apollocandy.com Discussion Thread (2006 TLE)

[truffula]

Link Removed - Apollocandy.com

An AD (http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/truffula/Webmaze%20Pics/ApolloCandyAd6.jpg) in the August 2006 edition of the LOST magazine announced Apollocandy.com *link removed* to us, and on 8.8.06 it went LIVE.

The following is a complete archive of this site:

INTRO PAGE (click on the middle to enter the site)

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/truffula/Webmaze%20Pics/Apollo%20Candy/intropage1.jpg


MAIN PAGE (flashes the chocolate bar being opened and eaten, but you can see these again if you click on the candy bar)

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/truffula/Webmaze%20Pics/Apollo%20Candy/mainpage1.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/truffula/Webmaze%20Pics/Apollo%20Candy/mainpageA1.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/truffula/Webmaze%20Pics/Apollo%20Candy/mainpageB1.jpg


THE BEGINNING

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/truffula/Webmaze%20Pics/Apollo%20Candy/thebeginning1.jpg

Never in his wildest dreams could M. David Benson have imagined how this moment would change everything. It was 1964. He had just delivered, from the back of his beat-to-the-bolts 1958 Jeep FC-150, the very first crate of Apollo Bars to San Fransisco's legendary J. Pickersweet's Five and Dime.

Benson knew this was the moment of truth. If Pickersweet like what you had to sell, profit and prosperity would most certainly follow. But if he took issue with your product...
Benson held his breath as Pickersweet bit into the impossibly rich, unimaginably creamy Apollo Bar. A full, heart-wrenching ten seconds passed.

And then the miraculous happened.

Pickersweet's mustache curled up above a grin that stretched from ear to ear. The Apollo Bar had landed in the Golden Gate City.


THE MAN

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/truffula/Webmaze%20Pics/Apollo%20Candy/theman1.jpg

Born in 1938, M. David Benson is the child of Nils Christer Benson, son of Oskar Benson, founder of Scandinavia's revered Benson Chocolatiers.
Some would say Benson was a child of strife. His grandfather, Oskar Benson was a man of tradition. Upon learning of his son's engagement to a woman well below his station, Oskar turned his back on Nils, cutting him from the family inheritance. Leaving Norway with his pregnant wife, Elli, Nils established a new life in the U.S., joining the U.S. Marine Corps in December of 1941. Sadly, however, Nils Benson lost his life on Omaha Beach just a few short years later.

Like many immigrants, the widowed Elli Benson felt a strong sense of patriotism for her adopted country. Her husband had dies defending America, and M. David Benson was raised to cherish his homeland.
M. David Benson served America in the Korean War, and recounts the moment when he, too, discovered that chocolate ran through his veins:
"The six of us were pinned down - scared witless. I knew we'd be lost if we didn't come together. So, I rifled through my pack and found it -- the Benson Chocolate Bar mom had sent. They were expensive. She was poor. But once a month, like clockwork, and even with death staring us in the eye, not a one of us could deny the smile on his face. It was dead midnight, but for that sweet moment, as we ate that Benson Bar, the sun came up for us all".

It was in that foxhole that M. David Benson first envisioned the Apollo Bar. Less than two years later, that vision had become a reality. And, the rest, as they say, is history.


THE COMPANY

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/truffula/Webmaze%20Pics/Apollo%20Candy/thecompany1.jpg

Starting with only the milk chocolate recipe given to him by his grandfather, Oskar Benson, M. David Benson began the Apollo Candy Company in 1962, out of a one-room factory in San Fransisco's legendary Cow Hollow district. By 1964, Benson had perfected the recipe for his affordable, yet exceptionally delicious, Apollo Bars, and began distributing them citywide. By 1968, the fledgling company had secured distribution outlets nationwide.

Sadly, in the early 1970s, the Apollo Candy Company fell into dire straits. However, due to the considerable financial intervention of Alvar Hanso, founder of the worldwide philanthropic organization, The Hanso Foundation, the company was saved from bankruptcy...and infused with new life. Today, the Apollo Candy Company is alove and well as the private purveyor of chocolates for Alvar Hanso and his many companies.


THE JEEP

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/truffula/Webmaze%20Pics/Apollo%20Candy/thejeep1.jpg

Once he'd perfected the Apollo Bar's recipe, M. David Benson found himself in a predicament: he's spent all but his last cent on starting the company...which left him no means to travel and hawk his sensational new chocolates.

The short of it? He needed a truck, and fast.

But, how? And which truck? This was no small decision. Choosing a distribution vehicle was about more than just getting a box of Apollo Bars from here to there. Whatever Benson chose to drive, he knew it would forever be associated with the Apollo Candy Company. It would represent his family, and the image of the company he was trying to lift off the ground -- for good or ill.

Luckily, fortune smiled on Benson once again. A close friend had just moved to the Big Apple and had no more need for his 1958 Jeep FC-150 Truck. It was beaten up, dirty, looked like it had no business rolling on city streets, but Benson took one look at that jeep and knew it was the perfect truck -- not only was it affordable, it was a vehicle as rugged and durable as the Amreican spirit.

600,000 miles and 44 years later, Benson still prefers his Jeep FC-150 to other vehicles in his fleet. As he's been known to boast, "Apollo himself would gladly give up both horse and chariot for a chance to ride in my Jeep FC-150!"


THE APOLLO BAR

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/truffula/Webmaze%20Pics/Apollo%20Candy/theapollobar1.jpg

After his tour ended, Benson knew what he had to do. He would bring the Benson Bar to America, but with a change. He would make it affordable, but with no sacrifice to quality, so that every American, regardless of class, creed, or station could come together through the simple delight of the world's richest, creamiest milk chocolate.

Bringing this proposal to his grandfather, a man he barely knew, Benson was devastated to learn Benson Chocolatiers had gone under, the brand sold to a British candy manufacturer. However, Oskar Benson had a surprise for his grandson. Having missed out on his childhood, hoping only to reconnect after so many regretful years, Oskar Benson offered his grandson the most valuable of family secrets: the original, secret recipe for Benson Milk Chocolate.

Working from this recipe, it was only a matter of time before M. David Benson concocted the recipe for the "The Apollo Bar", a confection fit for the Greek god of light himself.


THE AD

(direct LINK (http://apollocandy.com/ApolloAd01.html) to the Ad for those with trouble viewing it)

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/truffula/Webmaze%20Pics/Apollo%20Candy/apolload1.jpg http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/truffula/Webmaze%20Pics/Apollo%20Candy/apolloadB1.jpg

Announcer: "Guess what's coming into YOUR orbit?"
(singers) The new bar with the raving taste, Apollo
Little Jimmy and Dog: "Far out!"....."woof woof"
(singers) the Apollo dark chocolate bar
Announcer: "Go to apollocandy.com to find out where you can get your free Apollo bar!"


*note: there is this disclaimer at the bottom of the site:

The Apollo Candy Company is a subsidiary of The Hanso Group.

To find out more about The Hanso Group`s philanthropic projects, please visit us on the web at www.thehansofoundation.org. (http://www.thehansofoundation.org.)



UPDATES will be made in here as necessary. :)

Enjoy! :D

[Richardstone]

I wonder what will be in The Ad?

Starting with only the milk chocolate recipe given to him by his grandfather, Oskar Benson, M. David Benson began the Apollo Candy Company in 1962, out of a one-room factory in San Francisco’s legendary Cow Hollow district. By 1964, Benson had perfected the recipe for his affordable, yet exceptionally delicious, Apollo Bars, and began distributing them citywide.

By 1968, the fledgling company had secured distribution outlets nationwide.Sadly, in the early 1970s, the Apollo Candy Company fell into dire straits. However, due to the considerable financial intervention of Alvar Hanso, founder of the worldwide philanthropic organization, The Hanso Foundation, the company was saved from bankruptcy… and infused with new life. Today, the Apollo Candy Company is alive and well as the private purveyor of chocolates for Alvar Hanso and his many companies.

[truffula]

I wonder what will be in The Ad?
Keep your eyes on ABC tonight and tomorrow for this AD ;)

[Maestra]

Keep your eyes on ABC tonight and tomorrow for this AD ;)
Try clicking on it again, I could see it!

Just a cartoon talking about the candy bar, with disclaimers that it's "not available in stores" and "presented by ABC". Definitely TV-ready. :)

[Richardstone]

Try clicking on it again, I could see it!

Just a cartoon talking about the candy bar, with disclaimers that it's "not available in stores" and "presented by ABC". Definitely TV-ready. :)

Cool I'll persevere, it has'nt worked for me so far...

Was'nt Full O'Glyphs then?

[duality]

The ad works for me in firefox but not internet explorer

[Maestra]

Here (http://apollocandy.com/ApolloAd01.html)'s the direct link, if you can't view it. (I used Safari to view it)

[Richardstone]

Here (http://apollocandy.com/ApolloAd01.html)'s the direct link, if you can't view it. (I used Safari to view it)

Thanks Maestra, it did'nt work for me at all using IE...

:)

[rvturnage]

The ads up now...not much to it, though...bizarre little site, huh?

[truffula]

I tried entering the serial number 185192 as a code, but as of right now it did not work. :p

Did yal see the hot air balloon? Wasn't APOLLO CANDY one of the sponsors stickers on the REAL Henry Gale's balloon (with MrClucks and WidmoreLabs)??

[foxxie]

Food Drop anyone?

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f140/kfozzie/apollo.jpg


ETA: I think it was Truffy!

[Maestra]

The ads up now...not much to it, though...bizarre little site, huh?
VERY bizarre...I especially like this little tidbit:

The Apollo Candy Company is a subsidiary of The Hanso Group.
To find out more about The Hanso Group`s philanthropic projects, please visit us on the web at www.thehansofoundation.org.

[foxxie]

Try clicking on it again, I could see it!

Just a cartoon talking about the candy bar, with disclaimers that it's "not available in stores" and "presented by ABC". Definitely TV-ready. :)

Thanks for the link Mae!

Did you hear "go to see where to get your free candy bar"!

Golden Glyph anyone?

[Richardstone]

I tried entering the serial number 185192 as a code, but as of right now it did not work. :p

Did yal see the hot air balloon? Wasn't APOLLO CANDY one of the sponsors stickers on the REAL Henry Gale's balloon (with MrClucks and WidmoreLabs)??

I tried that as a code too :)

The other advert was from ABC's Kingdom Hospital, Nozz-A-La Cola...

GALE: You don't have any Stephen King?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v115/Richardstone/gondola.jpg

http://www.lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-promos/sea2/lockdown/normal_lockdown-promo06.jpg

There was no Apollo advert on the balloon or the gondola (is that the right term?)

[marcthebeat]

Think there's anything in this?

http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1932&d=1155063423

[Maestra]

Food Drop anyone?

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f140/kfozzie/apollo.jpg
:eek: WOW!!

