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kadeskiss
06-03-06, 11:20 AM
I notice that upon meeting Libby, Hurley stated that he might have met her before. We all assume that he met/seen her in the 'psychiatric hospital', considering they were both in the psychiatric hospital at the same time. But suppose there is something more to it than that? When Libby really started to take an interest in Hurley it was in the episode "Dave", when Hurley was chasing after his imaginary friend , known as "Dave". I was wondering why Libby was so sure that Hurley's friend Dave wasn't really, and what he was saying wasn't true..I was also wondering why would Libby be interested in Hurley?? he 's not the type that most woman take an interest in,at first look, and she haven't known him long enough to know his personality..so maybe there was something else about Hurley that drew her to him..like Maybe Hurley's imaginary friend 'Dave", was once real,and Hurley cause his death. Maybe's Hurley's Dave was Libby's husband "Dave/David? I find it odd that when Hurley mention his friend Dave, that Libby didn't mention that was her dead husband name, considering that she mention him to Desmond upon first meeting him...yet, she didn't mention that her husband was name 'Dave", nor that she was once married. So do you think that Libby could have had more of a connection with Hurley, beside the psychiatric hospital? do you think that Hurley's Dave and Libby's husband "David" could have been one of the same?




Note: Maybe when Hurley was seeing Dave,Libby was seeing him too..just like Sawyer saw Kate's horse.

SugaShane
06-03-06, 11:31 AM
I hadn't thought of that before, but I suppose it is a possibility. I have a feeling though, like some other things in the show, this will be one we never get an explanation for.

twilightsun
06-03-06, 02:13 PM
This has been tossed around several times, but I don't think I've replied to any of the previous threads so I can't really point you toward any of them at the moment.

Smirnoff_Ice
06-03-06, 03:34 PM
I'm with SugaShane. I don't know how much more we'll see of Libby.

OMG its LFG
06-03-06, 06:28 PM
IF all they tell us is why libby was in the mental institute, I would be happy.

Subject # 4815162342
06-03-06, 06:37 PM
I had a theory that went along with that.....that "Dave" was Libby's David,and that the two of them actually were behind the whole thing!....or at least in cahoots with the whole Dharma/Hanso/Widmore thing.

...all wild speculation aside,tho,I still think Libby worked as a recruiter for the Dharma Initiative.Especially now that we saw that scene with Desmond where she gave him the boat.

Verite Garde
06-03-06, 08:00 PM
First off, I don't think Libby (Elizabeth) met Desi by accident. In all likelihood she lied about a husband David. If she didn't, David died of an illness according to her. He wasn't killed.

The fact that the island whispers "Elizabeth" and has since he beginning of this season anyway, because I heard it in last season's premiere that reran last week, makes me thinks Libby is indeed far more involved with Dharma than we are being led to believe so far.

yung23
06-03-06, 09:15 PM
my buddy just called with this very theory..

was libby's Dave Hurleys Dave ?



Did Libby's husband die before she went into the asylum ?

Is this how Dave came to be ? He was trying to get to libby through Hurley ?

why didn't Dave ever tell Hurley to say hi for him (like ghost)



I never noticed Libby say her husband was named Dave till now
interesting IMO

lostboy
06-03-06, 09:47 PM
yung, you just repeated what everyone above you has said.

Verite Garde
06-03-06, 10:05 PM
yung, you just repeated what everyone above you has said.

I guess he didn't bother reading what we wrote. :(

yung23
06-03-06, 10:07 PM
I just found this thread and posted..sorry..

your right,, I didnt bother to read.. i like sentence breaks.

Verite Garde
06-03-06, 10:20 PM
But only the original poster didn't make sentence breaks. :rolleyez:

yung23
06-03-06, 10:26 PM
sorry.
often when I post, I am playing daddy..so I dont get to weed through everything.. I am always being rushed"

I just wanted to blurt out my buddies thoughts while I remembered them..



my thoughts.. david is a pretty popular name...
and I dont think Libby would have been married to a bald guy who did not seem to look rich anyway..

Verite Garde
06-03-06, 10:37 PM
No problem, yung, I was just giving you a hard time.

I don't think Dave is David. Too easy.

spooky
06-03-06, 10:49 PM
do you think that Hurley's Dave and Libby's husband "David" could have been one of the same?

I think it's a fun idea, but unlikely. She actually sees Hurley put his arm around "nothing" in the hospital. Plus, Libby seems rich, and Dave doesn't. Dave is Hurley's smart-mouthed alter-ego as far as I can tell.

But I share other's speculation that Libby giving Desmond her boat is more than coincidental. I still constantly vacillate between conspiracy and serendipity as the motivators. But my paranoid side can't help but see Libby as a conspirator somehow. A connection with both Hurley and Desmond seems a bit much, especially after she insists that Desmond must take the boat. Plus, it would be a good twist if someone other than Penelope were also looking for the island. Say, if Widmore were looking for Libby, or the real Henry Gale.

Hodgepodge
06-03-06, 10:56 PM
Kadeskiss, I thought she showed an interest in Hurley from the beginning. Didn't he help her with her tarpaulin when she first arrived? They did their laundry together. He definitely didn't hide his affections for her.

There's been speculation, because she knew him from Santa Rosa, she could've recognized him when he won the lottery. That she was in it for the money. So to speak! Since we'll probably never know now, I'd like to think she really liked him.

Supposedly, Hurley accidentally killed eight people on a decking. If I'm not mistaken, Libby told Desmond her David, "got sick and passed away." So, I guess Hurley could've had something to do with his death, but I got the impression it was some type of illness. But we all know how TPTB like to play with connections and coincidences? Your idea could definitely come to pass.

kadeskiss
06-04-06, 04:27 AM
Kadeskiss, I thought she showed an interest in Hurley from the beginning. Didn't he help her with her tarpaulin when she first arrived? They did their laundry together. He definitely didn't hide his affections for her.


She spoke to him, but she didn't really take an interest in him until Dave. It like she wasn't surprise at all that Hurley had a imagnary friend. Like she knew, or maybe she saw him too, like when Sawyer saw Kate's horse.



There's been speculation, because she knew him from Santa Rosa, she could've recognized him when he won the lottery. That she was in it for the money. So to speak! Since we'll probably never know now, I'd like to think she really liked him.

Libby had her own money, therefore the fact that he won the lottery is less likely to excite her. I think Libby might like Hurley because he might have hasd some connection to David. We still haven't learn if Hurley just made Dave up, or maybe Dave was once a real person that Hurley once knew.

Supposedly, Hurley accidentally killed eight people on a decking. If I'm not mistaken, Libby told Desmond her David, "got sick and passed away." So, I guess Hurley could've had something to do with his death, but I got the impression it was some type of illness. But we all know how TPTB like to play with connections and coincidences? Your idea could definitely come to pass.

We know that Hurley believe that he might have been responsible for a lot of people 's death, so he could have been responsible for Davd death. I think that Hurley had prior connection to Libby, besides the psychiatric hospital.Since all of them seem to be connected in some way.

Without Dane
06-04-06, 04:45 AM
kadeskiss -

I have to agree that Libby's interest in Hurley was established well before the 'Dave' episode. I suggest you rewatch some of the episodes leading up.

Secondly, Libby's story is not over and her meeting with Desmond was clearly not an accident. However, in terms of the storyline, I think there's far more clues implying that she was sent by Mr. Widmore to give Desmond a boat (perhaps to get him stranded on the island and away from Penelope).

Telkop
06-04-06, 04:15 PM
I think Libby was working for Dharma and the reason she was in the institute was to find out what Lenny knew about the numbers.

Subject # 4815162342
06-04-06, 05:50 PM
I think Libby was working for Dharma and the reason she was in the institute was to find out what Lenny knew about the numbers. ____________:yeah:____________

.....if by 'institute,you mean 'institution'.

Verite Garde
06-04-06, 08:41 PM
kadeskiss -

I have to agree that Libby's interest in Hurley was established well before the 'Dave' episode. I suggest you rewatch some of the episodes leading up.

Secondly, Libby's story is not over and her meeting with Desmond was clearly not an accident. However, in terms of the storyline, I think there's far more clues implying that she was sent by Mr. Widmore to give Desmond a boat (perhaps to get him stranded on the island and away from Penelope).

I agree with you. Libby had her eye on Hurley pretty much from the get go. Remember her asking Hurley to turn around so she could try on a top she found? A woman doesn't do that unless she has an agenda. She wouldn't be changing her clothes around a man if she wasn't trying to get a rise out of him.

Also why take Libby for her word? We know nothing of her ingegrity. I agree she was paid by either Penny for one reason or her father for another to befriend him and offer the boat. "David" is probably made up.

syncmastr
06-04-06, 09:17 PM
When I read the title I thought no way, but you make a very intresting point. I never noticed the same name thing, and it is very strange. Maybe Dave died when Hurley made the deck colapse?

I really think people put too much thought into this whole angle. Yeah I was really pissed when they killer her off, after giving us a twist a few shows before. I figured they closed it and explained why she was there. Her husband died and she was obivously a wreck over it, enough so to give away a boat to a stranger... If she is never mentioned/shown again thats fine with me, I think the writers closed off her chapter in the finalle.

I do not beleive this was a setup in any way (Her giving DES the boat) and if TBTB go in this direction at all, I will be very disapointed. I would love to see a flashback of hurley and maybe see Libby in it, giving us more of a connection between the 2. Any more than this I think is just pushing it. Sorry to go OT, but good theroy OP.

Cranky
06-04-06, 11:25 PM
Originally Posted by LostforGood
IF all they tell us is why libby was in the mental institute, I would be happy.

I like to think she might've went there becaus her husband died...just in case TPTB never tie this storyline up.

Originally Posted by Telkop
I think Libby was working for Dharma and the reason she was in the institute was to find out what Lenny knew about the numbers.


I never thought of that! How very interesting.

DreaminLost
06-05-06, 12:00 AM
I was delighted to see Libby in Desmond's flashback.

I certainly hope we see more flashes of her in S3 for two reasons:

1. I like her.

2. Her storyline left us dangling. There's so many unanswered questions swirling around her.

TPTB need to tie up some of these loose ends.

Seaicilin
06-05-06, 03:08 AM
I think we will see more of Libby giving some threads have been all chatty about what her last name could be -- think we will see more flashbacks.