Will Jack have to help Colleen?

[jmainaz]

I wonder if they will make Jack help Colleen now that she was shot by Sun.
Any thoughts?

-JMAinAZ

[TheBigCat]

Nope. She needs a priest, not a doctor. And since the Others are all athiests, I doubt they will be calling Eko any time either.

[Noav Sigless]

I think Jack will be doing surgery on her.

[John]

It was a right hand gut shot, but she should make it if she gets attention soon.

[ISLANDLEA]

Hearst @ least is alive and well, well except maybe for some radiation - where's that blonde kid, his buddy from years ago ? ...lea

[Badger]

I think Jack will be doing surgery on her.

'Save Colleen and/or......'

Oh yeah, I think that's a safe assumption.

[Sol.de.verano]

I think Benry will make a really tempting offer!!

[mjgill85]

I would have thought that Ben would have a use for Jack in mind for the future ("when the time is right").

It seems odd that Ben would keep Jack locked up for an undetermined period of time until the off-chance that one of their team gets seriously injured :confused:

[Fierro]

I think the deal has nothing to do with coleen. It is something much deeper. And it's related to the reason why they are kidnapping people.
He may not even know that that girl was shot when he was talking to Jack.

[ISLANDLEA]

hi, the blondie kid, u know- he used to be Hearst's partner in that old PI series where Hearst had that big Dodge truck with the Railroad tie for a front bumper. Anyone know what became of that actor ?

and yes, Jack's gonna operate on Trixie, what else ? ...lea :bump:

[Bender]

What will Pickett do when he finds out Colleen has been shot by one of the survivors? Will he take it out on Sawyer, or maybe Kate? There was really no reason to show him giving Colleen a kiss, other than to set up a reason for him to punish one of, if not both of them.

[m0nwell]

If they ask jack to do that he better say something like: "ok answer this long list of questions about you all for me first."

[Aaron's Mum]

Juliet is a doctor too. But then again, who's to say that means anything if she got her degree on the island.

[jd_21]

Juliet is a doctor too. But then again, who's to say that means anything if she got her degree on the island.

or better yet...online degree.

[Rollergrrl]

I think Benry will make a really tempting offer!!


i think benry can bite me.



:nanabobo:




and i got the impression that colleen bought the farm.

[Mysterious Mike]

hi, the blondie kid, u know- he used to be Hearst's partner in that old PI series where Hearst had that big Dodge truck with the Railroad tie for a front bumper. Anyone know what became of that actor ?


Simon and Simon





I think Colleen is dead , there is good chance Sun hit her liver with the shot. Sun being so close would also insure massive internal damage.


Colleen was right , this will make the Losties and Others enemies for life.

[Hecklerislost]

Colleen was right , this will make the Losties and Others enemies for life.


If they aren't enemies for life already, why now? Is Colleen more important then most? The losties have a habit of killing the others.

[boonian androphile]

When one side starts abducting/kidnapping members of the other side, then the battle has already begun.

[interplanetjanet]

When one side starts abducting/kidnapping members of the other side, then the battle has already begun.
Yes. I've wondered if the woman Ana Lucia killed during the other raid was Ben's old lover, explaining why he suddenly tried to kill her for killing two of us "good people who were leaving you alone!" even though his version of leaving the tailies alone is really, really different than mine.

The guy who tailed them closely in LTDA seemed another throwaway death--why be anywhere near them? They'll spend a lot of people to capture the ones they want. I don't understand it.

Once the others started kidnapping the survivors of flight 815, I think battle was joined. Did Colleen really think Sun would rather be taken prisoner by the infamous others than shoot her and escape?

I do expect, if any other really needed surgery, Jack would put on a hissy fit and then cooperate.

[Mysterious Mike]

Yes. I've wondered if the woman Ana Lucia killed during the other raid was Ben's old lover, explaining why he suddenly tried to kill her for killing two of us "good people who were leaving you alone!" even though his version of leaving the tailies alone is really, really different than mine.

The guy who tailed them closely in LTDA seemed another throwaway death--why be anywhere near them? They'll spend a lot of people to capture the ones they want. I don't understand it.

