S3 EPISODE 2 THREAD 11-OCT-06: The Glass Ballerina

[Brian]

This is the discussion thread for the next LOST episode, "The Glass Ballerina"

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The episode ended at Post #228.

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Episode Description:

Sayid places Sun and Jin's lives in danger while trying to locate Jack, while Jack gets a tempting offer from his captors.

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[synthmasterj]

Here we go.

[SimonO]

A brilliant episode. Enjoy, everyone. Keep your eyes peeled.

[uwdaveh]

Just finished watching it. Liked it even better than the opening episode :)

[CHFDigital]

Ben is healing nicely...

"You never made soup for me..."

[CHFDigital]

Trixie!

[Echo]

Oh Hottiet, how I love you so.

[synthmasterj]

Jack is warn down.

[turok4n64]

eh how did you view the episode already

[PhDBreezy]

Behind Benry- were those surveillance TV's from other hatch's?

[LoonyLuna]

i got the impression sun was perhaps abused. i think i may have read into it wrong. but i also think colleen (sp?) was the other woman between benry and juliette

[Jason and the ARGonauts]

This ep seems boring...

[foxxie]

"I want that boat." Classic.

[TastyBabySoup]

Colleen! Ben wants that boat! Go get it for him!

[C_Lost]

You never made soup for me. Couple?

[davelanger]

Sailing in circles? So are they still messing with the magnetic field?

[Selestina118]

Ben is healing nicely...

"You never made soup for me..."

Yeah. :) DId you notice that he had remote viewing monitors in his room like there were in the Pearl. Another way that he knows everything on the island . . . . so maybe the others didn't need the Pearl?

:Cheers:

[synthmasterj]

Behind Benry- were those surveillance TV's from other hatch's?

Yes

[PandoraX]

i got the impression sun was perhaps abused. i think i may have read into it wrong. but i also think colleen (sp?) was the other woman between benry and juliette

Hmm.... ditto on both those points. Colleen seemed like she was jealous

[SimonO]

eh how did you view the episode already

ATV/CTV show it early in Canada :)

This ep seems boring...
It's anything but boring.

[synthmasterj]

This ep seems boring...

Oh shut it.

[ScoobMaster]

I hope Sawyer hooks up with that guys daughter, just to piss him off

[TastyBabySoup]

CHEATER! SUN YOU CHEATING W***E

[PhDBreezy]

Sun....oh no she didn't (imagine finger waving wildly in Sun's face).

[Merciful Sky]

OMG, Sun and the bald dude...I KNEW IT.

[turok4n64]

so this is how Sun gets pregnant

[SpacedinLost]

Ohh... Sun's a dirty bird! lol

[Dorkfish]

Wow, should've know....

[turok4n64]

oh snap sun's dad!

[SpacedinLost]

Daddy's jealous

[Radio Silence]

Whoops, Sun got caught.

[CHFDigital]

What are the Others doing right there? Archeological dig?

[C_Lost]

take it off

[TastyBabySoup]

"How dare you?" I love you, Sawyer

[SpacedinLost]

LOL "How dare you" Gotta love Sawyer.

[turok4n64]

lol that shocker guy owns

[LoonyLuna]

LMAO how dare you?!?

[zerokarma]

The Red Sox thing at the end was great

[uwdaveh]

The Red Sox thing at the end was great
some people haven't seen the whole episode you know.

[SpacedinLost]

Ok, so I'm still stuck on "You never made soup for me" --- Does that mean Benry and Juliet were lovers? OR does it mean that Juliet once "broke" Benry the way she's breaking Jack? (or trying to).

Not that they're necessarily mutually exclusive.. heheh

[davelanger]

The Red Sox thing at the end was great

Red Sox?

[LostInLove-NY]

dang it, I was busy trying to get on here and missed the last scene before commercial - the guy shocked Sawyer, why? Also, why did he say how dare you? Thanks!

[zerokarma]

Then you shouldn't be in here

[TastyBabySoup]

someone needs to post a screen cap of the video screens Benry was watching.

[ScoobMaster]

I hope they show the peeps back at camp sometime

[uwdaveh]

Then you shouldn't be in here
dude most people discussing in here are watching it now

[Merciful Sky]

Then you shouldn't be in here
This is for people who are watching the show right now. No spoilers until the rest of us are done watching it.

[NormanFrancisBates]

I hope they show the peeps back at camp sometime

seconded.

[turok4n64]

Then you shouldn't be in here


you need to leave now

[C_Lost]

someone needs to post a screen cap of the video screens Benry was watching.

one looked to be jack in his cell

[zerokarma]

alright, alright sorry, I keep forgetting CTV here in Canada shows it an hour earlier

[SpacedinLost]

dang it, I was busy trying to get on here and missed the last scene before commercial - the guy shocked Sawyer, why? Also, why did he say how dare you? Thanks!


Kate said she couldn't work in a dress... the guy told her she could take it off if she wanted to. McDreamySawyer looked at her like he'd really like that if she did and when she gave him a dirty look he looked at the captor and said, "How dare you."

He shocked Sawyer to punish Kate. She said she wouldn't work till she saw Jack. So the guy shocked Sawyer to punish Kate.

[TastyBabySoup]

hmmm....does Jin know she cheated?

[dolce55]

ahh sayid, NO!!!!

[SpacedinLost]

famous last words, "of course it's safe"

[turok4n64]

admiring the view lol

[TastyBabySoup]

Sawyer's pervin a dish!

[Dorkfish]

Ohhhh Alex and Carl sittin in a tree.....

[davelanger]

I wouldnt trust that girl

[SAN66]

Awesome episode with an awesome ending. The previews for next weeks episode look like its gonna be great as well! We finally get to find out what happened with Locke, Desmond and Echo.... well at least Locke.

I won't ruin the rest of this episode for those that arent done watching it, but next week has been the one I've been waiting for since the end of last season.

[jadedscenester]

sayid kicks so much ass...

[dolce55]

sayid is a beast.. lol

[LostInLove-NY]

Thanks for the info Spacedinlost!

[turok4n64]

Awesome episode with an awesome ending. The previews for next weeks episode look like its gonna be great as well! We finally get to find out what happened with Locke, Desmond and Echo.... well at least Locke.

I won't ruin the rest of this episode for those that arent done watching it, but next week has been the one I've been waiting for since the end of last season.


would you shut the hell up?

[Merciful Sky]

Sayid is made of win.

[treygar]

o man can we get some screen caps of Kate working please!!!!

[losterandloster]

Awesome episode with an awesome ending. The previews for next weeks episode look like its gonna be great as well! We finally get to find out what happened with Locke, Desmond and Echo.... well at least Locke.

I won't ruin the rest of this episode for those that arent done watching it, but next week has been the one I've been waiting for since the end of last season.

Dude, shut up!!

[SpacedinLost]

sayid is the manly-man. rrrwowrr lol

[Mysterious Mike]

Now this is the Sayid I like and season 1 Jin seems to be making another appearance

[SpacedinLost]

Thanks for the info Spacedinlost!

de nada, LIL :)

[ScoobMaster]

what's with people trying to get screens before the episode is over, wait a few mins

[jadedscenester]

of course, i have no doubt in my mind his plan will fail. the others' scout party likely knows a lot more about them than sayid thinks.

awesome, nonetheless.

[Hurley4Prez]

I never have any idea ftw we're talking about in these episode threads.

Just a lurker orgy. :(

[lostboy]

Oh, Kate's ass. yummy!

[Radio Silence]

Hmmm ... a KY silk commercial four minutes after seeing Kate bending over.

[SpacedinLost]

Did you all just see that Volvo commercial with the chatterbox little girl? That's my kid (she's six). Not THE girl.. but mine's the same way. It's only quiet here now cuz she's asleep. ;)

[LostInLove-NY]

What is up with Jin reverting to his old macho-do what I say- self??? It's been like two days since they got on that sailboat and he's gone back to how he was in the very beginning :(

[ScoobMaster]

wow, I am impressed that Sayid thinks he can take a whole team of people down by himself, should be interesting to watch

[erock1070]

what did Alex say to Kate, I missed it

[snakey]

Dont forget kate is commando too.

