The Valenzetti Equation

[see you in the next life]

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Enzo

I just got an e-mail from an astute reader. She didn't say much, but she strongly sugested I check out the WIKI article for Valenzetti.
So I did. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valenzetti)
At the moment it seems VERY accurate.
PS - The Wiki article has been deleted, but the original text is contained near the top of this article (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Valenzetti).


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The Valenzetti Equation was an attempted Internet hoax propagated by the creators of the TV show Lost (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_%28TV_series%29) as part of an alternative reality game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_reality_game).
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Valenzetti

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[edit (http://www.lostpedia.com/index.php?title=Valenzetti&action=edit&section=1)]
On Lost

"Valenzetti" is mentioned on the blast door map (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Blast_door_map) where a zone on the island is of "low relevance to Valenzetti-related research activity"
Gary Troup (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Gary_Troup) wrote a now out-of-print book called The Valenzetti Equation (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/The_Valenzetti_Equation) about the reclusive Princeton University mathematician, Enzo Valenzetti, and his apocalyptic equation.[edit (http://www.lostpedia.com/index.php?title=Valenzetti&action=edit&section=2)]
In The Lost Experience (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/The_Lost_Experience)

Valenzetti's entry in Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valenzetti) is cited by Speaker (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Speaker) as "VERY accurate," suggesting that it was created by the game's puppetmasters. One of the IP address (71.140.128.230) editing the entry is registered to Javier Grillo-Marxuach (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Javier_Grillo-Marxuach). The entry as of May 10, 2006 (although subsequently tagged for deletion per Wikipedia's policies on fiction & hoaxes):Valenzetti
(Content of this page relates to the fiction world of the television show LOST)
Though shrouded in mystery, this much is known about the Valenzetti Equation: it is a mathematical calculation designed to predict nothing less than the exact number of years left before the extinction of the human race. Although little is known about the circumstances leading to the creation of the equation, mystery novelist Gary Troup put forward an interesting theory in his sole non-fiction book "The Valenzetti Equation" (a fair-to-middling tome which owes as much to popular conspiracy fiction as it does to higher mathematics).
According to Troup - whose research is primarily based on interviews with "UN members" willing to break their non-disclosure agreements, and recently declassified Soviet files - the equation was the end result of a study commissioned by the United Nations following the Cuban Missile Crisis. With their respective nations having just faced the very precipice of mutually-assured destruction, the United States and Soviet Union - under the auspices of the Security Council - secretly sought Valenzetti out as a disinterested third party and charged him with the creation of an infallible mathematical algorithm for the prediction of Armageddon.
Less than a year later, Valenzetti returned with his eponymous equation - which, reportedly, is not unlike the Drake Equation (sometimes mistakenly referred to as the "Sagan Equation"), but far greater in complexity. Because of the conditions of secrecy under which Valenzetti produced his work, the totality of the equation has never been brought to light, nor has his final tally for the number of years left before the human race extinguishes itself with nuclear fire. Compounding the mystery is Valenzetti's steadfast refusal to discuss his work (he is best known for allegedly torching his proof of Fermat's last theorem after it was verified by a group of colleagues). Valenzetti’s mysterious death and Gary Troup's disappearance (and presumed death) on Oceanic Airlines flight 815, which was lost over the pacific on September 2004. [edit]
Enzo Valenzetti Very little is known about Enzo Valenzetti, save that he was born in the island of Sardinia sometime in the late 1920's. Identified as a math prodigy from an early age, Valenzetti attended the prestigious Fibonacci State Institute of Advanced Sciences early in life - achieving the equivalent of a full doctorate before the age of sixteen - but his strident desire for privacy, compounded by a gag order placed on his personal information by the Italian government - reportedly in exchange for his services - has thwarted even the most intense of inquiries into his career and movements, and Valenzetti’s death silenced many who sought to tell his story. Similarly, Valenzetti has never published his research - but his reputation is legendary among mathematicians and scientists alike.
As a young man, Valenzetti reportedly spent a significant amount of time in the company of such luminaries as Kurt Godel, Albert Einstein, and John Forbes Nash, but, as no record exists of his having had a tenure at any major academic institution, it is difficult to establish his exact contributions to the field. Most controversial among those who follow advanced mathematics is the contention, made by several prominent figures in the early sixties, that Valenzetti was first to devise a proof of Fermat's last theorem - a proof verified by several colleagues - only to throw the completed work in the fire so that - according to his former assistant - "other could have as much fun as he did in solving it."
Valenzetti's most legendary contribution is said to be his eponymous equation. Anecdotal reports indicate that Valenzetti, at the request of the United Nations, devised a complicated algorithm capable of predicting the exact date of the extinction of the human race. As with so many things relating to Valenzetti, the actual equation has never been seen. The result of Valenzetti's equation remains unknown and is the subject of much speculation. Sadly the answers to many of the mysteries of Valenzetti’s life vanished with him after his single-engine plane crashed during a trans-European flight.
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I WONDER IF THIS MEANS THEY HAVE COMPLETELY SCRAPPED THE IDEA?


ALSO AT WIKIPEDIA:

On the Internet

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This article contains information that does not officially belong to the LOST mythos. It may refer to an influence, homage, satire or similar, but does not serve as part of the overarching story line.
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There are a few websites at the moment that refer to Enzo Valenzetti, but they are mostly blogs or fan created sites. According to Speaker (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Speaker), the Valenzetti Foundation does not exist and any web references to it are fake.
On 26 March 2006 someone "registered (http://www.dailychanges.com/detail/?ns=REGISTER.COM&date=2006-03-26&net=-102&changes=2514&act=n)" the domains valenzetti.com, thevalenzettiequation.com, enzovalenzetti.com and valenzettiequation.com (in the same column there is an ABC-SITES.COM too). The episode aired three days later, so someone related to the show probably registered them.
There is a fake site at http://www.valenzettifoundation.org (http://www.valenzettifoundation.org/)
The person who runs the site says he is Enrico Valenzetti, however, whois [?] reports show that a man named Gavin Dougtie is the site administrator.
Enrico says he loves to travel on Oceanic, and he has a blog indicating that he is currently stationed in Zanzibar.
In the sponsor page of the site, it is stated that widmorelaboratories.com provided all of the food for their expeditions, another unverified website.
If you go to http://www.widmorelaboratories.com (http://www.widmorelaboratories.com/), you find names and descriptions of several products they make for "Dharma" and "Infinity."
There is a link for http://methusalabs.com (http://methusalabs.com/), cited by "Enrico Valenzetti" as a "life extension supplier." The Methusalabs products include daily and monthly injections for life extension. This site is part of a fan-created ARG for Alias (http://www.lostpedia.com/index.php?title=Alias&action=edit), and is definitely not part of The Lost Experience (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/The_Lost_Experience).
Enrico also cites "Big Spaceship" as a sponsor. This links to [1] (http://bigspaceship1.org/) which lists, as its "Division Staff," Dr. Marvin Candle (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Marvin_Candle), Dr. Orin Selenici, and Dr. Sharon Alva. The letters of "Sharon Alva" can be jumbled to form "Alvar Hanso (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Alvar_Hanso)." Bigspaceship1.org is noted to be a Fansite (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Fansite)
Milo Rambaldi (a fictional character from Alias) is noted on the valenzetti foundations website as being a relative of Velenzetti

[rottenralf]

In the first page of the Widmore thread www.widmorelaboratories.com (http://www.widmorelaboratories.com) is shown to be a fan site. The home page of that site also says it is a fan site (near the bottom).

[twinkletoesx]

This looks like the right place to post the research I just finished on this article.

Pseudo-Scientific Research on this Valenzetti Article
The Speaker-endorsed Valenzetti article brings up following mathematical accomplishments of Enzo Valenzetti, supposedly he resolved the following mathematical problems or expanded on them. This might make up the Valenzetti research on the island and I drew several conclusions. Follows some brief layman's research on the mentioned math & science:
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Fermat's Last Theorum
Valenzetti article says:
"Valenzetti was first to devise a proof of Fermat's last theorem - a proof verified by several colleagues - only to throw the completed work in the fire so that - according to his former assistant - "other could have as much fun as he did in solving it."
Why is this mentioned: I think to imply how smart Enzo Valenzetti is for figuring out a 350 year old math problem. In addition possibly we are to use the xyz equation below somewhere again.

Research:
http://www.bath.ac.uk/~ma2mto/fermat.html
Pierre De Fermat
>Born on 17th August 1601 in Beaumont-de-Lomagne, France.
>Was struck down by the plague in 1653, but he didn't die.
>However it was during this time that Fermat worked on number theory. It was for this that he became famous, in particular for Fermat's last theorum. This theorum states:
[see article link cant duplicate it here]
has no non-zero integer solutions for x,y and z for n is greater than 2"

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0802713319/104-9071531-0089523?v=glance&n=283155
Book Name:
"Fermat's Enigma: The Epic Quest to Solve the World's Greatest Mathematical Problem (Hardcover)
"In the 17th century, a French judicial assistant and amateur mathematician, Pierre De Fermat, produced many brilliant ideas in the field of number theory. The Greeks were aware of many whole number solutions to the Pythagorean theorem, where the sum of two perfect squares is a perfect square. Fermat stated that no whole number solutions exist if higher powers replace the squares in this equation. He left a message in the margin of a notebook that he had a proof, but that there was insufficient space there to write it down. His note was found posthumously, but the solution remained a mystery for 350 years. Finally, after working in isolation for eight years, Andrew Wiles, a young British mathematician at Princeton University, published a proof in 1995. Although this famous question has been resolved, many more remain unsolved..."
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The Drake Equation
Valenzetti article says: "...charged him with the creation of an infallible mathematical algorithm for
the prediction of Armageddon. Less than a year later, Valenzetti returned with his eponymous equation - which, reportedly, is not unlike the Drake Equation (sometimes mistakenly referred to as the "Sagan Equation"), but far greater in complexity."
Why is this mentioned: ON face value a more complicated Drake equation about number of civilizations in the universe, is not really a logical comparison to armageddon research. But it may be a clue that the science activity revolved around testing different variables and supporting multiplicity of something or other (i.e. multiple reality)

Research:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation
"The Drake equation (also known as the Green Bank equation or the Sagan equation) is a famous result in the speculative fields of xenobiology,astrosociobiology and the search for extraterrestrial intelligence.
This equation was devised by Dr. Frank Drake (a professor at the University of California, Santa Cruz) in the 1960s in an attempt to estimate the number of extraterrestrial civilizations in our galaxy with which we might come in contact.... It was cited by Gene Roddenberry as supporting the multiplicity of starfaring civilizations shown in Star Trek, the television show he created."

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Eponymous Equation - what does that mean?
Eponym - means 1. eponym - the name of a person for whom something is supposedly named; "Constantine I is the eponym for Constantinople"
Eponymyous Equation - means Valenzettie Equation was named after Enzo Valenzetti

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Fibonacci
Valenzetti article says: "Valenzetti attended the prestigious Fibonacci State Institute of Advanced Sciences early in life"
Why is this mentioned: I don't know possibly for the film and book passages in the Da Vinci code or golden receptable and golden spiral. The Numbers might be measurements or natural and classical proportions, such as hatches might be in a classical diagram, a numerical pattern may emerge later.

Research:
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Fibonacci+number

"Fibonacci numbers: In other words: one starts with 0 and 1, and then produces the next Fibonacci number by adding the two previous Fibonacci numbers. The first Fibonacci numbers (sequence in OEIS) for n = 0, 1, ... are
0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233, 377, 610, 987, 1597, 2584, 4181, 6765, 10946, …

"The Fibonacci sequence plays a prominent part in the bestselling novel The Da Vinci Code and, with the concepts of the golden rectangle and golden spiral, in Darren Aronofsky's indie film π (1998)..."