ETA...so is the food drop part of their philanthropic projects???

Thanks for the link Mae!
You're welcome! :)

Did you hear "go to see where to get your free candy bar"!

Golden Glyph anyone?
YESH!!! But the ad also says "not available in stores"....so where will we find 'em? :blinkie:

[Richardstone]

Think there's anything in this?

http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1932&d=1155063423

Maybe, it does'nt say Apollo Bar that's for sure...

There's a thread specifically for this now, you should post this over there too...

:)

[txarsoncop]

I'll probably live to regret this but... there is something on the Apollo bar itself in the lower right hand corner of the page that is unwrapped. Crappy work compy monitor doesn't have resolution enough to make out what it says. Doesn't look like Apollo to me though...



ETA: Marc & Richard had quicker fingers! Damn you!!

[Rocky Raccoon]

I think it starts with a w...not sure though.

[foxxie]

:eek: WOW!!

ETA...so is the food drop part of their philanthropic projects???

Good thought! Could be why there are always Apollo bars with the food drop.



YESH!!! But the ad also says "not available in stores"....so where will we find 'em? :blinkie:

I bet after the ad goes on TV, there will be more info on the site.

[Rocky Raccoon]

Wow, what a shameful way to make yourself money, ABC.


Not that I care, it involves candy...

[Richardstone]

Good thought! Could be why there are always Apollo bars with the food drop.

I think all this just makes the fact that Apollo bars don't come in DHARMA branded wrappers make perfect sense, they still come in DHARMA tins but obviously Alvar has a soft spot for this candy...

Why are there always Apollo bars? THF owns the Apollo Candy Co.

Simple....

[Murky Majare]

Clicking on the wrapper of the candy itself on the main page, changes it to an unwrapped(ish) version, then a broken one, then back to normal.

EDIT:
Noticed that each time I open the page and click on the wrapper, it "breaks" so that one piece is under the 'the company' tag, but after going to another apollo page and back to the main page, it now centers under a yellow star above it.

[chaz]

My first thought was that the kid in the picture looks like lxicon from lost-forum. He was the guy who put together the computer simulation that answered you back.

[truffula]

Just a little timeline note....nothing of real significance....but....

1962 - Apollo candy company is founded
1962 - secret UN security counsel meeting about the Valenzetti Equation

Just a neat coincidence ;)

[Richardstone]

Just a little timeline note....nothing of real significance....but....

1962 - Apollo candy company is founded
1962 - secret UN security counsel meeting about the Valenzetti Equation

Just a neat coincidence ;)

Has'nt the best before date been used before as well?

October 23, 2006?

Was that the date on Alvars picture on THF.org? I can't remember...

[Rocky Raccoon]

Isn't that the premiere of Season 3?

[Richardstone]

Isn't that the premiere of Season 3?

From the official site...

The new season premieres on Wednesday, October 4 @ 9/8c.


I'm checking THF.org now...

Dang, it was October 28, 2003...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v115/Richardstone/alvar.png

So close...

[truffula]

Has'nt the best before date been used before as well?

October 23, 2006?

Was that the date on Alvars picture on THF.org? I can't remember...
Absolutely. As well as the original date on the ERI pic (and I think somewhere else too)

Isn't that the premiere of Season 3?
I believe the S3 premiere is Oct. 4th :D

[marcthebeat]

Maybe, it does'nt say Apollo Bar that's for sure...

There's a thread specifically for this now, you should post this over there too...

:)

Thank you :)

[Rocky Raccoon]

Oh October 4th. Even better!

:)

[marcthebeat]

any ideas on the figures on the bars then guys?

http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1933&d=1155067280

http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1934&d=1155067322

http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1935&d=1155067348

[truffula]

The first two letters appear to be Wh
But I think we'll get a much better look when we have one in our hands (somehow) ;)

btw - POST 1 ARCHIVE is COMPLETE :D
Enjoy! :)

[Richardstone]

The first two letters appear to be Wh
But I think we'll get a much better look when we have one in our hands (somehow) ;)

btw - POST 1 ARCHIVE is COMPLETE :D
Enjoy! :)

Where is Alvar?

:)

[snakey]

do you think this Benson is Fenry? not the elder but the son, I'd love him even more if he had chocolate.

[truffula]

do you think this Benson is Fenry? not the elder but the son, I'd love him even more if he had chocolate.
I don't know about Fenry....but I had another idea how this guy might connect into all this....

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/truffula/Webmaze%20Pics/M.jpg

Doesn't he look an awful lot like........speaker??

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/truffula/Webmaze%20Pics/SpeakerBenson.jpg


Hehehe....I emailed this to him too ;)

[LAN]

Where is Alvar?

:)

My thoughts exactly.

As always. TRUFF......DJ Dan should keep his eyes on you......

CUZ YOU DA MAN!!!!!!

[PandoraX]

Yay! Finally, a NON glyph clue... I was getting so bored of those, and dropping out of the webmaze. :)

I wish I had read your posts here first, I wouldn't have tried 185192 as a code, also, truff. :) And I'm sure we're not the only ones.

Is there anything else of interest on this site? Seems like a lot of info for it to go nowhere. I noticed almost all the numbers are The Numbers. Also seems to be a lot of info on the Jeep FC 150, I think Jeep.com will be a source of clues soon.

[truffula]

Someone over on the comments at ITE thinks they see .com at the end of the candy bar, but I don't see it.....

Also....as of right now, even with the site being LIVE, the WhoIs record still says "no website". Now I imagine that will change soon, and when it does, I'll be Reverse IPing that sucker so fast to see what other sites they have up their sleeve...:hyper:

[LAN]

Taking shots in the dark, i know...but the silhouette looks a lot like this guy......our old friend....
http://img315.imageshack.us/img315/3620/drcn9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[snakey]

that kid looks a lot like a younger Aaron Carter to me, LOL. Now we know why he always has/had zits.

[PandoraX]

Um.. I'm not really thinking the siluouetted guy has any meaning right now hehe... just another Mr X to add to the mystery.

BTW,

1) Anyone getting anything when they click "Ad"? I'm not seeing the ad truff has in his toppost when you click there... it just does nothing for me.

2) I've noticed that 185192 appears on all the candy bars, sometimes partially obscured by the icons. Even though that's not a fragment code, I have a feeling it must mean SOMETHING.

[truffula]

Um.. I'm not really thinking the siluouetted guy has any meaning right now hehe... just another Mr X to add to the mystery.

BTW,

1) Anyone getting anything when they click "Ad"? I'm not seeing the ad truff has in his toppost when you click there... it just does nothing for me.

2) I've noticed that 185192 appears on all the candy bars, sometimes partially obscured by the icons. Even though that's not a fragment code, I have a feeling it must mean SOMETHING.
Oops....sorry Pan...the direct link is missing from Post 1...I will add right now :)

ETA - link added to Post 1 :)

[QuarterRoy00]

I tried looking around jeep.com for the FC-150 and didn't find anything. Even did a search which turned up bupkis.

[truffula]

I tried looking around jeep.com for the FC-150 and didn't find anything. Even did a search which turned up bupkis.
The only thing I found was this tiny pic of a toy of it:

http://museums.leics.gov.uk/collections-on-line/imagestore/o62002_3_0at.jpg

(from Google image search for 1959 Jeep FC-150)

[PandoraX]

Thanks for the link, truff! Yay, I can view it now. So where's my free apollo bar offer, eh??

So, I couldn't find much on the Jeep FC 150 either... here's a page on it (of course, not in game) that has more info on the trucks....

http://jeepfc.www5.50megs.com/fc150/fc-150.htm

Nothing much as far as clues... guess it's just another time reference? Maybe Jeep.com will have some ad later that's a "blast from the past" reference.

[Richardstone]

Nothing much as far as clues... guess it's just another time reference?

Rather than a plug for Jeep?

:)

Do you think that Apollo bars are no longer Full O'Nuts because they plan to selll them at some stage? A lot of people are allergic to nuts...

[PandoraX]

Rather than a plug for Jeep?

:)

Aww... say it ain't so... TLE going commercial?? :p

[HansoLow]

Here's the best I could do so far with the apollo bar. I'm not sure what's between th "wh" and the ".com", but there's definitely something there. Someone over on TLE said it was WHAMM.com, but I don't see that.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n160/hansolow/apollo.jpg

[Richardstone]

And at exactly the same time, I bring you timdor's effort (from The Fuselage), it does'nt say Widmore does it?

http://timdorr.com/images/Lost/apollocandy/reconstruct.jpg

:)

ETA:- I can see a number 4 in that address, wh??4.com?

I dunno, I can't really see the .com bit either if I'm honest

[QuarterRoy00]

[Dumb observation alert!!]

I just noticed that in the last shot of the big candy bar on the main page, when it is broken into pieces, the blank space created by the pieces is in the shape of the state of Minnesota.

http://go.metrostate.edu/%7Ezimmersh/apolloMN.jpghttp://go.metrostate.edu/%7Ezimmersh/minnesota.gif

Henry Gale strikes again!!

[end dumb observation]

[truffula]

I'm sittin here playin around with the candy bar pics yal posted, and am making a little progress....

The spaces/exact number of letters in the url is hard to tell, but at first I felt almost certain that the e was the last letter (ie - __e.com) but now I'm not so sure. I am, however, certain that e is one of the letters.
I offer this comparison:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/truffula/Webmaze%20Pics/Apollo%20Candy/apollo-newwebsiteonbar1.jpg http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/truffula/Webmaze%20Pics/Apollo%20Candy/apollo-newwebsiteonbar-e1.jpg


ETA - took out the part I was dead wrong about :p

One last thought (and yal might not like this one)....
I considered the possibility that its not actually a real website, rather the ARG Puppetmasters poking fun at us.....that would be.....if the url was whine.com (cause of all the folks complaining about this Act :p)

[HansoLow]

Here's what the bar should look like with no wrapper. When I added the "wh" onto the photo in my last post, I didn't take into account the full size of the bar:

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n160/hansolow/new-apollo.jpg

[truffula]

Here's what the bar should look like with no wrapper. When I added the "wh" onto the photo in my last post, I didn't take into account the full size of the bar:

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n160/hansolow/new-apollo.jpg

That helps me out TREMENDOUSLY over here....thanks HansoLow!! :)

[Murky Majare]

whine.com was created way back in 1995, and leads to a blank page with a "nothing to see here".

where.com leads to a page with a lot of pictures on it... It was created eons ago in 1994, but was last updated earlier today. Haven't found anything lost'ish related though


Are we certain that the picture of the kid eating the bar reads 'wh... .com' (with space for 2-3 more letters) ?

A few other sites seems insistent on it being a very long word/sentence.

[DeathMountain]

It looks like in the empty space after "wh" you could fit a round letter like "o", "c", "a" or another "e". (Don't think that was addressed. I'm kinda out of it tonight so I may be making obvious observations.)

[Rocky Raccoon]

Is that an M on the gold wrapper?

I can kinda see it saying who am i, so I tried whoami.com and all it says is "Hello, World!"

[HansoLow]

Does anyone else see something that looks like "glv..." before the ".com"?

[Murky Majare]

I'm not good at making screenshots or anything like that, but I think the candybar-unwrapped/broken in the two versions have their shadows and bulks a bit differently.

So, I was wondering if someone could post screenshots of both and work with all four images to decipher its meaning?

I mean, why go through all the trouble of programming this difference if it is for no use?

[truffula]

Are we certain that the picture of the kid eating the bar reads 'wh... .com' (with space for 2-3 more letters) ?

I was totally incorrect in my earlier post about the number of letters in the url. I edited my post and took out the erroneous information.
My best guess as of right now would be:

wh(o, e, or a) ? e _ h _ e.com

[DeathMountain]

I will now ramble.
The lower-case letters of the alphabet can be separated into a few groups, some in more than one group at a time, based on dimensions.
a, c, e, o - the round group. All of them are basically the same size. b, d, g, p, and q also fit into this group, but their stems make them stick out. Their height is greater than the first four.
b, d, f, h, i, k, l, t - letters that stick UP. "j" also fits here with its similarity to "i", but it also belongs in the next group.
g, j, p, q, y - letters that stick DOWN.
n, u, v, x, z - not much about these sticks out. They're just ordinary letters.
m, w - letters that stick OUT. Their width is greater than other letters.
f, i, j, l, r, t - skinny letters, basically. These letters got nothing to eat as children.
Why do I sound so serious!?
Moving on, I think I see a "ph" on the part under the gold wrapper. I'm pretty sure about the "h", not so much the "p".
Minus the spaces, it might be w h o/e/c _ p h _ _ . c o m

[truffula]

Just a random thought here.....

I was under the impression that this url would probably have something to do with chocolate or candy....
But what about APOLLO....not the candy, the GOD.
I was brainstorming with my brother and he said "weren't yal talkin about a Persephone before? It might be some sort of Greek Gods name..."

Just food for thought ;)

[QuarterRoy00]

Apollo could have something to do with the NASA missions as well....

[Murky Majare]

With two suggestions of _ _ h _ e and _ p h _ _

a name that does fit is Daphne, one of Apollo's women.

[DeathMountain]

Whope (http://www.pantheon.org/articles/w/whope.html). . . Sioux Indians goddess, daughter of the Sun and the Moon . . .

[NeillT006]

what about the bar code?

N.

[truffula]

what about the bar code?

N.
Neill....dude.....you never cease to amaze me....:D

Someone get on that bar code ASAP!!!
I have no idea how to do it :p

[Murky Majare]

Heh... interresting sidenote.

Leto, the Titan and mother of Apollo (and his twin sister Artemis) was hunted by Hera, and Leto hid on an island which Hera could not see/find and gave birth to the two children there.

Interresting when compared to the theories about our island being invisible to God even, (and mere mortals), and with the statue of that ancient four toed whatnot (a Titan perhaps?)

[ozchick]

I know this is not really related to clues, but I will just say that TPTB could make a TON of money if they released the last few glyphs via a "golden ticket" like process and actually sold these candy bars. Just reading this thread I need to go find some chocolate to kill the craving. :D

[DeathMountain]

Pic of the barcode.

[Richardstone]

I think I got it?!??!

It's loading, sorry if this is a false alarm but it looks promising...

I'm not technically minded but while it was loading I jotted down the xxx.xxx.xx.xxx number, will that help to identify it as part of TLE...

:confused:

ETA:- Awww dang, it says Action Cancelled, I thought I had it there, I could taste the chocolatey glyph, it tries desperately to load and does'nt take me to google or msnsearch like other things I've tried...

[truffula]

I think I got it?!??!

It's loading, sorry if this is a false alarm but it looks promising...

I'm not technically minded but while it was loading I jotted down the xxx.xxx.xx.xxx number, will that help to identify it as part of TLE...

:confused:

ETA:- Awww dang, it says Action Cancelled, I thought I had it there, I could taste the chocolatey glyph, it tries desperately to load and does'nt take me to google or msnsearch like other things I've tried...
What was the url you tried?

[QuarterRoy00]

Neill....dude.....you never cease to amaze me....:D

Someone get on that bar code ASAP!!!
I have no idea how to do it :p

Do y'all mean what the bar code means when scanned?

If so, it should equal the same as the number displayed according to how regular bar codes work. Then again, they could have made this bar code's value be our fragment code....

[Richardstone]

What was the url you tried?

So you can steal my glyph?!?!?

NEVER!!!!

:nanabobo:

All the other url's I tried just went nowhere but this one does something...

It tries desperately to load...

[NeillT006]

I read something about bar code numbers omitting zeros. The full number may be in the bars themselves.

Tangent: The boy and dog are on stage at the Apollo.

N.

[Murky Majare]

Have a (candy) barcode in front of me right now, and it has zeroes in it, and having checked several other barcodes, they appear to all have 12 digits (plus a control value), and our apollo bar code is only 6, so there might be another half out there somewhere...

... or it might be a red herring.

At any rate... if done correctly, the bars are grouped and each represents a number between 0 and 9. (and visa versa).
(With 12 digits we would have an ip address, but alas, we only have six digits).

[DeathMountain]

Apparently there's more than one type of barcode. http://www.insightu.org/hobby/guide_mfr/app.htm

[Richardstone]

It was a false alarm after all, huge thanks to truffula for checking this out for me...

www.whereishe.com (http://www.whereishe.com)

http://whois.domaintools.com/whereishe.com

I really thought I got one then, back to the hunt...

:)

lostinSLC from The fusleage just spotted the Apollo Candy ad here...

http://abc.go.com

[truffula]

Here's what I'm working with now....

whe_e_h_e.com
who_e_h_e.com
wha_e_h_e.com

OR

whe_e_ _h_e.com
who_e_ _h_e.com
wha_e_ _h_e.com

And I'm not 100% with the h so....:p
I'm havin fun, I don't care ;)

[WASTE]

http:///www.whoarewe.com ...?

Enh, doubt it. Doesn't look TLE-ified enough.

I'm stumped! It definitely looks like it says something though.

[MoogleLally]

I'm trying whereishe.com, but it isn't loading...

[aggiesean]

I'm trying whereishe.com, but it isn't loading...
Whereishe.com is a background check website registered from 1997. Definitely not ARG-related. :)

:Cowdance:

[MoogleLally]

Dang! And I was about to feel all special.

Also, as a candy shop employee, I am very sad they're not making this candy.

[truffula]

I'm not giving up on this candy bar url just yet.

I've looked at this thing for some time now (despite internet connection problems I'm having) and I *think* I may be on to something....

I said before, what I'm workin with is something close to this:

whe _ e. _ _ _ e.com

Yep. Just like stophanso.rachelblake.com, I think its a split url. Not one long word (and I could be TOTALLY wrong about this too :p)

The reason I think this is cause I was lookin at the size of the lettering and the spacing, and between the last letter I can identify (the e) and the following character doesn't leave enough space for another letter.
So I compared that general area with that which we know is .com and it really looks like a . goes where I put it above.

Again, I could just be goin blind from staring at this for so long ;)

[littlelabrynth]

I was looking at the comments on Speaker's (http://www.insidetheexperience.com/2006/08/week_forteen_ro.html#comments) site and whereisalvar.com (http://whereisalvar.com/) was suggested as a possibility. The site is not active.
Here is the whois info.
Domain Name: WHEREISALVAR.COM
Registrar: REGISTER.COM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.register.com
Referral URL: http://www.register.com
Name Server: DNS10.REGISTER.COM
Name Server: DNS9.REGISTER.COM
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
EPP Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 05-Aug-2006
Creation Date: 15-May-2006
Expiration Date: 15-May-2007

>>> Last update of whois database: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 23:50:45 EDT <<<

[truffula]

I was looking at the comments on Speaker's (http://www.insidetheexperience.com/2006/08/week_forteen_ro.html#comments) site and whereisalvar.com (http://whereisalvar.com/) was suggested as a possibility. The site is not active.
Here is the whois info.

I'm gonna go ahead and say that this is not it.
The site was registered on May 15 - not a week after the Alvar Bio Hack on THF.org that coined the phrase "Where Is Alvar?"
All the sites that are "in-game" so far were created around April.
Truff says no dice on this one....:)

[verd99]

I have been lurking for a while but this is my first post. Just an observation but we only have half a bar code. It looks like the first half which is the manufacture's code (ie THF) is missing. Maybe the whole upc is a glyph or some other clue. Have we seen any other hanso barcodes?

[Maestra]

I have been lurking for a while but this is my first post. Just an observation but we only have half a bar code. It looks like the first half which is the manufacture's code (ie THF) is missing. Maybe the whole upc is a glyph or some other clue. Have we seen any other hanso barcodes?
Welcome, verd99! :)

I like your thinking! I do not recall seeing any other Hanso barcodes yet. But now my eyes will be peeled!

[LostEmissary]

I see a couple of people have beat me to this, but since you can never have too much chocolate, here's my photoshopping effort:

http://i6.tinypic.com/243ncrq.jpg

It doesn't look like ".com" at the end, at least not to me. More like "ev_" perhaps? However, I think the process of enlarging may only end up distorting what might be there.

ETA: Yeah, ignore the blurred letters, as something with the resizing/rotating has distorted the original. It could certainly be ".com"... Here's a better shot:

http://i2.tinypic.com/243nih0.jpg

[mentalabc123]

I see a couple of people have beat me to this, but since you can never have too much chocolate, here's my photoshopping effort:

http://i6.tinypic.com/243ncrq.jpg

It doesn't look like ".com" at the end, at least not to me. More like "ev_" perhaps? However, I think the process of enlarging may only end up distorting what might be there.

ETA: Yeah, ignore the blurred letters, as something with the resizing/rotating has distorted the original. It could certainly be ".com"... Here's a better shot:

http://i2.tinypic.com/243nih0.jpg

i'd just like to say that the top and bottom pics look different. i can see .com at the end of the writing on the bottom one, and i cant make out .com anywhere on the top pic.

[MichelaOS]

It doesn't seem as though anyone has mentioned this yet but on one of the pages on the site, they mentioned the Cow Hollow district and that has both a w and h. Could it possibibly be annagramed int so something?

Michelle

[LAN]

It doesn't seem as though anyone has mentioned this yet but on one of the pages on the site, they mentioned the Cow Hollow district and that has both a w and h. Could it possibibly be annagramed int so something?

Michelle

All I know is that there is one person who would frackin go Joop Poop if there was something planted in Cow Hollow. I am a 4 minute walk from there (for all you stalkers).

[PandoraX]

Have we discussed the new FLickr album yet? Rachel Blake's album, from entering "nanite" in sublymonal... feeds you clues that lead you here:

http://flickr.com/photos/38184554@N00/

TLEC blog put together the pieces of the letter to reveal another one from Dr. Hackett & the EDC.. and now we know what Project Sumo was! Had to do with disguising the intentional spread of a virus through Apollo soda... pretty twisted. I'm adding the definition of psychotropic to the All-Medical thread glossary.

CONFIDENTIAL MEMORANDUM

TO: Dr. Hackett
Apollo Candy

FROM: G. Downs
Engineering Development Center
Atlanta, GA

Date: July 21, 2004

RE: Test Study

Dr. Hackett,

Initial research shows release of the psychotropic compound to be
a success. The acid and flavoring agents of the beverage disguise the
taste. More tests are necessary to reach optimum viral spread. My superiors are eager for you to join our effort, once you have extricated
yourself from your current situationn.

G.

[truffula]

The only comment I have about the memo beyond my posts last night is that I think the titles should be switched:

TO: Dr. Hackett
Engineering Develpoment Center
Atlanta, GA

FROM: G. Downs
Apollo Candy

ETA - okay I do have one more thing to add - the date - July 21, 2004 - for timeline reference

[Richardstone]

You know how many people missed the word beverage (I did), there's been a bit of talk about who ate the psychotropic candy...

I'm glad that one is cleared up...

[sexy baby mama]

Does Apollo even make soda??? I thought the company was specifically a chocolate company. Did I miss something?

[Richardstone]

Does Apollo even make soda??? I thought the company was specifically a chocolate company. Did I miss something?

It says beverage in the memo, that's the only source so far...

Chaz, was that in the unsees flashbacks from the DVD?

[chaz]

OK, How about Apollo Coffee? The memo does say BEVERAGE.

[Richardstone]

OK, How about Apollo Coffee? The memo does say BEVERAGE.

So long as it does'nt turn out to be SPRITE I'm open to all possibilities...

[rvturnage]

"the acid and flavoring agents..." sounds like cola to me, not coffee...

[Richardstone]

"the acid and flavoring agents..." sounds like cola to me, not coffee...

Then I'm going with chaz and voting Nozz-A-La...

[NeillT006]

Three things:

1. There does happen to a be a fairly well known beverage company home based in Atlanta, no?

2. ***

3. The letters on the candy bar: any chance that it is the same word twice, from left to right and from right to left, one of the words being flipped 180 degrees?

N.

[truffula]

Just a heads up here....

Can we keep discussion of Henry Gale's balloon to the BUILDING THE STORYLINE BEHIND THE CLUES thread (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19024)

And all discussions about the legitimacy of certain sites to ALL-FRAUD thread (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18519).

ETA - cleanup done. Carry on. :)

Thanks! :)

Peace,
Truff

[Vanda]

I'm sorry if this has been brought up already, but I didn't see it.

I speculated that the wording on the candy bar could actually be "whois.com," which would tell us to look up the whois data on apollocandy.com. Doing that, there are three email addresses that look A LOT like glyphs.


Whois lookup for apollocandy.com.

Whois Server Version 2.0

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.


Domain Name: APOLLOCANDY.COM
Registrar: REGISTER.COM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.register.com
Referral URL: http://www.register.com
Name Server: NS2.MEDIATEMPLE.NET
Name Server: NS1.MEDIATEMPLE.NET
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
EPP Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 07-Aug-2006
Creation Date: 14-Apr-2006
Expiration Date: 14-Apr-2007

>>> Last update of whois database: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 21:11:33 EDT <<<

Registrant:
Domain Discreet
ATTN: apollocandy.com
P.O. Box 278
Yarmouth, NS B5A 4B2
CA
Email: ec447f230a1e672800215464900a1255@domaindiscreet.co m

Registrar Name....: REGISTER.COM, INC.
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: www.register.com

Domain Name: apollocandy.com

Created on..............: Fri, Apr 14, 2006
Expires on..............: Sat, Apr 14, 2007
Record last updated on..: Tue, Aug 08, 2006

Administrative Contact:
Domain Discreet
ATTN: apollocandy.com
P.O. Box 278
Yarmouth, NS B5A 4B2
CA
Phone: 1-902-7495331
Email: ec447f190a1e67280114ede2c2905805@domaindiscreet.co m

Technical Contact:
Domain Discreet
ATTN: apollocandy.com
P.O. Box 278
Yarmouth, NS B5A 4B2
CA
Phone: 1-902-7495331
Email: ec447f290a1e672800e0c886f06531a8@domaindiscreet.co m

DNS Servers:

ns2.mediatemple.net
ns1.mediatemple.net


Register your domain name at http://www.register.com


Also notice that the record was last updated on August 8, which if I'm not mistaken was the day that glyph 29 was released. Is it possible these email addresses were just added on Tuesday?

I've tried to enter a ton of different combinations based on the three addresses, with no luck so far, but maybe someone else will have more luck.

[truffula]

Well, Vanda, now that you mention WhoIs....

I've been trying to get an IP address for this site so I can Reverse IP it like I did with rachelblake.com to find hansoexposed.com to see what else is there.
I went to a translator site (that I cant find anymore for some reason) and got the IP for this site finally. However, it was that of thehansofoundation.org - and apollocandy.com does NOT show up on a Reverse IP query for it - which means they figured out how to hide the sites from us after we found hansoexposed.com a month early.

[csmicbcklsh]

Dang Truff...looks like TPTB are finally catching on to all of our backdoor methods.

[Vanda]

You found hansoexposed.com a month early, Truff??

Heh, reverse engineering, right over my head. :)

[truffula]

You found hansoexposed.com a month early, Truff??

Heh, reverse engineering, right over my head. :)
Yep. :D
Right after Rachel's video was "found" on that monster.com site, someone figured out that rachelblake.com was a site and I decided to Reverse IP it and what did I find? hansoexposed.com ;)
Check the date on Post 1 in there - that's when it was found :)

[Vanda]

Back on topic, the whois data for valenzettiequation.com, rachelblake.com, and hansoexposed.com also have long email addresses in them, but different ones. Maybe one of them, or part of one of them, is the code.

[Billy Shears]

WOW! unless I've had too much Southern Comfort, and missed it, did anyone see the AD during a commercial break for the JIMMY KIMMEL show last night?? This would be Wednesday nights/Early Thursday mornings show.
My only other observation/coincidence (you know I LOVE them) is Charlie and the chocolate factory. Since LOST has a Charlie, and TPTB have hinted at something we missed in the pilot, How about THE LAST LINE from the pilot, Charlie Pace saying "Guys, where are we?" Off now to check wherearewe.com
(my dumb observation being that since Mr. Ecko is a bad speller, how bout WhillieWhonka.com)
I got an hour and a half til Kimmel comes on, maybe they'll show the ad again.

[truffula]

WOW! unless I've had too much Southern Comfort, and missed it, did anyone see the AD during a commercial break for the JIMMY KIMMEL show last night?? This would be Wednesday nights/Early Thursday mornings show.
My only other observation/coincidence (you know I LOVE them) is Charlie and the chocolate factory. Since LOST has a Charlie, and TPTB have hinted at something we missed in the pilot, How about THE LAST LINE from the pilot, Charlie Pace saying "Guys, where are we?" Off now to check wherearewe.com
(my dumb observation being that since Mr. Ecko is a bad speller, how bout WhillieWhonka.com)
I got an hour and a half til Kimmel comes on, maybe they'll show the ad again.
I would not be at all surprised to hear that the AD aired during Kimmel.
Thanks for the info! :)

[Billy Shears]

BOOYAH! wherearewe.com took me to this
http://wherearewe.com/index.html
OBS security systems. Perhaps the security system Rosseau spoke of??

I hope I've done ya proud Truff! I do owe you one.

[truffula]

BOOYAH! wherearewe.com took me to this
http://wherearewe.com/index.html
OBS security systems. Perhaps the security system Rosseau spoke of??

I hope I've done ya proud Truff! I do owe you one.

Sorry Billy, no dice.

HERE (http://whois.domaintools.com/wherearewe.com) is the WhoIs for this site that shows its not in-game.
Good try though :)

[Billy Shears]

On the site, it gives reasons for needing the OBS car video survillance, and the LAST ONE was:
Have you ever been in a car accident and needed evidence of the incident?
Hmmmmm. Maybe John Locke is in a wheelchair due to this, OR MICHAEL knew who hit him. The examples all show a Mercedes driving. A Merceds is a car a Widmore could afford. I know it wasn't a Mercedes that hit Michael, but perhaps the car that hit him, and Locke, was equipped with the OBS, and maybe the car was driven by Penny Widmore's alcoholic boyfirend, Desmond. May be grabbing at straws here and this probably belongs in another forum, but it is nevertheless an odd coicidence (did I mention I LOVE them) Jeez, I wish someone was in the chat room.

Sorry Billy, no dice.

HERE (http://whois.domaintools.com/wherearewe.com) is the WhoIs for this site that shows its not in-game.
Good try though :)

Well, it was worth a shot.

Although, at the bottom of the page, there is a pic of 4 people from popular mechanics. one is editor in chief Jim Meigs. When I googled Jim Meigs, I got THIS:
http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/transcripts_022505_truth.html
ANOTHER COINCIDENCE perhaps.
Since this thread is about apollo chocolate though, I'll get back on track and assume, this is why Henry Gale asked Locke and Jack if they had any milk. Everyone knows milk chocolate is the best :-)

ETA
I found this segment of the interview to be the most interesting. This is a direct quote from Jim Meigs and is unedited
JAMES MEIGS: No, we, we didn't come to any conclusions in advance. In fact, you know, there are certain things that conspiracy theorists claim that aren't completely beyond the pale, such as the idea that maybe a US military plane actually shot down the jet - Flight 93 - over Shanksville, Pennsylvania. I mean that's not a bizarre thing to wonder about, and if there is evidence that might support that, that's an important thing to look into. So, we went into it with an open mind. But when we traced these facts back to the source, they evaporated. They fell apart. I mean in the case of Shanksville, a lot of websites talk about a mysterious white plane that was seen circling the wreckage, and there's debate as to whether it was an unmarked Air Force plane or it had some kind of electro-magnetic device which would have forced the plane down. Well, we located the plane, talked to the pilot. It was just an ordinary commercial flight that happened to be on approach to a nearby airport. The FAA asked it to go in and confirm that a plane had crashed there, and it did that, and they went on their way

[blondiejam]

Billy - instead of doing the multiple postings, just edit the first post, adding the new info using ETA. that way the threads don't get soooo long :)

[Billy Shears]

Thank You Blondie, I've done just that. Now, scroll up, and read the post. The last 3 lines are MOST IMPORTANT and deal with electromagnetism. I know the whatis doesn't match up, but I STILL think I'm onto something. Even the street address for popular mechanics is 714. continuing with the RETIRED YANKEE NUMBERS THEORY 4 8 15 16 23 and 42. the street address is 714, the exact total of Babe Ruth's home runs :-)

ETA
If Entertainment Weekly comes looking for me, my name is Tracy, and I live in Baltimore, about 5 minutes from where Babe Ruth was born, and I drive a JEEP Another beautiful coincidence, and I haven't decided if I'll sleep well tonight or not, although I hope everyone here at LOST-TV has a great night!

[ozchick]

New feature on the site: US Distribution. They will be giving away candy bars in NYC, DC, Philly, Chicago, Santa Monica, and San Fran. Dates are on the site.

No Boston. :(

[truffula]

New feature on the site: US Distribution. They will be giving away candy bars in NYC, DC, Philly, Chicago, Santa Monica, and San Fran. Dates are on the site.

No Boston. :(
I don't have flash on this compy, can someone please post the dates?

YAAAAAAAAAAYYY!!! They're coming to Philly!!!! :blinkie: :hyper:

[cricer]

New feature on the site: US Distribution. They will be giving away candy bars in NYC, DC, Philly, Chicago, Santa Monica, and San Fran. Dates are on the site.

No Boston. :(
Psh, at least the chocolate giveaways are in your contry :(
America! Can't wait to get your hot little hands on the most scrumptious, most ummmm-tious, chocolate bar in the world? You don't have to!

The Apollo Candy Company is thrilled to announce our legendary Apollo Bars are being given away free for a limited time at the following locations and times. Supplies are limited, so just one bar per person per location. Act fast! Once these Apollo Bars are gone, they're really gone!

Quoted word for word bye crice421. :D

[duality]

Apollo screencap

http://thelostexperience.info/apollo.jpg

[ozchick]

The main text is:
"America! Can't wait to get your hot little hands on the most scrumptious, most ummmm-tious, chocolate bar in the world? You don't have to.

The Apollo Candy Company is thrilled to announce our legendary Apollo Bars are being given away free for a limited time at the following locations and times. Supplies are limited, so just one bar per person, per location. Act fast! Once these Apollo Bars are gone, they're really gone!"

ETA: Too slow. :D

[cricer]

Heehee, Oz just typed out something she didn't need to :D

[cricer]

Thanks for the picture duality, now I can study it without jumping screens!

[theidofbrad]

That's cool and all, but it sure does suck that I'll never get to taste the deliciousness of an Apollo bar (which is probably just a hershey bar) :mad:

[cricer]

That's cool and all, but it sure does suck that I'll never get to taste the deliciousness of an Apollo bar (which is probably just a hershey bar) :mad:
Or dairymilk? :p

[Lawboy]

Who will make the Apollo Bar, is a good question. I hope either Cadbury or Ghiradelli. Love both. MMMMMM, chocolate.

[chaz]

I'm from Philly and my wife is due on 9/9/06. I can't believe I'm gonna miss the handout!!!

[Richardstone]

elpaw at The Fuselage found this...

There's a link in the apollocandy.com swf to http://www.apollocandy.com/apollo_UK.swf (http://www.apollocandy.com/apollo_UK.swf) (doesn't exist yet) next to the link to http://www.apollocandy.com/apolloUS.swf (http://www.apollocandy.com/apolloUS.swf) which was activated today. So I think there will be a UK distribution at some point in the future.

I hope that Portsmouth (home of The Black Rock) and Manchester (birthplace of Charlie Pace) are among the places chosen to hand out the candy...

[elpaw]

elpaw at The Fuselage found this...

I hope that Portsmouth (home of The Black Rock) and Manchester (birthplace of Charlie Pace) are among the places chosen to hand out the candy... Hello there ;)

I also added this: I don't think many Northern Irish are going to be happy with their button image for the link: http://users.ox.ac.uk/~chri1957/UkDistribution.swf (http://users.ox.ac.uk/%7Echri1957/UkDistribution.swf)

Also, I made a mistake, it's http://www.apollocandy.com/apollo-UK.swf - not apollo_UK.swf. Sorry.

[Richardstone]

Hello there ;)

I also added this: I don't think many Northern Irish are going to be happy with their button image for the link: http://users.ox.ac.uk/~chri1957/UkDistribution.swf (http://users.ox.ac.uk/%7Echri1957/UkDistribution.swf)

Also, I made a mistake, it's http://www.apollocandy.com/apollo-UK.swf - not apollo_UK.swf. Sorry.

Hey there he is, hello elpaw...

:)

[Risky]

I also added this: I don't think many Northern Irish are going to be happy with their button image for the link
You mean people from the Republic of Ireland. (Eire). Northern Ireland is a part of the UK.

[elpaw]

You mean people from the Republic of Ireland. (Eire). Northern Ireland is a part of the UK.
I mentioned it because the button missed out the cross of St Patrick (the Northern Irish representation on the flag) from the Union Flag

[Risky]

elpaw at The Fuselage found this...



I hope that Portsmouth (home of The Black Rock) and Manchester (birthplace of Charlie Pace) are among the places chosen to hand out the candy...
That's just a bizarre thing to hope for...

[rvturnage]

That's just a bizarre thing to hope for...
I'm thinking Richard is in that general area himself...

[sculpey]

I am SO going to the giveaway in DC !!

[PandoraX]

Cool sculpey (and welcome back!)...

I'll be out of town that week, but coincidentally in NYC, so I may try to go to that one...

[sculpey]

Damn, Pan........... I was hoping you'd buy the drinks ;)

[Richardstone]

I'm thinking Richard is in that general area himself...

Yup

:)

[rvturnage]

Yup

:)
I thought so...

You are gonna sing the "oompalumpa" song when you go get your candy bar, right?

[PandoraX]

Damn, Pan........... I was hoping you'd buy the drinks ;)

Yeah, I was sad that the date in DC coincided with when I need to be out of town...because I think you owe ME... :p

/threadjack

[chaz]

Hey Truff, If my wife isn't in labor on 9/9/06 we can carpool. I'll drive

[PandoraX]

Hey Truff, If my wife isn't in labor on 9/9/06 we can carpool. I'll drive

ROFL... could you imagine how pissed chaz's wife will be if he's stuck in traffic trying to get a free candy bar when she goes into labor?? J/k chazzy!

/2nd threadjack... yeah, I'm bad.

[chaz]

ROFL... could you imagine how pissed chaz's wife will be if he's stuck in traffic trying to get a free candy bar when she goes into labor?? J/k chazzy!

/2nd threadjack... yeah, I'm bad.

I promised her I would stop at Gino's in South Philly to grab her a cheesesteak:)

[blondiejam]

is 9/9 a weekend? i can sooo be in philly if it is!!!

[Richardstone]

I thought so...

You are gonna sing the "oompalumpa" song when you go get your candy bar, right?

I just might...

Oompa loompa doompety doo
I've got another puzzle for you
Oompa loompa doompeda plyph
If you are wise you'll give me a glyph

[truffula]

is 9/9 a weekend? i can sooo be in philly if it is!!!
Its a Saturday :blinkie: :blinkie: :blinkie:
See ya there! :D
Come EARLY ;)

[HansoLow]

I'm definitely going to the one in LA...anyone else?

[blondiejam]

Its a Saturday :blinkie: :blinkie: :blinkie:
See ya there! :D
Come EARLY ;)

that's right near Curtis, correct??? OMG it's in one of the two freakin places in philly i know how to get to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:

[Selestina118]

I want to try to get to Philly. My mom thinks I'm insane going into the city just for some free chocolate. ;) It was either Philly or NYC, and Philly is closer.

I can't wait!!! :goodvibes:blinkie::bunny:

:Cheers:

[snakey]

If I do it in times square I sure wont tell anyone except on this board, my friends would just have me committed. So it seems Hanso is in with ABC to have them so openly do this giveaway as well as sponsoring the fuselage (I know it's not a real corp, aint that nutz).

[DeathMountain]

Anyone wanna grab an extra and mail it to me or something? :D I'll even take it melted. :p
No one ever comes to Houston. Except for Jasper Fforde. 'Cause he kicks batooty.

[necrosloth]

deathmountain is right
no one ever comes to houston :(
i'll try to console myself with the fact the apollo bars would melt instantly ;)

[chaz]

is 9/9 a weekend? i can sooo be in philly if it is!!!
Its a saturday. We should start a thread and wear nametags

[blondiejam]

Its a saturday. We should start a thread and wear nametags

:yeah:

[csmicbcklsh]

I'm definitely going to the one in LA...anyone else?

I am definitely going to try and make it to the one in LA. I live in SD, so my friend and I will probably drive up, spend the night there, and drive back the next day. I think we should start a thread for each city, so people can coordinate with each other on this.

[Billy Shears]

Looks like I'll be going to the one in Philly. Probably won't run into Chaz though, since the last time I was in Philly, I had a Geno's cheesesteak, and this time I want to try one from Pat's because I heard they were better :-)

[truffula]

Well the WhoIs for this site is finally showing results that let me do a reverse IP check. Unfortunately they didn't give the result I was hoping for (more new sites). All I found was that this site is on the same server as THF, RB, etc.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/truffula/Webmaze%20Pics/Apollo%20Candy/apollocandyreverseip1.jpg

So either the site on the bar isn't set up yet, or there is no site on the bar. (I think there is a site, but just not online yet...we'll find out in a few weeks ;))

[littlelabrynth]

Truff, I was just wondering.....what about:
djdan.am & retrieversoftruth.com

Are these also on the same server. I don't know how to look-up djdan.am, but I did check the retrieversoftruth site on whois.com (http://whois.com/EasyDomainSearch.aspx?isavailable=no) and this is what I found:
Domain Name: RETREIVERSOFTRUTH.COM
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
Name Server: NS72.WORLDNIC.COM
Name Server: NS71.WORLDNIC.COM
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
EPP Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 08-Aug-2006
Creation Date: 07-Jun-2006
Expiration Date: 07-Jun-2007


Is ROT on the same server as the other sites? I really don't understand this stuff, but it looks like a second server. I could not get all the info I can for sites like rachelblake.com. This message was toward the bottom.
The IP address from which you have visited the Network Solutions Registrar WHOIS
database is contained within a list of IP addresses that may have failed
to abide by Network Solutions' WHOIS policy. Failure to abide by this policy can
adversely impact our systems and servers, preventing the processing of
other WHOIS requests

Just an observation...but the ROT site has a creation date of June 7, 2006. Does this mean we can't use the creation date of a site in order to help figure out whether it might or might not be in game? :confused:

[truffula]

Truff, I was just wondering.....what about:
djdan.am & retrieversoftruth.com

Are these also on the same server. I don't know how to look-up djdan.am, but I did check the retrieversoftruth site on whois.com (http://whois.com/EasyDomainSearch.aspx?isavailable=no) and this is what I found:


Is ROT on the same server as the other sites? I really don't understand this stuff, but it looks like a second server. I could not get all the info I can for sites like rachelblake.com. This message was toward the bottom.


Just an observation...but the ROT site has a creation date of June 7, 2006. Does this mean we can't use the creation date of a site in order to help figure out whether it might or might not be in game? :confused:

I may move these posts over to the RoT thread....but....
The RoT site is hosted along with several other verizon sites, including richerdeeperbroader.com and broadbandstories.com

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/truffula/Webmaze%20Pics/RoT%20site/RoTreverseIP1.jpg

Alot of the in-game sites were created in a 2 week block in April, but as you noticed, this isn't always the case. In this example, ABC likely paid Verizon to host the RoT site with the other new Verizon ad sites, and allow little things to be hidden on RDB and BBstories.
A little Reverse IPing and WhoIs lookups will help us tell what sites are in-game and which are not as far as namesake sites go (non public sites like flickr and myspace).

Now as far as DJ Dan's site, for some reason I can't get an IP, but the WhoIs record shows the site hosted on Media Temple's servers, which is an indication that the site is in-game:

Domain name: djdan.am
Status: active

Registrant:
none
2300 Kings Rd.
Los Angeles CA, 90046
US

Administrative contact:
Dan, DJ
DJ Dan
2300 Kings Rd.
Los Angeles CA, 90046
US
http://source.domaintools.com/email.pgif?md5=dae18839f0c3dd7327cd76d1d961e935
818-261-0113
818-261-0113

Technical contact:
Hostmaster
dotAM
760 Market St. Suite 958
San Francisco CA, 94102-2311
US
http://source.domaintools.com/email.pgif?md5=dae18839f0c3dd7327cd76d1d961e935
+1-415-677-4027
+1-415-677-4025

DNS servers:
ns1.mediatemple.net
ns2.mediatemple.net

Registered: 2006-04-11
Last modified: 2006-05-18
Expires: 2007-04-11

[littlelabrynth]

Thanks, truff.
Feel free to move wherever is most appropriate.

[duality]

Truff, I was just wondering.....what about:
djdan.am & retrieversoftruth.com


For djdan, if you put in a url of http://ll.djdan.am you get the Hanso shutdown site, so I'm pretty sure it's on the same server.

[Billy Shears]

On the site, it gives reasons for needing the OBS car video survillance, and the LAST ONE was:
Have you ever been in a car accident and needed evidence of the incident?
Hmmmmm. Maybe John Locke is in a wheelchair due to this, OR MICHAEL knew who hit him. The examples all show a Mercedes driving. A Merceds is a car a Widmore could afford. I know it wasn't a Mercedes that hit Michael, but perhaps the car that hit him, and Locke, was equipped with the OBS, and maybe the car was driven by Penny Widmore's alcoholic boyfirend, Desmond. May be grabbing at straws here and this probably belongs in another forum, but it is nevertheless an odd coicidence (did I mention I LOVE them)


Although, at the bottom of the page, there is a pic of 4 people from popular mechanics. one is editor in chief Jim Meigs . When I googled Jim Meigs, I got THIS:
http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/transcripts_022505_truth.html
ANOTHER COINCIDENCE perhaps.
Since this thread is about apollo chocolate though, I'll get back on track and assume, this is why Henry Gale asked Locke and Jack if they had any milk. Everyone knows milk chocolate is the best :-)

ETA
I found this segment of the interview to be the most interesting. This is a direct quote from Jim Meigs and is unedited
JAMES MEIGS: No, we, we didn't come to any conclusions in advance. In fact, you know, there are certain things that conspiracy theorists claim that aren't completely beyond the pale, such as the idea that maybe a US military plane actually shot down the jet - Flight 93 - over Shanksville, Pennsylvania. I mean that's not a bizarre thing to wonder about, and if there is evidence that might support that, that's an important thing to look into. So, we went into it with an open mind. But when we traced these facts back to the source, they evaporated. They fell apart. I mean in the case of Shanksville, a lot of websites talk about a mysterious white plane that was seen circling the wreckage, and there's debate as to whether it was an unmarked Air Force plane or it had some kind of electro-magnetic device which would have forced the plane down. Well, we located the plane, talked to the pilot. It was just an ordinary commercial flight that happened to be on approach to a nearby airport. The FAA asked it to go in and confirm that a plane had crashed there, and it did that, and they went on their way

Does this mean that my original finding (wherearewe.com) could eventually be game fodder??? Like I said, I don't play the game and apologize to Truff and Pan and ALL of you who have devoted the whole summer to this game. It peaked my interest AFTER I read BAD TWIN, and found the character of Mandrake Wig to be the most intriguing. I just think the interview with Jim Meigs entitled The PLANE truth, and the remarks about electromagnetism bringing down the the plane over the Pentagon (sort of a dHARMA SHAPED BUILDING) JUST SEEM TOO COINCIDENTAL TO ME. If the next step in the game goes in another direction, I'll never post in the webmaze forum again.
Truff, you're my Mandrake Wig , and your opinion is valued.
Thanks for your time all!

[Dagolu]

hmm, I was checking out the "the man" section and the expiry date of the chocolate bar is oct 23 06. could that be a code for somthing eg. glyph? or is it a date for something? lost episode perhaps? I'm also wondering, if hanso can make ranch dip that doesn't expire, unrefrigirated, for 3 months (or whatever the amount of time is) how can he not make an unexpirable chocolate bar?

eta: WAIT what if that date is the result of the valinzetti equasion. all the bar says is enjoy by oct 23 06. is that the end of the world?

[Rocky Raccoon]

I hope not.... ;)

I bet it's the Finale of Act III.

[truffula]

HOLY CRAP!!!!
I think I found it!!! :D
The url on the Apollo bar!!!

www.whereishere.com (http://www.whereishere.com)

Want proof?

Check THIS (http://whois.domaintools.com/whereishere.com) out!!! :blinkie:
Yep. MEDIA TEMPLE servers. :D

Totally inactive links in the site and looks to be not "in-game" but the fact that its on media temple's server makes me a happy Truffy :D

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!!! :blinkie:

[chaz]

Truff, I've been staring at the darn bar all day. I even looked thru a pair of binoculars from across the room and got nothing.

Now looking at it after your post it almost jumps out at you.

:Cheers: :Cheers: :Cheers: :Cheers: :Cheers: :Cheers:

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[truffula]

This pic sucks. I admit. But I've had a few beers, so cut me some slack for now, and I'll make a better one tomorrow ;)

The key was the spacing. Figuring out exactly how many letter characters could fit based on the sizes we could see (ie - w, h, and .com)

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/truffula/Webmaze%20Pics/Apollo%20Candy/whereishere.jpg


Again, please excuse my childlike MS Paint version of this, as no Photoshop do I have :p

[Murky Majare]

Sooo cool to have found it.

(and sooo lame that there isn't anything on it yet )

[NeillT006]

Truff:

It is entertaining watching you work, but I have a question.

Are you suggesting this Edward Hoot person is a "front" for the game?

If so I am dubious.

He is a real person, with a real history, none of which appears to tie to the entertainment industry.

N.

[LostEmissary]

HOLY CRAP!!!!
I think I found it!!! :D
The url on the Apollo bar!!!

www.whereishere.com (http://www.whereishere.com)

Want proof?

Check THIS (http://whois.domaintools.com/whereishere.com) out!!! :blinkie:
Yep. MEDIA TEMPLE servers. :D
The IP address reverses to http://saturation.com

Also hosted on the same server are:

1 BECHEK.COM. (http://whois.webhosting.info/BECHEK.COM.)
2 BOWNEINTERNETSOLUTIONS.COM. (http://whois.webhosting.info/BOWNEINTERNETSOLUTIONS.COM.)
3 HOUSEOFYOGA.NET. (http://whois.webhosting.info/HOUSEOFYOGA.NET.)
4 SATURATION.COM. (http://whois.webhosting.info/SATURATION.COM.)
5 THE-FULL-LIFE.COM. (http://whois.webhosting.info/THE-FULL-LIFE.COM.)
6 WHEREISHERE.COM. (http://whois.webhosting.info/WHEREISHERE.COM.)

At this point it seems unlikely to be in-game simply because it appears to be a sub-domain of an already established web presence - saturation.com. That could be to throw us off for now, but also it could be a coincidence. Guess we'll find out!

[ILoveEko]

I wondered if it was a way of them plugging some un-related site...

[Sayid's Twin]

I plan on being in philly on 9/9, and on a side note Pats cheesesteaks are way overratted. They are better than the steaks at most other places in the area, but i've been watching the quality of the food being served there go down for a few years now. Don't get me wrong, they ARE good, i just wouldn't build it up to what the "word of mouth" has built them up to.

10 years ago, there wasn't a better cheesesteak on the planet, its really a sad thing.

[jeffeff]

Bored, decided to go back to apollocandy.com. The pictures that are floated in on top of the candy bars have changed. On "The Beginning" page, the cake is now a strawberry shortcake-like thing. On "The Company" page, the hot air balloon is different. And on "The Apollo Bar" page, the melted chocolate is different.

I have no idea what this means/whether it means anything. Is it possible that "cake," "balloon," and "chocolate" need to be entered somewhere? I tried sublymonal.com, but I didn't get anything. It seems really strange to me that they would bother to replace those pictures with ones representing the same concepts, but slightly different.

Any thoughts?

Jeff Eff

[~G~]

http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/a04b73816d.jpg (http://www.uploadfile.info)

http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/fd419be86c.jpg (http://www.uploadfile.info)

http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/cfcd92af83.jpg (http://www.uploadfile.info)

Nice find, Jeff!! Now...does it mean anything....

ETA: I may be dense...what is the significance of 10/23/6? The expiration date on the bars.

[snakey]

Looks like that piece of chocolate is being pulled into a vortex, trippy.

[PandoraX]

LOL, I agree w/Neill, it is entertaining to watch truff in action. :)

If I'm understanding correctly, it is that the root server of whereishere.com is shared with other in-game sites, but that we believe it is a now inactive placeholder site for now? I sure hope so, because I'm sick of people guessing it is whereisalvarhanso.com

[chaz]

New UK Distribution Button.
Click on US Distribution and go back using the Apollo link. Front page now has UK Distribution Button. When hit it just says "loading......"

[LAN]

I dont know what I was worried about. They must be giving Apollo bars out in San Francisco....seeing as how san fran was THE BIRTHPLACE of the Apollo bar.

[truffula]

New UK Distribution Button.
Click on US Distribution and go back using the Apollo link. Front page now has UK Distribution Button. When hit it just says "loading......"

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/truffula/Webmaze%20Pics/Apollo%20Candy/untitled.jpg

I'm hoping this has something to do with the email I got from speaker yesterday about the Philly and Chicago dates still happening.....
I really hope so....

[mentalabc123]

New UK Distribution Button.
Click on US Distribution and go back using the Apollo link. Front page now has UK Distribution Button. When hit it just says "loading......"

Yay!! Actually, noooo, because I bet anything that they will give them away in the big cities like london and birmingham. Ok I could get to birmingham on a 1hr car journey but london is about a day away. And i'm not going on a stupid journey for 1 f**king chocolate bar!

[Dagolu]

ETA: I may be dense...what is the significance of 10/23/6? The expiration date on the bars.

I already posted a small theory here about the expiry date. to refresh memories, my idea was that the "expiry date" was actually the valinzetti equasion's answer. remember, the bar only says "enjoy before 10/23/06" no mention of expiration. hey if hanso can make ranch dip that doesn't go bad in months, why not a chocolate bar?

[jeffeff]

In regards to the above, I haven't seen this mentioned in this thread, but the Apollo Bar that Kate eats in "Adrift" has an expiration date of Oct. 23, 2004. Here's a screencap:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g28/jeffeff/bestifeatenby1023043.jpg

More fodder for theories that propose some kind of weird time shift is going on or that Lost is a fictionalization of the ARG. . .

Jeff Eff

ETA - to put the photo in the post.

[~G~]

In regards to the above, I haven't seen this mentioned in this thread, but the Apollo Bar that Kate eats in "Adrift" has an expiration date of Oct. 23, 2004. A good screencap of it is here:

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6862/337/1600/bestifeatenby1023043.0.jpg

More fodder for theories that propose some kind of weird time shift is going on. . .

Jeff Eff

Jeff, I am drawing a blank on that link.

ETA: THanks, Jeff!

[Dagolu]

oh... wait... if the crash was september 22 2004, and they had been on the island for 2 months, then kate was eating a chocolate bar that had been expired for 1 month... I'd eat it anyway too.

[~G~]

I FOUND THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING!! RLY!

http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/f68f220714.jpg (http://www.uploadfile.info)

/end t/j

[superdave651]

I just got this email:

RACHEL HERE.

JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW -- THEY'RE AFTER ME...

BUT, I'M STILL BREATHING.

I LISTENED TO DJ DAN. I FEEL YOUR SUPPORT. I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT IT MEANS TO ME.

YOU'RE DOING GREAT WORK WITH THE SRI LANKA VIDEO. KEEP GOING. FIND THE PIECES. PUT THEM TOGETHER AT WWW.HANSOEXPOSED.COM (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/WWW.HANSOEXPOSED.COM)

BUT THAT'S NOT WHY I'M WRITING.

THE REASON I'M WRITING IS TO TELL YOU... SOMETHING'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN. PAY ATTENTION. HEAD TO WWW.APOLLOCANDY.COM (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/WWW.APOLLOCANDY.COM)

TRUST ME.

THAT'S ALL FOR NOW.

[rvturnage]

I just got this email:

RACHEL HERE.

JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW -- THEY'RE AFTER ME...

BUT, I'M STILL BREATHING.

I LISTENED TO DJ DAN. I FEEL YOUR SUPPORT. I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT IT MEANS TO ME.

YOU'RE DOING GREAT WORK WITH THE SRI LANKA VIDEO. KEEP GOING. FIND THE PIECES. PUT THEM TOGETHER AT WWW.HANSOEXPOSED.COM (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/WWW.HANSOEXPOSED.COM)

BUT THAT'S NOT WHY I'M WRITING.

THE REASON I'M WRITING IS TO TELL YOU... SOMETHING'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN. PAY ATTENTION. HEAD TO WWW.APOLLOCANDY.COM (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/WWW.APOLLOCANDY.COM)

TRUST ME.

THAT'S ALL FOR NOW.


I got it too. I'm sure many more did...haven't been to apollocandy.com yet to see if anythings different. I'm betting it's just their way of getting the apollocandy.com url out there.

[superdave651]

It's been a while since I've been to the site, so I can't tell if anything's different there. Nothing is jumping out at me yet, though.

[duality]

So I noticed that the apollo candy company is a subsidiary of the hanso group, not the hanso foundation, so I put in www.thehansogroup.com (http://www.thehansogroup.com) and got the shutdown page. After searching some of the threads here, it seems that thehansogroup.com was the pre-TLE hanso site. My question is has thehansogroup.com pointers to thf.org for a while now, or is this something new?

[rvturnage]

It's been a while since I've been to the site, so I can't tell if anything's different there. Nothing is jumping out at me yet, though.

Me too. I don't see anything other than the new photos that were mentioned the other day.

[Selestina118]

Yeah, I haven't really been to the site since the last update with new release locations, but now it seems like you can pick which view you want to see of the bar on the main page (wrapped, semi-unwrapped, or broken). I'm not sure if that's new or not. Also, there is the UK Distribution button that was mentioned before. All I'm getting with that is Loading . . . though. :)

:Cheers:

[superdave651]

Has there always been a "UK distribution" badge on the Apollo site? It showed up when I reloaded the page. Now it's stuck on a "loading" screen.

[littlelabrynth]

it seems like you can pick which view you want to see of the bar on the main page (wrapped, semi-unwrapped, or broken). I'm not sure if that's new or not. Also, there is the UK Distribution button that was mentioned before. All I'm getting with that is Loading . . . though. :)

:Cheers:
It's been that way. I was able to slowly unwrap the candy bar last week. The new pictures and the UK Distribution button has been there for a few days...all it does currently is say "loading." As far as I can tell, and from comments on other sites, nothing has changed yet. Truff said something about a subdomain or mirrored website.
Could be a subdomain of either thelostexperience.com OR apollocandy.com where it shows up. Many are thinkin because "Grendel" reversed the logo for TLE.com on the mainpage that the subdomain would be a mirror of one of the two names, giving the following:
ecneirepxetsoleht.thelostexperience.com
-or-
ydnacollopa.apollocandy.com
He might be onto something...keep an eye out.

[Selestina118]

The UK Distribution button has been around for something like a week now. I think we've known about it longer though. It is stuck on loading . . . . too, for me.

ETA: The sub-domain name is a REALLY good idea, especially now with the e-mail from RB.

:Cheers:

[jeffeff]

UPDATE.

UK Distribution button now active.

Text as follows:

Back in 1964, when that very first, sinfully scrumptious Apollo Bar planted a 10,000-watt smile on J. Pickersweet's face, could M. David Benson have possibly imagined his brilliant confection would one day be available worldwide?

The Apollo Candy Company is proud to announce the Apollo Bar, the world's most delectable chocolate sensation, is now available, for the first time ever, in the UK!!!

How can I get one, you ask?

It's easy! We're giving them away! While supplies last, simply go to your nearest Forbidden Planet store (from Thurs 24th August) and say the daily code. Trust us! Your tummy will thank you.

Thursday's code is "Alvar Hanso".
Good eating, UK!!

[~G~]

Updated US distribution, also. All of the old dates are back!

[Richardstone]

I'm miles away from a Forbidden Planet I think, I'll have to check...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v115/Richardstone/ApolloUK.png

:)

[snakey]

I dont think ESPN was there before, so where is that, shat, I'll go if they would put up the times.
i'm on hold with them right now, lol! the woman she knows nothing about Lost or Apollo, but said ESPN is doing an event 5:30 to 11 there.

[~G~]

I wonder...will thf. become active again? I can't see why they would put a link, otherwise...especially on a "new" site.

[Zamboni]

Unless THF no longer really needs to keep up a public facade like that, because teh SPIDER protocol is about to go into effect and....they won't have to worry about the world peeking in on them anymore?

[truffula]

First off - RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!!
:blinkie: :blinkie: :blinkie: :blinkie: :blinkie: :blinkie:
YAYAYAYAYAY for the original dates returning!!! :hyper: :hyper:

Secondly, I just spent the last 45 minutes on this evil compy trying to make and upload a cap of the UK stuff....and I've been beaten, but you know what? I don't care - puttin the pic in here so I can feel that the last 45 minutes of my day weren't a totally wasted effort. :)

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/truffula/Webmaze%20Pics/uk.jpg

[HansoLow]

Wow, I sure have missed a lot today. That's what I get for sleeping late.

Anywho, it's been speculated that the web address that is hidden under the Apollo candybar wrapper is www.whereisalvar.com. I think it was determined that that domain was owned by the same people that own some of the other domains in th game (correct me if I'm wrong). However, that address has been blank...until now.

Now there is a password login.

Anyone have any clues as to what that could be? Or do you think that we going to get the password from one of the Apollo bar givaways?

[PandoraX]

Hansolow: whereisalvar is I think already foiled as a fake site....

I think truff found the real site earlier... could you remind him of it again?

So truff, what is the deal... the original US dates ARE in play? Plus they are adding UK sites now? I'm confused...

[cricer]

Good find HL! Now to discover the password...

[rvturnage]

I believe that the site Truff found and believes to be part of the experience is whereishere.com, although I can't recall the status of whereisalvar.com...I'm searching now and will edit this post...

rvt

PS Pan, good to see you still posting here from time to time. :)

[Selestina118]

Okay, I may be dense or something, but by the Philly date it says the place that the bars will be given out and Acura (In fact it says Acura by quite a few of the dates). What is this??

:Cheers:

[duality]

If you type in the following, I think you'll be convinced like I am that whereisalvar.com is in game:

http://www.whereisalvar.com:443

ETA: Or this link for that matter... http://test.whereisalvar.com

[truffula]

If you type in the following, I think you'll be convinced like I am that whereisalvar.com is in game:

http://www.whereisalvar.com:443

ETA: Or this link for that matter... http://test.whereisalvar.com
WOW!! :D
That sure looks like it :blinkie:
And I'll bet my bottom dollar that's the url on the Apollo Bar. :hyper:

Okay, I was wrong about whereishere.com, but at least I was close ;)

[rvturnage]

If you type in the following, I think you'll be convinced like I am that whereisalvar.com is in game:

http://www.whereisalvar.com:443

ETA: Or this link for that matter... http://test.whereisalvar.com

You are correct, Duality :)
in this post (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=889202&postcount=170) LostEmissary found that whereishere.com, which Truff thought was the URL from the candy bar, seems to be part of an established web presence, and not in game.

Truff did earlier say here (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=874031&postcount=86) that he doubted whereisalvar.com was in game due to the relatively recent date it was registered, but it certainly appears to be in game, although technically I think someone could set up those redirects to THF.org and persephone.thehansofoundation.org themselves.

Good find, Duality!

rvt

[cricer]

So, looks like we are actually on to something here. I'll start looking around for clues.

[HansoLow]

This is probably a question for the reverse-engineers, but does anyone think that there is a way to "find" the login info?

Or do you think that it's possible that they haven't put any content on that site yet?

[duality]

although technically I think someone could set up those redirects to THF.org and persephone.thehansofoundation.org themselves.


Without getting too technical, not really, because they are not redirects. The whereisalvar.com domain resolves to the same IP address as thf.org so it has to be that server which is serving up the login box. No real way to fake that.

The game developers have been requiring a login into the new sites before they go live, I would guess so that they can test them for a few days before the let everyone else in. This one will probably follow the same pattern.

[Dagolu]

yay! we found it! umm... so after we find alavar, I'd bet that we have to find carmen sandiego.

[PandoraX]

If you type in the following, I think you'll be convinced like I am that whereisalvar.com is in game:

http://www.whereisalvar.com:443

ETA: Or this link for that matter... http://test.whereisalvar.com

ETA: Oops, I C duality just answered my question about redirects...

[~G~]

Manny is online at his myspace account. I messaged him about the username/password, on the off chance he knows.

[PandoraX]

Ah-ha! I just figured out what the confusion was... at least for me.

I was confusing www.whereisalvar.com (http://www.whereisalvar.com) with http://www.whereisalvarhanso.com/ (which IS a known FAKE site).

whereisalvar.com looks legit...good work guys!

[Dagolu]

FINALLY A NEW SITE!

anyway, I'd bet that the site leads to a few glyphs.... so lets have a vote on weather the site will make us find the password or weather the site will open up immediately.

[Richardstone]

That's what we guessed it was first of all...

http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=872288&postcount=34

:)

[PandoraX]

This is probably totally insignificant, but I think the image of the birthday cake changed...

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f278/ceciliaxchen/Cake.jpg

Probably nothing, but...

[~G~]

This is probably totally insignificant, but I think the image of the birthday cake changed...

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f278/ceciliaxchen/Cake.jpg

Probably nothing, but...

Several changed a few days ago, and are recorded here, somewhere.

[chaz]

Okay, I may be dense or something, but by the Philly date it says the place that the bars will be given out and Acura (In fact it says Acura by quite a few of the dates). What is this??

:Cheers:


Any thoughts on this? It does say Acura on all the original dates.

[Richardstone]

I'm not sure what to make of the changes to the pictures, could the first ones have been placeholders?

I just have this scenario in my head...

Original design brief:- Apollo Chocolate Balloon...

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f140/kfozzie/apollo.jpg

Oh! you meant an Apollo Chocolate Balloon, sorry...

http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/fd419be86c.jpg

But all three changed, the cake, the balloon and the.... vortex thing, so it could be something...

[PandoraX]

Yeah, I see what you mean now... I remember the balloon change also. Maybe they are just trying to get more "high tech" and it's not significant?

[truffula]

Another insignificant change I just noticed.....the bar in the main page moves a little differently now. See below:

ORIGINAL

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/truffula/Webmaze%20Pics/Apollo%20Candy/mainpageA1.jpg


TODAY

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/truffula/Webmaze%20Pics/Apollo%20Candy/apollo-main2-new1.jpg


ORIGINAL
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/truffula/Webmaze%20Pics/Apollo%20Candy/mainpageB1.jpg


TODAY

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/truffula/Webmaze%20Pics/Apollo%20Candy/apollo-main3-new1.jpg


ETA - and now that we've figured out that the url is whereisalvar.com it sticks out so much more to me :p

[Dagolu]

yeah and the uk distribution

[jeffeff]

But all three changed, the cake, the balloon and the.... vortex thing, so it could be something...

You know, soon after I originally posted my finding about the picture changes, I thought the same thing. Something like. . .the guy at the design firm who was supposed to create the photos dropped the ball, and they were rushing to get the website up, so they just used some stock images until the real images were complete. If you'll all remember correctly, apollocandy.com went live days after it should have as it was (if we assume that it should have gone live in concordance with the release of the magazine).

Furthermore, all three images now do have an official connection to the site - the cake has the Apollo logo, so does the balloon, and the melting chocolate has a corner of the actual chocolate bar (you can see fragments of the letters on the piece of chocolate).

At this point, I'm thinking it's meaningless, beyond those who would like to complain about the ARG. (Not me!)

Jeff Eff

[Dagolu]

hey truff, on the second pic of the broken bar of chocolate, it seems that the word/url has changed. we are positive that the old one says whereisalavar but the second one looks like wu----

[LostEmissary]

Another insignificant change I just noticed.....the bar in the main page moves a little differently now. See below:That's not new Truff... I don't know what does it, or why it does it, but sometimes it will appear one way, and the others it will appear the "new" way. I noticed that there were two different angles the bar could appear at the very first time I was browsing around the site. The very first time I went there it was the "original" way, but after clicking around the site a bit, it was the "new" way/angle. Either way, it's not something that's been updated recently. Not that it's not necessarily significant in any way, but it's not something new.

[ozchick]

The following is on EW.com:

August 22, 2006

'Lost': Grab an Apollo bar

The third season of Lost is so close, you can practically taste it. In fact, you can taste it -- in the form of a complimentary Apollo bar. Below, find the complete press release from “The Apollo Candy Company, a subsidiary of The Hanso Group.” (We’ve redacted the contact phone number until we’re absolutely sure it’s part of the game.) Knowing what you now know, would you willingly bite into any air-dropped, Hatch-stored, Hanso-affiliated foodstuff?
Also, let’s begin a running tally of everyone who’s enjoyed the “out-of-this-world” taste of an Apollo: We can assume Hurley ate one (though I believe we only saw him eat one in a hallucination), and Kate devoured one in a long, very deliberate mini-sequence, shortly after the discovery of the Hatch. Are her horsey hallucinations somehow connected to Apollo consumption? Is the “out-of-this-world” thing a clue to an alien thread? (I sure hope not.) Also: Am I hungry? Yes. Not quite hungry enough to consume edible schwag, but certainly hungry enough to raid the breakroom Swiss Miss box. Back soon…
(See the complete release after the jump...)

August 21, 2006
COMING TO A GALAXY NEAR YOU: “APOLLO BAR,”
THE CHOCOLATE BAR THAT’S OUT OF THIS WORLD
Free Apollo Bars to Be Distributed for a Limited Time
In Select Locations Across the U.S., U.K., Australia And Asia
What once was lost, now is found… Apollo Bar, the scrumptious chocolate bar developed in the 1960s by M. David Benson, has been enjoyed by generations of consumers. For those who’ve yet to taste Mr. Benson’s bars, your opportunity to “discover what’s inside” awaits. Beginning Wednesday, August 23, free Apollo Bars will be distributed while supplies last in select locations throughout the United States, United Kingdom, Australia and Asia. The Apollo Bar is manufactured and distributed by the Apollo Candy Company, a subsidiary of The Hanso Group.
“Chocolate has been my life’s passion, and I am thrilled to be able to share my passion with people all over the world,” said Mr. Benson. “Once people taste my chocolate bar, I think they‘ll be hooked. I’d like to thank Mr. Alvar Hanso and the good folks at The Hanso Foundation for making this possible.”
Mr. Benson, founder of the “Apollo Candy Company,” distributed the first Apollo Bars in San Francisco, CA in 1964. The bars grew in popularity and were circulating across the United States by 1968 before the company fell into dire straits in the early seventies. However, due to the considerable financial intervention of Alvar Hanso, founder of the worldwide philanthropic organization, The Hanso Foundation, the company was saved from bankruptcy and infused with new life. Today, the Apollo Company is alive and well as the private purveyor of chocolates for Alvar Hanso and his many companies.
From August 23 through September, the Apollo Candy Company will distribute free Apollo Bars in cities throughout the U.S., including New York, Los Angeles, Washington DC, and Chicago. For a complete list of dates and locations where people can get their free Apollo bar, and for more information on the Apollo Candy Company, please visit our website at www.apollocandy.com (http://www.apollocandy.com).
For more information on The Hanso Foundation, please visit www.thehansofoundation.org. (http://www.thehansofoundation.org.)

Here's a direct link (http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2006/08/the_apollo_bar_.html#more).

[sculpey]

Has the word 'acura' always been included in some of the location listings? Sorry if it has...... I've been away for a bit.

[cricer]

Dag, it still looks like Wh to me...

[chaz]

No ACURA is new. It was added when the original dates were readded to the site.


Dag, it still looks like Wh to me...


Ditto

[Dagolu]

yeah I guess it is wh. (ditto copy machines smell bad)

[duality]

So the candy bars they start handing out tomorrow are going to say whereisalvar.com?

[Dagolu]

precicely! and perhaps the other side of the chocolate will have a glyph... probably not but I'd really like it to be that way

[chaz]

maybe the login and password for whereisalvar.com are the SKU# and eat by date?

[cricer]

So the candy bars they start handing out tomorrow are going to say whereisalvar.com?
That is the general consensus...it will be interesting to see if the candy bars give any more information?

[sculpey]

Well, should we be looking for another tie in with Acura? Anybody snooped around there yet? Maybe one of the candy bars will be a winner for a free car :)

[cricer]

What is acura? Link please?

[chaz]

What is acura? Link please?
It says acura on the original dates and cities that were re-added today on apollo.com

[sculpey]

http://www.acura.com/

[Dagolu]

maybe the login and password for whereisalvar.com are the SKU# and eat by date?
that would be cool. I haven't checked it (the bar on the website) but it would be great if it was that. hmmm.I wonder if the website on the bar on the web and the website on the bar on the real chocolate will be different...

also, sculpey, I think that it would be awesome if you edited the oceanic airlines logo onto the snakes on a plane plane

[cricer]

Simple enough, has it been used to find previous Glyphs, or is it new?

[blondiejam]

What is acura? Link please?


on apollocandy.com, some of the dates say "Acura" under them (the philly date on 9/9, for example).

as far as i know, acura is a car company from Japan... i don't know if it can possibly refer to anything else...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acura

[cricer]

Oh, right. Thanks! Now I remember, I have a goldfish with a better memory than mine. Well it does not give any mention of being affiliated with the Hanso Foundation, most GLYPH-related sites DO. So maybe we have just mislead ourselves, or there is an important clue on the site?
ETA: Or maybe you have to knock three times on the back right door of a black Acura at the location to get your chocolate bar?

[chaz]

Oh, right. Thanks! Now I remember, I have a goldfish with a better memory than mine. Well it does not give any mention of being affiliated with the Hanso Foundation, most GLYPH-related sites DO. So maybe we have just mislead ourselves, or there is an important clue on the site?
ETA: Or maybe you have to knock three times on the back right door of a black Acura at the location to get your chocolate bar?

Are you suggesting that apollo.com is not in-game?

[cricer]

Are you suggesting that apollo.com is not in-game?
No, that www.acura.com is not in-game.

[chaz]

If you go to Acura.com...Click on RDX...then click the RED area RDX Launch events......You will see that all the original dates mentioned coincide with RDX Launch Events

[cricer]

Hmm...very interesting...

[blondiejam]

If you go to Acura.com...Click on RDX...then click the RED area RDX Launch events......You will see that all the original dates mentioned coincide with RDX Launch Events


ewww... i don't wanna have to sit through a spiel about Acura's to get my Apollo bar! :pissed: