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see you in the next life
05-03-06, 03:14 PM
In the event it should be needed.

see you in the next life
05-03-06, 05:33 PM
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see you in the next life
05-03-06, 05:34 PM
let's catch fish all day and thrown them away...... placeholder

see you in the next life
05-03-06, 05:35 PM
what did one snowman say to the other? placeholder

see you in the next life
05-03-06, 05:36 PM
Everyone 108 minutes you must check the NEW Hanso website.


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trailgoat
05-03-06, 07:42 PM
I checked for a Paik.com. It says it is under construction. The whois info says the current owners are world-space.com and that their site ownership expires on the 17th of this month. If World-space is a real company--their business must suck. The only google hit I got was for their site, which doesn't do much.
That is all! :)

Penelope
05-03-06, 07:59 PM
www.paik.org (http://www.paik.org) exists but the site is in Korean....don't think this is it.

The_Island
05-03-06, 08:01 PM
www.paik.org (http://www.paik.org) exists but the site is in Korean....don't think this is it.

try running the sit thru a translator...dont dismiss that so quicky.

ETA, now having looked at the site...it doesnt look (visually) like it is related

see you in the next life
05-03-06, 08:03 PM
Looks interesting, but probably not it. However, wouldn't it be wild if we needed a Korean team to decipher clues from an official Paik Heavy Industries.com site?

bcool1956
05-03-06, 08:04 PM
I'll volunteer to work with Sun on that one

see you in the next life
05-03-06, 08:12 PM
yeah, as long as it is under cover work.

PandoraX
05-03-06, 08:43 PM
Looks interesting, but probably not it. However, wouldn't it be wild if we needed a Korean team to decipher clues from an official Paik Heavy Industries.com site?

I have often wondered if anyone on the LOST-TV site is fluent in Korean... I've always thought that it's a shame I haven't been able to find any here, it'd be useful to have a "go-to-guy". My boyfriend is half Korean but doesn't speak... but I have some friends that do that I could possibly call up. It would be easiest if we just had a regular here, though. I know that over at lostlinks, HonoluluRob and a few other guys are Korean fans that help with the nonsubtitled translations.

see you in the next life
05-03-06, 08:47 PM
Since the show has been groundbreaking in that language area, it seems fitting that we should get clues that require participation from Korean speaking fans. No?

supermodel
05-03-06, 08:51 PM
I have a friend I can pull in on specific tasks, born in S. Korea and raised here, she speaks fluently and reads well. She has translated a few items I've sent to her in the past few months. But I probably can't get her in here full-time, she works in a biotech lab so doesn't have unlimited compy time during the day. Also, she thinks I am a bit of a geek for being so into this stuff. Kind of not a fair remark coming from a Hopkins Ph.D., but I digress.

Hm, I guess she might also be helpful on biology questions. And if we need any rats killed or livers dissected.

LostWriter
05-03-06, 09:34 PM
Paik Heavy Industries .. P.H.I.

PHI is also the golden ratio that has been discussed in other forums related to "the numbers."

1.61803399

lostscape
05-04-06, 04:30 PM
For what it is worth http://www.paikheavyindustry.com/

this site was purchased only yesterday, so I wouldn't put much credence into it.

Penelope
05-04-06, 05:34 PM
For what it is worth http://www.paikheavyindustry.com/

this site was purchased only yesterday, so I wouldn't put much credence into it.


FYI - I checked on this site yesterday morning, and it did not exist, - as such if something appears on it, I agree with Scape, we should be leery.

cameronbh206
05-05-06, 11:00 AM
There is invisible text on the site:
PHI
OP: hold
SLP: continue
ZP: continue

최후

The last two symbols are Korean. Together they translate as "end". Although I agree that the whole thing is a little suspect

Penelope
05-05-06, 11:49 AM
Here is the whois information for www.paikheavyindustries.com (http://www.paikheavyindustries.com)