Once the others started kidnapping the survivors of flight 815, I think battle was joined. Did Colleen really think Sun would rather be taken prisoner by the infamous others than shoot her and escape?

I do expect, if any other really needed surgery, Jack would put on a hissy fit and then cooperate.



I think there are in fact Others red shirts or throwaways that do the bidding of the Others leadership unquestioned.


Why they do so and why the Others seem to not really care about their deaths is a great question.


I can see that Jack hissy fit now.

[losterandloster]

Jack will operate no questions asked, no hissy fit thrown. It's like an instinct with him, that hero complex. It's like the first thing he did when he saw bloody Ben after Sayid beat him up. He knew Ben was an enemy, but he saw him all bloody and started doing that doctor exam, looking at his wounds, bandaging him up, and all that.

[interplanetjanet]

I think there are in fact Others red shirts or throwaways that do the bidding of the Others leadership unquestioned.

Brownshirts. But there seems a difference between the people on the missions, some of them given guns, and the ones doing the excavation, who have a lot of people with guns standing over them. The latter looked a lot more like a plantation with slaves and overseers.

[ISLANDLEA]

Simon and Simon

I think Colleen is dead , there is good chance Sun hit her liver with the shot. Sun being so close would also insure massive internal damage.


Colleen was right , this will make the Losties and Others enemies for life.

hi, Simon and Simon, yes,, thx Mike>> so what ever happenned to the young blonde guy ? didn't he play Hearst's brother ?

You really think Trixie's dead, maybe not. perhaps Jack will get to do his doc thingy, and the others will help, and they have much more med stuff than our Losties had. ...lea

now I have to search info on Simon & Simon

got it:
http://origin.www.tvland.com/shows/simonsimon/images/shows/main_pic.gif Gerald McRaney as older brother Rick and Jameson Parker as A.J.

[Mysterious Mike]

/Simon and Simon threadjack/

Here (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0574468/) is the filmography for Gerald McRaney who played Hearst on Deadwood and played Rick Simon and here (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0662321/) is the filmography for Jameson Parker who played A.J. Simon.


There was an episode of Magnum PI that had Simon and Simon on it also , it had something to do with a voodoo statue


/ End of Simon and Simon threadjack/

[plokij]

There is no way the they know yet, unless they have some communications back to the base. And if it was to help Colleen, they would have Jack set up immediately. Also, Ben said that if he cooperates "when the time comes" he will be free. Thsi statement obviously shows that he will be needed in the future, not right away to help Colleen.

[flyinfreeee]

Jack will most likely be operating on Colleen, and this is possibly to be the reason that Ben came in to talk to Jack. Perhaps Ben is unsure whether Jack would help without a benefit for himself, so uses some propaganda (a video that most likely had been dropped down to the island, not specifically requested or streamed over the internet).

However, I dont believe this is the real reason, because im sure if ben knows jack as well as he wants jack to believe, then he will know that jack has a natural inclination to help people who are near-death, even without something as big as being allowed freedom.

I honestly dont see Jack being freed. That would mean they give up a main character OR we have lost set in the reality as-much as on the island (which I dont think is such a great idea until later, and just in small bits, like last seasons final episode)?

[BRENT89]

If she is still alive, Jack will go all out to save her as he always does.
What Ben wants from him, when the time is right, could be medicine related or not.
Maybe he'll be asked to give up the rest of the losties or give up the remaining weapons or give up Aaron. It seems to me though that Ben & Co. could accomplish all that without Jacks help. Which leads me to believe that Jacks task will be medical and "taken" children related.
Maybe Alex and Karl are approaching a stage of their lives when organ harvesting or tissue donation(involuntary) would be beneficial to the Others and Jack is the best candidate to carry this out. Something is wrong with the others and they are on a never ending quest for a FIX.
And who better to fix them than Dr. Jack Shepard?

[BBBF]

I predict that the deal Ben wants to make is something else, but when he gets the news of the woman being shot, he asks Jack to help and Jack gets the upper hand.

[Fierro]

There is no way the they know yet, unless they have some communications back to the base. And if it was to help Colleen, they would have Jack set up immediately. Also, Ben said that if he cooperates "when the time comes" he will be free. Thsi statement obviously shows that he will be needed in the future, not right away to help Colleen.

I totally agree. And besides, I'm pretty sure they already have doctors and surgeons in their community. Don't you remember Claire's kidnapping flashback?
But I'm almost sure that the reason they want Jack is for him to operate on someone else who has a spinal cord problem. Remember Jack may be worldwide known because of his miraculous success when he fixed Sarah.

[Frecklestoo]

It will be an interesting moral test for Jack. He's a doctor and I think they still take an oath to help. But, he's also pissed off at everyone in Others-land. I really think Jack will do the right thing, if Colleen has anything left to repair.

[TenmaNeko]

I think he'll do it. Hopefully though, he'll use the opportunity to get some straight answers from Ben.

[dp2]

I don't think it will even come up. It's hard to put my finger on, but the Others seem somewhat nonchalant about death. On the boat last episode, or when Sawyer (or was it Kate?) got one of their pursuers in the season finale -- any time there is death or even the threat of death, any Others in the area don't seem to be the least bit alarmed. And thinking back to how hard it was to kill Ethan -- basically, I don't think Colleen needs a doctor. I don't know exactly what's up with them, but either they really don't care about their fallen or death means something different to them, either philosophically or because of their physical nature.

[Fierro]

If The Others value human life and 'friendship' (like we are lead to believe after the way Ben attacked Ana Lucia), and they don't have another doctor around, Jack might have a chance to turn the tables around. At this point he may not give a damn about an other's life, so he might do a deal with Ben. 'I'll fix Colleen if you do this or that for me'. How's that for irony?


Maybe i just forgot but how did Ben know Anna Lucia killed Goodwin?

[John]

Maybe i just forgot but how did Ben know Anna Lucia killed Goodwin?

Either another Other was watching his brother and reported back, or Benry's Pearl 2.0 has a lot of conveniently placed cameras.

[Danielsam]

Jack will treat Colleen is she is treatable becasue it is his nature. Mr smooth talkin Benry has no right to insinuate that it is the losties fault for the trouble they find themselves in. He has always had an evil agenda. The others have killed, kidnapped, lied and decieved and the quicker the others realize this the better off they will be.

[I Like Freckles]

Why they do so and why the Others seem to not really care about their deaths is a great question.

I think the Others get downloaded to a resurrection ship docked somewhere offshore from Othertown when they die. They then come back in new bodies.










Oh. Wait. Apparently I've got BSG on the brain after catching up with the S1 & S2 DVDs over the summer. ;)

[John]

I think the Others get downloaded to a resurrection ship docked somewhere offshore from Othertown when they die. They then come back in new bodies.

:eek: That's it! The others aren't aliens, they're cylons!

[I Like Freckles]

Sadly, so far the female others aren't matching up to the Cylons hotness-wise.

[John]

How many Other models have we seen?

/threadjack

[lostchild]

I think we will see a healthy dose of 'Daddy' Danny Picket when the time comes for Jack to be saving Colleen

[Fierro]

Do you guys really think Jack is gonna save Colleen just like that??
These are the people that kidnapped Walt, Kate, Sawyer, Claire and Aaron, a whole bunch of tailies and Jack himself. I doubt he is gonna be so willing to help her. Like I said before, he will try to take advantage of this situation.

[rm4610]

I think Jack will be doing surgery on her.
He'll probably be doing surgery on her, and if she survives, it will be his first "living patient". Usually, he operates on you, you're a goner. He would do it though, no matter what, as others have pointed out. He has that whole hero complex, and I think he will also to demonstrate to us that he took his Hippocratic Oath seriously. I don't think that it will be a "test" since Colleen being shot was never in the original plans. (They were only supposed to get the boat and go)

[Tanatie]

I think he'd help her too...but maybe in exchange for something...

[Fierro]

Either another Other was watching his brother and reported back, or Benry's Pearl 2.0 has a lot of conveniently placed cameras.


Nevermind. I figured it out: CINDY

[Mysterious Mike]

Well Jack helped but no Jack fit as i suspected. He learned some key info from that X ray , that someone needs surgery for a spinal tumor. At first I thought they maybe the old guy's he operated on in season 2. Could that have been a test ?