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coachb322
04-09-05, 06:23 AM
First off I am new, so if i repeat something already posted my apology.
I have read several posts about the transmission Boone made in the plane they found...as a pilot i would like to state that he could only have been talking to someone in the air or within a range of roughly a 100 miles on the ground. The Comm radios in airplanes work on frequency ranges just above your Fm radio stations, and if you ever went on a long drive you know that signal will start to fade after a certain distance. So my guess is he was talking to someone on the island, probably the black rock that we have heard about. Now i know there is a debate on what the person on the radio said (there were no survivors, or we are the survivors of flight 815) my guess is that it likely other survivors of the flight (nothing new there).

Now on to Claire's baby, i think the significance of the baby is this...The survivors are in a alternative dimension of some sort, kind of using the triangle theory that has been mentioned. planes, boats, etc... enter one of these triangles and are put into this alternative place, and I think that they are there but not totally (hence voices that they hear from another dimension)...but Claire's baby was born into this dimension so it is totally apart of it, and may be the key to getting out, that is why Ethan wanted it so bad. Far fetched a little but there is definitely something special about that baby and the fact that it was born on the island.

I have also read that the death (Boone) was supposed to be due to a betrayal, I think that his death somehow was necessary to open the hatch, and Locke new that but sent him to his death anyway. I think Locke will tell the others that the island choose Boone and this is what will cause a divide among the survivors.

Hourman
04-09-05, 08:36 AM
If the other person was on the ground, like another island, how far would the transmission travel then? I always thought the range had to do with the curviture of the earth.

thoughtform
04-09-05, 01:05 PM
I like your idea about the baby being the key to getting out of wherever they are. That seems to make a lot of sense about why someone may have wanted to abduct Claire. But if Ethan knew this, why couldn't he just have explained the situation to the rest of them? Most want out of the place and would appreciate the info on the dynamics of where they are.

LoStMyMiNd
04-09-05, 03:26 PM
I like your theories. Gives good food for thought

boonian androphile
04-12-05, 09:47 PM
thoughtform:

but what if ethan not only wanted out but wanted power as well? what if the lostaways are just more players in an ongoing power struggle? or what if ethan (and possible cohorts) realized that if the lostaways figured out that the baby's potential (like Locke working on Walt's potential) they could do more than just get the lostaways off the island? could they wrestle the world (back) from the grips of evil? when ethan abducted claire and charlie his eyes lit up like those of a vampire. i wouldnt listen to him.

thoughtform
04-12-05, 11:04 PM
So you think that Ethan and whoever "they" are that Charlie said wanted Claire, wanted to take Claire's baby not only for some power that they gain but that they also wanted to keep the survivors from finding out about the child's specialness? I still wonder, if that is the case, whether Ethan and THEM are the baddies. Isn't it possible that someone else in the survivor camp could be the real baddie? That Ethan was trying to protect Claire and the child from this? We still don't have complete backstories on our bunch, we still really don't know the true nature of all the players.

boonian androphile
04-13-05, 07:04 AM
anything's possible. you're right, we do not have all the information. so far though we are being asked to support the various lostaways' actions, from the most heroic to the most obsessive. As far as someone inside the camp being the baddie, that's possible too. I mean Locke has evolved from benevolent provider of insight to a single- minded obsessive catalyst to destruction. Whether he decided to do that is open to debate. I personally think that his need for acceptance and purpose and wholeness led him to this state, led him to being manipulated by forces no one on the island as of yet understands. Locke's need for acceptance and purpose and wholeness sounded like Boone's dilemma actually. Maybe one the reasons that they were put together was to show us that their paths were essentially the same. Returning to the main point though, why not someone else emerging from the camp with similar obsessive purposes. There are enough candidates. Jack and Sayid resorted to torture. What's next for them? Who's to say that if someone learns that the baby has special powers or something else he/she won't make a move? Presently though the lines are being drawn. Who helps the camp? Who hurts the camp? From the lostaways' point of view an abductor and hangman really doesn't fall under the definition of helping.

Thanks thoughtform for posing questions that I had not really considered. The opportunity to consider other points of view is one the reasons that I decided to post in the first place.

thoughtform
04-13-05, 01:34 PM
Your welcome, boonian androphile. I'm all about the questions, I just wish I had some answers. The murderous hangman aspect definately makes Ethan seem the baddie. Though I'm not sure it was Ethan who did that. Remember when Jack and Locke and Kate and Boone were following trails in search of claire and Charlie? Locke said that the trail led off in two directions. Kate assumed that Ethan had done that purposely to throw them off. What if it wasn't Ethan trying to throw them off, what if Ethan was confronted by "the others" and they took Claire and hung Charlie? I'm not saying that this happened, we just never saw what really happened out there. Charlie and Claire both have no memory of what occured, except that Charlie said "all THEY wanted was Claire". So, I have to wait and see more before I say Ethan is the bad guy or that he was even working with "the others".

boonian androphile
04-14-05, 02:03 AM
you're right that there is no direct evidence that ethan did the charlie hanging. maybe ethan made the threat to jack but was intercepted by "the others" or someone else who did the actual deed. i remember the word "they" and that word stood out to be noticed. so then did charlie shoot ethan because he remembered ethan as the abductor or because charlie's friends told charlie that ethan had committed the act? do you think that locke will suffer from the same memory loss as charlie and claire? where the hell is may? fun chatting with you.

Gambit980
04-14-05, 07:01 PM
Finally Ethan is been given some kind of motive. Personally I like the idea the baby being born on the island makes it special, sad thing is I heard this before, but for some reason now I am willing to accept it. If Ethan was trying to get off the island it makes sense why the others my help him to capture Clair. They would kill her and the baby so no one could escape. This does not address why he infiltrated the group. He was observing, plotting, I don't know. My kingdom for a new episode.