College Football

[Jason and the ARGonauts]

Most amazing game ever! I hate Notre Dame. Charlie Weis was mad at the end of that game!!!!:rollin

[Dallard]

That was a gogd ending. I am not a college ball fan of sorts. I lean more on the NFL side. BUT... that was an amazing finish! I mean the last 30 seconds was just nail bitting. I was mad at frist when @ 7 the game was still on. I was waiting for the Nascar race to come on and the game still had 10 minutes of gametime play left. So I was forced. But I'm glad I got to see it. What a game!

[LostInWilderness]

I hate Notre Dame too, but I found myself rooting for them. USC hasn't faced a physical team like that several years. It was a great football game.

[Brian]

Yeah, it was a good game. I was pulling for Notre Dame only because they beat Tennessee last year and I was hoping they'd do it again against USC. I'm just tired of hearing how great USC is. Whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know they're a good team, I just hate hearing it every day! :)

[Silver54321]

I live in Mishawaka, IN, which is right next door to NDU. It's literally about a 10-15 minute drive from my house.

I hate all sports. I hate ND even more. However, I was very excited to see ND fall to USC! I was almost brought to tears of joy when USC won.

If I were Harry Potter, I would have made a Godzilla-sized Nelson, from the Simpsons, magically appear, in the stadium, point his giant finger at the Golden Dome, and do his trademark: "hah-hah!"

[scottq74]

Personally, I like both Notre Dame and USC, and went to their game back in 1995 (right in the heart of the O.J. Simpson murder trial).

Great game, but I don't see how justice was served in the last ten seconds of the game. Matt Leinhart fumbles out of bounds. No time outs left? No problem. The referees put the ball right in the center of the field at the one foot line (never mind that the ball flew out at about the three yard line) and gave USC all the time in the world to run their final play.

I think if a team fumbles out of bounds in the last minute of the game, there needs to be some sort of penalty (either a five-yard delay of game penalty or a ten second runoff like in the NFL). But that isn't how the NCAA handles that type of situation, and USC escaped with a victory they probably didn't deserve.

[Worldsoldier]

ND shouldof won that game

[Pieces of Arzt]

What happened to that one USC player's leg? Did anyone else see that? Ouch.

[Charlie Pace]

yeah i played it for a second and died when i found the shoe in rhe tree... stupid game:rolleyes

[LostInWilderness]

I really expected the refs to call the running back who pushed the quarterback into the endzone. That guy should get a steak dinner. Either way though, it was a great game.

[Mysterious Mike]

College Football starts tonight with Boston College vs Central Michigan on ESPN2 at 6ET. The second game tonight is South Carolina vs Mississippi State on ESPN at 8ET.



Michigan and Michigan State are the two teams I follow the most and the Big Ten in general. I like USC this year even though the lost alot of players they have so many talented player stepping up I don't think there will be a ton of drop off. Notre Dame has a rather tough schedule but I think they have enough talent to play in the title game.

I hate the BCS and think its the stupidest system ever used in sports for anything. I could care less how a computer rates the teams let the PEOPLE pick the best teams.


Ohio State has a beating heading their way from the Maze and Blue.



USAT top 25 preseason poll
(http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/usatpoll.htm)

1. Ohio State
2. Texas
3. (tie) Notre Dame
3. (tie) Southern California
5. Oklahoma
6. Auburn
7. West Virginia
8. Florida
9. LSU
10. Florida State
11. Miami (Fla.)
12. California
13. Louisville
14. Georgia
15. Michigan
16. Virginia Tech
17. Iowa
18. Clemson
19. Penn State
20. Oregon
21. TCU
22. Nebraska
23. Tennessee
24. Alabama
25. Texas Tech



AP Top 25 (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/appoll.htm)

1 Ohio St.
2 Notre Dame
3 Texas
4 Auburn
5 West Virginia
6 Southern Cal
7 Florida
8 LSU
9 California
10 Oklahoma
11 Florida St.
12 Miami
13 Louisville
14 Michigan
15 Georgia
16 Iowa
17 Virginia Tech
18 Clemson
19 Penn St.
20 Nebraska
21 Oregon
22 TCU
23 Tennessee
24 Arizona St.
25 Texas Tech



This (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankingsindex) link from ESPN U has them compared side to side if that makes it easier.

[BubbleBoy13]

and dont forget for those in Kentucky, on sunday its the Kentucky Wildcats up against the Louisville Cardinals! i wonder who will win...;)

[RunLoganRun]

Michigan sucks ! The title game will be played early this year on 9-9-06 at 8 pm when Ohio State plays Texas. GO BUCKS !!!

[Mysterious Mike]

Ohio State = Overrated

[LPU]

and dont forget for those in Kentucky, on sunday its the Kentucky Wildcats up against the Louisville Cardinals! i wonder who will win...;)

Boy! You already know the answer to that question.

[Brian]

Oh my....my team's ranked 23 on both polls. I say that's a good thing....we'll find out Saturday I guess. :)

[marshall2u]

go blue! Michigan is due for some serious top rankings......

[MayBear]

I only have one thing to say about college football:

http://media.nebraska.tv/images/Husker+Football.jpg

[timbo910]

I am a big ND fan.... obviously.... Even though I live in Ann Arbor, I HATE Michigan with a passion. September 16th will be the Wolverines first loss of the year. It would be their second or third, but they always schedule MAC teams and scrubs before they play ND. Brady Quinn = Heisman.

After ND, I am a big Penn State and Michigan St. fan in that order. It will be tough on Septemeber 9th when PSU goes to South Bend, but I always root for ND. The only game of the year where I despise MSU is when they play ND, especially since they have been beating our ass recently.

[solat]

Go UNC?!?

Ehh... I get drug to the local PSU bar often. So after my alma matre, I've got to go with the Nittney Lions.

[Mysterious Mike]

Biggest games thie weekend are No.12 California vs No.23 Tennessee at 5:30pm ET on ESPN and No. 10 Flordia State at No. 11 Miami ( FLA.) at 8pm ET on ESPN.


We have three people who like teams I hate Nebraska , Notre Dame and Ohio State. This thread could get intresting.

http://www.trojanfb.com/imagedb/albums/userpics/thumb_NotreDame-Sucks-%5BConverted%5D.jpg

[LPU]

I like consistency in life. Good to know that UK football is aas bas as they always are.

[TheTempest]

I was at the U of O - Stanford game on Saturday.

[I Like Freckles]

Biggest games thie weekend are No.12 California vs No.23 Tennessee at 5:30pm ET on ESPN and No. 10 Flordia State at No. 11 Miami ( FLA.) at 8pm ET on ESPN.
I'm a Golden Bear (Cal Alum). Was not happy this weekend. Even less happy that I bet on the game while I was in Vegas. D'OH!

Freshman QB on the road with 100k+ screaming rednecks wearing orange is not a recipe for gambling success.

[Thomas Hobbes]

Go Blue! I'm a Michigan alum, and a 3L at Michigan State's Law School. I bleed Maize and Blue, and still have season tickets. I tell people I'm happy to have Michigan State to root for in basketball, because Michigan hasn't had a good team since we stopped paying our players. Everyone enjoy the season.

[Found in the Land of Lost]

I'm a Golden Bear (Cal Alum). Was not happy this weekend. Even less happy that I bet on the game while I was in Vegas. D'OH!

Freshman QB on the road with 100k+ screaming rednecks wearing orange is not a recipe for gambling success.


It was a sad sad day for the Bears on Saturday. It's so hard for the Pac-10 to ever get any respect and losses like this to a low ranked team negate years of hard work. It's a shame that we have to contend with such bias, but we do (i.e. Marshawn Lynch barely even being considered for the Heisman with such amazing stats under his belt and outstanding performance ever since he was a freshman.) The only way for this dramatic loss to not affect us terribly is for Tennessee to be undefeated this season.

:banghead:

[Mysterious Mike]

Cal looked horrible and the defense couldn't tackle an old women with a walker.

Michigan's pass game didn't look that great but they ran the ball well , Mike Hart had 31 carries for 146 yards , and their defense was good.


Michigan State barely beat Idaho and all around looked mediocre.


USC looked impressive considering how many players they lost and as much as I dislike Notre Dame their defense was great and stepped up and almost singlehandedly won their game.



Bush out for season (http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060903/SPORTS0102/60903031/1002)


Michael Bush of Louisville is out for the season with a broken leg which is too bad because watching that huge guy run people over was something I was looking forward too the rest of this season.


Just a reminder the Florida State vs Miami (Fla) game is on tonight at 8 PM ET , I forgot to add that this game was on Sunday night.

[Mysterious Mike]

Some huge games with National Title implications this weekend. No.1 Ohio State vs No. 2 Texas at 8PM ET on ESPN and No. 19 Penn State vs No. 5 Notre Dame 3:30 ET on NBC.


While Ohio State is one of my most hated teams I can't let that blind me to the fact that their offense will be too much for Texas especially minus starting CB Tarell Brown , who actually had the drug charges against him dropped today but he still faces gun charges. I don't know if Texas QB Colt McCoy has what it takes to beat Ohio State yet. State has alot of new starters on defense but they are quality players and they have a good coaching staff.


I am taking Notre Dame over Penn State because again State has a new QB and ND's defense is pretty good. I think it will come down to who establishes the run and special teams , if Penn State is going to win they have to make plays on special teams.

[juanbong]

Well, Notre Dame had a great day today. They played well and basically tore down Penn State. Tennessee had a good day as well.
Looking forward to the Texas/Ohio State game.

[boonian androphile]

I am visiting folks in State College. People are not drinking beer with all that much vigor. Maybe next week...:Cheers:

[LostInWilderness]

Ohio State Buckeyes

[boonian androphile]

Thanks for the tip LIW. Was too busy drinking with the dejected Nittany Lions.

[Mysterious Mike]

The game went as I expected. Ohio State just outclassed them on offense and the Texas QB Colt McCoy was overwhelmed. Troy Smith's mobility in the pocket seemed effortless.

