Chronic Diseases Noncommunicable Diseases and Mental Health World Health Organization 20, Avenue Appia CH-1221 Geneva 27 Switzerland

I mean.. it goes along nicely with everything.. mental health, chronic diseases etc.
Wednesday, May 03, 2006 (http://thelostexperienceclues.blogspot.com/2006/05/clue-14.html#114668562481009077)

ETA: Pic
http://img271.imageshack.us/img271/4029/googleearthimage4aj.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://imageshack.us/)

SM: Yes, but it is listed prominently on a letigimate source of clues. Go figure.
WHO LIVES IN WASHINGTON DC?

http://www.frappr.com/owaflight213

supermodel

05-03-06, 08:38 PM

Wow, an embassy would be a really bad place to place a clue in post-9/11 America.

see you in the next life

05-03-06, 08:45 PM

Mental Health World Health Organization 20, Avenue Appia CH-1221 Geneva 27 Switzerland

Same address, more or less, as the original 19 September memo from GHO to Hanso regarding the meningococcal outbreak.

see you in the next life

05-03-06, 08:46 PM

By the way, I'll be glad to volunteer as a member of this team. My online time is primarily 8 a.m. until 4:30 p.m. EST

LAN

05-03-06, 08:49 PM

Wow, an embassy would be a really bad place to place a clue in post-9/11 America.

kind of like...oh i dont know.....AN AIRPORT. props to VM

lostscape

05-03-06, 09:12 PM

Wow, an embassy would be a really bad place to place a clue in post-9/11 America.

So, Supermodel, does that mean you don't feel like making a road trip to DC? You are pretty close!!

truffula

05-03-06, 09:54 PM

Wow, an embassy would be a really bad place to place a clue in post-9/11 America.
I have to agree here. I don't think ABC would be as bold as to try to place clues in locations like that (govt bldgs/airports/etc).
I wouldn't look for clues IN the building, but if there are BILLBOARDS anywhere near....;)

WASTE

05-03-06, 09:55 PM

The CTV broadcast of LOST is on in an hour. If we get the commercial (which I assume will be the same as the US) I'll post here immediately.

theidofbrad

05-03-06, 09:57 PM

Well if any of the clues manage to pop up in podunk louisiana (I know I know, that's kinda redundant) I'll be more than happy to go visit them and take pictures.

truffula

05-03-06, 10:02 PM

The CTV broadcast of LOST is on in an hour. If we get the commercial (which I assume will be the same as the US) I'll post here immediately.
AWESOME!!
Thanks WASTE!! :D

:hyper:

steeeb

05-04-06, 12:07 AM

how long left?

see you in the next life

05-04-06, 12:12 AM

RAAAAAAAH!

48 minutes

some amazing things tonight, believe me.....it won't be easy to get on the board tomorrow!!!!

steeeb

05-04-06, 12:13 AM

good job ill have it all on my blog then :D

supermodel

05-04-06, 12:31 AM

no 'scape, I am totally up for a trip to DC. I have plenty of PTO banked...

steeeb

05-04-06, 01:21 AM

any word yet?

the_arbiter

05-04-06, 01:24 AM

any word yet?

I dont think they are going to post here......

Something about a US-TV Thread??? But i cant find it??:ImLost:

steeeb

05-04-06, 01:36 AM

somehow.. i dont think your getting an advert :(

the_arbiter

05-04-06, 01:39 AM

somehow.. i dont think your getting an advert :(

They got time...............:)

steeeb

05-04-06, 01:41 AM

yup, 15mins hehe might be at the end or something?

SonOfSawyer

05-04-06, 01:42 AM

I have seen lost on CTV and no "special commercial" :(

the_arbiter

05-04-06, 01:43 AM

yup, 15mins hehe might be at the end or something?

