ALL-FRAUD Coordination Thread

[truffula]

The purpose of this thread is to keep us on the correct path through the WEBMAZE.
There will be LOTS of misinformation thrown at us along the way, deliberately attempting to throw us off of our goal - the TRUTH. ANSWERS.
So I've compiled a list of all websites that I've encountered so far in my journey through the Webmaze, and did extensive research into the backgrounds of each.
To save alot of space, I'm not gonna post the WhoIs and whatnot for each site, but know that I am fairly confident in my findings.

OFFICIAL SITES THAT ARE A PART OF THE LOST EXPERIENCE
http://www.thehansofoundation.org
http://persephone.thehansofoundation.org
http://hole2.thehansofoundation.org
http://hole3.thehansofoundation.org
http://hole4.thehansofoundation.org
http://www.sublymonal.com
http://www.letyourcompassguideyou.com
http://www.hansocareers.com
http://www.garytroup.net/home.php
http://www.hyperionbooks.com/titlepage.asp?ISBN=1401302769
http://djdan.am/index.html (http://djdan.am/index.html)
http://www.retrieversoftruth.com (http://www.retrieversoftruth.com)
http://www.rachelblake.com
http://stophanso.rachelblake.com
http://www.hansoexposed.com
http://www.freewebs.com/shipwreckmate/index.htm
http://www.valenzettiequation.com

*note - the following are not officially run sites, but clues have been given through them:
http://au.messages.yahoo.com/lost/
http://www.43things.com/


OFFICIAL SITES THAT ARE NOT A PART OF THE LOST EXPERIENCE
http://www.oceanic-air.com
http://www.oceanicflight815.com

ALL FRAUD and/or FAN SITES THAT ARE NOT A PART OF THE LOST EXPERIENCE

Widmore
http://www.widmore.com
http://www.widmorelaboratories.com
http://www.widmoregroup.com
http://thewidmoregroup.com -or- http://widmorelabs.net

Paik
http://www.paik-heavy.com
http://www.paikheavyindustry.com/ (http://www.paikheavyindustry.com/)

Valenzetti
http://www.valenzettifoundation.org/ (http://www.valenzettifoundation.org/)

Dharma
http://www.dharmainitiative.com
http://www.thedharmainitiative.info
http://thedharmainitiative.org
http:// (http://www.dharmaindustries.com
http://www.kraftkost.se/ (http://www.kraftkost.se/[/url)
http://www.dharmainitiative.info/ (http://www.dharmainitiative.info/)
http://www.dharmainitiative.net
http://thedharmainitiative.org (http://thedharmainitiative.org)

Hanso-Rachel Blake
http://dickcheever.blogspot.com (http://dickcheever.blogspot.com)
http://www.hansoadoptions.org
http://rachelblake0.blogspot.com/ (http://rachelblake0.blogspot.com/)
http://www.myspace.com/persephoneneverdies (http://www.myspace.com/persephoneneverdies)
http://www.defendinghanso.org (http://www.defendinghanso.org/)

Other
http://www.oceanicairlines.com
http://www.squidoo.com/phi-eri/
http://globalparadigmscorp.com/ (http://globalparadigmscorp.com/)
http://www.minnesotametallurgy.com (http://www.minnesotametallurgy.com/)
www.theislandiswaiting.com/ (http://www.theislandiswaiting.com/)
http://www.driveshaftband.com/ (http://www.driveshaftband.com/)
http://www.geronimo-jackson.com/ (http://www.geronimo-jackson.com/)
www.mrclucks.com/ (http://www.mrclucks.com/)
http://megalottojackpot.com/ (http://megalottojackpot.com/)
http://www.marvincandle.com/ (http://www.marvincandle.com/)
www.bigspaceship1.com/ (http://www.bigspaceship1.com/)
http://www.smartdust.com/ (http://www.smartdust.com/)
http://www.catoms.com/ (http://www.catoms.com/)
www.hansofoundation.net (http://www.hansofoundation.net/)
www.hansofoundation.info (http://www.hansofoundation.info/)
http://emri.perception.net/ (http://emri.perception.net/)
http://www.alliedcopenhagenmarinemerchants.com

*thanks to Kathaclysm for helping compile this list
More to come...this is only the beginning.....
Peace,
Truff

[Rocky Raccoon]

Psssssstt...

Placeholder posts

[LAN]

Hey guys....Rose found some posts on other sites that are plaing the game regarding
widmore.com

I know i saw this site a week or so ago, so it is unlikely, "in-game". Can you verify/debunk this"

[Hodag]

Hey guys....Rose found some posts on other sites that are playing the game regarding
widmore.com

I know i saw this site a week or so ago, so it is unlikely, "in-game". Can you verify/debunk this"

It's a fraud.

Widmore.com WHOIS info:
Whois Server: whois.wildwestdomains.com
Referral URL: http://www.wildwestdomains.com
Name Server: CZ2.CHAPTERZEROHOSTING.COM
Name Server: CZ1.CHAPTERZEROHOSTING.COM
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Updated Date: 07-feb-2006
Creation Date: 07-feb-2006
Expiration Date: 07-feb-2007

It's hosted on Chapter Zero Hosting (http://chapterzerohosting.com/), a discount web host (their most expensive plan is $9 a month). Based on that alone I'd call it a fake.

Damon Lindelof's official Lost podcast on February 6 mentioned that the Widmore sign was an Easter egg and that Widmore would play a large role in program later on. It looks like someone snatched the domain as soon as he heard that.

[bcool1956]

This site http://thewidmoregroup.com directs you to another sit http://minnesotametallurgy.com/ there is a message on the home page there is also a gallery with some pictures of "what we do" mixed in are some pictures that probably don't belong.

[Awe Inspiring]

^ Henry gale is mentioned

[Hodag]

There are many ways for a website to assert it’s authenticity.

1)Direct link: If Oceanicflight815.com or TheHansoFoundation.org has a direct link to lostxyz.com, we should consider lostxyz.com to be official.

2)Endorsement: If someone official recommends a website it’s probably official. For example, Damon Lindelof plugged TheFuselage.com in an ABC podcast, thereby vouching for its authenticity.

3)Precognition: If a website has significant, specific information that only someone official would know, and that specific information is aired on the show or on an official website a significant time later, it’s probably an official site. For example, TheHansoFoundation.org domain was registered in July 2005, but the Hanso Foundation didn’t play a prominent role in Lost until Season 2 (which began late September). Also, Alvar’s “From the dawn of our species... (http://www.bigspaceship.com/archive/hanso/)” quote from the website was quoted in “The Hunting Party (http://lostpedia.com/wiki/The_Hunting_Party)” which aired mid-January . Precognition can be faked, so beware. There are several bogus Widmore websites even though Widmore isn’t a significant part of Lost yet. But since Damon Lindof alluded to Widmore’s future importance in the Feb. 6 podcast, several counterfeits have popped up, hoping to be around if/when Widmore emerges as a major force in the Lost mythos.

4)Webmaster/Web host Association: If one company registered, hosts, and maintains several official sites, then any site by that company appearing to be official probably is official. For example, since BigSpaceship.com ran three Lost websites (oceaniclfight815, oceanic-air, & thehansofoundation), if they host lostxyz.com we can assume that it is official. Likewise, if a new site is used a discount domain and a reistrar that no official site has ever used it's probably not official.

5)Originality: 98% of photographic material shown on an endorsed website is going to be original. ABC doesn’t need to use frames captured from television or images from old promo pictures. Any site that relies on recycled images is probably fake.