[Mysterious Mike]

Penn State was terrible , they looked like Cal against Tennessee. Cal bounced back by beating Minnesota today.

Flordia State almost lost to Troy scoring to touchdowns late in the 4th quarter to pull it out. Their leading rusher had 19 yards.

[LostInWilderness]

My Bucs look like the tops of college football this year. I feel kind of dumb saying that after 2 weeks, but nobody looks like a competitor at this point.

[Mysterious Mike]

The Big Ten schedule is not easy and Iowa , Michigan State and Michigan all have returning QB's who are pretty good and will be better that Texas offensively.

[LostInWilderness]

Michigan, if it played 8th graders, would be tough. You can never discount either team in that rivalry. I think it's going to be a fun year.

[Mysterious Mike]

I hope they ruin Ohio State's season.




I almost forgot , GO BLUE



http://valuecarpetonline.com/michigan-dm.jpg

[vincentstuntdbl#23]

Hey LostInWilderness are you a fellow Ohio resident?

[marshall2u]

Go Blue!!!!!

[blue sunrise]

I hope they ruin Ohio State's season.




I almost forgot , GO BLUE



http://valuecarpetonline.com/michigan-dm.jpg

:yeah: There are lots of Michigan fans here!

I'm a little nervous for tomorrow's Notre Dame game. ND pretty much blasted Penn State. :scared:

[Mysterious Mike]

This could be the biggest weekend in college football all year with some GINORMUS games.

No.13 Michigan vs No.3 Notre Dame at 3:30 PM ET on NBC

No. 7 LSU vs NO. 4 Auburn at 3:30 PM ET on CBS

No. 11 Oklahoma vs No.18 Oregon at 3:30 PM ET on ABC

No. 15 Miami (Fla.) vs No.12 Louisville at 3:30 PM ET on ABC

No.22 Texas Tech vs No. 20 TCU at 5:30 PM ET on OLN or The Outdoor Living Network.

No.19 Nebraska vs No. 2 USC at 8 PM ET on ABC

No.6 Flordia vs No. 17 Tennessee at 8 PM ET on CBS





I am picking Michigan over Notre Dame , I think Michigan will control the ball with the run game and play good defense. Did I mention I hate Notre Dame.


I also think Oklahoma and Nebraska will go down in flames.

[LostInWilderness]

I hope they ruin Ohio State's season.
Both teams have done that to the other plenty of times.

I live in Dayton.

[minywheats]

Im from Lancaster OHIO and I say GO BUCKS!!!!

As much as the state up north sucks I hope they whip ND!!

GO BIGTEN!!

[LostInWilderness]

When Notre Dame plays that state up north, I just root for injuries. ;)

[LostInWilderness]

My Bucs rolled after a slow start. Even though I'm a UC alum, I was a Bucs football fan since I could walk. I'm a UC basketball fan though.

['Stoon]

my vatech hokies were tied with duke 0-0 early in the 1st quarter but the hokies ended up prevailing 36-0...whew *wipes forehead*

[blue sunrise]

When Notre Dame plays that state up north, I just root for injuries. ;)

2nd Quarter Update: Michigan 27, Notre Dame 7. That is all.

(yes, it is still early.)

[JustDucky]

2nd Quarter Update: Michigan 27, Notre Dame 7. That is all.

(yes, it is still early.)

Go Michigan!!! - Teaches Notre Dame for beating up on my Lions last week :)

[LostInWilderness]

Notre Dame couldn't beat the Lions. Michigan probably could though.

Oh, you didn't mean the Detroit Lions. Sorry.

[NeillT006]

Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeechigan.

Sorry.

I just had to do that.

N.
Class of '73

(or maybe it was '72 -- I forget, and there were, errr, refreshments)

[marshall2u]

Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeechigan.

Sorry.

I just had to do that.

N.
Class of '73

(or maybe it was '72 -- I forget, and there were, errr, refreshments):yeah:

:rockon::rockon::rockon:

[Mysterious Mike]

Michigan's defense is much improved over last years group. Their linebackers were great today and their defense as a whole was stout. Chad Henne really settled down after that horrible pick on the first possession and was very impressive after that. I think the Michigan advantage in size on the offensive line compared to the Notre Dame linemen really wore them down with the run.


Adrien Peterson is a man among boys and is basically a one man wrecking crew for Oklahoma.

[timbo910]

Mother Effer

[timbo910]

If Michigan loses next week to Wisconsin I will be sooooo pissed!!!

Michigan vs. Ohio St. both teams undeafeted at the end of the year playing for a National Championship bid. Anything less would be uncivilized.

[marshall2u]

OK, so where does this put MI in the rankings? And where does ND move to? I HATE college rankings.....grrrrrrrrrr

[blue sunrise]

edit: not a bye week after all!

Michigan v. Minnesota 12:00!!

Go Blue!

[Mysterious Mike]

edit: not a bye week after all!

Michigan v. Minnesota 12:00!!

Go Blue!


Its actually Michigan vs Wisconsin tomorrow




Michigan State will beat Brady Quinn and the rest of those crappy Irish.



Top games of the weekend


Wisconsin at No. 6 Michigan on ESPN at 12PM ET
Penn State at No. 1 Ohio State on ABC at 3:30 ET
No. 18 Arizona State at No. 20 Cal on FSN at 3:30 ET
No. 22 Alabama at Arkansas on CBS at 3:30 ET
No. 13 Notre Dame at Michigan State on ABC at 8 PM ET

[blue sunrise]

Its actually Michigan vs Wisconsin tomorrow
Heehee. I realized that after I logged off. Next time I'll wear my glasses when I look at the schedule. :rolleyez:

(Thanks, Mike. :) )

[Mysterious Mike]

Michigan and Ohio State both make through today unbeaten.




Mario Manningham is the man 7 catches for 133 yards and 2 TDs. Michigan held Wisconsin's P.J. Hill to 54 yards on 20 carries who was the Big Ten leading rusher at 138.3 yards per game.



Penn State's QB played like crap and Ohio State kicked their rears in the second half.



http://images.wndu.com/news/focusone/pics/pic_48404.jpg

[LostInWilderness]

Fortunately, the Bucs always get better as the year progresses. They had a scare today.

['Stoon]

woot! hokies win 29-13 over cincy

[Mysterious Mike]

Michigan State is coming out throwing haymakers , 3 plays TD.

[Donnie Darko]

GO DUCKS!

[RunLoganRun]

Michigan vs. Ohio St. both teams undeafeted at the end of the year playing for a National Championship bid. Anything less would be uncivilized.

Well, after today it sure looks like Michigan may be ranked #2 by mid-season. I agree that by the time OSU plays Michigan it might just be #1 vs. #2 - which would then be the second time that OSU has played #2 in the course of just one season. Go Bucks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[OMG its LFG]

Georgia was favored 27 over Colorado, and my mom picked Georgia. Not a good choice.

[Mysterious Mike]

What a choke job by Michigan State , their playcalling in the second half was terrible.

[OMG its LFG]

I like Michigan State, but they played not well.

[JustDucky]

I like Michigan State, but they played not well.


Yeah - I was enjoying the end of the Notre Dame season - but all fell apart in the 4th:(

[gertie]

I now fear for Neill's health.

Peace.

[blue sunrise]

I'm a huge Michigan fan, so I have a hard time picking a team to cheer for in a game like Notre Dame/Michigan State, but I actually felt bad for Michigan State last night. I was driving home from a party listening to the game on the radio, and when I arrived home it was 37-27 Michigan State. In the ten minutes it took me to get my kids inside and in bed the score became 40-37 Notre Dame. I didn't think I was reading the score correctly.

The game is an instant classic for sure.

[Mysterious Mike]

Michigan State is the same every year they have a good offense but their defense has trouble holding teams to 30 points.

[Mysterious Mike]

Weekends best matchups


No.1 Ohio State vs No. 15 Iowa at 8PM ET on ABC
Unranked but 4-0 Purdue vs No. 14 Notre Dame at 2:30 PM ET on NBC
No.6 Michigan vs Minnesota at 8PM ET on ESPN for The Little Brown Jug




I think Iowa will be a bigger test for Ohio State than Texas was. Drew Tate is a good QB and I think he will test the young Buckeye defense.

[marshall2u]

Weekends best matchups


No.1 Ohio State vs No. 15 Iowa at 8PM ET on ABC
Unranked but 4-0 Purdue vs No. 14 Notre Dame at 2:30 PM ET on NBC
No.6 Michigan vs Minnesota at 8PM ET on ESPN for The Little Brown Jug




I think Iowa will be a bigger test for Ohio State than Texas was. Drew Tate is a good QB and I think he will test the young Buckeye defense.

The Ohio/Iowa game should be a good one. I hope Ohio is beaten, since I'm a huge Michigan fan. It would sure mess with the rankings!

['Stoon]

mess with the rankings? pllllease...theyd still be a top 5 team because everyone watches espn and espn <3 theee ohio state....

[LostInWilderness]

What's not to love?

['Stoon]

see LIW is a espn watcher...hes being brainwashed...haha

[LostInWilderness]

I was brainwashed from birth.

['Stoon]

seeeeeeeee...

nah i really got nothing against ohiostate, just espn and the refs...

(i believe it was not pass interference in the fiesta bowl)

[LostInWilderness]

Oh, it was definitely pass interference. It had been pass interference earlier too, but it wasn't called then.

[Mysterious Mike]

So is James Laurinaitis' old man Animal of The Road Warriors fame ?


I guess we will see at halftime for sure.

[Mysterious Mike]

I couldn't wait


Yes he is Animal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_Warriors

Animal (real name Joseph Laurinaitis)

[LostInWilderness]

Did I mention the Buckeyes are number 1?

['Stoon]

yeah they beat iowa...i dont like most iowa fans...they make way to damn many excuses

[marshall2u]

Iowa has more than one fan???:rolleyez:

[marshall2u]

mess with the rankings? pllllease...theyd still be a top 5 team because everyone watches espn and espn <3 theee ohio state....

And I wouldn't see anything wrong with that since Iowa is a ranked team.
OMG, I can't beleive I'm arguing ANYTHING for Ohio State, being a Michigan fan!!:confused::confused:

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I don't sound off too much about my allegiances because I'm superstitious. The minute I start making noise, my team loses what was supposed to be an easy win. (one of the reasons I've been extremely silent about the Detroit Tigers this year)

I grew up on the Maize and Blue, in the years of Bo, Anthony Carter, Ricky Leach, Butch Woolfolk. I listened to Bob Ufer call the Meechigan games on the radio. I've been to about 1/2 a dozen games at the Big House, the last was the most heartbreaking, when Michael Westbrook caught the pass to cap a huge Colorado comeback. Stunned silence amid 110,000 people. I drank heavily that night.

I'm glad they're off to a hot start--they played well last night.

Curiously, I went to Purdue University so I've got an allegiance to the Boilers as well. Hand in hand with that comes a rabid dislike of all things Notre Dame. They always come up with the big play at the right time. I've never been a fan of Lou Holtz and had a lot of fun hating the Irish during the Davie/Willingham years because I was living in Southern Michigan and doing a lot of partying in the Mishiwaka/South Bend area...playing a lot of darts and being an Irish antogonist.

But, I don't know what it is. I like Charlie Weis as a coach. I'm gaining a respect for the team, probably partially due to the constant love-fest the Chicago papers give Weis. But don't get me wrong, I bleed Michigan Blue, so I was glad to see the whipping they gave the Irish last week. It was bittersweet to see the Irish get back on the horse at the expense of my Boilers. (too many dropped balls, Purdue. That could have been a game)

[blue sunrise]

Did I mention the Buckeyes are number 1?
I think November 18 is going to be a big, big day. :D

[LostInWilderness]

It's good to see the Wolverines playing well again.

Wait. Who am I kidding? No, it's not. ;)

[Mysterious Mike]

Some great games tomorrow.



No. 6 Michigan vs Michigan State ( 3-2 ) at 4:30 PM ET on ESPN

No. 7 LSU vs No. 5 Flordia at 3:30 PM ET on CBS

No.11 Oregon vs No. 17 California at 8 PM ET on ABC

No.14 Tennessee vs No. 9 Georgia at 7:45 ET on ESPN

No. 25 Missouri vs No. 24 Texas Tech at 7 PM ET on TBS

No. 7 Texas vs No. 13 Oklahoma at 3:30 PM ET on ABC

Washington (4 -1 ) vs No. 2 USC at 3:30 PM ET on FSN

Arkansas ( 3-1) vs No. 3 Auburn at 12 PM ET on CBS

No. 15 Clemson vs Wake Forest ( 5 - 0 ) at 12 PM ET on ESPN

[LostInWilderness]

Go Spartans!

[Mysterious Mike]

Some of the Buckeye players should hang out with some of the Bengals players this weekend and get arrested.

[LostInWilderness]

Maybe Tressel is promoting Maurice Clarett and the Bengals as role models.

['Stoon]

Some great games tomorrow.



No. 6 Michigan vs Michigan State ( 3-2 ) at 4:30 PM ET on ESPN

No.11 Oregon vs No. 17 California at 8 PM ET on ABC

No. 25 Missouri vs No. 24 Texas Tech at 7 PM ET on TBS

No. 7 Texas vs No. 13 Oklahoma at 3:30 PM ET on ABC



GO Michigan by 15
GO california by 5
GO mizzou...just win
GO Texas by 4

[Mysterious Mike]

http://valuecarpetonline.com/michigan-ar.jpg



Super Mario Manningham for Heismen

http://graphics.fansonly.com/testing/heisman/images/logo_trophy.jpg

['Stoon]

michigan looks real impressive

if michigan runs the table im thinking mario needs like 900+ yards 14+ tds to get invited...imho

[Lost Addict]

Dang. Im still a little upset MSU lost. 3 in a row. Well hopefully next year we beat Michigan. To bad that if we do win next year Stanton wont be there.

['Stoon]

and most likely john l smith wont be there...you would hope

[Mysterious Mike]

Go Spartans!

Yeah lets Go Spartans , take out those Powder Puff Buckeyes.



Mario Manningham will not play this week for Michigan vs Penn State due to knee surgery , they are hoping he can play next week.

[LostInWilderness]

Yeah lets Go Spartans , take out those Powder Puff Buckeyes.
Man, talk about taking quotes out of context! That was from last week. Bucs all the way this week (just like every week so far).

[LostInWilderness]

Ted Ginn is really fast.

[RunLoganRun]

Dang. Im still a little upset MSU lost. 3 in a row. Well hopefully next year we beat Michigan. To bad that if we do win next year Stanton wont be there.

Make that 4 in a row ! Buckeyes kicked some green butt today.

[LostInWilderness]

I think Tressel is holding the reins on the Buckeyes right now so they don't get too full of themselves. Among his other skills, Tressel knows how to manage a season and keep his team from getting overconfident.

[Mysterious Mike]

They really beat the hell out of Michigan State who has yet again fallen completely apart.

[LostInWilderness]

Yeah, MSU is really bad. They used to be better. I hope they get better. I prefer all Big 10 teams to be tough. Except Michigan.

[LostInWilderness]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2625961

Is this the cherry on the top of Larry Coker's pink slip?

[BubbleBoy13]

LSU: 49....KY: 0

and thats why i dont go for Kentuckys football team....

[Brian]

Is this the cherry on the top of Larry Coker's pink slip?

Most likely. That was completely ridiculous yesterday. He's obviously completely lost control of the team.

[Mysterious Mike]

Its time for MSU to fire John L. Smith. This is the 3rd year in a row that State has won most of the early games and looked good and then lost a game that looked like they would surely win which then lead to the team completely giving up and they finish under .500 for the season. They will never be able to compete in the Big Ten until they realize the need defensive recruits also.


Michigan has to be #2 in the BCS rankings.




Anyone see the BCS commercial where all the players are climbing ladders into the heavens trying to reach the BCS trophy and they are knocking each other off. I hate the BCS but this commercial was quite good I thought.


That brawl was pretty ugly , its time for Coker to go. Their offensive scheme has been fairly bad the past few years and they need major changes.




Adrian Peterson out for the rest of the regular season , that sucks. While I dislike Oklahoma Peterson is one of the best players to watch in College Football and I am kind of disappointed he won't be playing. Maybe the Lions can get him in the draft.

['Stoon]

bcs is just full of malarkey, i can't stand it

coker will either resign at the end of the season or be fired

only reason peterson would return next year is to win a heisman
and the lions are gonna have to compete with the packers, raiders and texans...for the adrian peterson/brady quinn sweepstakes

[Mysterious Mike]

These are the first BCS rankings

1. Ohio State
2. USC
3. Michigan
4. Auburn
5. West Virginia
6. Florida
7. Louisville
8. Notre Dame
9. Texas
10. California
11. Tennessee
12. Clemson
13. Arkansas
14. Oregon
15. Boise State
16. Rutgers
17. Nebraska
18. LSU
19. Georgia Tech
20. Boston College
21. Wisconsin
22. Oklahoma
23. Iowa
24. Missouri
25. Tulsa


Here (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankingsindex) is a link to the USAT poll and the AP poll.


Here (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/BCSStandings?week=1) is a link to the BCS formula and standings more in depth.





I hate the BCS and think its the worst thing in any sport pro or college. How the hell do the computers have USC #1 , they have played like crap so far and barely beat Arizona State on Saturday. Further more WHY THE HELL ARE COMPUTERS PICKING ANYWAY ? I could give a frack about who a computer thinks is the #1 team or how they rank any team. Michigan deserves to be #2 but they will win all their games coming into the Ohio State game they will be the #1 team when they beat them.

[Mysterious Mike]

Canes analyst Thomas fired for comments during brawl (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/BCSStandings?week=1)


MIAMI -- Former Miami player Lamar Thomas lost his TV analyst job Monday over comments he made during a sideline-clearing brawl involving the Hurricanes and Florida International.


Thomas made his comments as dozens of Miami and FIU players stormed the Orange Bowl field and fought during the third quarter of their teams' game Saturday night, an incident that led to the suspension of at least 31 players and forced officials from both schools to publicly apologize for the melee.


"Now, that's what I'm talking about," Thomas said as the brawl raged out of control. "You come into our house, you should get your behind kicked. You don't come into the OB playing that stuff. You're across the ocean over there. You're across the city. You can't come over to our place talking noise like that. You'll get your butt beat. I was about to go down the elevator to get in that thing."

As the fight slowed, Thomas' comments continued.

"I say, why don't they just meet outside in the tunnel after the ball game and get it on some more? You don't come into the OB, baby," Thomas said. "We've had a down couple years but you don't come in here talking smack. Not in our house."

[LostInWilderness]

Michigan deserves to be #2 but they will win all their games coming into the Ohio State game they will be the #1 team when they beat them.
Recent history says otherwise. I think it would be great if Michigan is #2 after Ohio State beats them, so we can beat them again for the national championship. That would make some history.

[boonian androphile]

When Michigan and Ohio State play, I will be rooting for a close game between two undefeated teams. Or I will root for Michigan just to be obstinent.:nanabobo:

[LostInWilderness]

I know how the Indians feel.

[marshall2u]

Michigan has to beat OH this year....it's their destiny, as Loche would say.

[LostInWilderness]

If Locke says Michigan will beat OSU, I'm going to increase my bet on OSU.

[Brian]

That's faith right there. :) I don't have a dog in this fight, but just because I'm tired of hearing how great OSU is, I hope Michigan kicks their butt. Not saying it's going to happen, but we can hope can't we? ;)

[marshall2u]

If Locke says Michigan will beat OSU, I'm going to increase my bet on OSU.