Thats what im thinkin........... i mean they put our add at the start.....why not put the US add at the end?

foxxie

05-04-06, 01:45 AM

Thats what im thinkin........... i mean they put our add at the start.....why not put the US add at the end?

because they want to make us suffer! I think it won't be until the end.

steeeb

05-04-06, 01:48 AM

funny if you dont get a clue.. or its stupidly randomly hidden somewhere in the episode.. well no.. it wouldnt be funny actually

the_arbiter

05-04-06, 01:50 AM

funny if you dont get a clue.. or its stupidly randomly hidden somewhere in the episode.. well no.. it wouldnt be funny actually

Was it not in the press release that the UK would get the first clue on the 2nd and the maze would continue on the 3rd with the US episode?

steeeb

05-04-06, 01:51 AM

It said it would begin in the UK on the 2nd, America on the 3rd and Austrailia on the .. 4th or 5th, cant remember.

Penelope

05-04-06, 01:53 AM

1 877 -hansorg
its a hanso ad

supermodel

05-04-06, 01:53 AM

1 877 hans org

the_arbiter

05-04-06, 01:53 AM

So the US must be gettng a clue??

Lab

05-04-06, 01:53 AM

1877HANSORG

the_arbiter

05-04-06, 01:54 AM

Go to it guys!!!! Oh its on like donkey kong!!

SonOfSawyer

05-04-06, 01:55 AM

Why doesn't CTV present this add !
Is Canada out of the lost game ?

supermodel

05-04-06, 01:56 AM

not getting thru

HOLY CRAP

foxxie

05-04-06, 01:58 AM

me either I bet we can't get through until the show is over.

steeeb

05-04-06, 01:59 AM

nice :S someone record what you get! :D

i have a feeling it could be the same?

Vincent_Madison

05-04-06, 01:59 AM

Why doesn't CTV present this add !
Is Canada out of the lost game ?

Yes - CTV is not participating

steeeb

05-04-06, 02:13 AM

anyone got through?

try 1-800 instead

supermodel

05-04-06, 03:49 AM

Yes, I got through several times, and I talked to a few others in borkchat who got through. The message is exactly the same as the UK phone message.

Penelope

05-04-06, 11:45 AM

Not sure where this post goes....Truff/Lab, feel free to move. ;)

I for one was shocked to wake up and see that we got THE SAME clue. I see some of you are also shocked. So do you think we have missed something? I have the epi on Tivo and after I get back home, I'd be happy to scour the other commercials. Dion and I had been doing that a bit during the live broadcast - Dion maybe we can work on this together today?

I guess I just feel it was a big letdown. The Hanso site is AMAZING. I thought at the very least we'd learn how to access some of the other information there. and maybe we did. I guess since we have nothing else right now, IMHO, its worth the extra time to make sure we didn't miss anything.

OR: maybe there is something else, a physical clue somewhere, we have missed. Like Manar had found that ad with Jack Shepherd (see ALL INTEL), maybe we need to get more diligent in the US.

Any thoughts?

RoseArienh

05-04-06, 12:54 PM

Pen, I thought the same thing about having the clues lead us to the same place. However, I think things will start to happen and more sites will appear. I'm planning on asking anyone I know who watches Lost to be on the look out for references in the media and to report them to me.

ETA: and they will probably start looking for a nice peaceful place for me to live.

steeeb

05-04-06, 09:59 PM

I reckon the fact Sawyer was reading the Bad Twin book, and said "I didnt get to read the last ten pages" is a clue..

foxxie

05-06-06, 12:07 PM

rottenralf

05-06-06, 03:45 PM

Attention everyone in the US. We may need someone to check out this location for real
481 West 68th St.
NY NY 10023

Do we have anyone in New York that would be willing to check this out? It is Gary Troup's address from the Bad Twin book. Please let me know!

It might be good to check out the address for the Widmore Companies which is in NYC at the same time. The Widmore addy was in the book.

aggiesean

05-07-06, 12:38 PM

Attention everyone in the US. We may need someone to check out this location for real
481 West 68th St.
NY NY 10023

Do we have anyone in New York that would be willing to check this out? It is Gary Troup's address from the Bad Twin book. Please let me know!

Mapquest is telling me that West 68th St. only goes up to the 199 block. It's possible that that address exists for East 68th St., but that would change the zip code to 10021.

Again, this is Mapquest, though, and not necessarily accurate. Does anyone in NYC know if this address exists in the real world?