Also found in ABC Responses Posted today by Speaker:

"Fibonacci references a mathematician and a really great number sequence that relates to the golden section/golden proportion that was used extensively in classical architecture. The sequence of numbers can be "used to describe a number of shapes and proportions in nature such as the spiral found in seashells and many relative proportions of the human body. It is an intersection of math and nature.
Posted by: fibonacciworks | May 10, 2006 at 08:08 PM"

[twinkletoesx]

As a footnote here's the Drake Equation, referenced above:

The Drake equation states that:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/c/5/7/c57fe678db3cb8c47ca58c85bd5d41c2.png where:
N is the number of civilizations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilization) in our galaxy with which we might expect to be able to communicate at any given time and
R* is the rate of star (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star) formation in our galaxy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milky_Way)
fp is the fraction of those stars which have planets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet)
ne is average number of planets which can potentially support life (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life) per star that has planets
fl is the fraction of the above which actually go on to develop life
fi is the fraction of the above which actually go on to develop intelligent life
fc is the fraction of the above which are willing and able to communicate
L is the expected lifetime of such a civilization

source -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation)

[MichelaOS]

so have we confirmed that enrico valzetti is not connected to the game?

[rottenralf]

so have we confirmed that enrico valzetti is not connected to the game?

I can confirm that the valenzetti site is a fan site, but looking at the owners resume I can't 100% say that it isn't connected to the ARG.

[twinkletoesx]

Hi Rottenralf nice to see you around again.

Breaking news (at least breaking news to me:)
I Looked up the name Enzo, in Italian it can be short for Vincenzo, which is an Italian variant of Vincent.

Now I admit this is funny at first, but could the plane have crashed to bring Vincent the dog down to the Island? And it was all to get Vincent the dog to Hanso? Like someone learned he descendend from a dog litter owned by theValenzetti family and has been carrying the Valenzetti Equation in a little capsule under his fur under his shoulder blade inside his dog ID capsule...

DUDE it all makes sense, I think I've had my greatest revelation yet. Messages can be hidden in microchips in dogs. A message decoding the Valenzetti Equation would be worth taking a plane down for!! Remember how the first vision Jack had on the island was Vincent when he woke up, separated from the plane. The dog would be fine because they already removed his little message capsule before Jack ever woke up. They are working to decode it now, but they'd want to take Walter for questioning, to see if and what he knows about the dog he should not know from childhood, etc. I think I am going to roll over laughing! The Valenzetti Equation was in Vincent the dog.

Heres an anagram I worked out last night which got me thinking of the Dog as so important:
Enzo Valenzetti ===> Zealot Vincent

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From http://www.behindthename.com/php/view.php?name=enzo

ENZO = Gender: Masculine Usage: Italian . The meaning of this name is uncertain. It could be an old Italian form of HEINZ; it could derive from Germanic ent "giant"; or it could be a short form of names ending in enzo, such as VINCENZO.

VINCENZO = Gender: Masculine Usage: Italian. Italian form of VINCENT

VINCENT = Gender: Masculine Usage: English, French, Dutch, Danish, Swedish, Slovak . Pronounced: VIN-sent (English), ven-SAWN (French) [key] . From the Roman name Vincentius, which was from Latin vincere "to conquer". This was the name of several saints.

[signnprincess]

ok im new here so excuse me if im way off sorry but readin this is so interesting


about the dog it makes sense because did walt say "hows vincent?" like of all things he was concerned about the dog!

someone on another thread was talkin about how anyone in the group (should they be with the others in disquise) could be sendin messages back and forth......could vincent (the dog) be used to send messages also?


like i said sorry for cuttin in (i know new people jumpin in can be irritating) but im really gettin into all this and just had to post =) thanks

[twinkletoesx]

Hi signprinces you make a great point to me: Vincents's capacity to run around sharing messages. I have not heard anyone say that and messages being delivered is a current theme.

[awesome_cupcake]

I just think TPTB are poking fun at Dan Brown and the Da Vinci Code.
The way he looks in that Book Talk interview is totally a spoof of Dan Brown. There Dan below..i couldn't find a cap of the Gary interview

http://gblx.cache.el-mundo.net/elmundo/imagenes/2005/03/23/1111598877_1.jpg

New new month: Da Vinci's Bad Twin Valenzetti's Equation Code 2 by Dary Broup

[puget sound]

I was thinking about the book that Gray Troup wrote on "predicting when humanity dies in nuclear firestorm" (to paraphrase the summary). Then it occurred to me that the equation described in the book is like the Doomsday Clock, which shows a rough estimate of how likely nuclear war is. I think that the summery is actually hype and that the equation actually predicts the chances of a nuclear war happening at any moment, based to international relations. Alvar Hanso is probably obsessed with living forever, but can't do it in an event of a nuclear war. So he hires people to monitor international affairs 24-7 to alert him if the time comes. For more information, look up “Doomsday Clock” on Wikipedia.