6)Obscurity: This is easy to fake so it will need to be combined with a bit of precognition. If the show mentions Jebediah Bonatillian’s Famous Strawberry Pudding, and you immediately go to Google find a website for Jebediah’s pudding, it’s more than likely official. This is when looking at the WHOIS (http://www.dnsstuff.com/) (registrar) information and a little detective work is important. If WHOIS tells you that Jebediah’s pudding site was registered several months ago, and you can’t Google other instances of that name on spoiler sites like Spolierfix (http://www.spoilerfix.com/lost.php), then it’s probably official.
Beware of fakes though. For example, if I was going to fake an official site right now (May 3) I’d do a website for Ms. Klugh’s Gourmet Cookies. It’d have pictures of actress April Grace (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0333318/) as Ms. Klugh. Why? Because Spoilerfix told me she’ll play Ms. Klugh on May 17. Internet cookie businesses sprout up and disappear daily so you can’t expect her to maintain that job for long. Plus, anybody could have tried their had that job at one point of their lives (there are hundreds of reasons to start your own business), so no matter what type of character she ends up being it wouldn’t be out of character.

At this point I have 5 official Lost websites:
ABC’s Website: http://lost.abc.com
The Fuselage: http://thefuselage.com
Oceanic Flight 815: http://oceanicflight815.com
The Hanso Foundation: http://thehansofoundation.org
Oceanic Airlines: http://oceanic-air.com

ABC’s Site (http://lost.abc.com/)
Of all the websites, this one is the most obviously official. ABC runs the site. However, I’m pretty sure that it’s not the the most control by TPTB. Let’s just say that I know some not-Lost-related higher-ups on another ABC show. If the Lost section is anything like the section for that show TPTB aren’t pulling that many strings. I'm often wrong though.

The Fuselage (http://thefuselage.com/)
This site boasts that it is, “The Official Site of the Creative Team Behind LOST; Sponsored by J.J. Abrams.” This claim is substantiated by Damon Lindelof during a podcast on ABC (http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/podcasts).

Oceanic Flight 815 (http://oceanicflight815.com/)
ABC aired a commercial for this site on television. It’s also run by bigspaceship.com, which also controlled thehansofoundation.org and oceanic-air.com during the summer of 2005.


The Hanso Foundation (http://thehansofoundation.org/)
Damon Lindelof talked about the site in a podcast, Bigspaceship claims it as part of their trinity of officially endorsed viral sites (viral sites are sites that generate publicity via word-of-mouth), Javi endorsed it on The Fuselage, it was around before Hanso was important, and Alvar’s quote from the website appeared on the show months later.

Oceanic Airlines (http://oceanic-air.com/)
I’ll admit that I thought this one looked to cheap to be official, but I was wrong. It’s part of bigspaceship’s summer of 2005 Lost project.


If anybody has more to add, or corrections for me, let me know and I'll edit this post.

[supermodel]

ABC’s Site (http://lost.abc.com/)
Of all the websites, this one is the most obviously official. ABC runs the site. However, I’m pretty sure that it’s not the the most control by TPTB (emphasis added by SM). Let’s just say that I know some not-Lost-related higher-ups on another ABC show. If the Lost section is anything like the section for that show TPTB aren’t pulling that many strings. I'm often wrong though.

ITA, the diary being the biggest example. Damon and/or Carleton or one of those guys mentioed in a podcast that they aren't writing the diary and they don't know where it's going. So stuff posted to this site may not have anything to do with the show or this game. Take it with a grain of salt.

[truffula]

This site http://thewidmoregroup.com directs you to another sit http://minnesotametallurgy.com/ there is a message on the home page there is also a gallery with some pictures of "what we do" mixed in are some pictures that probably don't belong.
I believe there is a thread in spinoffs (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17987)on these sites.
And I think the person who runs those sites posts here as stump. (If I remember correctly).
Not a part of our game. :)

Peace,
Truff

[lostscape]

Hey Fraud Busters!

What is the word on this happening?

Oceanicairlines.com has changed, and the title of the webpage is "possibilities"

http://www.oceanicairlines.com/ (http://www.oceanicairlines.com/)

This was Clue # 12 http://thelostexperienceclues.blogsp...5/clue-12.html (http://thelostexperienceclues.blogspot.com/2006/05/clue-12.html)
http://www.watermarkcommunity2.org/files/student_lostexperienceclues.jpg


Clue #12

posted at 5/03/2006 11:38:00 AM (http://thelostexperienceclues.blogspot.com/2006/05/clue-12.html)

http://www.oceanicairlines.com/ (http://www.oceanicairlines.com/)

The site's name has changed (recently it was the numbers and now it is possibilties) and over the past two weeks additional flashing dots have been being added...was two and then three in a line...then second row containing two...and today an additional row containing two was added....

The Experience probably won't be tied to just one site. Don't get too distracted by the Hanso Foundation!

[Penelope]

Scape, didn't Hodag's post above in this thread link www.oceanicairlines.com (http://www.oceanicairlines.com) to BigSpaceship's intended Summer game though?

[ILoveEko]

With the recent changes made to www.widmoregroup.com (http://www.widmoregroup.com), I decided to do a whois...

VM, you're a sneaky one. ;)

I won't post VM's information on the board, but you all know how to run whois checks, so yeah.

So we can rule this one out I guess as being an official site in the game.

[Mr33Degrees]

WHOIS for www.oceanicairlines.com:

Registration Service Provided By: NameCheap.com
Contact: http://img.domaintools.com/email.pgif?md5=2c2006d13e16a3cbbd03a8e29b2bc7ef (http://whois.domaintools.com/domain-privacy/)
Visit: http://www.namecheap.com/

Domain name: oceanicairlines.com

Registrant Contact:
WhoisGuard
WhoisGuard Protected (http://img.domaintools.com/email.pgif?md5=c8929f483a7590385960b34550691b12 (http://whois.domaintools.com/domain-privacy/))
+1.6613102107
Fax: +1.6613102107
8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
Westchester, CA 90045
US

Administrative Contact:
WhoisGuard
WhoisGuard Protected (http://img.domaintools.com/email.pgif?md5=c8929f483a7590385960b34550691b12 (http://whois.domaintools.com/domain-privacy/))
+1.6613102107
Fax: +1.6613102107
8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
Westchester, CA 90045
US

Technical Contact:
WhoisGuard
WhoisGuard Protected (http://img.domaintools.com/email.pgif?md5=c8929f483a7590385960b34550691b12 (http://whois.domaintools.com/domain-privacy/))
+1.6613102107
Fax: +1.6613102107
8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
Westchester, CA 90045
US

Status: Locked

Name Servers:
ns1.networkredux.net
ns2.networkredux.net

Creation date: 29 Nov 2004 15:25:25
Expiration date: 29 Nov 2006 15:25:25

[Penelope]

Okay this press release was sent to only ONE person??? FRAUD team, what are your thoughts?
http://www.watermarkcommunity2.org/f...ssrelease2.pdf (http://www.watermarkcommunity2.org/files/student_hansopressrelease2.pdf)

[The_Island]

Please investigate:

Originally Posted by lostscape
New Hanso press release!!

http://www.watermarkcommunity2.org/f...ssrelease2.pdf (http://www.watermarkcommunity2.org/f...ssrelease2.pdf)


even though it's posted for everyone to see, why would TPTB who want EVERYONE to be involved send to only one source via email?

[bcool1956]

Please investigate:

Originally Posted by lostscape
New Hanso press release!!

http://www.watermarkcommunity2.org/f...ssrelease2.pdf (http://www.watermarkcommunity2.org/f...ssrelease2.pdf)


even though it's posted for everyone to see, why would TPTB who want EVERYONE to be involved send to only one source via email?
It could be a test to see how fast news travels.

[lostscape]

I don't know exactly where to put this, so I will put it here.
Some forums have indicated they believe that clues may be given out by forum members or moles. Trail Goat found an example of an alleged (but not believed mole) post and she discusses it here (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=568975&highlight=zeta#post568975).

GWS Anonymous, a poster at this forum has made several posts (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/search.php?searchid=142165) claiming to be a part of GWC.

Including this post (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=573863&postcount=700)

Quote:
The documents I shared with everyone were found in a private location on the Hanso Foundation site.

Hint: some of the answers you seek will be found in Joop's Corner...