:Cowdance:

foxxie

05-07-06, 12:43 PM

WOC is taking a day trip today to check out the address, as well as some other Bad Twin book locations. So, I guess we will see if it's real! :D

~G~

05-07-06, 06:51 PM

I don't know how many clues will be found in SE Wisconsin, but I will put my name in as a seeker.

WayOffCourse

05-08-06, 12:25 AM

I'm baaack. I took my Bad Twin walking tour of NYC, and I'll be posting some observations and pictures. But for now I wanted to let everyone know that Gary Troup's NY address

481 W. 68th St
NY, NY 10023

is a fictitious address.

Aggie was correct that 68th St dead-ends into Amsterdam Ave (the end of the 100 block). What isn't clear on most maps is that the far westward section of the street (what would be the 400 block) has been rebuilt as part of the Trump Place development here (http://www.cityrealty.com/sell/building.cr?name=Trump%20Place%20at%20120%20Rivers ide&bid=29947)
ETA: and the official Trump Place website here: http://www.trumpplace.com/

That section of 68th Street only provides access to the buildings' parking garages and service entrances. The main entrances to the building are on Riverside Boulevard (which is in itself a street added for the Trump Development, as is Freedom Place). Even if the entrances had street addresses, they would be in the low 400s rather than 481.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f308/tmiller9466/The%20BadTwin%20Tour/TrumpPlace.gif

If you google Trump Place you will find that it was the subject of protracted legal battles and general disgust by its Hell's Kitchen neighbors (but what Trump project isn't?)

Interestingly, at 320 W 66th Street (at the opposite end of the block from Martin Luther King High School) is this building:

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f308/tmiller9466/The%20BadTwin%20Tour/320W.jpg

I'll be uploading some more photos this evening that relate to other sites from the book

foxxie

05-08-06, 12:28 AM

Can I just say, WOC YOU ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rottenralf

05-08-06, 01:09 AM

Good work WOC, can't wait for the updates.

PandoraX

05-08-06, 01:09 AM

Well, I live on the DC border, if this ever becomes an issue...

But my curiosity is, in the past, have there really been real life clues for the maze?

rottenralf

05-08-06, 01:13 AM

Well, I live on the DC border, if this ever becomes an issue...

But my curiosity is, in the past, have there really been real life clues for the maze?

Yes, OWA did, and others have also, geo-caching, hidden objects, lots of stuff.

WayOffCourse

05-08-06, 01:15 AM

Pandora,
I think I speak for "us" when I say we really don't know what to expect with this maze. But our experience has included real clues on the OWA flight 213 portion of the maze. We don't want to rule anything out.

PandoraX

05-08-06, 01:22 AM

rottenralf

05-08-06, 01:36 AM

OK, thanks, I'll keep my eyes peeled. I added the one Washington Post story from today (Pfizer accused of exploiting Nigerian children in meningitis drug testing scandal) to my medical thread, though I don't think it's directly significant.

It is funny what turns up as significant. When in doubt just throw a DC-3 in there and you'll get Bointz!!, go figure.

PandoraX

05-09-06, 11:45 AM

I wanted to add this from ozchick, before it gets buried in the Hanso thread (she gets total credit for it, at all).

This morning's Boston Globe newspaper has an ad. I don't have a scanner, but here's the text:

"A message from Hugh McIntyre, Director of Communications at the Hanso Foundation

Don't Believe "Bad Twin"

For over thirty years, The Hanso Foundation has stood for compassion and innovation, but today, our reputation has been attacked in the novel "Bad Twin", written by Gary Troup and published by Hyperion Books.

Throughout the pages pf "Bad Twin", readers havwe found numerous passages featuring misinformation about The Hanso Foundation and its partners. The Hanso Foundation strongly objects to the book "Bad Twin", and encourages readers to make up their own minds.

The truth about The Hanso Foundation is available at www.TheHansoFoundation.org (http://www.thehansofoundation.org/) and not on the pages of Gary Troup's "Bad Twin".

Experience it for yourself.

Thank you, and namaste."

Then it has the logo. I'm also going to post this in the "Bad Twin" thread.