Registrant:
Contactprivacy.com
96 Mowat Ave
Toronto, ON M6K 3M1
CA

Domain name: PAIKHEAVYINDUSTRIES.COM

Administrative Contact:
contactprivacy.com, http://www.whois-search.com/text2image.php?id=UScAYQM5VDgJYQVgUjEBIgcrBz9VOwVh VCADeQR0VihRPlYzVnYAKQRnUzwDbAEUVWNQblQ6UCQHZ1Q+An IDf1ElAGkDJlQyCWoFfFJ+ATcHPQc7
96 Mowat Ave
Toronto, ON M6K 3M1
CA

Technical Contact:
contactprivacy.com, http://www.whois-search.com/text2image.php?id=VyEAYVFrUz8AaANmVDdQcwklATkDbQpu AXUHfQJyAnxVOgVgVnYGLwlqAW4HaAseAjQBPwJsC38EZFU/UiIGelcjAGlRdFM1AGMDelR4UGYJMwE9
96 Mowat Ave
Toronto, ON M6K 3M1
CA

Registration Service Provider:
iPowerWeb, http://www.whois-search.com/text2image.php?id=BmgBbgQkUCMGa1c2CXgCIwk5UHNXF1Y/CXgEYgFyBm8GcgN0ATcGY1J8BWZWOwY+
Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 05-May-2006.
Record expires on 05-May-2007.
Record created on 05-May-2006.

*I omitted the phone and IP for privacy.

Lab
05-07-06, 06:46 AM
Moving thread to Spin-off Sub-Forum, will move back to LE ARG Sub-forum if determined to be part of The Game.

Rocky Raccoon
05-07-06, 06:02 PM
There's a paik-heavy.com too.

Registered on May 4th.

cameronbh206
05-08-06, 07:19 PM
The www.paik-heavy.com (http://www.paik-heavy.com) says it is currently unavailable but has a phone number to contact Peter Thompson and a list of current projects and their status's with one VERY interesting project number!!!

Contract Number Status Level 2407081121 Green - 1 2407045221 Green - 2 4815162342 Orange - 4 4161624778 Green - 1 4161624788 Green - 1 4161624942 Green - 2

cameronbh206
05-08-06, 07:27 PM
Also, I tried the number given for Thompson but it said the call could not be completed as dialed. Could the colors and status levels be another code? what does Paik Ind. do?

Contract Number Status Level
2407081121 Green - 1
2407045221 Green - 2
4815162342 Orange - 4
4161624778 Green - 1
4161624788 Green - 1
4161624942 Green - 2

Do we know if this is a "real" site or a fake?

see you in the next life
05-08-06, 07:49 PM
We think the site is not legitimate. This has not been confirmed.

Chuck
05-09-06, 09:27 PM
http://www.paik-heavy.com/ has a string of numbers at the bottom of the page that link to:
http://www.paik-heavy.com/persephone.htm
It has more numbers on it.

While it looks like this site is not "real" decoding the numbers might help prove it one way or the other.

Penelope
05-09-06, 09:33 PM
http://www.paik-heavy.com/ has a string of numbers at the bottom of the page that link to:
http://www.paik-heavy.com/persephone.htm
It has more numbers on it.

While it looks like this site is not "real" decoding the numbers might help prove it one way or the other.

HANSO FOUNDATION & Widmore Construction are in the source, not that it legitimizes it. Good find Chuck!

Chuck
05-09-06, 09:41 PM
Hrm... I just checked source at http://www.paik-heavy.com/persephone.htm
One of the strings of code has a comment next to it:
793a299019b<br /><!--not sure about this one-->

I dont think if it were legit that they would have comment tags like that, but what do I know.

cameronbh206
05-10-06, 05:22 PM
With as much effort as has been put into everything else, the paik-heavy.com website seems like a cheap knock-off done by an amateur. Granted this might be the point but the new stuff added to it almost makes it seem more fake.

supermodel
05-10-06, 07:46 PM
Have you guys cross-posted with ALL-FRAUD? Some great sleuths working that thread.

/end PW

Kathaclysm
05-12-06, 09:10 PM
There musta been some updates to the www.paik-heavy.com cuz now I can also access:
http://www.paik-heavy.com/east_man.htm
Which sends me to
http://www.paik-heavy.com/namaste.htm
and I can put in an e-mail addres...I'm waiting for contact... thou I agree this site seems very unofficial since it was registered after the hanso phone# was given out.

Penelope
05-12-06, 09:16 PM
Kath I put my email in too -- let's see what happens. But yes, the site, compared to Hanso, seems very primitive, not sure its real or not. But worth monitoring.

glantern
05-13-06, 03:30 AM
Just for fun, I ran some of the Blogs throught a Binary translator and here is what I got:

In the Blog 73 109 112 111 114 116 97 110 116 32 85 112 100 97 116 101 (Important Update in ASCII)

Peter Thomspon's first post:
Communication protocol compromised. Some future messages posted here.

and then some silly posts:

who are the others and where is walt.
I am here
I see what you did there
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=173
persephone says this is all lies


In the Blog 67 111 100 101 (Code in ASCII)

Heir Apparent

In the Blog 77 111 114 101 32 73 110 102 111 (More Info in ASCII)

P-H.com use the numbers

etc., etc.

(Wow, that was probaly a huge waste of time!):hammersel :hammersel

rottenralf
05-14-06, 05:24 AM
This url is starting to appear around as well:

http://www.paik-heavy.com/slow-air-demo.php

buckylaserbeam
05-14-06, 06:00 AM
paik sites gotta be a fake

HossDelgado
05-14-06, 08:00 AM
paik sites gotta be a fake

Im thinking maybe the paik-heavy is legit due to the email I recieved and posted in the all email thread


From:"PHI" <peter.h.thompson@gmail.com> Subject:Your help, namaste.Date:Sun, 14 May 2006 00:12:32 -0500
Thanks for offering to help. I'm trying to communicate with someone but it is hard to get the right message through to the right person. This is where I'm hoping you can help.
I need you to confirm that you can help get my message out. Find a public place on the web (blog, personal site, anywhere) where you can post a link to this page: http://www.paik-heavy.com/slow-air-demo.php
It has to be a public site - a page that anyone can see.
If you can include the text "Slow Air Demo" with the link it will help. Click here (http://e2ma.net/go/267120475/212015/6135019/goto:http://www.paik-heavy.com/pht.php) to see an example of what I'm talking about.
The page you're linking to will redirect to another page - but please post this specific link: http://www.paik-heavy.com/slow-air-demo.php
Once you have posted your link, click on the manage your prefernces link below and provide me with the URL of the page where you posted the link. If you have figured out the code, include that too.
Once there are enough links I will be able to get my message out - hopefully in just a few days.
Namaste (http://e2ma.net/go/267120475/212015/6135020/goto:http://www.squidoo.com/phi-eri/)

LostEmissary
05-14-06, 08:55 AM
Im thinking maybe the paik-heavy is legit due to the email I recieved and posted in the all email thread


From:"PHI" <peter.h.thompson@gmail.com> Subject:Your help,
In game characters wouldn't use gmail.

rottenralf
05-14-06, 03:55 PM
In game characters wouldn't use gmail.

Except so far this ARG has thrown the "rule book" out the window.

Penelope
05-14-06, 03:59 PM
So now we have a myspace site for PETE associated with the Paik-Heavy site? http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=77238166
that is what "slow air demo" is referring to?

Hmmm...myspace, gmail....this sounds all to familiar.

buckylaserbeam
05-14-06, 04:00 PM
Except so far this ARG has thrown the "rule book" out the window.

stick that in the reverse engineering site i would love someone there to read that reply. please

Penelope
05-14-06, 04:08 PM
Has anyone seen this link on the Paik-Heavy site?
http://www.squidoo.com/phi-eri/

Here is the whois search results:
Registrant:
Thomas Callahan
Washington, DC 20036
US

244.domain@gmail.com


Domain Name: PAIK-HEAVY.COM

Administrative Contact:
Peter Thompson
Paik-Heavy Industries
544 Orsund Klengvjel
Copenhagen, DK-1604
DK

peter.h.thompson@gmail.com


Technical Contact:
Peter Thompson
544 Orsund Klengvjel
Copenhagen, DK-1604
DK

peter.h.thompson@gmail.com


Domain Name Servers:
NS99.PAIR.COM
NS5.NS0.COM

Transfer-Lock Status: ENABLED

Created: May 4, 2006
Modified: May 4, 2006
Expires: May 4, 2007

buckylaserbeam
05-14-06, 04:35 PM
yes penelope.
if this is not a fake. and it seem that most are starting to believe that. then the all fraud 1st post should be updated. i think that some other updates there are in order also.

theidofbrad
05-14-06, 04:42 PM
Well maybe if enough of us provide the link, a clue will be revealed? It's probably just some guy trying to see how many of us will "fall" for his little prank, but oh well. It's something to do.

http://www.paik-heavy.com/slow-air-demo.php <--- Slow Air Demo

BTW, the website says "Redirect Pending Critical Mass"

Kathaclysm
05-14-06, 05:09 PM
Im thinking maybe the paik-heavy is legit due to the email I recieved and posted in the all email thread


From:"PHI" <peter.h.thompson@gmail.com> Subject:Your help, namaste.Date:Sun, 14 May 2006 00:12:32 -0500
Thanks for offering to help. I'm trying to communicate with someone but it is hard to get the right message through to the right person. This is where I'm hoping you can help.
I need you to confirm that you can help get my message out. Find a public place on the web (blog, personal site, anywhere) where you can post a link to this page: http://www.paik-heavy.com/slow-air-demo.php
It has to be a public site - a page that anyone can see.
If you can include the text "Slow Air Demo" with the link it will help. Click here (http://e2ma.net/go/267120475/212015/6135019/goto:http://www.paik-heavy.com/pht.php) to see an example of what I'm talking about.
The page you're linking to will redirect to another page - but please post this specific link: http://www.paik-heavy.com/slow-air-demo.php
Once you have posted your link, click on the manage your prefernces link below and provide me with the URL of the page where you posted the link. If you have figured out the code, include that too.
Once there are enough links I will be able to get my message out - hopefully in just a few days.
Namaste (http://e2ma.net/go/267120475/212015/6135020/goto:http://www.squidoo.com/phi-eri/)

I got the same exact reply. I kinda have a feeling this is just someone fishin for hits. I still really doubt this site as legit, mostly cuz the date the site launched was after the webmaze started... I would like to think the PTB would register related websites before they released info on them, knowing how fast some ppl are to pick up on every name/company they put out there.

cameronbh206
05-14-06, 08:43 PM
I got the same email reply with the http://www.paik-heavy.com/slow-air-demo.php link. I think that even though it is likely it is a fraud, it is worth following this page along and see where it goes.

truffula
05-14-06, 09:10 PM
Well, it looks like at least for the time being, discissions about www.paik-heavy.com (http://www.paik-heavy.com) are taking place in this thread. I am a little wary of doing this, as this part of the spinoff forum is dedicated to discussion of the Official ARG (and as of now, this site is considered a fan creation). I REALLY want to either move this thread over to the Spinoff subforum, or start up a thread over there to discuss this site. I can't make up my mind right now, so I'm just gonna post my findings here, and deal with moving stuff later :)

Lets see here....
on the /persephone page of the Paik site, there is a hidden link to http://www.paik-heavy.com/4815162342.htm - which translates to "Communications Compromised", last number is a link that goes here - http://www.paik-heavy.com/4815162343.htm - which translates to "Use wikipedia for now", last number is a link that goes here - http://www.paik-heavy.com/4815162344.htm, which translates to "More Tomorrow, Namaste".
I tried /4815162345.htm etc and got nothing.

see you in the next life
05-14-06, 10:15 PM
Why can't we just clear this thread and leave it open and EMPTY!!!!

It was never my intention that this htread involve discussing fan-run sites. It should be left empty until such time as we confirm a legitimate site (if we ever do) and then at that point discussion can take place.

~G~
05-14-06, 11:00 PM
SYINL-

This is from a second email form PHI. I already posted it in All-Email. It was suggested I post it here, also. Probably bunk. If you don't want it here, please delete it.

a = Treasure Hunt (http://www.fxva.com/fxva/promotion.html) question #4, first letter of the correct answer.
b = Quiz (http://www.nwf.org/wildlife/polarbear/) - correct answer to #4
c = Question #6 (http://www.nytimes.com/ref/crosswords/trivia/quiz499.html) - last letter of the correct answer
d = Question #4 (http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz/quiz671177b1a20.html) - first letter of the correct answer
www.paik-heavy.com/abcd.php

Lab
05-15-06, 02:55 AM
Why can't we just clear this thread and leave it open and EMPTY!!!!

It was never my intention that this htread involve discussing fan-run sites. It should be left empty until such time as we confirm a legitimate site (if we ever do) and then at that point discussion can take place.

A thread can be made in the ARG sub-forum at a later date if needed for Paik.

Until ANY Paik site is determined to be an official part of The Lost Experience ARG, discussion of Paikheavyindustries.com and other Paik related websites may continue in the Spin-off sub-forum in this thread.

glantern
05-15-06, 02:55 AM
Just one note, that I may be wrong about, bot on the Hanso voicemail system, isn't it always (at least Thompson and McIntyre) referred to as Paik Heavy Industry (not Industries)?

I have listened to it a few times and I'm fairly certain of this.

However, I'm not sure if it makes a difference in the long run...

By the way, I got the same email. Seems fishy.

Kathaclysm
05-15-06, 03:11 AM
SYINL-

This is from a second email form PHI. I already posted it in All-Email. It was suggested I post it here, also. Probably bunk. If you don't want it here, please delete it.

a = Treasure Hunt (http://www.fxva.com/fxva/promotion.html) question #4, first letter of the correct answer.
b = Quiz (http://www.nwf.org/wildlife/polarbear/) - correct answer to #4
c = Question #6 (http://www.nytimes.com/ref/crosswords/trivia/quiz499.html) - last letter of the correct answer
d = Question #4 (http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz/quiz671177b1a20.html) - first letter of the correct answer
www.paik-heavy.com/ (http://www.paik-heavy.com/)abcd.php
I also got the 2nd e-mail.
Another suspicion of mine stems around that some of the links just plain don't work... the one page never forwards (at least for me), and others are unknown sites. Till I see some definite connection between the known 2 main sites (hanso and troup), I think I'll refrain from futher comment on the Paik site.

ILoveEko
05-15-06, 02:14 PM
Pen gave TI and I the ip from the "Peter" emails - traces to Nashville, TN...
Edit to remove company and link out of respect for them.

Penelope
05-15-06, 02:20 PM
TI found an email address for this site, I emailed the guy the following:

I received the attached email yesterday from someone who has been traced to Cold Feet Creative. This person is attempting to link the website's referenced in the email to an alternate reality game that is sponsored by ABC. This email was sent to a LOT of people and has sparked considerable controversy. I wanted to alert your business of this, as I am sure I am not the only person investigating this matter. If on the other hand your business has been contracted by ABC, it may be advised to alert those receiving the email of this. The 'gmail' address was an obvious red flag, followed by the msypace site.

Thank you for your time and attention to this matter.

Penelope
05-15-06, 04:05 PM
Okay I have spoken to the owner of the business we have traced the email to -- his business IS IN NO WAY assisting ABC with their official game. Out of respect for this nice gentleman, I ask that you all not pester him further. He is not the person who sent the email, I suspect an employee did of his.

www.paik-heavy.com (http://www.paik-heavy.com) has been PROVEN by sufficient evidence to be a fan site.

ETA: see my post 2 below -- there was an investigation update from the site owner, who is very nice!

lostscape
05-15-06, 04:15 PM
BEST sleuthing skills EVER!

Penelope
05-15-06, 04:17 PM
I have received ANOTHER email from the site owner. Apparently, the email we all received was NOT from an employee, after further investigation by himself with my assistance. It was from a client. His business is web based marketing and advertising -- he told me that a client of his could be working with ABC. And it seems he has clients who do contract work for ABC by the cautionary tone in his email.

So this site, while likely a fan site, may be related to the game. Please disregard my previous post -- IMO, not yet enough conclusionary evidence to debunk this one. He is going to contact the client for me to find out one way or another and let me know.

glantern
05-15-06, 04:30 PM
For kicks, I completed the quiz (Polar Bear site is up again, and the answer is 22), plus the answers already given by theidofbrad, thus the link is http://www.paik-heavy.com/g22ab.php.

It gives this message:

There are problems at the Hanso Foundation. People are upset about Troup's (not his real name) book and other things. It's really a mess and the problems have spread to P-H and Widmore. Persephone is probably right, but I don't agree with her approach - I think she has made a mistake - like the king just did. McIntyre is grasping. More on that later.
There are people out there that can help and I'm trying to reach those people. I know they have access to my messages, but so do others, which makes things difficult. They are on alert but it takes just one lone rat to learn how to use a lent oar - then I'm sunk. I'm looking for a safe kite, something I can use to get messages through.
I have to move again.
6F66666C696E6520666F72206120636F75706C65206F662064 61797300
77696C6C20757064617465204D6F6E64617900 (http://www.squidoo.com/phi-eri/)

This link goes to the squidoo page, and points out that the answer to b is 22 by counting the position of the first "S" in the latest press release.
:DeadHorse:
Finally, doesn't it seem odd that Peter Thompson would be performing the contacting, when Mittlewrk stated in his voicemail that he would be doing it?

truffula
05-15-06, 04:33 PM
Excellent work Pen!! :D
Keep us posted!! :)

Anyone get any furter with the puzzle on this site yet?
ETA - I see it has been solved :)

LostEmissary
05-16-06, 02:15 AM
Except so far this ARG has thrown the "rule book" out the window.Really? I haven't really seen that. There really is no rule book in an ARG anyway, but there are certain things that creators do to maintain the integrity of the game.

It's critical for us to be able to identify what's in-game vs. what's "fake." That's very important. The game creators don't want unofficial sources tainting the storyline. If the creators use gmail, it leaves the door wide open to impersonators, which will cause nothing but confusion... what's a real e-mail, what's not... it's bad enough already, but if they start using free e-mail sites, etc, things would get so mucked up by fakers, that the game would be in jeopardy.

Any official correspondance will likely come from an in-game domain, not a free e-mail site, most especially for an ARG with the kind of funding that this one has.

bcool1956
05-16-06, 02:11 PM
I think that is a very good point

rottenralf
05-17-06, 03:23 AM
Any official correspondance will likely come from an in-game domain, not a free e-mail site, most especially for an ARG with the kind of funding that this one has.

The point being most ARG's have about zero funding, so they do use as many "free" options as they can. What they do will not be typical. And while "fake" sites can muddle the waters it's not their job to sort it out for us, and they have never been shy about throwing out a number of red herrings themselves.

LostEmissary
05-17-06, 05:01 AM
The point being most ARG's have about zero funding, so they do use as many "free" options as they can. What they do will not be typical. And while "fake" sites can muddle the waters it's not their job to sort it out for us, and they have never been shy about throwing out a number of red herrings themselves.I definitely know what you're saying, but I don't think using free e-mail addresses is even something that happens in low budget ARGs. If there are websites in an ARG (and there always are), domains and websites come with e-mail addresses included.

Throwing out red herrings is one thing - but throwing out a red herring that allows imposters to "copy cat" the red herring is another. As I said, using a gmail or yahoo address will open the door wide open for people to impersonate in-game characters, which again, can jeopardize the integrity of the story.

More than anything, my point is that we should be extremely skeptical of any e-mail corresponance that doesn't come from an in-game domain.

glantern
05-22-06, 01:59 AM
6F66666C696E6520666F72206120636F75706C65206F662064 61797300
77696C6C20757064617465204D6F6E64617900 (http://www.squidoo.com/phi-eri/)


By the way, the first translates to "offline for a couple of days", and the second, "will update Monday"

trailgoat
05-23-06, 01:32 PM
In the source code of the main page, www.paik-heavy.com (http://www.paik-heavy.com) the following images and links are listed: /bt-2-tt.jpg, /my-notes.php and /my-notes.jpg, and /map.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f313/trailgoat/bt-2-tt.jpg(bt-2-tt) http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f313/trailgoat/my-notes.jpg(my-notes)(looks like Bad Twin) http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f313/trailgoat/map.jpg(map)(I made this bigger)

The map pic looks like the g9als2002 pic from hole2.thehansofoundation.org (which is also in the code), only much smaller. The my-notes link goes to an ebay auction for Bad Twin.
Until it gives a clue not found elsewhere, I will continue to believe it is fan-run.

rottenralf
05-23-06, 03:01 PM
But you leftout the best part of the ebay auctions. It is an auction for a copy of Bad Twin and is being sold by Peter Thompson (zero feedback btw) and 10% of the proceeds is going to a charity called NamasteDirect:

The mission of NamasteDirect (a project of Namaste Foundation) is ending poverty in poor families through microcredit loans. We link donors in the US to first-time, rural, mostly women borrowers in Central America. We connect donors with the recipients through web-based experiences, donor journeys, and snail-mail. We report on results on the basis of the specific group of women to which a donor's money went. We deliver an extraordinarily high percentage of unrestricted donations to beneficiaries.

Rabies
05-31-06, 07:26 PM
So I've been watching Season one (in sequence!). I just finished disc 4 of the DVD collection. I was surprised to notice that Sun's maiden name (and of course her father's name) is Paik.

So so far now after 2 seasons we have people who know Widmores, and now people related to the Paiks.

Sorry if this has already been brought up. I just have never seen it mentioned in the Hanso Foundation threads I've read.

Rabies
05-31-06, 07:28 PM
Ehhh... delete this thread. I see it's been mention in the All-Characters thread. :-)

Lab
05-31-06, 07:28 PM
Welcome Rables. I am going to merge your post with the Paik thread in Spin-off.

ETA: Yes, there is the mention in the All-Characters Thread.

glantern
06-05-06, 02:04 AM
The paik-heavy.com site, and the realted phi-eri, Squidoo and Peter Thompson my space sites have been admitted to by the author to be "fake" (their words) that was


An experiment with fans of Lost and the Lost Experience

There are still blogs, but they discuss the experiment (such as it was).

I was going to recomment that this thread be locked, but there might still be an official ARG site related to Paik Heavy Industy.

Lab
06-05-06, 02:38 AM
Nice heads up, glantern. :D

Got a link to where you got the info from?

We can leave the thread open here for anyone who still may want to discuss that site. If we end up needing one for Paik later for the ARG, we can deal with that then.

Rabies
06-08-06, 03:09 PM
Though I haven't found any official Paik sites either, there IS mention of Paik Industries (or Paik Heavy Industries?) in the phone messages you can listen to by calling the Hanso 1-800 number.

see you in the next life
06-23-06, 01:00 PM
Okay, rachelblake.com has now brought Paik into play in the ARG. At what point should this thread be returned to the Lost Experience sub-forum?

Penelope
06-23-06, 01:05 PM
Okay, rachelblake.com has now brought Paik into play in the ARG. At what point should this thread be returned to the Lost Experience sub-forum?

when we confirm a site affiliated with the ARG I guess. Right now, much of this thread is about sites that are unofficial. I suggest Paik theories and ideas be discussed in Rachel's thread until we have an actual site that may go with Paik. :)

see you in the next life
06-23-06, 01:08 PM
agree. I hope that in Phase II or III there will be an "official" site for Paik. I am really interested in the "big antenna in the middle of the ocean."

Lawboy
05-16-08, 04:51 PM
**BUMP**

Now that Sun owns a controlling interest in Paik, wonder how that will factor into what we saw in TLE? Will it be Sun who sends the Paik ship to the island for a rescue mission??

Just a thought....