GWS


this post (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=574539&postcount=742)

Quote:
Look at the Joop image again. If you have low resolution, (1280x768) zoom in once and center. When the overlay appears (there are two - you want the one that is dark at the top) take a screen shot - paste into paint. Look at the lighter band in the forhead, you can make out a child (baby??) crying. Look on the right, you can see the waterfall. Now look to the left of the falls, you can make out an upper torso, one arm raised holding a torch. Flip the image upside down.....

The face will become clearer. Look at the waterfall again, where it is narrowest, look to the left and you will see Kate?? Look over the right side shoulder and you will see another face and above that the upper torso and head of another (Locke?) and to the right a torso with one arm extended.

On the left side of the face, just past the cheek you will see the nose and mouth of what may be a woman....


and this post (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=574565&postcount=746)
http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1138&d=1146807882

Thoughts?
__________________

[The_Island]

yes i have one thought that stands out....


GWS is a liar and a fake

remember when we were joking around thinking about putting misinformation on other sites???
that is clearly what that dude is doing...IMO

[lostscape]

But TI, please tell us what you really think?:Cowdance: :)

[lostscape]

The lostexperienceclues has a commercial now.

http://thelostexperienceclues.blogspot.com/ (http://thelostexperienceclues.blogspot.com/)

Busted! It appears that this site is propaganda for a church??



The Mythology of Lost


The mythology of LOST is brilliantly anchored in our real world. Each episode draws us in not only with compelling dramatic storylines but also (and maybe more importantly) with both familiar and obscure references to literature, philosophy, science, pop culture, and religion...just to name a few. The administrators of this website are not only LOST fans, we are also people who are intensely interested in how some of the thematic elements of LOST play out in each of our real lives. We have been most intrigued by the way the LOST producers/writers Carlton Cuse & Damon Lindelof have handled themes relating to faith & redemption. We have created this blog as a means of entering into a dialogue with our culture about these very things as we journey on this "LOST Experience" together. We have some great resources to offer people who are interested in real life application of redemptive themes. If nothing else, check it out and let us know what you think.

http://storiesofthelost.blogspot.com/ (http://storiesofthelost.blogspot.com/)


Why are we doing this?

Everything happens for a reason. Our intentions as administrators is that this site be radically different than any other out there in terms of two things: 1) EXCELLENCE OF CLUES (http://www.thelostexperienceclues.com/) and 2) TRUE LIFE IMPLICATIONS found on this site. The Lost Experience is a phenomenal, pioneering idea but, in our opinion, nothing compares to these TRUE LIFE STORIES OF THE LOST and where they can lead youAbout Us

Click below for further information about who is behind both storiesofthelost.com & thelostexperienceclues.com

A Podcast (http://www.watermarkradio.com/)
A Website (http://www.watermark.org/)
The Latest (http://www.watermark.org/ministry/current_message.asp)
Why? (http://www.watermarkcommunity.org/media/media.asp?g_cmd=21&g_series=46)
For Skeptics (http://www.watermarkcommunity.org/media/media.asp?g_cmd=21&g_series=47)
Ca$h (http://www.watermarkcommunity.org/media/media.asp?g_cmd=21&g_series=12)~

[The_Island]

The lostexperienceclues has a commercial now.

http://thelostexperienceclues.blogspot.com/ (http://thelostexperienceclues.blogspot.com/)

Busted! It appears that this site is propaganda for a church??

Quote:
The Mythology of Lost


The mythology of LOST is brilliantly anchored in our real world. Each episode draws us in not only with compelling dramatic storylines but also (and maybe more importantly) with both familiar and obscure references to literature, philosophy, science, pop culture, and religion...just to name a few. The administrators of this website are not only LOST fans, we are also people who are intensely interested in how some of the thematic elements of LOST play out in each of our real lives. We have been most intrigued by the way the LOST producers/writers Carlton Cuse & Damon Lindelof have handled themes relating to faith & redemption. We have created this blog as a means of entering into a dialogue with our culture about these very things as we journey on this "LOST Experience" together. We have some great resources to offer people who are interested in real life application of redemptive themes. If nothing else, check it out and let us know what you think.</H2>http://storiesofthelost.blogspot.com/ (http://storiesofthelost.blogspot.com/)
Quote:
Why are we doing this?

Everything happens for a reason. Our intentions as administrators is that this site be radically different than any other out there in terms of two things: 1) EXCELLENCE OF CLUES (http://www.thelostexperienceclues.com/) and 2) TRUE LIFE IMPLICATIONS found on this site. The Lost Experience is a phenomenal, pioneering idea but, in our opinion, nothing compares to these TRUE LIFE STORIES OF THE LOST and where they can lead you~



I'm not one to say I told ya so....but....
:yeah:

[steeeb]

i dont understand lol

[snakey]

I found this by accident, it seems very hanso Life expectanc-ish. Even the partial pic of an orangutan looks like Joop's pic on his corner.
http://www.orangutan.org/press/news.php?id=84

[rottenralf]

And surprising enough it looks valid:

Domain ID:D3247901-LROR
Domain Name:ORANGUTAN.ORG
Created On:25-Nov-1997 05:00:00 UTC
Last Updated On:30-Nov-2005 22:36:27 UTC
Expiration Date:24-Nov-2014 05:00:00 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Network Solutions LLC (R63-LROR)
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:27419880-NSI
Registrant Name:OrangutanFoundationInternational
Registrant Organization:OrangutanFoundationInternational
Registrant Street1:822 S. Wellesley Ave.
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Los Angeles
Registrant State/Province:CA
Registrant Postal Code:90049
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.31020716
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:http://img.domaintools.com/email.pgif?md5=4e143971c0e03087de7cddcd30378eac (http://whois.domaintools.com/domain-privacy/)
Admin ID:27419882-NSI
Admin Name:OrangutanFoundationInternational
Admin Organization:OrangutanFoundationInternational
Admin Street1:822 S. Wellesley Ave.
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Los Angeles
Admin State/Province:CA
Admin Postal Code:90049
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.31020716
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:http://img.domaintools.com/email.pgif?md5=4e143971c0e03087de7cddcd30378eac (http://whois.domaintools.com/domain-privacy/)
Tech ID:5717945-NSI
Tech Name:Jonas Fornander
Tech Organization:Netwood Communications,LLC
Tech Street1:11718 Barrington Ct., #301
Tech Street2:
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Los Angeles
Tech State/Province:CA
Tech Postal Code:90049
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.3104421530
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:+1.3108203125
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:http://img.domaintools.com/email.pgif?md5=73539324caea0e38b17bbaaa1fb4c62e (http://whois.domaintools.com/domain-privacy/)
Name Server:MONTWOOD.NETWOOD.NET
Name Server:WILSHIRE.NETWOOD.NET


Additional sites they use are:

orangutansonline.com (http://whois.domaintools.com/orangutansonline.com), orangutans-sos.org (http://whois.domaintools.com/orangutans-sos.org), orangutan.org.uk (http://whois.domaintools.com/orangutan.org.uk), janegoodall.org (http://whois.domaintools.com/janegoodall.org), 4apes.com (http://whois.domaintools.com/4apes.com), primate.org (http://whois.domaintools.com/primate.org), panda.org (http://whois.domaintools.com/panda.org), asp.org (http://whois.domaintools.com/asp.org), orangutannetwork.net (http://whois.domaintools.com/orangutannetwork.net), orangutan-health.org (http://whois.domaintools.com/orangutan-health.org),

4apes.com also has an ad on the www.drcandle.com (http://www.drcandle.com) site even though we believe that is a fan site.

[snakey]

Thanks Ralf, seems like they borrowed some pics and info (for the Hanso site)

[truffula]

There has been alot of discussion about www.oceanicairlines.com (http://www.oceanicairlines.com)
As Team Leader of the ALL FRAUD Team, I'd like to say that this site is a FANSITE.
Here is the proof: (courtesy of hodag)

The domain was registered early.... Nov. 29, 2004. That makes it older than OceanicFlight815 (April 2005), oceanic-air.com (April 2005). amd thehansofoundation.org (July 2005). This gives the site some legitimacy...
HOWEVER it was registered by NameCheap.com. Just reading that name should sound warning bells in your head.

So, we look up the host at IP address 64.128.80.5 (networkredux.com) and see that they specialize in discount web hosting. $5.95 per month, or $20 per month of unlimited domains? That is *not* a host for business sites. There's no way it's legit. Don't waste your time on it.

So there you have it.
Peace,
Truff

[rottenralf]

Truff - Terminology please. It is legit, a legit fan site. It isn't a waste of time if it is fun...example: KCSP/XNA/sn0wman/Mr clucks. It doesn't belong in the Official Thread, but a legit spin-off site. (again- not my site).

[truffula]

Truff - Terminology please. It is legit, a legit fan site. It isn't a waste of time if it is fun...example: KCSP/XNA/sn0wman/Mr clucks. It doesn't belong in the Official Thread, but a legit spin-off site. (again- not my site).

Sorry, didnt mean to give the wrong impression there.
Yal know me, come on now....I LOVE a good fansite!! :D
What I posted as proof was a direct quote from Hodag after I asked him to try to verify the legitimacy of this in regards to the LOST Experience.
My job here is to verify which sites are indeed part of the ARG - and this oceanic site is not, just sayin ;)

Peace,
Truff

[The_Island]

My job here is to verify which sites are indeed part of the ARG - and this oceanic site is not, just sayin ;)


i want royalties...hope the check is in the mail

[ILoveEko]

LOL TI, I almost posted about the royalties after I first read his post! :p

[rottenralf]

Truff - the findings should be posted in the spin-off section if you get a chance.

[Penelope]

Okay I am confused. Couldn't any of these 'older' sites have been purchased recently by another buyer? I just don't want us ruling out sites that may be involved based on when they were created. Someone who has a better understanding of this (Ralf ;) ) maybe you can clear this up. I am just a little leery of debunking 'active' sites now in the event ABC has purchased them. I am unsure if that information would be a matter of public record, I am guessing it is somewhere.

[rottenralf]

Pene - If there is a change in registered owner then there is a link that shows up on the site I use, and gives the registration history. There were I think two sites that seemed to be registered to ABC but that was a red herring done by some sly old dog and they no longer say ABC. So it is doubtful ABC has purchased any sites from fans.

[trailgoat]

I was just snooping around for sites and found that www.preuss.net (http://www.preuss.net) is owned by M Stenzel. Paul Press wrote a book called Breaking Strain. Isn't M Stenzel behind the windmorelabs and mining sites? It could be a different person with the same name, since it was registered years ago. Just a heads up. :)

[Penelope]

From the 'Lage: Apparently there is an IM'er possibly linked to THE GAME:

Quote:
Originally Posted by ISayPasadena http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/images/FuselageGreen/misc/backlink.gif (http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?p=969098#post968677)
sorry if this is the wrong thread but has anyone heard anything about IMing a "Hanso815" because I tried it a bit ago and got a reply like "your mission is complete good work soldiers and hold for more updates to your current mission" and that future updates will come to those that have proven themselves worthy. Just thought id let you guys know.


I read several conversations people had with Hanso815. At first it seemed interesting, then it got a bit weird and very unlikely connected to the game.http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?p=969098#post969098

Has anyone here tried to IM this person? Looks suspicous but worth investigating.

[back_gammon]

From Gregg Nations, LOST Script Coordinator, in response to a question posted by number_22 at the fuselage.

number_22:
Which sites are legit ?
Hi Greeg, there currently is a lot of confusion about which sites are officially part of The Lost Experience and which are just fakes.

It was rumoured that the site http://thelostexperienceclues.blogspot.com/ was an ABC site, but they promote some sort of strange religious believes over there using the Lost Experience as a means to the end.

Furthermore, there are pages like www.widmore.com who seemingly are registered to ABC (at least that's what a whois lookup tells), but are most likely fakes.

So could you just tell us which sites apart from www.thehansofoundation.org are OFFICIALLY part of the LOST Experience (would save a lot of time and energy ! )

Yesterday, 08:06 PM #2
Gregg Nations
VIP

Re: Which sites are legit ?

As far as I know, at this point on the Hanso site and the Gary Troup site are official Experience sites. As it goes on there will be a couple more, but for right now that's it.

http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=47719

[ILoveEko]

Thanks bg!

[cameronbh206]

Hey guys, do we know if www.paik-heavy.com (http://www.paik-heavy.com) is legit or fake yet??

[buckylaserbeam]

is the drive shaft website fake?

[Penelope]

is the drive shaft website fake?

No it is an ABC sponsored site -- but NOT related to the ABC maze, as of now.

[truffula]

UPDATED POST ONE OF THIS THREAD.
PLEASE PM ME WITH ADDITIONS.
THANK YOU.
:)

[Syclopa]

I posted this also in ALL-HANSO, but it may be noticed here, is this http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2303739044374474930 real?

[Lab]

Hi Syclopa and Welcome to LOST-TV and the "Webmaze"!

That is a fan created video. It is not official. We have discussed it in the Spin-off subforum, in this thread:

Hanso Classification Video 10/21/05 (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11092)


A lot of the Lost related websites and videos are discussed there as well.

Check it out sometime if you like.
Spin-offs (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=71)


Hope that helps, and again, Welcome!:)

[truffula]

UPDATED FIRST POST AGAIN. :)

[buckylaserbeam]

not sure what you mean?

[buckylaserbeam]

No it is an ABC sponsored site -- but NOT related to the ABC maze, as of now. not sure waht you mean?

[rottenralf]

not sure waht you mean?

It is a site that ABC put for the show. It is not part of the Lost Experience ARG as of this date. They may include it later, they may not.

[buckylaserbeam]

It is a site that ABC put for the show. It is not part of the Lost Experience ARG as of this date. They may include it later, they may not.

does that mean it not to be discussed

[Kathaclysm]

does that mean it not to be discussed
Just that this isn't the place to discuss it... you're in the Official ABC webgame forum... if it's not part of the webgame, it's probably discussed elsewhere on the site.

[Lab]

bucky, If you are still referring to the Driveshaft site, you can post any comments or anything you have on it
in this thread in the Spin-off sub-forum:

www.driveshaftband.com STOF (Fan site) (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16183)

Hope that helps.

[buckylaserbeam]

bucky, If you are still referring to the Driveshaft site, you can post any comments or anything you have on it
in this thread in the Spin-off sub-forum:

www.driveshaftband.com STOF (Fan site) (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16183)

Hope that helps.

hey thanks, i put it in the oceanic forum because it connects the two in a wierd way. thanks for the help on the fraud. in the first post i must have missread that the driveshaft site was a fraud site.
thanks again

[snakey]

http://www.dharmatel.org/blastdoor.html
this was in General Disc. by lostboy, I dont know where he got it but it's cool to have the blast door map overlapped on the Island, I've seen things like this before but not so easy to understand like this is.

[buckylaserbeam]

ok im a bit confused if the driveshaft site is not to be discussed here. do i clue to the hanso site that should be brought up at the driveshaft site or the hanso site?

[rottenralf]

Bucky - You discuss the driveshaft site in the driveshaft thread that Lab gave a link for a few posts up. Unless you found a change on the site from a few days ago and it connects to the new LE ARG, then post it in All-Web thread, but only if it concerns the current game.

[buckylaserbeam]

thanks rotten ralf

[beckyjc22880]

Sorry, Im lazy and dint want to read EVERY post but to help out those who cant tell officail from unofficial....click on privacy policy. If it says someDisney crap its official

[ILoveEko]

Hi becky - that works sometimes, but the problem is, any site can link to Disney's privacy policy, so we have to rely on other methods than just checking that to find out. :)

[lostscape]

Hey Fraud Busters! So, many of us have gotten this email


QUOTE:

Thanks for offering to help. I'm trying to communicate with someone but it is hard to get the right message through to the right person. This is where I'm hoping you can help.
I need you to confirm that you can help get my message out. Find a public place on the web (blog, personal site, anywhere) where you can post a link to this page: http://www.paik-heavy.com/slow-air-demo.php (http://www.paik-heavy.com/slow-air-demo.php)
It has to be a public site - a page that anyone can see.
If you can include the text "Slow Air Demo" with the link it will help. Click here (http://e2ma.net/go/267120533/212015/6135019/goto:http://www.paik-heavy.com/pht.php) to see an example of what I'm talking about.
The page you're linking to will redirect to another page - but please post this specific link: http://www.paik-heavy.com/slow-air-demo.php (http://www.paik-heavy.com/slow-air-demo.php)
Once you have posted your link, click on the manage your prefernces link below and provide me with the URL of the page where you posted the link. If you have figured out the code, include that too.
Once there are enough links I will be able to get my message out - hopefully in just a few days.
Namaste (http://e2ma.net/go/267120533/212015/6135020/goto:http://www.squidoo.com/phi-eri/)

If you follow the links, you end up here http://esnips.com/web/namste which includes an MP3 file entitled "Sorry" containing morse code (which I can't translate cuz I am morse code hearing impaired!). Maybe it is a confession that puts the Paik site to bed once and for all?

ETA: Someone translated it to say SECURECOMMCRITICAL.MOREINFOTOMORROW

[truffula]

As I said in Post 1 - www.paik-heavy.com (http://www.paik-heavy.com) is NOT A PART OF THE LOST EXPERIENCE.
Think about it.
ABC puts enough into this to warrant taking out ads in major newspapers across the US, but wont pay for a decent website, or email server for the ARG? I highly doubt it.
MySpace, Free Blog sites, Free uploading sites, gmail/hotmail/yahoo etc - all point to ILLEGITIMACY.

Now, there is no harm in playing along - as long as you do NOT try to mix up info garnished from this with the OFFICIAL info (from Hanso site).
I checked out the myspace site, and it is piss poor. Come on, not even a pic from the Hanso site? No info from the Bio? Nothing? Oh, and "Tom" is still a friend. Thats another indication ;)
Well, I sent "Peter" a message on his myspace linking him here.
Now we see what happens next.

Peace,
Truff

[trailgoat]

Just wanted to let you know that www.di9fftr731.com (http://www.di9fftr731.com) redirects to dharmaindustries.com, a known fan site (and don't send him money:D).

[truffula]

As ALL-FRAUD team leader, I must bring this to everyone's attention -

http://tacosalad-rachel.blogspot.com/

Is this LEGIT?

[truffula]

While this is under investigation, I will post my findings here and move accordingly should this prove to be IN-GAME.

From the Copenhagen entry -
Silly me, I sold out and got a real-life job with an evil megalithic corporation.
Makes me think of the backwards "she was an employee of the foundation" from the MFI Map hack

From the Paris entry -
And nobody can stop me.
Like the Hanso Foundation, right?

From the Iceland entry -

Apparently, this place is a literal hotbed of volcanic activity (bad joke), and is mainly powered by geothermal and hydroelectric energy
Sounds like someplace else we know....like the Island.

[Zamboni]

It is hosted through blogspot, which as an open blogging page (ala livejournal or myspace) and is under the wing of google.

It is not in any way associated with any of the sponsor pages. It was registered in June. If it WAS part of the ARG it would likely have been registered prior and set aside by TPTB at a much earlier date.

[truffula]

Now that I think about it, this also reeks of the individual who attempted a "Peter Thompson" thing on the same site....gettin the same kinda replies, ala the code, just like the fan-based Thompson stuff.
I think that stuff came from Paik-Heavy.com or something like that - dead end.

[Zamboni]

I did find a cool (clearly fan-made) Valenzetti blog in the comments, though!

http://findvalenzetti.blogspot.com/

[WASTE]

Seems pretty shady to me. It's definitely not unheard of for free services like this to be utilized in professional ARGs, in fact it's really common, but TLE seems a bit more "corporate" than others. Blogspot is used often, and Google could make a great sponsor (as they were in the MI:3 game), but I think the people running the LOST ARG would make use of Blogspot's customizable options rather than a basic template if this were the case. The design doesn't look very flattering.

But still, you never know. rachelblake.com seems like a more likely place for her blog to be located, if you ask me. Maybe we'll hear something from DJ Dan soon.

[~G~]

I'm not sure if it makes any difference, as I don't know much about blogs, but each entry was posted b/w 2:55 and 2:56, June 2.

[WASTE]

As Zamboni mentioned in the Monster.com thread, manipulating the date of the post on Blogspot is fairly simple. If this is "fake" then they probably changed it to make it seem like they registered it before the video was discovered.

[aggiesean]

I'm getting this blog as "down" now, which makes me think, with what is said above, that the poster realized people could tell it was fake and gave up.

:Cowdance:

[orskasm]

Has anyone else got an IM from some guy named "SvoreBcgvpvna" He said something like he had information on the ROT but I wasn't here when he IMed me so I couldn't talk to him. I'm pretty sure it's a fake, I don't think TPTB would hire someone to IM us through AIM. The reason I'm posting this here is I was wondering if there was any code in that name, if it is real it might be something helpful. Password to rachelblake.com anyone?

[duality]

Has anyone else got an IM from some guy named "SvoreBcgvpvna" He said something like he had information on the ROT but I wasn't here when he IMed me so I couldn't talk to him. I'm pretty sure it's a fake, I don't think TPTB would hire someone to IM us through AIM. The reason I'm posting this here is I was wondering if there was any code in that name, if it is real it might be something helpful. Password to rachelblake.com anyone?

"SvoreBcgvpvna" is "FiberOptician" rot13 encoded.

[Maestra]

"SvoreBcgvpvna" is "FiberOptician" rot13 encoded.

Two options: this is someone in-game or a very clever imposter. :)

[orskasm]

I certainly hope it's in game, I'm asking them questions and they seem to mostly know what they're talking about.

[aggiesean]

Has anyone else got an IM from some guy named "SvoreBcgvpvna" He said something like he had information on the ROT but I wasn't here when he IMed me so I couldn't talk to him. I'm pretty sure it's a fake, I don't think TPTB would hire someone to IM us through AIM. The reason I'm posting this here is I was wondering if there was any code in that name, if it is real it might be something helpful. Password to rachelblake.com anyone?

I contacted him just now:

Me: Are you FiberOptician?
SvoreBcgvpvna: No.
Me: sorry about the mix-up...your name decodes to FiberOptician...just wanted to check.
SvoreBcgvpvna: Qba'g gvr zr gb gur EBG
(Translation: Don't tie me to the ROT)

There's more, but until I get some sort of confirmation as to legitimacy, I won't post it here.

:Cowdance:

[orskasm]

I've been talking to him for a little bit now too, I'm really not convinced it's real, but I want it to be so bad.

[aggiesean]

orskasm, check your PMs.

:Cowdance:

[orskasm]

I'm thinking maybe we submit this to ALL FRAUD?

[orskasm]

I just re-read ROT and there is a mention of someone being IMed. Also on the Aim website is a ad for Sublymonal. Not sure what that all means, but it's something to think about especially regarding Svore.

[aggiesean]

These posts were in all-CLUES, now are suddenly in all-FRAUD?!? Isn't it kinda soon to move these here?

:Cowdance:

[ILoveEko]

These posts were in all-CLUES, now are suddenly in all-FRAUD?!? Isn't it kinda soon to move these here?They were in ALL-CODES, I dunno if they shoulda stayed there, but I agree with it being a little early to move them here... ALL-WEB woulda made a bit more sense or something...

[aggiesean]

Transferring over here from rachelblake.com:


Not sure if this is important at all, and it's probably unrelated, but just interesting:

Cliff H. said... Hey Rachel,

My name is Cliff. Recently, my little sister has gone missing. (check it out here (http://www.haveyouseensarah.com/)) Now, you may be thinking why this concerns you, but I thought it might interest you that I think the Hanso Foundation had something to do with her disappearance. I have a hidden blog, kind of like yours. I put up a way to find it through the main site, but to speed things up, here is the link (http://www.haveyouseensarah.com/blog.php). Now, even if the fact that she was in their Vik Institute isn't enough, I have more. I have recieved information from the institute that does not work with the information the Hanso Foundation has provided, stuff like time and dates. And the executives that came and talked with us seemed very fishy to me. I don't know, I might be crazy. But I doubt it. Anyways, just thought you might want to know.

-Thanks for your time and good luck, from Cliff
11:09 PM

The haveyouseensarah.com website thats linked in the first link has an oceanic airlines ad...hmm...


Whois registers this website to a residential address in Dallas. Given that now even Rachel admits the "commercialization" of the ARG, I don't see them hiding addresses in residential areas on registration. Also, the domain was bought relatively recently, June 11. So I would call this non-ARG.

:Cowdance:

[Namasty]

I found 2 new audio files on the server of the Hanso site :

1. Message for Marvin Candle (?) :
http://rapidshare.de/files/24105639/dharma_4581.wav.html

2. Message for Alvar Hanso :
http://rapidshare.de/files/24105718/hanso_4587.wav.html

Sorry, I dont have the links anymore, but I am sure you will re-find them!

:)

[truffula]

I found 2 new audio files on the server of the Hanso site :

1. Message for Marvin Candle (?) :
http://rapidshare.de/files/24105639/dharma_4581.wav.html

2. Message for Alvar Hanso :
http://rapidshare.de/files/24105718/hanso_4587.wav.html

Sorry, I dont have the links anymore, but I am sure you will re-find them!

:)
:rotfl: I highly doubt those came from the server of the Hanso site.
And you don't have links either, what a coincidence. ;)

[Penelope]

and he just registered and is the forum's newest member... ;)

[Lab]

Moving posts to All-Fraud. I think we are all pretty much in agreement that this is the case.

[PandoraX]

This is crazy but someone over at Speaker's blog just said that a few minutes ago, a link for dick cheever's blog appeared in the source code of broadbandstories, but now it went away... he got a cap of it:

http://i3.tinypic.com/167s6ps.jpg

Not 100% sure I buy it yet, just putting it out there...

http://dickcheever.blogspot.com

ETA: Big warning that I'm not sure if this is real.. JustWillow over on ITE said she thinks the guy who posted the screencap may have faked it, and she is right about a lot of stuff...

[rvturnage]

This is crazy but someone over at Speaker's blog just said that a few minutes ago, a link for dick cheever's blog appeared in the source code of broadbandstories, but now it went away... he got a cap of it:



Not 100% sure I buy it yet, just putting it out there...

http://dickcheever.blogspot.com

They're discussing this in rachels thread too...here's what I posted there...actually first let me ask this...Pan you may not remember this reference...but was this up on broadbandstories.com and someon managed to miraculously find it before it disappeared, like Hodag's great photo from THF last year?

anyway..here's my toughts after looking at the blog:

a few things make me say "fake" on this one...

1. The "B" word on an ABC sponsored site

2. Bad photoshop job on the photo, which was pulled from THF.org and blurred and dropped on a background.

3. Why would a member of THF board be using a blog to post about his travels and pursuit of this girl? That makes no sense. Rachel using a blog to get her message out makes sense. Cheever would be using memos and emails to mittlewerk. NOT airing "dirty laundry" on a blog.

just my 2 cents...

rvt

ETA: I think Manar and Duality...not to mention several other places...are monitoring broadbandstories for updates...should be easy enough to check when it was last updated...

[duality]

ETA: I think Manar and Duality...not to mention several other places...are monitoring broadbandstories for updates...should be easy enough to check when it was last updated...

Unfortunately I haven't been monitoring the html page only the swf files for RDB, but looking at that screen shot, one thing that jumps out at me is that the cursor is right at the end of the url, like he just typed it in.

Guess we'll find out soon, but I agree that coarse language would probably not appear on a game site with Disney in charge.

[Zamboni]

The truth is Dick Cheever's Blog was registered this month. Rachel's was registered in early may.

If this IS ARG, I doubt it would have been registered this late.

[csmicbcklsh]

I'm not buying the Dick Cheever blog either. We've seen no foul language from any of the other official ARG sites so far, so why would ABC start now?

[PandoraX]

You know what guys... I don't believe the Cheever blog either the more I look at it.

1) Everything rvt said
2) Willow and some other regulars on the site said they've never seen that guy post before, think he has other names
3) They've never inserted an URL in the source code and then taken it out after so little time
4) It's easy to modify the code in notepad and take a screencap

Sorry for wasting your time! (I think)

csmc: I don't think the bad language in itself rules it out though. The F- word is on Mandrake's blog, and that is in-game now...

[Zamboni]

I wasn't going to fall for a screencap of the .txt file in a million years. Any Potter fans remember the "Pillar of Storge" fiasco?

[truffula]

Yal can keep discussing it here if you want, but it would be alot easier if yal moved the Dick Cheever blog convo to ALL FRAUD, as I will be moving the posts about this over there eventually :)
Thanks :)

[aggiesean]

I wasn't going to fall for a screencap of the .txt file in a million years. Any Potter fans remember the "Pillar of Storge" fiasco?
Thanks for reminding me. :rolleyez:

Truff, these can probably be moved to all-FRAUD if time allows.

ETA: Oh, hi Truff! You snuck in on me. :D

:Cowdance:

[csmicbcklsh]

That is very true, Pandora. Didn't even remember that because that site is still kind of new to me.

[PandoraX]

The ERICC guy is officially BUSTED.... the dick cheever blog is likely FAKE.

Speaker went through and changed his IP to show that he is the same guy as the other ones who have been promoting the cheever blog...

Sorry bout that! I'm just relieved I don't have to check 100 blogs every day now, just 99. :D

[PandoraX]

http://dickcheever.blogspot.com/

Can be added...

[truffula]

Added site name, and posts concerning this have been moved over here also (at least the bulk of them, we'll get the rest eventually ;))

[Awe Inspiring]

Hey guys, what about www.hansoadoptions.org (http://www.hansoadoptions.org) ? It was mentioned in Rachel's comments on her most recent addition. Its kinda weird and I'm wondering if its fake, so Here You Go!

[truffula]

We have a thread set up in the Spinoff Subforum for HansoAdoptions.
It is fan made. Not part of the LE.
I shoulda added this when it first popped up. My bad :p
Adding to Post 1 now. :)

Peace,
Truff

[csmicbcklsh]

I've got another fake one you can add to this list.

http://rachelblake0.blogspot.com/

I think it might be by the same person that attempted to fool us with the Dick Cheever blog.

[Julay]

probably add this one too

http://www.myspace.com/persephoneneverdies

[truffula]

Added them both Julay and csmicbcklsh.
Thanks! :)

[Dionysus]

WOW there are so many fraud sites it's hard to know. Great finds all!

[Zamboni]

Okay...I don't really have time for skimming 11 pages of fraud thread, so I'll just post this.

http://www.defendinghanso.org (http://www.defendinghanso.org/)

This website was posted in the comments of Rachel Blake's blog. What ya'll think? Another Dick Cheever at blogspot, or something more concrete?

If this has already been found and proven false, I apologize for mucking up the thread.

[truffula]

Okay...I don't really have time for skimming 11 pages of fraud thread, so I'll just post this.

http://www.defendinghanso.org (http://www.defendinghanso.org/)

This website was posted in the comments of Rachel Blake's blog. What ya'll think? Another Dick Cheever at blogspot, or something more concrete?

If this has already been found and proven false, I apologize for mucking up the thread.

Looks like a fansite to me. There's a disclaimer at the bottom.
I'll add it to.....THE LIST. ;)
Thanks, Zam! :)

[aggiesean]

Okay...I don't really have time for skimming 11 pages of fraud thread, so I'll just post this.

http://www.defendinghanso.org (http://www.defendinghanso.org/)

This website was posted in the comments of Rachel Blake's blog. What ya'll think? Another Dick Cheever at blogspot, or something more concrete?

If this has already been found and proven false, I apologize for mucking up the thread.

This is the first I've seen it, but it's registered on GoDaddy.com according to Whois.sc, which suggests to me fake. It was also registered originally May 12th.