Penelope

05-09-06, 11:50 AM

ATTENTION ALL US TEAM VINCENT MEMBERS -- I recommend we check papers nationwide today -- a virtual check will not let us see the ads. Major cities are likely to have the ad -- LA, NYC, Chicago, etc. Truff and I have Pennsylvania covered. Hopefully we find more!!

PandoraX

05-09-06, 11:51 AM

Penelope

05-09-06, 12:25 PM

I suspect it will be the same ad Pan, but we can never be too certain ;).
I have checked online for the heck of it with all major US newspapers -- there is nothing online.

Penelope

05-09-06, 12:48 PM

An ad was in the Philadelphia News - I found this at the Fuselage:
Re: Philadelphia daily news

There is a way to view the print ads online at this link. This takes you directly to the Hanso ad.

http://newspaperads.philly.com/ROP/ads.aspx?advid=408750 (http://newspaperads.philly.com/ROP/ads.aspx?advid=408750)

Basically it says...

A Message from
Hugh McIntyre, Director of Communications at the Hanso Foundation

Don't Believe "Bad Twin"

For over thirty years, The Hanso Foundation has stood for compassion and innovation, but today, our reputation has been attacked in the novel "Bad Twin", written by Gary Troup and published by Hyperion Books.

Throughout the pages of "Bad Twin," readers have found numerous passages featuring misinformation about The Hanso Foundation and its partners. The Hanso Foundation strongly ojects to the book "Bad Twin," and encourages readers to make up their own minds.

The truth about The Hanso Foundation is available at www.TheHansoFoundation.org (http://www.thehansofoundation.org/) and not on the pages of Gary Troup's "Bad Twin."

Experience it for yourself.

Thank you, and namaste.

[Hanso Foundation Logo, Reaching out for a better tomorrow.]

So the ad IS the same -- I wonder how they are choosing the locations for the ad though???

The_Island

05-09-06, 12:54 PM

http://img.travidia.com/rop-ad/2947506

LAN

05-09-06, 01:11 PM

Penelope

05-09-06, 01:14 PM

Question:
Why would Hugh McIntyre point readers in the direction of the website, knowing full well that there is subversive information on the website?

I am having a hard time figuring out which side this "hugh" guy is on.....

I think there are two Hugh's -- a real one and a poser. This ad could easily be from the poser -- the one who called Scape. That is my little pet theory for now.

LAN

05-09-06, 01:19 PM

I think there are two Hugh's -- a real one and a poser. This ad could easily be from the poser -- the one who called Scape. That is my little pet theory for now.

Interesting. 2 Alvars, 2 Hughs........hmmmm.

Pen, are you saying that "in-game" there could be two people posing as Hugh, or do you think that the "poser" is still just having fun and posted these ads as well. That would be extreme.

Penelope

05-09-06, 01:21 PM

IN GAME there are two Hugh's -- the hack of Hugh's voicemail was deliberate/intentional. We were meant to be confused by that call. Hugh is MIA, the real Hugh. See the CHARACTERS thread where there was an interesting find on Peter Thompson -- IMO they are all MIA. Other people are running Hanso -- the exec pictures are a facade to make us think its all nice and pretty there.

aggiesean

05-09-06, 01:30 PM

I think there are two Hugh's -- a real one and a poser. This ad could easily be from the poser -- the one who called Scape. That is my little pet theory for now.

If the poser is unrelated to the game, I do not see him as the source of the newspaper ads. Advertising space in one newspaper can be expensive, let alone at least two (that we know of so far) in separate cities (Boston and Philadelphia). Hackers steal phone lines, not pay out money for fake ads.

Given simply the coordination required in printing multiple ads in multiple cities on the same day, I think a corporation must be behind these, such as ABC.

:Cowdance:

Penelope

05-09-06, 01:32 PM

Aggie that is what i meant actually. I think in THE GAME there is a poser Hugh and the real Hugh. That we are meant to have two Hugh's in the Game right now. Not some out of game hacker. Sorry if I confused anyone!!