Crap! You're right....I shouldn't have said that.....jinx.

[Mysterious Mike]

Recent history says otherwise. I think it would be great if Michigan is #2 after Ohio State beats them, so we can beat them again for the national championship. That would make some history.


They only possible way that could happen is if USC and West Virgina both lose.


That would be totally sweet whoever won the first game.

[minywheats]

Go BUCKEYES, beat TSUN

if anyone is coming to the game, my wife and I are tailing gating and we can like hang out or something cool!!

['Stoon]

see what i think is gonna happen and totally f up the bcs scoring...is that the michigan and ohio state game is gonna coem down ot last play...so say a 2 pt win for ohiostate...then michigan drops to 6 or 7 in bcs...will never get a chance to play for natl champ and play in rosebowl against say cal...then the winner plays in nat'l champ game against say...west virginia...and not michigan and blows them out by 25...meanwhile michigan wins by like 25 also...and the end of season polls end up being 1. osu 2. michigan...

just my wild guess...and i hope its right cuz i want the bcs out...

[blue sunrise]

That's faith right there. :) I don't have a dog in this fight, but just because I'm tired of hearing how great OSU is, I hope Michigan kicks their butt. Not saying it's going to happen, but we can hope can't we? ;)

Traditionally, it's an all-bets off game anyway, but this year it's going to be crazy. OSU will definitely be undefeated going into the Michigan game, but their next four games are so cushy I'm hoping they'll be softened up a bit. Although, I guess Michigan has some cush in the coming month also (Ball State?!?).

OSU looked a little too tight this weekend for my taste. As in good tight. ;)

I have faith in my Wolverines. Go Blue!

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Traditionally, it's an all-bets off game anyway, but this year it's going to be crazy. OSU will definitely be undefeated going into the Michigan game, but their next four games are so cushy I'm hoping they'll be softened up a bit. Although, I guess Michigan has some cush in the coming month also (Ball State?!?).

OSU looked a little too tight this weekend for my taste. As in good tight. ;)

I have faith in my Wolverines. Go Blue!

Amen. GO BLUE!

[ILikeLostBrunettes]

I thought you wolverines wanted to can your coach? What happend?

[LostInWilderness]

Fair weather fans. They'll want to can him again after we beat them again. ;)

[blue sunrise]

I thought you wolverines wanted to can your coach? What happend?
A 5-4 season or whatever we had last year is going to get the boosters grumbling and/or calling for blood.

I didn't happen to be one of those fair-weather fans, myself. Lloyd Carr does about as good a job with them as anyone could. And I'm loving the addition of Ron English as the defensive coach. Michigan's defense has more attitude this year.

[ILikeLostBrunettes]

Boosters should only start grumbling after 2 losing seasons. Possible 3. Other than that, it's quite ridiculous. Everyone has an off year.

[blue sunrise]

I couldn't agree more.

[LostInWilderness]

Boosters should only start grumbling after 2 losing seasons. Possible 3. Other than that, it's quite ridiculous. Everyone has an off year.
Welcome to Ohio State / Michigan football. 5-4 is a firing offense. And repeatedly loosing to the other team is as well. That's what happened to Cooper despite how good his teams were year after year.

[Mysterious Mike]

Michigan was 7 - 5 last year counting the bowl game.


I think they addressed the problems they were having with the offense being predictable and the defense playing soft. Ron English is a great coach and has really made the difference to this point. Mike DeBord the offensive coordinator has really put some new wrinkles in that fit the personnel better and also has made a noticeable improvement.


I had doubts about Carr when he moved Lamar Woodley , maybe the most highly touted defensive recruit in Michigan history , to defensive end from linebacker. Woodley has since turned into one of the most feared pass rushers in the nation and could be a top ten pick in next years draft. Lloyd Carr will be the Michigan coach for years to come.


Carr's career record is 109-34.

Enough said.

[LostInWilderness]

I doubt Tressel ever ends up with 34 losses. ;)

[minywheats]

Tressel on average loses 2 games a season so far, so in 17 years he will hit Carrs mark...not to shabby that would also make him 14-3 vs TSUN if stats hold up, plus4 National Champs....I can take that

[LostInWilderness]

2 games a season? I didn't look at his record, but that surprises me. I was just teasing those Michigan fans anyway.

[Lost Addict]

MSU I cant belive they came back and one. They are my favorite college football team. What a comeback. Amazing. Stanton is a beast.

[RunLoganRun]

MSU I cant belive they came back and one. They are my favorite college football team. What a comeback. Amazing. Stanton is a beast.

How about that ? MSU was losing 38 to 3 and came back to win. Northwestern is now in the record books for the best all-time choke.

The Buckeyes kicked some Indiana butt 44 to 3 !! GO BUCKS !!!!!!!!

[I Like Freckles]

A whole bunch of the BCS Top-10 looked pretty shaky today.

Notre Dame beats UCLA on a last minute 45 yard TD after getting manhandled for most of the game.

Tennessee needs a late score to hold off 'Bama.

Cal makes 5 (yes 5) INTs against the Huskies and still needs OT to close out the game after allowing a 40 yard Flutie play at the end of regulation.

Even Michigan didn't look all that dominant at home vs. Iowa.

[Brian]

Tennessee needs a late score to hold off 'Bama.

Bama's TD was the first one scored in this rivalry in two years. The Tenn-Bama game is always a good one.

[I Like Freckles]

I have become a big Vols fan this year. The computers hate Cal's loss in week one a little less every week that Tennesse stays in the top-10. Same reason why I was hoping that UCLA could hold off the Irish today. Would have looked better when we (hopefully) slap the Bruins around in Berkeley in two weeks.

[I Like Freckles]

BTW, Clemson looks mighty sharp in their DarkBlueManGroup unis in big screen HD.

And the Yellowjackets look mighty paltry (not due to their uniforms).

[marshall2u]

They didn't play the MI game here today, but from what I've seen, they didn't look too good....wonder how that will influence the ratings.....hmmmm

[I Like Freckles]

they showed the UM game here (Southern California) on ABC INSTEAD of the Cal-UW game.

I was more than a bit pissed to discover that ABC's standard 12:30 pm Pac-10 game of the week has apparently gone the way of the dodo.


The Wolverines didn't look necessarily bad. Just kind of listless. Iowa hung around a lot more than i would have expected.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

This picture might explain why the Iowa coach was so hopping mad on Saturday.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a248/cadguru27/branchPayoff.jpg

GO BLUE!

['Stoon]

thats a pretty funny pic...i like, i like

[Mysterious Mike]

Michigan is a different team without Super Mario Manningham. They play more ball control and with Arrington being a very good possession receiver they let him move the chains and are willing to not make big mistakes. With Mannigham they can burn you anywhere on the field because he simply opens the field up more.



Some interesting stats learned during the Michigan game broadcast.

#1 in rushing defense in the nation , giving up 33 yards per game. Sacks count against rushing yardage in College Football but a great stat none the less.

#1 in time of possession in the nation.

#1 in giveaways in the nation with only 6 on the year.



This is the BCS top ten.


1 Ohio State
2 Michigan
3 USC
4 West Virginia
5 Auburn
6 Florida
7 Texas
8 Louisville
9 Notre Dame
10 California


Here (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/BCSStandings?week=2) are the BCS standings and formula in their entirety.

[I Like Freckles]

Towthings I find funny about the BCS standings (there are a lot more, but here's 2):

Cal ranked ahead of TN. Despite the fact that Cal's one loss was at the hands of... you guessed it.


Cal would be #5 overall (and first in line among the one-loss teams) if the computers were in charge. It amused me that both Cal and ND dropped in the USA-Today coaches poll while winning. Almost as much as USC dropping while not even playing.

Of course, I have had an ongoing hatred of the coaches poll ever since it jobbed the Golden Bears out of a first time in 40 years Rose Bowl berth in 2004.

['Stoon]

coaches poll? you mean the grad assistants poll?

[I Like Freckles]

I actually prefer to call it the retards poll. But whatever. :p

[solat]

In a move that isn't a suprise to anyone...

John Bunting, head coach at UNC, will be looking for a new job at the end of the season.

[Jinjur]

I know very little about college football, except that my city's team ROCKS!!! GO LONGHORNS!!!! WOOT!!!:iloveusig

[Mysterious Mike]

This thread got a lot better looking with the lovely Jinjure :heartpump popping in from the Greenhouse.


Texas is quite good and their QB is starting to mature and make some big plays. Their success will ultimately come down to how well their defense plays and if Colt McCoy continues to limit the turnovers.

[minywheats]

44-0 Ohio State over Minny......just 20 more days till THE GAME!!:bump:

[JustDucky]

44-0 Ohio State over Minny......just 20 more days till THE GAME!!:bump:

They should save that game for January - that is the true championship game now that USC lost - that was a shocker

[Mysterious Mike]

And down goes USC !


Its now a 2 horse race between Michigan and that other team.


Michigan State lost again and that should be the death warrant of John L. Smith.

[JustDucky]

And down goes USC !


Its now a 2 horse race between Michigan and that other team.


Michigan State lost again and that should be the death warrant of John L. Smith.


I am indifferent to who wins - but I do think Michigan is better

[LostInWilderness]

I am indifferent to who wins - but I do think Michigan is better
Have you been watching the games? My Bucs are a juggernaut. I really don't think Michigan will compete well against them this year.

[Mysterious Mike]

This is the best Michigan defense since the Charles Woodson team of 97.


They will have Manningham back for the Ohio State game , he makes a huge difference.

[JustDucky]

Have you been watching the games? My Bucs are a juggernaut. I really don't think Michigan will compete well against them this year.


I saw both of their games against Penn State - I was very impressed with Michigan's defense.

I think it will be a close game - it is just a shame - it can't be saved for January

['Stoon]

that is why the bcs is messed up... supposed to make the 2 best teams in the country play each other for the championship...IF the 2 best teams are from different confs and dont play during the year

i just wish they'd go back to the poll system so what if its biased...its our nature

[minywheats]

Can you tell me what makes you think TSUN so much better?

tOSU Points Per Game 35.9
TSUN Points Per Game 28.3

tOSU Yards Per Game 418.3
TSUN Yards Per Game 357.7

tOSU Points Allowed Per Game 7.3
TSUN Points Allowed Per Game 11.6

tOSU Yards Allowed Per Game 261.0
TSUN Yards Allowed Per Game 253.3

tOSU Turnover Margin +11
TSUN Turnover Margin +12

So like I said why is TSUN so much better than the Buckeyes?
the Buckeyes give up a total of 8 extra yards a game but score an extra touchdown and hold a team to a field goal less

I can post Rushing defense and Passing Defense if you want, TSUN kills tOSU in rushing D but tOSU kills TSUN in passing D

[Mysterious Mike]

What does TSUN stand for ?

[minywheats]

THE SCHOOL UP NORTH

old Woody Hayes saying

[Mysterious Mike]

I don't think Michigan is way ahead of Ohio State on the contrary they seem fairly evenly matched. I may dislike Ohio State but I don't deny that they have a good team.


Michigan has the ability to make teams one dimensional on defense , controls the ball and doesn't turn it over very often which is a great formula for winning. I also think the offensive stats maybe somewhat misleading because Michigan has played without their best receiver in Mannigham for a few games.


I think OSU has the edge on offense but Michigan has the edge on defense. I am pretty sure it will be a pick em situation.

[minywheats]

Here is the best break down I can do for ya'll!!

Now, I know this will come to a shock to Michigan fans. Am I saying that Ohio State's defense is better than Michigan's? No. I am saying that OSU's defense is just as good. Many people don't even bother to look at statistics or break down the units. They just listen to the media machine that is ESPN (which I can't stand). So, let's take a look at the statistics.

Third Down Effinciency- A big statistic for me is how well your defense can get stop the other team on third down. Ohio State stops their opponents 70% of the time, Michigan stops their opponents 74% of the time. As you can see, this is a very close margin.

Scoring Defense- Ohio State ranks 1st in scoring defense, giving up 7.33 points per game. Michigan ranks 4th, giving up 11.56 points per game. Now, if you take a closer look at some of the points OSU has given up, you will be amazed. The touchdown Texas got was after one of the worst Roughing-the-Passer calls of all time. The 3 points Indiana got were after OSU fumbled the ball on their own 20. Indiana went 3 and out, then kicked a field goal. The 7 that Sparty scored came against the 2006 OSU recruiting class with 2 minutes to go in the 4th quarter. Basically, Ohio State's first string unit hasn't given up a single point in 3 games. Ohio State has given up 545 yards---in the past 3 games. That's a shutdown defense folks. Just to point something out, UM gave up a combined 635 yards to MSU and Minnesota alone (OSU's last 3 games- IU, Minny, MSU...Basically, UM gave up 90 more yards to 2 of those 3 than against all of them combined).

Rushing Defense- Ohio State is 18th in rushing defense, giving up 91 yards per game. Michigan ranks 1st in rushing defense, giving up only 28 yards per game. But, those numbers for OSU are mainly because of the slow start for this unit at the beginning of the season. Michigan started the season on all cylindars and has been all year, OSU has not. OSU just gave up 47 rushing yards to Minnesota, that same Minnesota team that ran for over 100 yards against Michigan earlier in the year. The average yards OSU has given up drops about 4 spots in the rankings every week. By the time the Michigan game comes around, we will be in the top 12.

Passing Defense- Ohio State ranks 33rd nationally against the pass, giving up 169 yards per game. Michigan ranks 75th, giving up 207 yards per game. These numbers are greatly skewed because of both team's ability to shut down the run and force the other team to pass; and, both teams getting comfortable leads, making the other team one-dimensional. With the emergence of Antonio Smith as a playmaker and shutdown corner, OSU's secondary is scary good. There is so much depth in the secondary that it is disgusting. Michigan, aside from the incredible Leon Hall (by the own admittance of the UM faithful), is not set in the secondary position.
Michigan State passed for 120 more yards against UM than against OSU.
Penn State passed for 100 more yards against UM than against OSU.
Minnesota passed for 80 more yards against UM than against OSU.
The Michigan secondary lacks the depth and the overall talent that the OSU secondary unit has.

Playmaking- Let's not bring out the Turnover Margin ranking because that obviously accounts for the offense's mistakes. We are talking about defense. Both of these units have forced 20 turnovers this year. Michigan has forced 11 fumbles (Wow! That's more than one fumble recovery per game, very impressive), Ohio State has forced 2. Michigan has 9 interceptions, Ohio State has 18 (Wow! That's 2 interceptions per game, very impressive). That is triple of what OSU had last year. Both of these teams have forced 20 turnovers in 9 games, an amazing statistic.

Now, everybody gives Michigan credit for their incredible D-Line and pressure on the quarterback. UM has 32 sacks this year, ranking 4th in the nation. Guess how many OSU has? 30. OSU is right behind them, coming in at 7th. Both of these teams can get to the quarterback.

Also, let's take a look at tackles for loss. Ohio State has 72 tackles for loss this year, ranking 8th in the country. Michigan has 70, ranking 12th. Ohio State can get to the ball in the backfield my friends.

Many UM fans point to the ND game as the defining point of their year. I have heard many of them with the logic: "We shut down ND --> OSU's offense isn't that much better than ND's --> we can shut down/slow down Ohio State". The reason they shut down the Irish was because of the incredible pressure they put on Brady Quinn. I am not taking away from that victory, but Notre Dame's offensive line is a joke. Comparing their O-Line to OSU's O-Line is like comparing UM's program to MSU's (Not even close haha). UCLA got the same kind of pressure against ND all day. For those who watched the ND vs UCLA game, you know what I mean. Quinn was pressured all day and didn't get anything going until Jesus himself stepped on the field and saved them from a loss (Sorry, had to get my ND rip in). Michigan will pressure Smith in 3 weeks, but not like they did against Quinn.

Now, let's take a look at the players themselves. Both of these defenses have outstanding talent and both are top notch defenses.

Defensive Line- Everybody just throws this one to Michigan's side and thinks that UM's defensive line a ton better than OSU's. Is Ohio State's defensive line better than UM's? No. However, they are much closer than the media and many fans give them credit for. Alan Branch and Lamarr Woodley are studs. Quinn Pitcock is also a stud. He will join one of those 2 on the All America team (Both of those UM guys deserve to be there, but they rarely put two guys from one unit on the 1st team AA). Vernon Gholston is an absolute monster. For those of you who watched the Iowa game, you saw what I mean when he took down their RB with one arm (http://youtube.com/watch?v=0AyWLtterFA). Richardson, Patterson, and and Penton round out a very good OSU line. However, the edge is to Michigan.
UM D-Line- 10
OSU D-Line- 9

Linebackers- This is a push. Ohio State and Michigan have outstanding playmakers at the linebacker position. Laurinitis is an absolute playmaker. He is the only one of the linebackers that gets as much publicity as they should, and it is well deserved. He had a string of 4 straight games with an interception. However, Marcus Freeman is an absolute monster. Did anybody see that play he made against Michigan State on the screen? Or the ball that was thrown by Tate as hard as he could and Freeman tipped it to himself to get the interception? Freeman is a beast. For Michigan, the equivelant to Laurinitis is Prescott Burgess. He is a great playmaker and has the ability to turn a routine sack (if there is such a thing) into a forced fumble. The equivelant of Marcus Freeman for Michigan is David Harris. He continues to impress me week after week. He leads the Maize & Blue team by 15 in tackles. What I like most about him is the fact that he doesn't showboat. He is out there to play the game, not boost his image. Both of these units have great playmakers, and great depth. This is a push.
UM Linebackers- 8.5
OSU Linebackers- 8.5

Secondary- Michigan has forced a respectable 9 interceptions. The big difference between these units is depth. Leon Hall is an absolute beast, but there is really nobody to back him up. Morgan Trent has been shaky all year, many Michigan fans don't even want him in the starting lineup anymore. Jamar Adams and Brandent Engleman have been steadily consistent at the safety postion all year long, but don't really make the big plays that OSU's safeties do. OSU has 18 interceptions this year, tied for 1st in the country with Cal. For those of you who have watched this unit all year, you know that we could easily have 5 or 6 more if it weren't for horrible drops. They have incredible depth at the corner and safety position. Jemario O'Neal has adjusted tremendously to the safety position after the loss of Anderson Rusell. Brandon Mitchell has been a solid safety all year long. The emergence of Antonio Smith as a playmaker and shutdown corner has been great to watch this year. A walk-on from Columbus turns his senior year into an incredible success. Also, Malcom Jenkins has played great at the other corner all year. Every time the opponent drops back to pass, I expect a play to be made. These guys are terrific. OSU has the clear edge here.
UM Secondary- 8
OSU Secondary- 9



Well, there you have it. At the start of the year, Michigan clearly had the edge over Ohio State. There is no doubt about that. Now, the 'Silver Bullets' have gelled into one of the best defenses in the country. By the time they meet in 3 weeks, Ohio State and Michigan will both be recognized as 2 of the best defenses in the country. Michigan has a little bit of a better d-line than Ohio State's, the linebackers are a push, and Ohio State has a clear edge in the secondary. Ohio State has just as good of a defense as Michigan's.

[LostInWilderness]

I think OSU has the edge on offense but Michigan has the edge on defense. I am pretty sure it will be a pick em situation.
We're up 11 points in point differential. I imagine we'll win by about that.

[Mysterious Mike]

We're up 11 points in point differential. I imagine we'll win by about that.



You have quite the imagination

[RunLoganRun]

Michigan State lost again and that should be the death warrant of John L. Smith.

Na Na Na Na - Na Na Na Na - hey hey hey - GOOD-BYE !

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6125310?FSO1&ATT=HMA

[ILikeLostBrunettes]

Wow... what happened to WVU? I guess that's what you get for playing cupcakes. Although UL's schedule doesn't seem as hard as it did before the season.

[LostInWilderness]

I forgot what everybody was saying about the great Michigan defense. Can anybody refresh my memory?

[ILikeLostBrunettes]

I'm too psyched about going back to work and looking at all the Alabama fans in the face. That is, if they show up to work.

[marshall2u]

I did not see the game, but after looking at the score, MI didn't seem to dominate a no name in any way...Hmmmm

Looking at Ohio St's game they aren't totally dominating either...14-0. Are they sitting some players?

[Mysterious Mike]

Michigan almost got caught looking past Ball State. This game was thought to be so meaningless it wasn't even on TV.


Still they held Ball State to 45 yards rushing.

[LostInWilderness]

The Bucs have won so easily this season, after they got up 17-0, they became complacent. This is a good time to have it happen. It won't happen again this season.

I just think Michigan's pass defense isn't very good, and Ball State exploited it. Troy Smith is going to have fun.

[RunLoganRun]

And another one bites the dust ! Rutgers upsets Louisville - and they had to overcome an 18 point deficit to win the game. Only 4 unbeaten teams are left standing - and who predicted that OSU and Michigan would be 1 and 2 at this point in the season ? Yes, twas me...

[Mysterious Mike]

I have been meaning to bring up the Rutgers game.


I thought for sure they were going to lose after the first half they had but wow did they put the clamps on Louisville in the second half. I thought Louisville should have ran the ball more but I came away impressed by Rutgers.

[sals]

I have been meaning to bring up the Rutgers game.


I thought for sure they were going to lose after the first half they had but wow did they put the clamps on Louisville in the second half. I thought Louisville should have ran the ball more but I came away impressed by Rutgers.

Great game Mike. And the excitement in this area is fun for a change.

But you're pronouncing the school's name wrong.

It's Rukerz. About an hour north of Tre-in.


Sals

[eldirion]

RU RAH RAH!! RU RAH RAH!!!!

R!!!!.....U!!!!!!....R!!!!!.....U!!!!


:D



*My campus was swarmed with thousands of fans after the game. Cars were honking and cheers until at least 2 in the morning.

[Mysterious Mike]

The stage is set.


Michigan and Ohio State crushed their opponents today.

[LostInWilderness]

I just hope Michigan puts up a decent fight.

Who am I kidding? No I don't. ;)

[Brian]

That game should be really good. I'm still hoping Michigan can pull off the upset somehow.......nothing wrong with hoping, right? ;)

[everlost]

Can you say Kansas State vs. Texas... Holy Shnikes!!!

['Stoon]

yeah somehow kstate looks like theyve won themselves a crazy game ginst texas

[blue sunrise]

I have a question for the football gurus:

Are the chances pretty good that Michigan and Ohio State will play each other in the National Championship game? Or does it have to be some magical set of circumstances?

(btw, LiW, you better leave your motion-sensor lights on this week or I'm going to TP your house in maize-and-blue streamers... :D)

*coughGoBluecough*

[I Like Freckles]

It's almost impossible that Ohio State and UM will play each other in the national championship game. As ridiculous as it seems, if USC wins out, they will play the Michigan-OSU winner. It's good to be #3 when #1 and #2 still have to play each other in the regular season.

I can't believe that Cal lost in the desert this past weekend. If they hadn't, next week's game at the Coliseum could very well have been a showdown for the #2 slot in the title game.

[blue sunrise]

Thanks, ILF!

That makes sense, but the Ann Arbor station I had on this morning was making it sound like a fairly good possibility. I needed a second opinion. :)

[Warthawg1]

Rutgers will probably lose to West Virginia, but what if they win out?

My issue with the BCS is that a team like Rutgers who plays in a BCS conference can go undefeated and be one of only two undefeated teams in the country, yet still not be chosen for the title game. If the Big East is a BCS conference, and can produce an undefeated, untied team; then why is it virtually impossible for them to make the championship game?

Yes, yes.. I know about their weak schedule and blah, blah, freakin blah.. but still. The Big East is a BCS conference. Maybe that's the issue, but the fact is that it IS. Rutgers defeated the number 3 team in the country (Louisville), and if they can get past W. Virginia, that's another victory over a top 10 school (who by the way defeated the SEC champ in their bowl game last year).

Like I noted, I think they will falter against the Mountaineers, but still.. it's pretty much already been decided that there is nothing they can do to make the championship game. If that's the case, then why is the Big East even considered a BCS conference?

[ILikeLostBrunettes]

The new "it" phrase: Style Points

My question: Who gets to to decide was is stylist or not?

[timbo910]

The argument against Rutgers is that they are not one of the top 6 teams in the country. On a neutral field, they would be two score underdogs against UofM, OSU, USC, Fla, and ND. I value Florida surviving a VERY tough SEC schedule with one lose more than Rutgers going undefeated in the Big East.

So, what is everyone's prediction of the Championship game? I would prefer UofM v. ND, just because we need to revenge that horrendous early season loss. The only teams I hate more than UofM are OSU and USC, so I'll be rooting for the wolverines this weekend, and then I will take twenty showers and go to confession on Sunday.

War Florida losing and ND winning out.

[Warthawg1]

The argument against Rutgers is that they are not one of the top 6 teams in the country. On a neutral field, they would be two score underdogs against UofM, OSU, USC, Fla, and ND. I value Florida surviving a VERY tough SEC schedule with one lose more than Rutgers going undefeated in the Big East.

I understand that, but then why is the Big East even a BCS conference? That's the point I'm making. To say they are a BCS conference, yet winning it while also being one of only two undefeated teams in the country can't get you in the championship game leads back to that question.

By the way.. UGA was a two score underdog to Auburn this past weekend. ;)

Result UGA 37 - Auburn 15

[LostInWilderness]

I have a question for the football gurus:

Are the chances pretty good that Michigan and Ohio State will play each other in the National Championship game? Or does it have to be some magical set of circumstances?

(btw, LiW, you better leave your motion-sensor lights on this week or I'm going to TP your house in maize-and-blue streamers... :D)
I'll leave the dogs out. The little one's scarlett and the bigger one's grey.

It would have to be an incredibly close game for OSU and Michigan to remain 1 and 2 after Saturday, but it's possible.

Rutgers will probably lose to West Virginia, but what if they win out?

My issue with the BCS is that a team like Rutgers who plays in a BCS conference can go undefeated and be one of only two undefeated teams in the country, yet still not be chosen for the title game.
Because of the formula. If the polls ranked them higher, and the computer formulas ranked them higher, they'd be higher. It isn't about being in a BCS conference or not - it's just a stupid formula.

[Warthawg1]

Because of the formula. If the polls ranked them higher, and the computer formulas ranked them higher, they'd be higher. It isn't about being in a BCS conference or not - it's just a stupid formula.

Exactly what I've been saying, albeit with a bit of misdirection. It's ludicrous, and my Rutgers/Big East example is just an obvious example as to why

[Mysterious Mike]

it's just a stupid formula



AMEN


Its a total frickin joke

[Warthawg1]

My wish right now is for the OSU/Michigan winner to get beat in the championship game, and to have both Boise and Rutgers go undefeated.

[ILikeLostBrunettes]

I'd want Florida in the Championship game, but I'm scared by their lack of PATs and FGs. I don't want the SEC embarassed by not being able to kick an extra point.

[Mysterious Mike]

I hope every year there will be numerous undefeated teams just so it will frack evrything up and maybe just maybe the people who made up this current system will get their collective heads out of thier asses.

[Warthawg1]

I can think of little I want to see less than OSU/Mich vs USC in the national title game. Florida vs OSU/Mich is okay by me under the circumstances.

My main wish however is to buy a "Rutgers Scarlet Knights: Uncrowned National Champs '07" sweatshirt.

[ILikeLostBrunettes]

Warty, since the AP is no longer cooperating, you might actually get that chance. They crown their own, these days.

[eldirion]

I'm just going to throw another GO RU!!!! out there for good luck.

[TheBigCat]

My wish right now is for the OSU/Michigan winner to get beat in the championship game, and to have both Boise and Rutgers go undefeated.


That would be great.

By the way, I notice that the pollsters are refusing to rank BSU any higher than 13th. Obvious attempt to keep them from finishing 12th or heigher and getting a BCS Bowl.

[LostInWilderness]

My wish right now is for the OSU/Michigan winner to get beat in the championship game, and to have both Boise and Rutgers go undefeated.
Bite your tongue! (Unless Michigan gets lucky and beats us.)

If you were talking about Miami and some other pretender southern school, I'd agree. ;) Something like that might accelerate the replacement of the BCS with a playoff.

[TheBigCat]

Something Ihave wanted for a few years now is a small BCS play-off. It would only add three games. Here's the rundown:

Eight BCS slots.

The champs of the 5 top conferences are automatically in, these being the ACC, the SEC, the Big Ten, the Big 12, and the Pac 10. The reason for this is that these conferences are so deep with strong programs that going undefeated in any of them is a tall order. For instance, who dealt Southern Cal their only loss so far this season? A Washington State team that is going to have to beat Washington this Saturday and then pray for help elsewhere in order to get a bowl berth.

For the remaining three spots there would be a priority system in place with strength of schedule being the tie-breaker.

First priority goes to any other undefeated teams.

Second priority goes to once-defeated teams in the above mentioned conferences.

Third priority goes to any other once-defeated teams.

The eight BCS teams having been chosen, the go into 4 bowl games on New Years Day with the Pac-10 and Big Ten champions meeting in the Rose Bowl as per tradition and the other 3 games decided by drawing in Bowls chosen from the traditional elite list (Sugar, Orange, Fiesta, Cotton, etc.) on a rotating basis. On the Saturday between 5 and 11 days later (Jan 6 - 12) depending on the calendar the winners of these four games meet for the semi-finals according to lot in preselected NFL stadia. The following Saturday the winners of the semi-finals meet in the NCAA Division 1-A Championship Game played in a pre-chosen NFL stadium.

No fuss, no muss, no polls, no computers, no room for complaining.

[timbo910]

For instance, who dealt Southern Cal their only loss so far this season? A Washington State team that is going to have to beat Washington this Saturday and then pray for help elsewhere in order to get a bowl berth.

USC lost to Oregon State. They barely beat WSU.

[minywheats]

I cant wait for tOSU or even TSUn to completely destroy whatever team they play in the National Championship....Florida?? hahahah joke, USC joke, who else, Rutgers, (im so pumped the are 10-0) but joke. Man the national championship is being played on November 18th this year, get over it

['Stoon]

sorry, thought this was funny...

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[minywheats]

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of course I guess a website about a show on tv isnt any better is it?

[PrincessDana]

Yay, Rutgers!
R U HOO RAH
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HOO RAH HOO RAH
RUTGERS-RAH!
RED TEAM, UPSTREAM
UPSTREAM, RED TEAM
R
U
RUTGERS
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[TheBigCat]

USC lost to Oregon State. They barely beat WSU.

My bad. Thank you.

[Mysterious Mike]

Ex-Michigan coach Bo Schembechler dies (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/college/4343158.html)


ANN ARBOR, Mich. — Bo Schembechler, who became one of college football's great coaches in two decades at Michigan, died Friday after taping a TV show on the eve of the Wolverines' No. 1 vs. No. 2 showdown with perennial rival Ohio State. He was 77.

Schembechler collapsed at the studios at WXYZ-TV in the Detroit suburb of Southfield and was taken by ambulance to a nearby hospital. His death at 11:42 a.m. was confirmed by Mike Dowd, chief investigator for the medical examiner's office in Oakland County.




R.I.P Bo


http://images.dawgsports.com/images/admin/Schembechler.jpg

['Stoon]

that is just bad news

[minywheats]

well what did I say? BUCKEYES FOR THE WIN!!!

and Rutgers goes down, just tOSU and Boise St undefeated now. Who else wants some?

[Mysterious Mike]

BCS Standings - November 19, 2006
(http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/BCSStandings)




If USC beat Notre Dame I think they will leap Michigan. I just can't make myself root for Notre Dame though.

[Brian]

Saw this one coming a long time ago...........

Coker fired by Miami after .500 season (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2674282)

Miami fired football coach Larry Coker on Friday, a day after the Hurricanes beat No. 18 Boston College 17-14 to salvage a 6-6 season to become eligible to play in a postseason bowl game.

Coker was informed of the decision by athletics director Paul Dee early Friday. Coker has three years remaining on a contract that pays him nearly $2 million annually, and the school will owe him between $2.4 million and $3 million in a buyout.

"The university has made a decision to change head coaches for our football program," Dee said at a news conference.

If Miami is invited to a bowl game, Coker will coach the team.

"I'd like to certainly end on a positive note," Coker said.

Coker, 58, won more games in his first six seasons than any other Hurricanes coach except Dennis Erickson, and he has won more games since 2001 than all but five Division I-A coaches.

Coker had a 59-15 record, a winning percentage of nearly 80 percent, and won a national championship in 2001 and played for another title the following season.

"There were a lot of issues, but certainly the direction the program was going was certainly one," Dee said. "I wouldn't say that was totally it, but if you want to look in that direction, that was one. There were disappointments. There were opportunities, I think, to play better and we didn't. It all comes to the head coach."

There are plenty of potential candidates to replace Coker, including former Wisconsin coach Barry Alvarez, who is close with Miami president Donna Shalala; Rutgers coach and former Miami assistant Greg Schiano; and Tulsa coach Steve Kragthorpe.

Schiano has been targeted by several of Miami's influential boosters as the top choice to replace deposed coach Larry Coker, a school official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, told ESPN.com's Mark Schlabach on Friday.

Dee said the university will hire a coach as quickly as possible, and that Chuck Neinas, former Big 8 commissioner and president of the College Football Association, had been hired as a consultant.

Coker's teams were 4-2 against rival Florida State, 3-0 against Florida and won two BCS bowl games, including a 37-14 victory over Nebraska in the 2002 Rose Bowl, which gave the Hurricanes their fifth national title.

But the Hurricanes slipped considerably the last two seasons, after they won their first 25 games under Coker, a former Miami offensive coordinator, who was elevated to replace Butch Davis following the 2000 season.

Things began spiraling out of control quickly this season.

The Hurricanes lost 31-7 at Louisville on Sept. 16, falling to 1-2 and out of the national-title mix, needed a last-second interception just to beat winless Duke, and then matched the school's longest losing streak in nine years. Also, senior defensive lineman Bryan Pata was shot and killed outside his apartment complex on Nov. 7, adding more torment to a team already reeling from its on-field issues.

Miami was also involved in a brawl with Florida International on Oct. 14, a sideline-clearing melee that led to the suspension of 18 FIU players and 13 Hurricanes players. It was something "that took a lot of heart out of our team," Coker said.

"We have suffered disappointments and tragedy off and on the field," Shalala said in a statement. "We can and will do better for our student-athletes and our community. ... We need a new start."

Miami went 9-3 in 2004 and 2005 and salvaged a .500 record this season after beating the Eagles. The Hurricanes will probably play in the MPC Computers Bowl in Boise, Idaho or the Emerald Bowl in San Francisco.

The crowd of 23,308 at the Orange Bowl for the Boston College game was the smallest in Miami's 44 home games since Dec. 4, 1999.

"Coach Coker is a smart guy, a wonderful guy, a passionate guy," Miami cornerback Glenn Sharpe said Thursday night after the regular-season finale. "A lot of guys were playing with him in their minds."

Coker came to Miami on Feb. 10, 1995, hired by then-coach Butch Davis to be the Hurricanes' offensive coordinator. And he had six often-rocky years as the guru behind Davis' offense, with perhaps the most stormy time before now coming in September 2000.

Miami lost at Washington 34-29 and Coker was the target of widespread ire by fans, some of whom faxed letters to local media outlets demanding he be fired. A "Fire Coker" rally was supposedly scheduled at the school's baseball field, but no event took place.

And by the end of that season, Coker was revered.

The 2000 Hurricanes averaged 42.6 points and 460.8 yards per game, ending the season with 10 straight wins after that loss in Washington -- and things kept rolling for nearly two more full seasons.

Davis resigned on Jan. 29, 2001, to become coach of the Cleveland Browns. About a week later, after Miami reportedly offered the job to Alvarez and then-Miami Dolphins coach Dave Wannstedt, the Hurricanes ultimately turned to Coker -- who had never been a head coach beyond the high-school level.

He went undefeated and won the national championship in his first season, then ran his winning streak to 24 the next year and got the Hurricanes back into the national-title game -- where they lost in double overtime to Ohio State, 31-24.

It was the final time Coker would play for the national crown with the Hurricanes. Miami went to the Orange Bowl and beat Florida State to end the 2003 season, then settled for consecutive Peach Bowl trips that capped 9-3 seasons in 2004 and 2005.

Miami's offensive totals have declined each of the last five years under Coker. The Hurricanes ranked sixth in total offense in 2002 but have sputtered to the 80th-best mark so far this year.

[LostInWilderness]

Did you guys know they still played games after Ohio State versus Michigan?

[TheBigCat]

Kind of wonder why. I mean, what's the point, right. They should just cancel all the bowl games and coronate Ohio State right now. Save them a potential arguement over which 1 loss team should rightfully be the champions in the unlikely event of an OSU loss.

[LostInWilderness]

You're reading my mind. ;)

[LostInWilderness]

Has there been a more overhyped college QB than Brady Quinn since Rick Mirer?

ETA: OMG, Rick Mirer pulled down a paycheck in the NFL for 12 years doing nothing. Maybe Quinn will get that lucky because of the press and Notre Dame's reputation.

[blue sunrise]

From ESPN.com

http://proxy.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=2676062

"Hey, here's a thought: wouldn't it be neat to see the Wolverines play the Trojans in, ta-da, an actual playoff game? You know, just like the rest of the NCAA? Then we wouldn't have to endure the Michigan-or-USC microanalysis."

Brilliant!


LOS ANGELES -- So, USC or Michigan?

That's the only real question left to answer in a season where a national championship matchup will be determined by -- and how stupid is this? -- "style" points.

I hate the BCS. I hate it because the two best teams in the country aren't going to play in the national title game. Instead, No. 1-ranked Ohio State is going to face a very good, but moderately flawed USC team.

If it were up to me -- and a slightly less-flawed Michigan team -- the BCS would be swimming with the fishes. It would be ruled unconstitutional. If you uttered its initials, you would be required to eat a very large bowl of FieldTurf.

So while the rest of the NCAA's Division I-AA, II and III qualifiers are in varying stages of 16-, 24- and 32-team football playoffs, we're stuck with BCS computer standings, mathematical formulas and a "system" so screwed up that it sees a therapist twice a week. It ought to be called the FAC (Flip A Coin).

That's what happened when the assorted (and occasional clueless) coaches and Harris Poll members sat down to fill out their top 25 ballots late Saturday evening and Sunday morning. They had to choose between 10-1 USC, which beat overrated Notre Dame, 44-24, Saturday night at the Coliseum, or 11-1 Michigan, which defeated the same Irish team by 26 points more than two months ago at South Bend.
http://espn-ak.starwave.com/photo/2006/1125/ncf_a_carroll_195.jpg
Kevork Djansezian/AP Photo
Pete Carroll and USC have to like their BCS chances after beating Notre Dame.



The Trojans still have to beat UCLA at the Rose Bowl next Saturday, but if they do, the general consensus is that they'll be in Glendale, Ariz., for the Jan. 8 national championship. There are worse things that could happen, such as Florida somehow squirming its way into the title mix. And nobody outside the greater Gainesville area wants that, do they?

No, it's going to come down to USC or Michigan -- and splitting strands of hair.

Is USC's likely 11-1 regular season record better than Michigan's 11-1 mark?

Is USC's 20-point win against the Irish at home better than the Wolverines' 26-point win on the road?

Is USC's two-point loss at then-unranked Oregon State worse than Michigan's three-point loss at No. 1 Ohio State?

Is USC's schedule, which could include 10 bowl teams, more impressive than Michigan's schedule, which features seven bowl teams?

There are no right or wrong answers to any of these questions. That's the curse of the BCS. It takes subjectivity to a disturbing new level.

I think Michigan is the second-best team in the country. You might think USC is the team best equipped to play undefeated Ohio State. If you do, I've got no problem with your choice. The differences between the Trojans and the Wolverines are as thin as the drawstrings on the Bill Belichick-like sweatshirt Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis wore on the Coliseum sidelines.

Of course, you're not going to get much out of Weis when it comes to choosing between USC and Michigan. When I asked him if USC was the best team the Irish faced this season, Weis launched into a seemingly prepared script.

"It's too dangerous of territory for me to tread," he said, "so I'm going to avoid that one."

Weis' talking points were repeated by Notre Dame's players.

"I don't really care," said Irish safety Tom Zbikowski, when asked to choose between USC and Michigan. "I don't have an opinion."

And this from ND cornerback Mike Richardson: "I'm not really inclined to say anything about that."

Were the Irish under Weis' orders not to discuss any compare-and-contrast scenarios between the two teams?

A small pause. "We're not supposed to," said Richardson.
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Donald Miralle/Getty Images
Dwayne Jarrett's three TD catches had the Trojans jumping against the Irish.



The Trojans weren't as shy. Wide receiver Dwayne Jarrett (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=161084), who would have been a no-brainer Heisman finalist if he hadn't struggled with injuries earlier this season, said USC deserved a place in the championship game if it beat UCLA.

"Oh, yeah, definitely," said Jarrett, who was virtually uncoverable during a seven-catch, 132-yard, three-touchdown night. "We believe we're up there with the best of the best."

"I think that's the matchup everybody wants to see," said Trojans tailback Desmond Reed (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=145167). "Big-time talent. Big-time matchups across the field. If I was a fan, I'd pay to see it."

Even USC coach Pete Carroll, who usually blows off all the BCS-scenario talk, was (for him) in campaign mode.

"We played a heckuva schedule," he said. "We'll play anybody anywhere, and I think we'll be hard to beat."

Actually, I think Ohio State will be hard to beat. If Oregon State can solve the Trojans, so can the Buckeyes. And if Ohio State can beat Michigan once, it can beat it twice, even on a neutral field.

Hey, here's a thought: wouldn't it be neat to see the Wolverines play the Trojans in, ta-da, an actual playoff game? You know, just like the rest of the NCAA? Then we wouldn't have to endure the Michigan-or-USC microanalysis.
To quote the wise Desmond Reed, I'd pay to see that.

Gene Wojciechowski is the senior national columnist for ESPN.com. You can contact him at gene.wojciechowski@espn3.com.


:rotfl: I just noticed my subnic. Nice!

[minywheats]

well Mark May just picked USC by 3 against tOSU so you might as well just give the trophy to tOSU because May is terrible at picking teams. Last year when he picked tOSU against Texas and against Penn St you all saw what happened.

[LostInWilderness]

They have to gin up interest for the ratings. After coronating OSU early in the season, then selling OSU/Michigan as the game of the century, they have to somehow convince average viewers that OSU/USC is worth watching.

After going virtually unmentioned all season, USC will now be presented as a powerhouse on the level of OSU.

[Mysterious Mike]

Squeeee

USC loses

[I Like Freckles]

My brother went to UCLA. He's berserking in his living room as I type.


Thankfully, his wife is roughly the most understanding, patient person I have ever met.



Go Bruins.

[I Like Freckles]

That said, i still hope that Florida passes UM on "style points."

:p

[LostInWilderness]

Bye bye USC. One of the idiots on Around the Horn was saying USC would overwhelm Ohio State with their speed. I'm laughing my ass off.

It's going to be real hard to hype the championship game now unless Michigan gets in.

[Mysterious Mike]

Even if Florida wins I don't think they will go up enough to overtake Michigan.



BCS Standings - November 26, 2006 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/BCSStandings?week=7)

USC went from .9188 in week 6 of the BCS standings to .9460 after beating then No. 5 Notre Dame. Arkansas is currently ranked 9th in the BCS with Florida 4th. Florida will probably get a .0300 bump at the most and with them at .8897 that wouldn't be enough to overtake Michigan at .9216 , I have to believe that Michigan will be ranked 2nd in at least some of the polls so they will go up .


I hate the BCS even if Michigan gets in.

[boonian androphile]

Time for the rematch. OSU and Michigan are the best two teams.

[Mysterious Mike]

Arkansas just scored a TD.

[Mysterious Mike]

Bye bye USC. One of the idiots on Around the Horn was saying USC would overwhelm Ohio State with their speed. I'm laughing my ass off.




I saw that also and thought he was on crack myself.

[RunLoganRun]

Even if Florida wins I don't think they will go up enough to overtake Michigan. I hate the BCS even if Michigan gets in.

I disagree - don't the polls count for 2/3rds of the BCS rankings ? If Florida wins by a couple touchdowns tonight - I think they will play Ohio State. Plus, Florida has a harder schedule and an extra game with the game tonight.

[everlost]

If Florida wins by 14+ they might make it

[JustDucky]

Bye bye USC. One of the idiots on Around the Horn was saying USC would overwhelm Ohio State with their speed. I'm laughing my ass off.

It's going to be real hard to hype the championship game now unless Michigan gets in.


Agreed on all counts. USC was shaky in a # of games and I do not think they would have had a shot against OSU.

I hope it is Michigan. OSU would kill Fla

[blue sunrise]

Squeeee

USC loses:faintthud

OK, so when do they announce it? Do any of the teams in contention have another game?

:blinkie: Hee hee! This is very exciting!

Oh, and Go Blue!

[JustDucky]

:faintthud

OK, so when do they announce it? Do any of the teams in contention have another game?

:blinkie: Hee hee! This is very exciting!

Oh, and Go Blue!


Nope - that;s it

I think tomorrow

[minywheats]

tomorrow night at 8pm we will see who Ohio State will curb stomp

[LostInWilderness]

It's going to be real interesting between Florida and Michigan. If either team ends up 2 in both polls, that team will go. The problem I have with that is that big money becomes a concern of voters.

[NeillT006]

I would love to see what the Las Vegas odds makers would do with hypothetical OSU - U of M, OSU - Florida and U of M - Florida games right now.

N.

[LostInWilderness]

I bet that's some interesting betting going on until 8PM.

[NeillT006]

In the Vegas system, who do you think the odds makers would put up as a closer game vs OSU?

N.

[LostInWilderness]

Michigan.

[NeillT006]

Then that is really the answer isn't it?

N.

[LostInWilderness]

The answer will be determined by the pollsters, the computers, and the BCS formula. But like I said, I think the pollsters control it. If they want to see a rematch, they'll vote Michigan #2. If they want to see a different game, they'll vote Florida #2. I'm afraid money may influence that vote.

It will be a lot easier to hype OSU/Michigan the rematch, after all the hype they put into the original, that it will be to hype OSU versus the third consolation team.

[RunLoganRun]

It will be a lot easier to hype OSU/Michigan the rematch, after all the hype they put into the original, that it will be to hype OSU versus the third consolation team.

Did you even watch Florida play this season ? They are an exciting team to watch, just crowned SEC champions, and are 12-1 for the year. So, it is very easy to promote this game as the best of the Big Ten versus the best of the SEC. If you want a marketing nightmare - put in Boise State.

[LostInWilderness]

Boise State would be worse. I watched the game last night, a sloppy, poorly played game.

The problem with hyping OSU/Florida is that OSU/Michigan was billed as the game of the century two weeks ago, and the game lived up to that billing. Even if Florida is better than Michigan, which I sincerely doubt, how could OSU/Florida hype top the game of the century?

[Mysterious Mike]

I don't think Florida is very exciting at all and the only reason they have an extra game is because they play a championship game in the SEC and they don't in the Big Ten. Should Michigan be penalized for that ?


The BCS selection show is about to start on FOX.

[Mysterious Mike]

Oklahoma vs Boise State is the first game.

[Mysterious Mike]

Its Florida vs Ohio State



Dammit frakkin BCS

[LostInWilderness]

You can't blame the BCS this time. Both polls put Florida #2, or Michigan would have gone.

My question is, after the poor play Saturday, why would voters pick Florida over Michigan? The answer has to be that the voters wanted to see OSU/Florida rather OSU/Michigan. I have very little confidence in the integrity of those polls in this situation.

[LostInWilderness]

Boise State finally gets its shot. If they compete with Oklahoma, it will hard to deny them a shot at the title if they go undefeated again.

[minywheats]

alright lets go Buckeyes!!!

show the SEC how overrated they are

[timbo910]

Wah, Wah.... sorry Blue-bellies. What a Rose Bowl though. My two least favorite teams playing each other. And ND will not win a bowl game this year either, dammit. Why can't the BCS just snub us so we can finally win a bowl.

BTW, Mike? Did you misspell Maize as Maze in your location on purpose? Just trying to look out for my fellow Michiganders, even if you do root for the bad guys in my backyard.

[Mysterious Mike]

BTW, Mike? Did you misspell Maize as Maze in your location on purpose? Just trying to look out for my fellow Michiganders, even if you do root for the bad guys in my backyard.



What are you talking about , it was never wrong. ;)



As much as I dislike Ohio State I want them to beat the crap out of Florida and show them what Big Ten Football is all about. I think Ohio State will win by 10 or more.


Michigan vs USC and Boise State vs Oklahoma should be great games.