:Cowdance:

[rvturnage]

I'd probably add this to a "fake" list, simply because I can't see Penny Widmore discussing this sort of thing on a blog:

www.pennywidmore.blogspot.com/

BUT, it would be an interesting twist for the phone call Penny recieved in the season Finale to be in the year 2006...

rvt

[truffula]

I'd probably add this to a "fake" list, simply because I can't see Penny Widmore discussing this sort of thing on a blog:

www.pennywidmore.blogspot.com/ (http://www.pennywidmore.blogspot.com/)

BUT, it would be an interesting twist for the phone call Penny recieved in the season Finale to be in the year 2006...

rvt
The blog I would assume is fanmade.
But the site mentioned therein, I'm not sure about so I'm bringing it up here so we can validate this one way or the other.

www.widmorecorporation.com (http://www.widmorecorporation.com)

Registered May 3, 2006 and the registrant info is privacy protected.
The site doesn't exist technically. I get a "Problem loading page" error.

The only reason I'm bringing this up is that little red icon - the one that appeared on Hanso before it went live, and on the Persephone page?
Well, since I can't get the little thing to post on its own, here is a screencap -

http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/7956/widmorecorp11wx.jpg

There it is for this site.

My question is - does this icon have any bearing on the site itself?
Is this a connection to the Hanso site, or is it just kind of like a "default icon" for an inactive website?

Peace,
Truff

[rvturnage]

A person can set a custom icon for their site...meaning all the user has to do is create a graphic titled favicon.ico.

Not sure how it appears in a whois search though...unless it's pointed to in the code somehow...it bears watching, i guess. The IP doesn't match any of the other in-game sites that are hosted at THF.org's server...it resolves to a company in Amsterdam. http://www.ripe.net

[blondiejam]

Quote:


Could this refer to Nozz-a-la Cola ?

http://nozzala.com/ (http://nozzala.com/)


has anyone checked out this site? is it legit?

[Richardstone]

has anyone checked out this site? is it legit?

No it's not legit, in the sense that it has nothing to do with Stephen King and is just there to sell T-Shirts..

Try clicking the Privacy Policy or Terms of Use...

[aggiesean]

has anyone checked out this site? is it legit?
Nozz-a-la is a beverage from Stephen King's "The Dark Tower" novels. It's a fan site for another world. :)

:Cowdance:

[blondiejam]

Nozz-a-la is a beverage from Stephen King's "The Dark Tower" novels. It's a fan site for another world. :)

:Cowdance:


sooooooooo..... it shouldn't be considered in-game???

[Richardstone]

sooooooooo..... it shouldn't be considered in-game???

Nowhere near being in game...

[Dagolu]

doing a little searching on my search engine and I found www.hanso.co.kr (http://www.hanso.co.kr) . it's in japanese or korean so I'll try to find if it's legit or fake

edit: I just found a probably fake site http://www.freewebs.com/antihanso/

editagain: another site. probably dormant but possibly legit http://stophanso.com/

editorz!!one!!11!: probably fake because it's not oceanicworldair its http://oceanicworldairlines.com/

again: probably fake. reminds me of one of the real sites... http://www.darmaindustries.com/pages/1/index.htm

[truffula]

doing a little searching on my search engine and I found www.hanso.co.kr (http://www.hanso.co.kr) . it's in japanese or korean so I'll try to find if it's legit or fake

edit: I just found a probably fake site http://www.freewebs.com/antihanso/

editagain: another site. probably dormant but possibly legit http://stophanso.com/

editorz!!one!!11!: probably fake because it's not oceanicworldair its http://oceanicworldairlines.com/

again: probably fake. reminds me of one of the real sites... http://www.darmaindustries.com/pages/1/index.htm
Lets see....so far I can tell you this:
stophanso.com is not in-game WhoIs info (http://whois.domaintools.com/stophanso.com)
oceanicworldairlines is indeed a site of Vincent_Madison's and is a part of OWA
the darmaindustries site is definitely not in-game (nice to spell dHarma correctly :p)
And the Asian Hanso site is also not in-game (the WhoIs was also in Korean, but it actually listed a contact)

Will add these to the LIST in Post 1 :)

[Dagolu]

thanks a bundle

[Dagolu]

sorry to make it a double post but it wouldn't be recognised as well if it wasn't. is the oceanic-air site part of it? it was part of the initial pre season two webgame. and also I'd like to add the driveshaftband unofficial site to the list of nonrelateds

[truffula]

sorry to make it a double post but it wouldn't be recognised as well if it wasn't. is the oceanic-air site part of it? it was part of the initial pre season two webgame. and also I'd like to add the driveshaftband unofficial site to the list of nonrelateds
If you're referring to oceanicflight815.com then I don't know to be honest whether or not it will be used in TLE. They DO still link to THF on the mainpage, so you never know (and I think it would be a neat place to hide a glyph too ;)).

Sorry too, cause I forgot to add those from yesterday to Post 1.
What's the url for the driveshaftband site? I'll add that one too (but it will have to wait til this afternoon when I can get on a compy that doesnt crash when I try to open 2 browser windows ;))

[Dagolu]

www.driveshaftband.com (http://www.driveshaftband.com)

yeah but I mean with the oceanic site, that one with the hidden seating chart
eta
this one www.oceanic-air.com (http://www.oceanic-air.com)
also is www.oceanicworldair.com (http://www.oceanicworldair.com) part of it
and with www.oceanicflight815.com

[truffula]

www.driveshaftband.com (http://www.driveshaftband.com)

yeah but I mean with the oceanic site, that one with the hidden seating chart
Thanks for the link :)

Ah, you did mean oceanic-air.com :p
I don't think that will be used in TLE at all. In fact I don't think that site has done anything in quite some time ;)

[Dagolu]

I checked it again and it hasn't budged at all. however it would still be clever to put a glyph there.

[Richardstone]

Both of these are official...

http://www.oceanic-air.com/

http://www.oceanicflight815.com/ (try clicking the barcode at the bottom and typing theislandiswaiting)

They were both designed by http://www.bigspaceship.com/

If you look in their portfolio you'll see the LOST sites and all the other stuff they've done, not to be confused with BS1...

I actually tried to get in contact with them the other day, (A) to ask if there were any plans to update the site and (B) to correct a mistake they had regarding Kate's name...

They have her down as Kate Ryan, which is a mistake, she was Maggie Ryan during the bank robbery but her actual name is Kate Austen...

The other Oceanic site you listed is'nt official AFAIK, pretty sure it's not actually...

[Dagolu]

well, I just checked the oceanic world air site and it links to widmore group so its probably fake or widmore group is real.

[ILoveEko]

Oceanic World Air is a fan run ARG/webgame by Vincent_Madison, as well as Widmore Group and a bunch more.

I'll go grab you a link to his sites discussion thread so you know which ones, Dag. :) I don't think all the sites he currently is using are there though, but most of them are.

ETA: Here (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12627) ya go.

[Dagolu]

thanks I'll keep an eye out for them and not check them out if I come accross them in a routine search for new or fake sites

I've also noticed that shade, stophanso, and hansoppression aren't listed. I'm not sure but I have a good idea that they're not part of the webgame

[Batman Laz0r]

Nozz-a-la is a beverage from Stephen King's "The Dark Tower" novels. It's a fan site for another world. :)

:Cowdance:

This is purely academic, but it's so rare I can contribute anything ;) :

Nozz-A-La is also in Mr. King's Kingdom Hospital series, as noted by Richard (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=876566&postcount=189) and myself (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=885274&postcount=197).

[Lab]

Dagolu, we have already looked into the sites you have mentioned pretty thouroughly, however, if it is not directly tied to the Lost Experience, it is discussed in the Spin-offs (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=71) sub-forum. Check it out sometime when you get a chance.

Hope that helps. :)

[Dagolu]

umm truff, something seriously wierd is with the oceanic flight 815 site. if you click on the light coming from the hatch, it leads you to the hanso foundation site (currently shut down) so perhaps you should include oceanicflight815 in the webgame list

[Richardstone]

umm truff, something seriously wierd is with the oceanic flight 815 site. if you click on the light coming from the hatch, it leads you to the hanso foundation site (currently shut down) so perhaps you should include oceanicflight815 in the webgame list

It's been like that since the beginning, but it used to go to the old site for The Hanso Foundation, it used to have the same address...

http://lxicon.com/hanso/mission.html

BTW did you try the barcode on oceanicflight815 yet Dagolu?

[Dagolu]

oh yeah the old site, I remember that. what is the barcode code anyway? what does it do?

[blondiejam]

oh yeah the old site, I remember that. what is the barcode code anyway? what does it do?


if you type in "theislandiswaiting" you can a page from a script that is a total mock-off. something about zombies. it's not new.

[Dagolu]

cool, I'll go try that

[Richardstone]

if you type in "theislandiswaiting" you can a page from a script that is a total mock-off. something about zombies. it's not new.

Where was the other page? That was on Oceanic Airlines was'nt it? LostLinks used to have all the hidden stuff from there on one page but it's not there anymore...

:confused:

[Dagolu]

heh the zombie walt part was pretty different from what actually happened in abandoned

[Richardstone]

Here's are the other two joke script pages...

http://www.oceanic-air.com/images/oa_front-letter1a.jpg

http://lostpedia.com/images/e/e5/Lost_script.jpg

[littlelabrynth]

I don't remember anyone talking about this yet, but does everybody remember those Hoffitt Films that are more than likely fan made? It was kinda a big deal that some of the images in the Hanso Industries film appeared to be originals of some of the images we saw during the Hanso Foundation Psychology Orientation video during the shutdown.

Well, they have posted 2 more videos on YouTube. About two weeks ago they posted one called The Island (http://youtube.com/watch?v=huvHc997Nxs)...nothing noteworthy there. I guess it's supposed to be LOST related, but it is BORING.

The newest one is about a week old and is called White Magic (http://youtube.com/watch?v=liGh3eqNiTA). At first it does not seem to really have anything to connect it to LOST, but at about the 4 minute mark, you see this image:
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5568/d51qd7.th.jpg (http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=d51qd7.jpg)

and at about the 4:40 mark you see this image:

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7052/d11co5.th.jpg (http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=d11co5.jpg)

In the video, a human interacts with these images showing how the effects were created.

Since we have never had a definitive answer (that I can remember) about whether HoffittFilms is fan made or not, I decided to place this in the ALL-Fraud Thread. Please feel free to move if it should be someplace else. Just thought I would share the information.

[LostEmissary]

I don't remember anyone talking about this yet, but does everybody remember those Hoffitt Films that are more than likely fan made? It was kinda a big deal that some of the images in the Hanso Industries film appeared to be originals of some of the images we saw during the Hanso Foundation Psychology Orientation video during the shutdown.I can't remember where I saw this, but someone went through frame by frame and there wasn't a single image shared between the two videos. I think someone once claimed that there were images used in both videos, but then backtracked when they realized they were just confusing the two videos.


Since we have never had a definitive answer (that I can remember) about whether HoffittFilms is fan made or not, I decided to place this in the ALL-Fraud Thread. Please feel free to move if it should be someplace else. Just thought I would share the information.Although nothing is ever 100% sure, I'd say that there is only the smallest iota of all possibilities that the Hoffit stuff is "real." It's fan made.

[Dagolu]

hey I've done some searching and found that www.vikinstitute.com (http://www.vikinstitute.com) is a registered domain name but isn't a site yet. also, I found a fake website. www.conspiraspies.com (http://www.conspiraspies.com) is completely fake because it pretty much says it at the bottom.

cheers!

[lostfan107]

guy at my work said he found a link on one of the LOST hanso foundation sites to what looks like a new hanso site. Maybe it hasn't been officially launched yet. Went to it and found a link to an "airline injury" lawyer at the top. Interesting. Is it legit? Any thoughts? It's got a link at the bottom to ABC and a legal statement from ABC and Disney. So should be legit I think.
www.hansolegal.com (http://hansolegal.com)

[Daniel]

Uuh..Google ads? I don't think an official site would have these things.

[Noav Sigless]

The Webmaze mods will have a much better idea of where to put this thread than I.

[littlelabrynth]

Here is the whois (http://whois.com/images/but_whois_lookup.gif) info:
Domain Name: HANSOLEGAL.COM
Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: PARK32.SECURESERVER.NET
Name Server: PARK31.SECURESERVER.NET
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
EPP Status: clientDeleteProhibited
EPP Status: clientUpdateProhibited
EPP Status: clientTransferProhibited
EPP Status: clientRenewProhibited
Updated Date: 13-Sep-2006
Creation Date: 13-Sep-2006
Expiration Date: 13-Sep-2007
I'm pretty sure this one is another fake.

[truffula]

Looks fan made to me too....merging with ALL FRAUD. :)

[manar]

This site does not look legit at all :

first of all it's as amateurish as it gets .

second : a look at the whois shows that , while still made through proxy domains , the domain was taken for one year and that's not abc policy you see , plus .

third : http://oseanicairlines.com/ is the same site you see ;)
and there we get :

Registrant:
Switzer, MICHAEL
24822 EMBAJADORES LN
MISSION VIEJO, CA 92691-5221
US

Domain Name: OSEANICAIRLINES.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Switzer, MICHAEL http://img.domaintools.com/email.pgif?md5=923a69525e6e6cb25647e5b9e277a34a (http://whois.domaintools.com/domain-privacy/)
24822 EMBAJADORES LN
MISSION VIEJO, CA 92691-5221
US
949-293-9465 fax: 123 123 1234

Record expires on 24-Oct-2006.
Record created on 24-Oct-2005.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS31.WORLDNIC.COM 205.178.190.16
NS32.WORLDNIC.COM 205.178.189.16

not very abc right ?

so I'm not even going for the fourth point lol


ETA : puting an abc legal notice in a site without abc permission IS illegal and can lead to serious trouble ( a bon entendeur , salut )

[minywheats]

that site is so lame, the pic of the lawyers back to back made me roll my eyes

[Dagolu]

I read that hansolegal is godaddy hosted. so is vikinstitute. a hint that this unlaunched site is fake but not proof

[LostEmissary]

so I'm not even going for the fourth point lol
Which is that oceanic is spelled wrong? ;)

[snakey]

LE, that's a biggie , eh? pretty funny too. Manar, the Morrocan Ninja to the rescue, now we can all rest easier knowing he is always lurking to fight the power. good to see you bruthaman.

[ISIS]

Will someone please go to the HANSOLEGAL site and click the NEXTgencode ad..go to the staff and see if Dahlia Mullin PhD is Ms. Klugh?

http://www.hansolegal.com/

[truffula]

Definitely not her.
I would provide comparison caps, but I'm in the middle of a million different things. :p
Take my word for it, HansoLegal is a fansite. I personally haven't checked it out too much yet, but from what I saw when it first popped up it was clearly fan run.

Hope it gets interesting. :)

Peace,
Truff

[ISIS]

Yes thank-you truff; your reply was most helpful.

[chaz]

Anyone get this email?


Hanso Adoptions
Notice: Anomalies Found

Hello Chaz,

Our researchers are discovering anomalies near the Philadelphia area, that may be altering specific uniformity around the globe.

A recent memo was sent to all current sponsors citing a global study of an imperative nature. As your area may hold the key to our research, your participation in any capacity, is wholly welcomed.

We do not take any applicant's time or service lightly.
By participating in any off-site reseach, you may be entitled to financial compensation, in addition to any inner peace and happiness our programs may provide.

Those committed to a global future may apply here:
A Global Community (http://www.hansoadoptions.org/a_global_community/)

Namaste,

Art K.
HansoAdoptions.org (http://www.hansoadoptions.org/)

[truffula]

Hanso Adoptions is a fan site that popped up as soon as we heard the name "Benjamin Linus" on the show. There is a thread in spinoffs if you wanna post the email there too. :)