[Lab]

Gonna merge with Valenzetti thread.

Very nice, puget sound. :)

[PandoraX]

Great connections, puget, welcome your contributions :)

I also believe this is close to the tie in of Valenzetti to our story... and the other link is to Hanso's goals of "building sophisticated weapons systems" (something that will counteract or supercede nuclear weapons?) and the fact that both Valenzetti and Hanso appear to have spoken in front of the U.N. Is it possible that the two individuals met in person at the U.N.?

Great new avy & sig pic, lab5... LOL.

[unclepat]

THE VANZETTI EQUATION HAS REALLY HAS GOT MY ATTENTION NOW. ONE OF THE FACTORS YOU NEED TO KNOW TO SOLVE IT IS THE EXACT YEAR OF HUMAN ORIGIN. YOU CAN GET THAT INFORMATION BY GOING TO A PLACE WHERE HUMANS ARE THOUGH TO ORIGINATE LIKE OLDUVAI GORGE IN TANZANIA. WITH STATE OF THE ART EQUIPMENT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO PIN THE YEAR DOWN. YOU'D GET YOUR EXPEDITION STARTED BY SETTING UP AN OFFICE IN A MAJOR CITY LIKE DAR ES SALAAM OR ON ZANZIBAR......."WELL I'LL BE DAMN!!!.... HANSO FOUNDATION HAS AN OFFICE IN ZANZIBAR,TANZANIA. THE SUCKERS BEAT ME TO IT. MAKES YOU WONDER WHAT THEY'RE REALLY DOING IN VIK, ICELAND SEOUL, KOREA AND SANTA BARBARA, CA. ANY IDEAS???
SANTA BARBARA??? ISN'T SAINT BARBARA THE PATRON SAINT OF MATHEMATICIANS???

[LadyM]

No, Saint Barbara is the patron saint of artillery. (Really!)

LadyM

[unclepat]

You're right LadyM! But if you Wiki her you'll find she's also the patron saint of "mathematicians, miners, military engineers and anyone who works at risk of sudden death". Hey LadyM you just inspired a flashback!
Didn't "THE BLACK ROCK" have mining equipment and dynamite in it ?

[PandoraX]

I think it is time for a :bump: with the new post by Speaker!

[snakey]

That idea about the dogs of Valenzetti is funny and crazy but it makes sense in that they let Walt leave but Vincent stayed behind because he's more valuable.
Last week there was a find of beads used for decoration in Algeria, turns out they are about 100,000 years old, if they are looking for a the exact date we became human they have a ways to go.
http://www.valenzettiequation.com/

[myhappycakeoven]

What do you want to bet that in S3 Locke or somebody will find Gary Troups original manuscript for the Valenzetti Equation, and in that very manuscript, find the heiroglyphics from the swan station, and their supposed representative values?

[Maestra]

What do you want to bet that in S3 Locke or somebody will find Gary Troups original manuscript for the Valenzetti Equation, and in that very manuscript, find the heiroglyphics from the swan station, and their supposed representative values?

I would LOVE that!!!

[twinkletoesx]

Yeah the EQUATION finally coming into play!

Now we know that: Kelvin Inman and his predeccessor had caught wind of the Valenzetti "activity" because they had it on their Blast Door Map already. What if their mission was to track things like this and stop them.

Now when you look at the Blast Door Map the Valenzetti activity is sort of lower left of the Swan (which would be just a tiny bit up coast). I THINK that place would be right about where Desmond's boat was in that nice cove.

So... What if when Desmond was FOLLOWING Inman he was heading to the Valenzetti activitiy site, NOT THE BOAT. Seeing Desmond he faked out like he was going to the boat instead, at the last minute....to hide his real spy mission and also to give Desmond a way home.

[LuckyLost]

Yeah the EQUATION finally coming into play!

Now we know that: Kelvin Inman and his predeccessor had caught wind of the Valenzetti "activity" because they had it on their Blast Door Map already. What if their mission was to track things like this and stop them.

Now when you look at the Blast Door Map the Valenzetti activity is sort of lower left of the Swan (which would be just a tiny bit up coast). I THINK that place would be right about where Desmond's boat was in that nice cove.

So... What if when Desmond was FOLLOWING Inman he was heading to the Valenzetti activitiy site, NOT THE BOAT. Seeing Desmond he faked out like he was going to the boat instead, at the last minute....to hide his real spy mission and also to give Desmond a way home.

Interesting theory twinkle. You've been right all along it seems.:Cheers:

Maybe a real book is coming out that will be like a sequel to Bad Twin. There must have been a lot of surprise at Hyperion over the success of Bad Twin. So, Bad Twin II, the Valenzetti Equation may be in gestation.

[truffula]

Interesting theory twinkle. You've been right all along it seems.:Cheers:

Maybe a real book is coming out that will be like a sequel to Bad Twin. There must have been a lot of surprise at Hyperion over the success of Bad Twin. So, Bad Twin II, the Valenzetti Equation may be in gestation.
I smell something.....a VEGGIE??? No, that's not it....



Its....use the FORCE, Truff....its...its...













A PLANT.

Thank you very much for your guidance, LuckyLost.;)
Any idea where we might find a copy of this book??

Peace,
Truff

[~G~]

Yeah the EQUATION finally coming into play!

Now we know that: Kelvin Inman and his predeccessor had caught wind of the Valenzetti "activity" because they had it on their Blast Door Map already. What if their mission was to track things like this and stop them.


I like the direction of this, and the tie in to the show. My only question would be...if they were tasked with followong this stuff as part of their mission, why from an island? And why record the progress in such a way that a blast door would have to be down, and a black light on?

I think Kelvin was an intelligent man. He figured out what was going on. Until we see the directors' cut of the orientation film, I think we need to assume that such delicate info was not given to button pushers. But, Kelvin figured it out. And, I think, it drove him a l'il crazy. Like his predecessor. So, they began keeping a log in secret, just in case...

A thought that just popped into my head...the Holy Grail myth, and the Knights Templar. One gaurded the Grail at a time. When a replacement came, once he was deemed worthy, he killed the old guard, in a ritualistic coming of age sacrifice. Hmmmm...

[yung23]

just so you ALL know, my crazy fermions tie into this valenzetti equation..

which by your own postings has been linked the drake equation..

& the drake equation is VERY tied to the fermi paradox (even in this thread I think),
and fermions were named after this man.
Enrico Fermi.


:)

!

[truffula]

Its too bad The Book by Gary Troup is "out of print".
valenzettiequation.com
I would've really liked to have read it. :p
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[Sabres187]

[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gary_Troup_%28Lost%29&action=edit&section=6)] The Valenzetti Equation

As part of his fictional background, Troup is the author of an out-of-print book titled The Valenzetti Equation (http://www.valenzettiequation.com/) about an equation derived by a fictional mathematician of the same name. Amazon's "exclusive note" (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1401302769) on their Bad Twin page mentions that The Valenzetti Equation is Troup's first book.
The "Lost Experience" has revealed that the objective of the DHARMA Initiative is to alter any of the six factors of the Valenzetti Equation, revealed to have a huge impact on the date the human race will destroy itself, whether by global warming, chemical warfare, overpopulation or many other possible methods. These factors are represented as numbers in the Valenzetti Equation and are also the numbers frequently mentioned in the show: 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42.

Also this is an interesting site http://www.valenzettiequation.com/

[truffula]

This was covered in The LOST Experience (aka TLE).
Gonna merge this with our current discussions on the Valenzetti Equation and its website. :)

By all means,
Discuss on :D

[truffula]

:(

.....and another one bites the dust.....

www.valenzettiequation.com is now gone.

:sigh: