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LostPolarBear
01-26-05, 09:52 PM
...where's the White? Anyone have any interesting ideas on this?
EDIT: Shaft posted an interesting theory about a possible link between the Black Rock and 2001: A Space Odyssey's monolith. I'm more interested in the possibilities for a place/element of White as pertaining to the whole Black-White-Good-Evil thing. For example, the Island itself is the White and the Black Rock is the self-absorbed nature of Evil; or the survivors themselves are the White and the Black Rock is a menacing influence, etc. That sort of thing.
Cheers,
LostPolarBear
RUready2getLOST
01-27-05, 12:48 AM
Yeah yeah, the whole good vs evil thing...
It's the black rock vs the possible white rock...
Same with the stones found in the caves...
And the game pieces...
There's definitely some significance about them all...
But did you notice in the episode where Locke was talking to Walt about the game (I forgot what it was called). Anyway, when he held up the game pieces, the black one was on the side that the scar on his eye was on, and the white one was on the side of the other eye. Could this be a sign of good and evil. Not to mention, a good and evil side of Locke?
LostPolarBear
01-27-05, 02:32 AM
Anyway, when he held up the game pieces, the black one was on the side that the scar on his eye was on, and the white one was on the side of the other eye. Could this be a sign of good and evil. Not to mention, a good and evil side of Locke?
Forgot all about that. :) Definitely a bit of enforced visual foreshadowing there.
I'm thinking the writers won't stop at doing the good/evil within and amongst the characters. When the Black Rock showed up, it seemed like they were setting up an introduction of something White.
Now that I think about it though, if there is something like that coming up, it's probably going to get introduced in the second season - this season will probably finish out with the survivors' flashbacks...tip of the iceberg stuff.
I must have missed the episode with the black/white stones - which ep is that?
LostPolarBear
Xander Power
01-27-05, 03:21 AM
I must have missed the episode with the black/white stones - which ep is that?
It's the episode where Jack and Kate discover the caves. Just as Lock and Charlie return from doing... something, (can't remember) Jack stuffs the black and white rock's into his jacket pocket to hide them from Lock. I think that the bodies Jack took them from were the Adam and Eve people love to speculate about.
Also, I'd like to add something about the white rock. Actually, I have no idea if they're similar but I have yet to see anyone one the forums discuss the golf course Hurley made? For some odd reason, I have a feeling that golf has something to do with the white rock(s).
LostPolarBear
01-27-05, 03:58 AM
Thanks, Xander. Gotta go hunt that ep. down.
Funny to think that golf balls are going to become a vauable commodity. Can you imagine being the guy or girl to accidentally shank the last remaining ball into the ocean? :)
Andromana
01-27-05, 09:08 PM
just something I found out, about 1 mile from St. Croix,USVI, there is a something called white rock. It is a way point for boats to recieve a signal or something to that affect.
Driveshafter
02-04-05, 08:42 PM
There is the white polar bear.... One of the fundamentals of lots of religious and spiritual philosophy is that things aren't JUST black and white, good and evil, but we move in a flux between them. Yin Yang, god's favorite angel falling from grace (lucifer), Anakin, etc.
This black and white thing seems to be somehow more definite and to do with objects.
Cassis1
02-04-05, 09:05 PM
In my more whimsical moments I like to think that the still-hypothetical white rock will turn out to be a miraculously preserved glacier.
Home to the polar bears.
Clementine Kruczynski
02-04-05, 09:29 PM
I don't know about the white rock, but on Danielle's maps there is a crater. Maybe the black rock is around there somewhere?
futureidol
02-04-05, 10:48 PM
Yeah it seems if there is a black rock there must be a white rock. And what is up with that paradise looking waterfall place Kate and Sawyer found? Why have they not gone back there or at least talked about it? I know that between the waterfall there seemed to be a prominent sharp rock that was very dark in color. In fact there were rocks all around that pond/lake, perhaps this location has some relevance to the mystery of the black rock. I mean it seemed to be an ideal living area, and it's the only other fresh water source that we know of.
Driveshafter
02-05-05, 10:46 PM
A poster called Im4aDriveShaftComeback on another board brought up the fact that the pilgrimage to Mecca is centered on a black rock. So I started reading websites.
Reading a bunch of websites for a theory on the Black Rock, I discovered that meteorites are white when they land, and then oxidize to black. One researcher described a crater with black silica rocks and white grains in a ring at the rim of the crater. There is a crater on the island.
Because of this white turning to black phenomenon, the (believed) meteorite enshrined at the Ka'bah at Mecca was said to absorb your sins if you touched it. It turned black from all the evil/sin it absolved. That is the purpose of the Moslem pilgrimage to Mecca to kiss the stone. That particular stone goes back to a sacred shrine of the Jews (taken over by Muhammad), and before them to the meteorite cult of goddess/fertility which seems to have been worldwide in ancient times (omphalos at Delphi; Aphrodite - now Moslem shrine on Cyprus; Cybele's Needle; Willamette Stone, etc). God either was thought to come to earth within the meteorite or throw it to earth to give man supernatural powers. A child conceived on the stone was thought to be divine.
These beliefs, or similar ones are still a part of sacred ceremonies in many cultures, Islam, Native American... and in Cambodia, where a meteorite fell last week, and the villagers began to make a shrine and were stopped by the police who forbade it for being foolish superstition.
That is just the stuff I recall off the top of my head. Enough stuff to make part of the plot?
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