[turok4n64]

jun is a lying bitch!

[SimonO]

what did Alex say to Kate, I missed it
She asked about Karl. She also said to Kate that "you're not even meant to be in the cage". Kate is, according to Alex, wearing Alex's dress.

[TastyBabySoup]

it seems like the producers are forgetting that Sun was not that defiant towards Jin before they landed on the island? Anyone else notice that?

[SpacedinLost]

what did Alex say to Kate, I missed it


She asked if they were being kept in cages... then asked if Kate saw the kid in the cage but she hadn't. I think she said, "he was supposed to be int he cage." She said the dress Kate's wearing is hers... but that Kate could keep it..looks better on her anyway.

[turok4n64]

Jin pwns!

[SpacedinLost]

She asked about Karl. She also said to Kate that "you're not even meant to be in the cage". Kate is, according to Alex, wearing Alex's dress.

Thanks for clarifying this. I thought she said that HE was supposed to be in the cage. My bad.

[jadedscenester]

and now jin kicks ass too. here's to hoping they kill some others.

[SimonO]

it seems like the producers are forgetting that Sun was not that defiant towards Jin before they landed on the island? Anyone else notice that?
You mean apart from when she slapped the taste out his mouth in the S1 flashback after he beat the snot out of Paik's associate?

[turok4n64]

lol at sawyer pouring out the water

[SpacedinLost]

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Sawyer Sawyer Sawyer

[Radio Silence]

Hey! Hey! You can't kiss there! Don't make me come over there!

[LostInLove-NY]

aw he LOVES her :)

and it was worth getting hit!

[davelanger]

wow dont mess with sawyer

[TastyBabySoup]

SAWYER JUST CLEANED HOUSE!! YES! GO SAWYER GO!

[CHFDigital]

Go Sawyer!

[davelanger]

Btw i really think kate could take her, isnt kate a criminal?

[Echo]

Hottiet you're so wonderfully smart

[treygar]

Jin pwns!

what does pwn mean i've seen it before...

[dolce55]

oh shit.. jin is screwed

[SpacedinLost]

I was thinking the same: that Kate could take her. But they were outnumbered.

[CHFDigital]

Oh geez...three pairs of boots there.

[LostInLove-NY]

whoah, lots of guys with guns getting on the sailboat... don't kill sun!

[jadedscenester]

the others are good...did they get on the boat from the water?

[LoonyLuna]

omggg this is so nerve racking!

[Selestina118]

From what I see so far, this episode is much better than last weeks. ^.^

[LostInWilderness]

All Kate had to do was help, and they had control. What's up with that? Like Kate couldn't have taken that gun from that girl.

[turok4n64]

pwn just means owns

[LostInLove-NY]

jaded, looks like they got on from the dock - anyone else see it clearer?

[treygar]

man oh man did juliet look hot smiling at Sawyer...

[PhDBreezy]

What did Juliet call Sawyer to get his attention? Was it his real name? How does she know that?

[elodie]

what happened between sun and jin? does he know that she cheated? i zoned out during that part.

[ScoobMaster]

umm, it occurs to me that the Others are a bunch of pansies, but pansies in numbers still have strength I guess

[davelanger]

IF the others are good does this mean there are another tribe on the island besides the others and the plane people?

[jadedscenester]

if they came from the dock, why didn't jin/sayid see them?

[snakey]

I expected kate to kick J butt too, man she took care of that marshall toute suite.

[turok4n64]

well they know their names as seen from last episode of season 2

[TastyBabySoup]

i might go gay for Josh Halloway if he'd have me. Thats how much that scene owned. To bad kate had to get Other'd.....AGAIN!

[jeever79]

the others are planning something out and using the losties as slaves to build it! oh shit!

[Mysterious Mike]

I never have any idea ftw we're talking about in these episode threads.

Just a lurker orgy. :(



:clap:


Yup its pretty much a free for all when the show is on.

[snakey]

They swam out what does it matter, there are a lot of them.

[LoonyLuna]

yeah i think jin is screwed too...which leaves the mystery around suns baby

[LostInLove-NY]

elodie, we don't know if Jin knows yet that she cheated, but he told her he understands more english than she thinks he does and that he knows she betrayed him.... about cheating? or about siding with Sayid and not telling him the plan? Maybe both!

[turok4n64]

lol at jack in the box commercial

[jadedscenester]

They swam out what does it matter, there are a lot of them.

it matters because once again they've proven to be one step ahead...how do they keep doing that?

[turok4n64]

if they swam, and from the looks of it there's alot, surely you would hear them

[snakey]

In spoilers here someone said , what if Jin killed baldy, very good thinking as we see now. Paik is so evil!!!!!

[SpacedinLost]

My heart's still goin' pitter patter from that Sawyer kiss scene. Man, just the looks he's dolin' out to night make my heart skip a beat. The man is may-un!

[Merciful Sky]

it matters because once again they've proven to be one step ahead...how do they keep doing that?

Also, there clothes looked dry.

[SimonO]

What did Colleen say they were taking at the start of the episode? Something along the lines of a "Galaca", but I can't remember exactly what the word was.

[LostInLove-NY]

yep, Jin knows.... that's why sun's dad called him "son"!!!

[davelanger]

wow jin can kick some butt.

[turok4n64]

why the bald guy say "wait" when a complete stranger approached him

[davelanger]

I wonder if that guy is on the island too. Wouldnt suprise me

[turok4n64]

HOLY SHIT BALD DUDE DIED

[LostInLove-NY]

hmm, did he jump or was he pushed???

[davelanger]

why the bald guy say "wait" when a complete stranger approached him

He isnt a stranger, he knows he was cheating with his wife.

[turok4n64]

what was with the pearls? lost that connection

[dolce55]

who's pearls were those? jins?

[LostInLove-NY]

actually, seeing the pearls in his hands I guess he jumped!

[davelanger]

just pul the damn trigger, why are they so dumb

[SimonO]

who's pearls were those? jins?
Suns.

Jae gave them to her at the start of the episode :)

I don't know how you guys can surf the forums while an episode is on :p I watched this already so I am exempt :D

[davelanger]

Again they know their names

[SpacedinLost]

yOU GO sun!!!!!

[Selestina118]

The pearls were what Jae wanted to give Sun for her to leave Jin and marry him.

[dolce55]

oh man.. oh man.. jin!

[turok4n64]

wouldn't the others want them all alive? why would they be shooting at them

[C_Lost]

if the boat has a motor then why did syaid have to sail it?

[CHFDigital]

Well, that was quite the wash, eh? They lost the boat...

[billnye97]

Thanks for the info guys. I'm at work so I can't watch. Please keep me updated. :Cheers:

[Echo]

there's a 100% chance Sun pushed baldie out the window.

[jadedscenester]

if the boat has a motor then why did syaid have to sail it?

i was thinking that too...

[erock1070]

where's the dharma shark when you need it. would have loved to see it gulp up sun and jin

[LoonyLuna]

wtf? didnt sun get shot? or was that just to mess with us? you cant see anything with these night scenes!

[uwdaveh]

if the boat has a motor then why did syaid have to sail it?
Good point :)

[LostInLove-NY]

so let me get this straight... Jin knows he can't have kids (right or am I assuming???) and he knows Sun is pregnant and that it's most probably baldy's kid... but since he knows baldy is dead, all is ok???

[treygar]

sun rocks...ya'll think colleen is dead...the others may have the boat but they definitely know they got their hands full with sawyer, jack, kate, sayid, sun, and jin...

we haven't even seen eko and locke get involved yet either...no wonder they never wanted the losties to cross the line..they know they can't hang...

[SpacedinLost]

wow.. they lost the boat. How did they get on the boat without having gotten wet? I missed that part.

[erock1070]

motor, u r right. where did that come from?

[Kud-Dukan]

OK...where did the Others come from?! They just appeared on the boat...how did the get there?

[LoonyLuna]

i thought sun pushed him out too. which kinda supports the whole "i know about lying" theme that tonight seems to be about

[Merciful Sky]

there's a 100% chance Sun pushed baldie out the window.

Sun wasn't even there. :/

[Mysterious Mike]

Paik had a man throw Jae out the window is what I am thinking.

[CHFDigital]

wow.. they lost the boat. How did they get on the boat without having gotten wet? I missed that part.

The boat was still on the dock.

[Verite Garde]

All Kate had to do was help, and they had control. What's up with that? Like Kate couldn't have taken that gun from that girl.

I expected her to go along, too, and was disappointed.

[ScoobMaster]

wtf? didnt sun get shot? or was that just to mess with us? you cant see anything with these night scenes!

she looked like it barely missed her, but like I said earlier, it has become clear the others are pansies, and may be getting in over their heads with the losties struggling to survive, they are more prepared to fight and kill

[LostInLove-NY]

I still don't get how the others know everything that's going on around them but didn't know desmond arrived in the boat and kelvin fixed it etc etc... or maybe Benry was just saying that he didn't know the losties had the boat?

[snakey]

Sayid, bad data. If Colleen is dead that was a big deal about nothing, did she call Picket Danny or daddy? I know, I know just say it...no soup for you!

[SimonO]

OK...where did the Others come from?! They just appeared on the boat...how did the get there?
Most probably on the mode of transport they spoke about at the start of the episode. They called it the "Galaga", or something similar.

[treygar]

most sailboats have motors for going in and out of docks...usually with a small/limited gas tank...

[Diamondduste]

so let me get this straight... Jin knows he can't have kids (right or am I assuming???) and he knows Sun is pregnant and that it's most probably baldy's kid... but since he knows baldy is dead, all is ok???

In a sick way, it is. Kind of like Jin getting the last laugh... he'll claim that guy's kid as his own.

[PandoraX]

Wow, this game Mr. Paik is playing is so complicated. Did Jae jump or was he pushed?

[jadedscenester]

is that show the nine any good? i tend to flip over to south park...

[lostislander]

I have to agree sun may have pushed baldie out of the window... Then girl on the boat told Sun,"your not a killer" and Sun shot her!!!

[Droop]

was that woman wet that confronted Sun? I thought she was dry so how did they get on the boat?

[Gear7]

tugboat maybe...or no gass but the others had gas

[Merciful Sky]

I expected her to go along, too, and was disappointed.

That's what I was expecting, too. I would have elbowed Juliet in the face or something.

[uwdaveh]

The boat was still on the dock.
exactly, I thought the boat looked different from the boat they sailed to to dock as well

[C_Lost]

will they take Colleen back to Jack to try and save her? what will Jack do?

[SpacedinLost]

The boat was still on the dock.

Ah, thanks. That would do it. lol

[Verite Garde]

there's a 100% chance Sun pushed baldie out the window.

Oh, I think it was one of Sun's father's thugs.

[NormanFrancisBates]

Am I mistaken, or was there a conversation concerning the motor towards the end of last season, saying they would sail so they could avoid detection (less noisy)... I might have completely lost my mind, but I remember something like that.

[Diamondduste]

Sayid, bad data. If Colleen is dead that was a big deal about nothing, did she call Picket Danny or daddy? I know, I know just say it...no soup for you!

Just remember... a doctor is also being held captive.

[billnye97]

is that show the nine any good? i tend to flip over to south park...


I really didn't like the pilot. It was kind of dull. I don't know how that show will last more than a season

[snakey]

I dont know about baldy, he had the Pearls in his hand which seems like he jumped.

[treygar]

no jae killed himself...he knew he couldn't see sun no more so he'd rather not live than live without her.

[uwdaveh]

Oh, I think it was one of Sun's father's thugs.
But if he was pushed, would he have the time to hold the pearl in his hand (which was in the black box)?

[turok4n64]

so Jin doesnt know about Sun

[SpacedinLost]

"chain gang look good on you freckles" heheh

[jadedscenester]

you taste like fish biscuits...awesome.

[TastyBabySoup]

how can kate and sawyer be whispering to eachother when their cells are easily 20 feet apart?

[billnye97]

When the episode is over can somebody give me a synopsis of what happend? I'm at work in the morgue and don't have access to a TV. Any info would be appreciated.

[turok4n64]

ben was wearing glasses looking at those TVs!!

[cattangel]

you taste like fish biscuits :)

[LostInLove-NY]

so much for trying to plan a secret escape! They see it all on the screens - THAT'S how they know so much

[SpacedinLost]

Benry looks lilke he's gettin' chunky there.

[turok4n64]

benjamin lioness!

[Diamondduste]

Big reveal about Ben right there!

[LostInLove-NY]

Benjamin Linus lived on that island all his life??????? Born there - son of someone of the darma project!

[Magnulf]

All of his life... interesting.

[TastyBabySoup]

"My name is Benjamen Linus and I've lived on this island all my life."

[SimonO]

benjamin lioness!
"Benjamin Linus"

[turok4n64]

so Ben isn't the big cheese..."i'm not allowed to do so at this time"

[Diamondduste]

November 29th, 2004!

Big reveal!!!

[cattangel]

Finally a Date!!!!

[LostInLove-NY]

November 29th! 69 days so far! Whoah, now we KNOW they have outside access!

[SpacedinLost]

How flippin cool. Contact with the outside world confirmed.

[dolce55]

haha the red sox stuff is funny

[CHFDigital]

Ha...love the Sawx disbelief.

[LostInLove-NY]

Ok, this is REALLY funny about him not believing. ... and WHOAH he's watching the red sox win it!!!!!!

[turok4n64]

lol red sox, wtf

[Diamondduste]

They just broke Jack!

[SpacedinLost]

HOLY MOLY

[LostInLove-NY]

ohlord, he's going to flip jack

[CHFDigital]

What were his closing words?

[billnye97]

How, what's going on???????

[SpacedinLost]

Agreed.. He dun been turned.

[LostInLove-NY]

we see the monster again next week and we know they survived the blast!!! yay!!!

[davelanger]

That red sox part rocked

[turok4n64]

wow what do you think is growling and scaring everyone?

[SimonO]

That whole scene with Jack and Ben will go down in Lost folklore :D

Classic scene.

[SpacedinLost]

you cooperate when the time is right and I will take you home.

[Echo]

Sun wasn't even there. :/

How do you know she could have left after Jin did.

[jadedscenester]

so much for trying to plan a secret escape! They see it all on the screens - THAT'S how they know so much

looked like all those screen were just on the hydra hatch -- video of jack, sawyer, kate...unless they have cameras elsewhere all over the island, and can switch to other places, like pala ferry. but i doubt it, otherwise he probably would have been watching them take his boat back.

[LostInLove-NY]

oh, and they better save Eko!

[billnye97]

That whole scene with Jack and Ben will go down in Lost folklore :D

Classic scene.

What exactly went on??

[TastyBabySoup]

so if Colleen is shot, who in the other's camp is qualified to operate on her?

[snakey]

Jack hurt Benry's feelings. No soup for jack!

[dolce55]

i hope jack doesn't go over to the others side. maybe he'll pretend to cooperate.

[Hawksrule]

if the boat has a motor then why did syaid have to sail it?

Many sailboats have emergency motors for use in case they're becalmed. But they typically don't go very fast- faster than a swimmer, though. And motors make noise. At one point in his plan, the silence was a tactical advantage.

[Diamondduste]

so if Colleen is shot, who in the other's camp is qualified to operate on her?

Uh... they have a doctor as a prisoner.

[LostInWilderness]

I think "lost" is a great description of every plan these idiots come up with.

"Let's set a big fire so the others will know we're drawing them into a trap. And we'll leave our most valuable asset, our best escape from this encounter, and possibly only escape from the island tied to the dock with our most vulnerable member in it."

"Great plan. Let's do it."

[LOSTCHARLIEFAN77]

What do they have against the survivors and why have they tracked them there?? I know this is a question TPTB have not answered and probably will not answer until they are ready to. But what are your theories on this as a viewer??:)

[ScoobMaster]

I doubt Jack will turn.... er hope

[Merciful Sky]

How do you know she could have left after Jin did.

If the chick Sun shot didn't think Sun would ever kill anybody, I doubt she would have killed Jae.

[Diamondduste]

What exactly went on??
Ben confirmed the date is November 29th, 2004. Jack didn't believe him, especially when he said the Red Sox won the World Series. Jack laughed because of the personal connection to his dad. Ben then showed him the video of game 7 where the Sox won, and Jack looked as if he was about to cry.

[Kud-Dukan]

That was even better than last week's episode! The ending was genius. And that preview for next week...:eye-poppi:)

[snakey]

LIW, exactly. they arent the brightest bulbs. Sawyer talking of his secret plan in the open where any of them can hear, let alone they are on vids.

[Hawksrule]

I still don't get how the others know everything that's going on around them but didn't know desmond arrived in the boat and kelvin fixed it etc etc... or maybe Benry was just saying that he didn't know the losties had the boat?

It could be as simple as a lack of cameras in the cove where the boat was.

[lostislander]

What was the statement jack made last season about the red sox and winning?

[ScoobMaster]

Ben confirmed the date is November 29th, 2004. Jack didn't believe him, especially when he said the Red Sox won the World Series. Jack laughed because of the personal connection to his dad. Ben then showed him the video of game 7 where the Sox won, and Jack looked as if he was about to cry.

if it was in the World series, there was no game 7, just 4

[Merciful Sky]

OMG, was Ecko in the place underground where the black thing came from?

[Diamondduste]

What was the statement jack made last season about the red sox and winning?

Jack's dad had a saying about the Red Sox. Sawyer repeated it to Jack in season 1.

[LostInLove-NY]

Ball - the scene went something like this:

Ben: let me properly introduce myself. I'm Benjamin Linus and I've lived on this island my entire life

bla bla bla

Cooperate and you can go home

Jack: like michael and walt "went home" If you could really leave, why would you stay?

Benry: exactly... we have contact, you crashed 9/22/04 and in that time George W Bush was reelected, Christopher Reeve died, and the red sox won the world series

Jack: <laughing like crazy> you should have picked a more believable team than the red sox!

Benry: <turns on tv which shows red sox winning and Jack can only stare>

Benry says: cooperate and I'll TAKE you home.

[billnye97]

Ben confirmed the date is November 29th, 2004. Jack didn't believe him, especially when he said the Red Sox won the World Series. Jack laughed because of the personal connection to his dad. Ben then showed him the video of game 7 where the Sox won, and Jack looked as if he was about to cry.


Thanks :)

[Hawksrule]

will they take Colleen back to Jack to try and save her? what will Jack do?

I don't think they'd have to do that. Didn't the others perform medical procedures on Claire?

[Merciful Sky]

Jack's dad had a saying about the Red Sox. Sawyer repeated it to Jack in season 1.

Wasn't it something about if the Red Sox would win the World Series? I can't remember...

[PandoraX]

Wow, that totally turned around so many theories this episode....

My impression of Sun is definitely totally changed, but I still think the twist will be that the baby is Jin's...

[truffula]

WOW!!!!! :blinkie:
That was FREAKIN AWESOME!!!! :D

It's gonna take me a while to type up my first round notes, just wanted to jump in and say that I REALLY enjoyed this episode! :D

[LoonyLuna]

i think the motor we heard was the original boat we first saw the others in, and they were pulling the sail boat away with them

[SimonO]

Wasn't it something about if the Red Sox would win the World Series? I can't remember...

"That's why the Red Sox will never win the series"