New Connections Noticed Tonight

[Choppin Broccoli]

Tonight's episode revealed some new interconnections between the survivors. Claire is connected to Kate in that both of them were raised by their mothers alone. And in a strange way, the Claire/Thomas relationship is very similar to the Michael/Walt's Mother (can't remember her name) relationship. Michael is an artist; Thomas was also an artist (just noticed that tonight). Michael put his art career on hold and worked construction to support his child; Thomas was ready to do the same. Neither couple was married when they conceived. Both couples split up after a short period of trying to "make it work." In Michael's case, he was the one who got left behind and had his child taken away from him. In Claire's case, she got left behind WITH her child.

Don't know if there's any significance to all of that, but some of that stuff (particularly the fact that they were both artists) strikes me as a little TOO coincidental, if you know what I mean.

[soup]

CB:
Sweet catch. I just posted a theory under "Claire's baby" speculating the tie between Claire's baby and Walt, too. Both relationships had the elements of "let's try to make this work" before they blew up in the face of the featured character.

My other post speculated that it was too coincidental that Walt's mom got the job offer from Brian, and ensuing relationship, right after Walt was born. How many "yuppie" type men, lawyers for that matter, would choose to hook up with a woman who had just had a baby, with all the baggage that can go with that, huh? I think it's too fishy, and I think Brian's little performance at Michael's loft was an act. I htink HE was meant to be on the plane with Walt, and he chickened out, putting Michael in harm's way, instead.

[schweinhaxe]

Not to take away from your good observations, but wasn't Kate "raised" at least in part also by her father? IIRC, she said somewhere that her father taught her how to hunt or track sometime when she was growing up.

[Chance Gardener]

I noticed the same thing CB. It is intriguing isn't it. And Schweingaoifgaoijsfbansasdaxe is correct also - Kate spent time with her dad as well. Also, not too sure her line about her mom was true - had the same feel to it as when she was talking to Sun about she was 'going to Fiji' which is funny considering she didn't know Sun spoke English at that point so why lie about why she was on the plane then?

Perhaps the connections everyone has to each other is based on similarities in their lives. Sawyer and Kate are both cons. You've pointed out Charlie and Claire's similarities. Maybe there are more we've just not picked up on yet.

Oh, and sorry 'bout the name Schweiny; unlike several of the ladies here, I have problems with glottal stops.

[east928]

I do agree that it's weird that both 'children' had parents that split up. I think SOMEBODY got to those people and scarred them off....(one of the 'others' perhaps??) That way, the 'forces that be' could maintain control of the destiny of these two kids..Walt and Claire's baby...hmmmm....

[llywrch]

I'm in agreement with CB here: there's something intentional going on here. When I saw the episode "Special", I was immediately struck by the parallels in this story with the earlier one about Claire.

Add to the orphan connection that both of Sawyer's parents died when he was a kid (they committed suicide after losing money in a con); Shannon has lost both parents (her father married Boone's father, & died at some point before they got on the plane), & Boone lost his father when he also was a kid.

For the rest of the main characters, only Jack is known to have both parents alive until he became an adult. This information has not yet been revealed about any of the others.

Geoff

[maddy65]

In last nights episode I noticed the necklace claire is wearing. she had it on in Austrailia and on the island. Did anyone else notice it? it looks like some kind of symbol or if you stretch your imagination it looks a bit like some kind of monster type character??? Are any of you brilliant folks out there who know what it is? Also it has been mentioned many times that Claire is into Astrology. Do we know what sign her baby would be born under?

[MonsterEatsPilot]

I have seen this necklace before.

I am under the impression it is the Chinese symbol for "Love."

-P

[moongirl0719]

Question. Did Claire say that the lullaby (the one about the falling star and put it in your pocket) was sung to her by her mother or her father? I could swear she said her father. If so, then her father was involved in her childhood in some way.

[MonsterEatsPilot]

I am under the impression she said "father."

-P

[drabauer]

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[xLegenDx]

i find it odd how both the the children had people that were afraid of them, along with the other connections they had, that really pins it together, never noticed that before

[Juanitaweb]

Hmmm, there definitely is something more here. Many of these people have parenting issues (who doesn't) that are connected to death, desertion, or loss of some kind:

It is implied that Michael's dad is dead or out of the picture in some way due to the tone of voice used between he and Susan when he suggests Walt for the babies name (after his father). Now a single parent.

Walt's all screwed up. Mom's dead, Bryan (the father that he knew) abandoned him (he's never told that, but the kid's not stupid he must have put 2 and 2 together when Bryan didn't come back to Australia and allowed some stranger, Michael, to just take him away.) Thought his biological father had abandoned him all those years.

Vincent the dog (assuming that's really him) has lost his master and is being "raised by another".

Claire's father is out of the picture either by his own accord or some reason which leads Claire to believe she had been abandoned by him. Her relationship with her mom is strained. Will be a single parent.

Kate seems to have both mommy and daddy issues, not yet clearly defined.

Boone and Shannon have parenting issues. Her dad is dead or out of the picture somehow which is how Boone's mom ends up with all of the money Shannon believes should be hers. Quite often young girls with father abandonment issues will become promiscuous, (kind of a twisted sense of empowerment stemming from low self esteem) hence her myriad relationships at such a relatively young age and her dalliance with Boone. No clue what happened to her mom. Boone's dad is out of the picture for whatever reason.

Sawyer's and orphan, wonder who raised him?

Jack never seemed to have a good relationship with his father and his relationship with his mother was rocky in the flashback.

No clue as to Charlie's parental relationships.

Sun's got daddy issues since she didn't want Jin tied into her fathers dealings. I don't think he's a hit man, that is just too stereotypical for my tastes. It just seemed as if it was a very controlling relationship, maybe its cultural, maybe Sun did something to displease her father.

In the pics for Hurley's upcoming episode, there is someone who appears to be his mom, but I don't see a dad. If you look at the photo with Hurley in the fast food uniform, he is standing in front of what appears to be an altar of some kind. There is a picture of a man, woman, and two kids on the altar. Maybe it's a picture of his immediate family, maybe his dad is dead or out of the picture for some reason.

Alex (whatever he, she, it is) has lost his parent, Danielle.

Lot of dysfunctional families for one group of people.

[clone11]

I noticed sword imagery.

In Claire's dream with Locke: When Locke turned over the tarot cards there is an intentional "sword" noise. I can't describe it here, but definately worth a re-watch/listen.

Also, I don't think it's any coincidence that Hurley thinks Ethan's name is "lance."

[drabauer]

Thanks Juanitaweb for putting this all together so clearly. I think you got just about everyone covered! We could add that Rose lost her husband and we have as of yet no idea if she's left children behind.

And we have no idea how Locke grew up, only that he obviously had no wife or, apparently, children (although he could have grown kids!)

[jcrew1179]

What if Locke was driving the car that hit Michael, or if Locke himself was a car accident victim and had his legs broken.