PandoraX

05-09-06, 01:35 PM

To me, a game clue is one which is disseminate-able to the population at large, i.e. newspaper ads, TV commercials, internet, spin-off books. Planting someone to return a call to a small handful of people would not work in this regard (especially since he didn't give out any truly valuable information), even if they were known to be part of a large web community, because it still does leave a large percentage of the population that play the game out of the loop. There are people, believe it or not :D, who have never heard of LOST-TV or some of the other forums.

truffula

05-09-06, 02:12 PM

Interesting....so the ad appeared in BOTH the Phila Daily News AND The Phila Inquirer - I guess they wanna make sure it's seen (and hopefully we'll all go out and buy the book ;))

Penelope

05-09-06, 02:17 PM

Interesting....so the ad appeared in BOTH the Phila Daily News AND The Phila Inquirer - I guess they wanna make sure it's seen (and hopefully we'll all go out and buy the book ;))

LOL -- its in two Philly newspapers but we cannot find it in a NY one? Is there a Philadelphia connection they want us to dwell on -- besides the obvious PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT that we have already seen with the 10/28 date. I just find this intriguing.

glantern

05-09-06, 02:31 PM

I also posted this in the ALL_HANSO Thread:

We have page A4 in Boston Globe, A10 in Philadelphia Enquirer. How about the other papers/other cities? It's (really) a stretch, but maybe some connection/clue??

3-Putt

05-09-06, 02:52 PM

It is funny what turns up as significant. When in doubt just throw a DC-3 in there and you'll get Bointz!!, go figure.

LMAO, ralf !

_______

Regarding this ad, it sure looks like a good example of spiral marketing. (Sells books and promotes the Lost Experience).

Also, the wording of the ad kinda shouts out that perhaps there are passages in the book that could provide clues to the unknown passwords at the website. Maybe ?

"Throughout the pages of "Bad Twin," readers have found numerous passages..."

Then, again in the next paragraph, the phrasing ties the book pages to the website by putting them in the same paragraph when there was no real need to do so (other than to isolate them and associate them, for us) ---

"The truth about The Hanso Foundation is available at www.TheHansoFoundation.org (http://www.thehansofoundation.org/) and not on the pages of Gary Troup's "Bad Twin.""

What better way to sell copies of a book than if you hint that there are valuable clues inside ?

rottenralf

05-09-06, 03:03 PM

Are we seeing a treand here? Book about twins, yesterday hints there wer two Alvars Hanso's, now there might be two Hugh McIntyres or am I only seeing double?

3-Putt

05-09-06, 03:09 PM

Are we seeing a treand here? Book about twins, yesterday hints there wer two Alvars Hanso's, now there might be two Hugh McIntyres or am I only seeing double?

Two Michaels ?

Penelope

05-09-06, 03:34 PM

Are we seeing a treand here? Book about twins, yesterday hints there wer two Alvars Hanso's, now there might be two Hugh McIntyres or am I only seeing double?

I agree -- too many doubles to be a coincidence. But what does it mean? Are we going the clone route?

truffula

05-09-06, 04:26 PM

So no reports of the ad appearing elsewhere?
I can't believe yal cant find it in a NY paper....anyone on the west coast, LA perhaps found anything?
I'm gonna stop back in with the page number from the Phila Daily News (gotta nab it from a coworker;)) - just in case....

LAN

05-09-06, 04:26 PM

Ad is in San Fran Chronicle, page A8. if anyone is keeping track of this madness.

truffula

05-09-06, 04:32 PM

Okay, its on page 39 of the Phila Daily News. I'm starting to think that there is no real connection/clue to be gotten out of the pages on which the ad appeared.
Oh well, back to the drawing board....:p

PandoraX

05-09-06, 06:06 PM

I and sculpey both checked, and it's not in Washington Post... which I find strange. Also not in Washington Times. Why has the nation's capital been snubbed by ABC? We even wear socks out here! :p

Is it in the NY Times?

momeees

05-09-06, 06:08 PM

It was not in the NY Times (I'm on Long Island, NY).

Kim

Dionysus

05-09-06, 06:08 PM

This is my theory on why certain media outlets will be used and others won't. (Don't be too harsh my first ARG. lol)

I think that when ABC set up the ARG they did their research and will use it in various ways. OWA is considered one but on a smaller scale. We just had the flight and also our frappr map. Of course we are not the only site, but I do think that is coming into play on where clues may be placed. If you have a huge fan population in Philly why waste your time putting an ad in the Milwaukee Journal IMO? So that the one person that is listed from Erin, WI that you know for sure is actively participating in the game from that area will notice the clue? (BTW I know this area well and have a loving family of cheese heads myself. Hi Sam! :cool: )

I have no idea overall where the largest concentration of people playing this is from but I would guess it will play an active role in the game. I know I have sent out a bunch of E-mails and did so right away to get our team site visible and out there. Many others are doing the same on this forum and elsewhere.

I believe that many outlets will be used so that everyone will be able to participate no matter their location. So no one is left out.

I also feel the producers of this ARG are making adjustments as they go along to fit the needs of the group they are playing to. Just my thoughts on why certain newspapers carried the Hanso ad. :)

Penelope

05-09-06, 06:20 PM

I believe that many outlets will be used so that everyone will be able to participate no matter their location. So no one is left out.

I also feel the producers of this ARG are making adjustments as they go along to fit the needs of the group they are playing to. Just my thoughts on why certain newspapers carried the Hanso ad. :)

Exactly -- the game has a skeletal outline -- but there WILL be adjustments as it is a work in progress, depending on how the players react to the clues. And they are watching us!! Which is why when we email, call, etc - we must remember to keep in character - TINAG!! :Headbang:

PandoraX

05-09-06, 06:25 PM

It was not in the NY Times (I'm on Long Island, NY).

Kim

Thanks, Kim! Odd, but my thoughts are, that probably buying advertising space on the Washington Post & NY Times probably is a little more expensive, and that ABC skipped over them for that reason. :D

Dionysus

05-09-06, 06:34 PM

I agree with both of you Penelope and PandoraX. :)

I feel that ABC set up the ARG to keep it's fan base and use as a promotional tool as well but are trying to do so with a small fund base. Why they are relying on the fans so much here on these forums. Someone mentioned previously that this may be a testing ground for future projects. It will be interesting to see how this all evolves! I bet for us as well as them. lol

momeees

05-09-06, 07:09 PM

Pandora,
Thanks, Kim! Odd, but my thoughts are, that probably buying advertising space on the Washington Post & NY Times probably is a little more expensive, and that ABC skipped over them for that reason.

It could be that they're planning some other information for other areas. I'll keep a lookout.

Kim

foxxie

05-09-06, 09:27 PM

Updating page 1 with newspaper ad info!

truffula

05-09-06, 09:53 PM

Here are some pics I took of the Hanso ads as they appeared in 2 different Philadelphia newspapers:

The Philadelphia Inquirer

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/truffula/Webmaze%20Pics/Picture0021.jpg

(closer up)

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/truffula/Webmaze%20Pics/Picture0031.jpg

The Philadelphia Daily News

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/truffula/Webmaze%20Pics/Picture0011.jpg

Enjoy! :)
Peace,
Truff

see you in the next life

05-09-06, 10:06 PM

For what it is worth, the ad does not appear in the Atlanta Journal & Constitution nor does it appear in the USA Today.

~G~

05-09-06, 10:16 PM

I looked back and didn't see this anywhere. The ad ran in the Chicago Sun-Times, pg. 28. Do we have page numbers for all of the ads? Can an advertiser request a certain page?

ETA: I saw Fozz had the Sun-Times listed on page 1. Sorry for the repeat.

A8 San Fran
39 Philly Daily News
A10 Philly Enquirer
A4 Boston Blobe

Thanks for answering my question, VM.

Vincent_Madison

05-09-06, 10:19 PM

You can request a page #, but do not always get it due to last minute press changes.

Dionysus

05-10-06, 12:33 AM

I got a copy of the Boston Globe and was quite surprised it was on the 4th page. WOW!

I am very impressed!

I would have thought further back in the business section, not on page 4.

momeees

05-10-06, 12:29 PM

It's on page A16 of the NY Times today. I had to cut it to scan it, hence the line in the middle. I was also so anxious that I tore the right side of the paper (no words were removed). Letters on left going down spell out FTP TMO TN ET. So I thought I was onto something (FTP://tmot.net). No go.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c30/momeees/hanso_ad.jpg

Kim

kingdon777

05-10-06, 01:53 PM

I'm not sure if anyone has posted this yet, but in today's (5/10/06) Washington Post on page A7 there is a Hanso Foundation advertisement. It talks about the book the "Bad Twin" written by Gary Troup, and asking readers not to the believe the book which talks about the Hanso Foundation in a negative fashion. The news ad mentions a person by the name of Hugh Mcintyre as the public relations representative for the Hanso Foundation.

I'm assuming the same ad is probably in all the major city newspapers today...

Xanadu

05-10-06, 01:58 PM

WaywardK8

05-10-06, 02:03 PM

These belong in the Spin-off ABC Webmaze (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=70)forum...

Although I must admit I was just as excited when I saw the newspaper ad...

saladdays

05-10-06, 02:11 PM

I live in the Chicago area and was watching the bird flu movie last night (on ABC). I saw two Hanso Foundation commercials. It said something about "building a better tomorrow" and it gave the phone number. It was pretty cool....I would say this goes "above and beyond" for a TV show :)

I saw one of those as well. However, this time the website they gave out was www.sublymonal.com (http://www.sublymonal.com).

Hodag

05-10-06, 02:12 PM

I live in the Chicago area and was watching the bird flu movie last night (on ABC). I saw two Hanso Foundation commercials. It said something about "building a better tomorrow" and it gave the phone number. It was pretty cool....I would say this goes "above and beyond" for a TV show :)

This commercial? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW6143UkHSU) (The one that aired during Lost on May 3) Or was it a new one?

PandoraX

05-10-06, 02:52 PM

Hi klingdon. This same ad already appeared yesterday in about 8 national major city newspapers, and will continue to run today in others. You've stumbled upon what we like to call the Webmaze.

Everything related is located here: http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=70

Check out Truffula's Lost Webmaze and Travel Guide. It is stickied and provides a fairly quick but comprehensive summary.

There is a new rule that webmazish material stays in the webmaze subforum.

Again, Welcome!

rottenralf

05-10-06, 03:23 PM

athywithak

05-10-06, 03:55 PM

I am very glad the webmaze material stays in the webmaze section, but I am also kinda sad that I almost missed the news of these ads, which is interesting. So thanks to the posters who stuck this info in here and to PX for escorting them down there quietly.

K

Mr Geko

05-10-06, 03:59 PM

Here in the UK there is also Ads on TV for the Hanso foundation, Normaly aired during lost as well. I just thought it was a coinceidence.

LostInWilderness

05-10-06, 05:10 PM

Moving to Spin-offs.

Lab

05-10-06, 05:11 PM

Merging with ALL-US Real thread.

Steve Temple

05-11-06, 12:58 PM

In that ad, it mentions the name Gary Troup. That's an anagram for "purgatory."

The_Island

05-11-06, 01:09 PM

In that ad, it mentions the name Gary Troup. That's an anagram for "purgatory."

Welcome Steve...yes, this is discussed in the Bad Twin thread.

sculpey

05-14-06, 02:20 PM

There's an interesting article in Saturday's Washington Post business section about the Lost Experience:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/12/AR2006051201966.html

aggiesean

05-27-06, 11:13 PM

Posting this here because it sounds to me like a "real" clue:

This is from the post-Finale podcast by Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse (about 14 minutes in).

Carlton: We are gonna be at ComiCon in San Diego in July, and we'll be having a panel there with some of the actors and Damon and me will be on the show. We'll be at ComiCon and...

Damon: And we'll say this. We will tease this. If you are following the Lost Experience or are a fan of it at all, this stuff that's right now going on with the Hanso Foundation, who's apparently very upset with us, you might wanna come to ComiCon because we are going to be making an official announcement about our feelings about the Hanso Foundation and their meddling in our show and their attempts to sort of "legally injunct" us...

(from there the conversation goes to Hugh McIntyre on Jimmy Kimmel comments. The important thing here is that, to me, ComiCon in San Diego in July now can be considered part of the Experience.)

:Cowdance: