P.R.I.C.K - The Official Paulo Hate Thread - President: JacksGirlfriend

[Found in the Land of Lost]

Paulo is a jerk and gets on my last nerve. Anybody else?

Paulo Reeks Idiomorphic Capric Kakidrosis
(a.k.a. Paulo reeks of a distinctive goat-like body odor)

Thanks Warty!

[LPU]

Heck yes! And apparently he stole the hairbrushes.

[OMG its LFG]

sign me the hell up

[Found in the Land of Lost]

True. He also stole airtime from characters we might actually be interested in hearing from.

[Hodgepodge]

Hasn't he had one spate of dialog? How can you hate someone that you've only seen twice? :confused:

[LPU]

I hate the fact that he was introduced in the first place. And you can already tell that he's just S1 Shannon with a wang-dang doodle. Fun.

[OMG its LFG]

omg he just sucks, do i need a reason hodge.

[Found in the Land of Lost]

Hasn't he had one spate of dialog? How can you hate someone that you've only seen twice? :confused:

Exactly. We've seen him twice and he irks me already, and I'm not easily irked! He comes across like a jerk without any inkling as to why, and it's not carried off in an interesting, lovable Sawyer jerk kind of way, just as really irritating. Who is he? Why should we care? What was even the point of that golf club dialogue, other than to shove some really irritating guy in our faces?

[Hodgepodge]

Exactly. We've seen him twice and he irks me already, and I'm not easily irked! He comes across like a jerk without any inkling as to why, and it's not carried off in an interesting, lovable Sawyer jerk kind of way, just as really irritating. Who is he? Why should we care? What was even the point of that golf club dialogue, other than to shove some really irritating guy in our faces?Looks like they may've found the Ana-Lucia of S3! Continue one Found in the Land of Lost. :Hippy:

[Smirnoff_Ice]

I know. Who the hell does he think he is?

[melanie]

Hasn't he had one spate of dialog? How can you hate someone that you've only seen twice? :confused:

When I've twice heard the actor described as a "Brazilian Tom Cruise", once by a friend FROM Brazil- on that occasion followed with "the girls really like it when he takes off his shirt" I KNOW it's going to be bad.

[Brian]

I saw it in the epi discussion thread and I'll repeat it here......Desmond should've taken that 5 iron upside Paulo's head. He's had all of 2 or 3 lines and I despise him. Yes, he's the Ana-Lucia of S3.

[Smirnoff_Ice]

It's never too early to start the hate.

[time is a river]

Gee whiz. Now I am feeling sorry for the guy. Maybe he is misunderstood.

[JacksGirlfriend]

Why didn't anyone tell me this was here?

I thought I was President of this group.

[LPU]

Well as President aren't you in charge of coming up with a clever acronymn?

[Brian]

:welcome: el presidente! :Cheers: ;)

[FireFly815]

His golf scene was totally useless. And don't get me started on his damn hair!

[vonnegut]

Yes, he's the Ana-Lucia of S3.

I can kind of see that... except he's not quite as manly.

[boonian androphile]

If you include loud-mouth Nikki and the writers who threw them both at the cameras, then let the hatred roll.:mad:

[island_maverick]

I saw it in the epi discussion thread and I'll repeat it here......Desmond should've taken that 5 iron upside Paulo's head. He's had all of 2 or 3 lines and I despise him. Yes, he's the Ana-Lucia of S3.A sand wedge would have been better.

And one has to wonder what irritating plot they are going to give this numpty.

[sirius14sho]

I'm just gunna repost this here.
I personally like the new characters. Or at least I'm gunna give them a chance to has some screen time before casting them off as bad seeds. I don't think Paulo was any more of a jerk than Saywer when asked for something. Give him a chance. He might just have a heart of gold just like our resident conman.

[lizarduckmonkey]

I'm in!

[TheBigCat]

"The Brazilian Tom Cruise" eh? I remember the last 2 Brasilianos who tried to make it big in America. Edson Nascimento AKA Pele and Carmen Miranda. Both faced a major fan backlash back home. Miranda gave a concert in Sao Paolo after spending two years making movies in Hollywood and the crowd boo'd her off. There was a referendum in the Brasilian Senate on finding a way to legally prevent Pele from playing soccer for any team not based in Brazil.

So you can understand why I am not exactly expecting a hugely positive response in the Official LOST in Brazil thread in GD-I.

[Found in the Land of Lost]

So, any good acronym ideas? The best I could come up with was P.I.P.I. (Paulo Is Perpetually Irritating), but it seems kind of short. Anyone?

[lizarduckmonkey]

I prefer short to long. I think it's perfect!

[island_maverick]

How about P.W.R.T.D.W.M.H.A.S.S.I.T.G

Paulo Was Rude To Desmond Which Makes Him A Slimey Snake In The Grass

Ok, too long perhaps.

[Found in the Land of Lost]

How about P.W.R.T.D.W.M.H.A.S.S.I.T.G

Paulo Was Rude To Desmond Which Makes Him A Slimey Snake In The Grass

Ok, too long perhaps.

Perhaps. ;)

He IS a slimy snake in the grass, though.....lol.

[Darkshines]

Don't Ever Shout at Main Occuring Natives Dumbass.....

[Warthawg1]

Exactly. We've seen him twice and he irks me already, and I'm not easily irked! He comes across like a jerk without any inkling as to why, and it's not carried off in an interesting, lovable Sawyer jerk kind of way, just as really irritating. Who is he? Why should we care? What was even the point of that golf club dialogue, other than to shove some really irritating guy in our faces?

The point of the golf club dialogue was to let Paulo grasp a club in both hands and put it unnaturally behind his head so little girls could see his sculpted upper body and biceps and therefore squee.

P.R.I.C.K

Paulo Reeks Idiomorphic Capric Kakidrosis

In other words... Paulo reeks of a distinctive goat-like body odor.

Sign 'em up.

[Found in the Land of Lost]

I knew I could count on you, Warty. ;)

*goes off to change thread title*

[LPU]

Definitely in.

[FireFly815]

count me in too! is there a hate nikki thread yet?

[Homer Noodleman]

I refuse to join P.R.I.C.K.

Paulo is just misunderstood.

[LPU]

Aren't you already an unofficial P.R.I.C.K., Homer?

[Found in the Land of Lost]

I refuse to join P.R.I.C.K.

Paulo is just misunderstood.


....or misdirected, or miscast, or maybe just wouldn't be missed. ;)

Only time will tell.....

[Smirnoff_Ice]

Yes! I'm glad to see things are coming along here. And Warty, I must congratulate you on your acronym on Paulo, it really speaks to me.

[boonian androphile]

PRICK is just a little harsh. I hate the introduction of the character more than the character himself. But that golf deal does not help his cause.:rolleyez:

[sirius14sho]

I refuse to join P.R.I.C.K.

Paulo is just misunderstood.
Right, hes only had line two lines.

[Warthawg1]

Right, hes only had line two lines.

Here are the only two lines important to me.

"Brazillian Tom Cruise"

"Golf scene"

[vonnegut]

Aren't you already an unofficial P.R.I.C.K., Homer?

:rotfl:

[SareBear00]

Oh, I am totally in on this!! I hate that guy, he is such a jerk!

[Mysterious Mike]

I'm joinig up because I frickin hate Paulo and I wish him death.

[*Saint*]

Sign me up!!!!

I was easy on AnaL because I could tolerate her in S2, she had a backstory and we were genuinely interested in finding out who from the tail end survived.

But now it's S3 and goddammit, we ALREADY have enough LOSTIES to care for...if I want new characters, give me new Others to introduce. HELL, why not show us some hidden Dharmites still in the jungle, that neither the Others or Losties know about. But how the hell do you expect loyal Lost-fans to give a damn about a guy that was introduced in S3 whining about JSK being abducted by Others.

Paulo, to YOU I ask this:

1. Where were you when Claire was taken?? Hiding in your makeshift tent?
2. Where were you when Boone died?? Do you not like the sight of blood?
3. Where were you when Michael, Sawyer, Jin and Walt sailed off to find survival??? Were you upset they didn't ask you aboard??
4. Where were you when Shannon died??? Again, afraid of blood?
5. Where were you when we met the tailies?? Are you anti-social? Don't like crowds??
6. Where were you when some of our Losties took up Hatch duty? Are you claustrophobic?? Confined spaces creep you out??
7. Where were you when the EMP went off? Did you run far, far away in hopes to save your life??

There have been many things that have happened to our Losties and I haven't seen that pesky Paulo there...and TPTB expect me to care???

Buh!!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[interplanetjanet]

I'm in.

Like Boonian, I'm mostly against the introduction we've seen, but as the most compelling plot presently circling them is either a) where'd they get a blowdryer? b) why haven't the losties noticed these obviously infiltrating others? I've accepted that the blue tarps were wrapped around a life supply of nair and conditioner, but their hair is just too good not to have just left otherville.

To those who say maybe he'll turn out like Sawyer--we have a Sawyer.

[MissRKO]

I already hate Paulo so much, he is such a moron.

[IwannaBlost]

I am in, I need to vent some hate and Paulo is a good enough PRICK for me.

[interplanetjanet]

The Nikki subdision could be No Yelling At Hurley.

Now I know what it was to be an early hater of Ana Lucia.

[Homer Noodleman]

I like the idea of two former redshirts, frozen out of the decision making by the cool kids, coming forward and muscling their way into the center of things.

If you had been on the island for 60 days, watching the in crowd bicker, hoard information about monsters and what-not, steal guns from each other and worse of all -- if you had to put up with Locke bellowing at you because you left a mess in the coffee area during your button shift -- wouldn't you be a little cranky towards them too?

About time somebody question the inept antics of the leadership group if'n you ask me. 'Course, these two are going to turn out to be crazy too... but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.

[Smirnoff_Ice]

I say we burn it down, instead.

[Andrew23]

I'm so amazed at the sheer amount of hate that's being directed towards a character that has hardly had ANY screen time whatsoever. Wtf is up with that!?!?!

[Smirnoff_Ice]

Is just one of those things. You just hate him. Don't ask, just show some hate.

[IwannaBlost]

When did hate require a reason?

[Smirnoff_Ice]

Never has, never will.

[foxxie]

I'm in...I don't like him...

That is all! :D

[Lab]

I'm sticking pins in my Paulo voodoo doll right now.

I'm in.

[lizarduckmonkey]

I hated Ana Lucia long before she showed up on screen!

[*Saint*]

I have a fierce burning passionate HATE towards Paulo.

...and I'm one of those sensitive actor-types. I don't want to necessarily put Rodrigo Santoro (whatever his name is) out of a job...but can't we transfer him to another show or something???? :mad:

[LandPirate]

i'm in.
.

[interplanetjanet]

About time somebody question the inept antics of the leadership group if'n you ask me. 'Course, these two are going to turn out to be crazy too... but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.
Challenging Locke last spring would have been great. Now that we have hope of exploring, rescuing, investigating, the idea of someone being added just to pitch a hissy fit is not alluring.
..and I'm one of those sensitive actor-types. I don't want to necessarily put Rodrigo Santoro (whatever his name is) out of a job...but can't we transfer him to another show or something????
Imagine if he'd been introduced as an other. He could have had that golf conversation with Pickett, instead of Desmond, and we would chortle gleefully. Not sure if we'd be rooting for Pickett or Paolo, but it wouldn't matter.

I don't hate the actor, I hate the character as introduced and presented so far. They've done a clumsy introduction, given him hair and clothes way better than everybody else who's been on that beach 2 months, and his (and Nikki's) role has been to snark at established and loved characters who've been trying to do something.

[JacksGirlfriend]

I'm sticking pins in my Paulo voodoo doll right now

I am hitting mine with a golf club.

(I can't believe no one is complaining about the name of this group)

[FireFly815]

I think it started for me when they introduced him as the Brazilian Tom Cruise (in recent times I would think this wouldn't be a compliment. Does he jump on couches on the Brazilian version of Oprah?)

His introduction on the show was the icing on the "hate cake" for me.

[Khan]

TPTB never learn, only AL generated this much hate in so a short time. They went for a name, again, and with the same misguided thought process figured if he was hot people would love him.
I don't like him either, but I'm wondering what bothers most of the people here, the hype, the attitude, the hair?

[JacksGirlfriend]

I don't like him either, but I'm wondering what bothers most of the people here, the hype, the attitude, the hair?

This doesn't have anything to do with the actor for me. It has to do with the decision to bring "extras" in who aren't and have never been extras. If they were planning to have some of the other passengers on the plane have more prominent roles as the seasons passed (which we BEGGED them to do from the beginning), then they should have prepared for this. If it was necessary to have a couple extra hotties, then they should have given them a little air time prior to this.

To have redshirts I've never seen before (cause they were never there) suddenly jump into the picture with the attitudes these two displayed wasn't a good judgment call. They should have been tossed in a few times before this.

Remember Buffy? They gradually introduced several characters throughout the years - background people, with names and attitudes etc. Larry the football player was one. He started out as background. We gradually learned his name was Larry, he was on the football team, he was a bully, he was gay, etc. He started getting more screen time. So when he died at the graduation, we were thoroughly familar with him. He was a redshirt in the truest sense of the word (dying in the background) but we cared about him. It was one of the greatest thing about Buffy. No detail was too small. Everything was important.

I thought it was that way with Lost too, but this little stunt was ridiculous.

This isn't about the man and woman behind Nikki and Paolo. This is about cheating on your characterization and not planning well enough. If they want to redeem these two in my eyes they're going to have to work pretty hard to do it.

[FireFly815]

TPTB never learn, only AL generated this much hate in so a short time. They went for a name, again, and with the same misguided thought process figured if he was hot people would love him.
I don't like him either, but I'm wondering what bothers most of the people here, the hype, the attitude, the hair?


I can only choose one? j/k! For me it is all three. I think the same was true for AL, but then again I didn't like her from the second I saw her at the end of season 1. I would have thought TPTB would have learned from that, but I guess not!
I personally had doubts when they said the Brazilian Tome Cruise would be joining the show. The introduction to him and Nikki was horrible and I think that just made my hate for both of them grow. I wasn't as skeptical with Nikki but wow was she annoying in her first line!

[FireFly815]

This doesn't have anything to do with the actor for me. It has to do with the decision to bring "extras" in who aren't and have never been extras. If they were planning to have some of the other passengers on the plane have more prominent roles as the seasons passed (which we BEGGED them to do from the beginning), then they should have prepared for this. If it was necessary to have a couple extra hotties, then they should have given them a little air time prior to this.

To have redshirts I've never seen before (cause they were never there) suddenly jump into the picture with the attitudes these two displayed wasn't a good judgment call. They should have been tossed in a few times before this.

They could have at least used people we have seen in the background before instead of introducing new characters again! They could have used Sceve and some others we have seen, not some entirely new people that we are supposed to believe have been here to whole time!

[Television]

For now i'm just going to say he sucks. Things could go either way.

[Khan]

This doesn't have anything to do with the actor for me. It has to do with the decision to bring "extras" in who aren't and have never been extras. If they were planning to have some of the other passengers on the plane have more prominent roles as the seasons passed (which we BEGGED them to do from the beginning), then they should have prepared for this. If it was necessary to have a couple extra hotties, then they should have given them a little air time prior to this.
To have redshirts I've never seen before (cause they were never there) suddenly jump into the picture with the attitudes these two displayed wasn't a good judgment call. They should have been tossed in a few times before this.

One of my first posts on the in the old forum was about the Redshirts. I knew they couldn't be featured, but at least they could be normal humans. It would not have taken much to give them a voice if only through the main characters relating what they were saying.
I know nothing of these actors, the Brazilian Tom Cruise thing did bother me, because I thought it would be all about hype and they'd rely on that rather than solid writing and careful characterizations.
There were a number of hotties already wandering in the background, I noticed one particular goodlooking tall guy in season one. Okay, so maybe some of them can't act, but did they even try? I doubt it, they spent money on a name to make money by increasing the ratings.
Now it remains to be seen if these are the only two Redshirts who will turn human or if they'll just become main characters and the rest will still behave like cows in the pasture.

[IwannaBlost]

To have redshirts I've never seen before (cause they were never there) suddenly jump into the picture with the attitudes these two displayed wasn't a good judgment call. They should have been tossed in a few times before this.


Agreed and :worshippy to my President!!!!!!

[qch13]

I saw it in the epi discussion thread and I'll repeat it here......Desmond should've taken that 5 iron upside Paulo's head. He's had all of 2 or 3 lines and I despise him. Yes, he's the Ana-Lucia of S3.
I agree 100% let's just hope Michael comes back for Vincent and shoots Paulo several times before he goes again.

[Khan]

So far it seems the two biggest reasons for hating him has been his introduction and his attitude.
But how can the introduction be overcome? It's too late now, and it looks like we're stuck since anyone they spent time and money in promoting him it's likely they want to keep for awhile.
His attitude is what grates on my nerves I haven't put my finger on exactly what about it bothers me and I can't see the purpose for it. He's only been there for what, three minutes? So it's too early to see where they're going with him, but can't see any reason for male Shannon with a snide stuck-up rich boy demeanor. She was whiney, childish and self-absorbed but he seems to be looking down his nose at the world because he's so far above everyone.

[Smirnoff_Ice]

Why can't they all just toss him into the ocean?

[???]

I'm so in. He was rude to Des. Grrrrr...

Can anyone post a picture of him? I can't remember what he looks like.

ETA: Merry's sig, the perfect thing to give to Paulo:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/merryslug/Smileys/error5.jpg

[Homer Noodleman]

I think his attitude is necessary for an odd little twist they seem to be doing.

I doubt was a mistake that Locke's introduction this season invoked Jack's introduction in the pilot episode. He woke up in the bush, turned his attention to an injured castaway and then assumed the leadership role with his little comforting speech at then end. With Kate captured, Sun ends up sliding into the role of the woman with some nasty secrets in her past and a tendency to tell lies. Heck, she even ends up with a dead boyfriend in her past when Jae plops onto Jin's hood.

They needed a Season One Sawyer -- a selfish person with a chip on his shoulder. They've just introduced him.

Nikki is just a replacement hottie because of all the women they've slaughtered off (I wonder how much of an extra pay raise Lilly's agent squeezed out of them over that screw-up), and who knows -- maybe she's there to play the role that Libby was intended to fill.

Was their introduction clumsy? Yea, but it was the best they could do. A number of us have been mocking them since season one for not fleshing out the redshirts as anything but yokels hauling bits of metal around in the background. Artz looked like he might an attmept to correct that, but sadly they blew him up and never made further efforts along that line (think if he was still around -- they could have introduced the two through him). I think that if, unlike Michelle, these two can act better than a chunk of plywood, then they'll be ok additions.

BTW -- Juliet is just what Ana Lucia was intended to be last season -- a wedge between Kate and Jack. They're trying to do something with the development of these characters. What? I dunno...

[JacksGirlfriend]

let's just hope Michael comes back for Vincent and shoots Paulo several times before he goes again

I would die laughing.

So, Homer, if Nikki is there to fulfill Libby's role, does she go after Hurley now?

[Homer Noodleman]

No, I don't think so. Although I would watch for somebody who is going to manipulate Hurely's trusting nature for their own agenda.

I think they're resetting some of the themes they wanted to move forward with in Season Two. It has crossed my mind that Libby may have been the woman intended to slip into Kate's role when she got kidnapped. Who knows?

[Mysterious Mike]

Nikki + Paulo = Coy and Vance Duke but with worse introductions.




They had their chance to add as many to the group as they wanted in season 2 but chose to kill most of them and kidnap the others. I would have even accepted a random red shirt for the tail section showing up explaining how he escaped from the others and Bernard or Eko recognize him and vouch for his story of being on the plane but the idea that there was two red shirted characters that we just happen to never see is stupid and they should have realized their hard core audience would take issue.


IMO there was already enough storyline without these two dolts and if they get a flashback I will be really upset.

[Khan]

I can get over thier introduction, to me it's too late and unless they were to hire some of actors we've seen wandering around it's going to be new faces filling those bright shirts. I wish they would, but they are bent and determined to go for names, it's the demographic, ratings game they're playing and that's not likely to change.
They thought AL would be like Sawyer (they said it enough), hated at first but becoming loved in time. They may be trying that with Paulo, as Homer said he has chip on his shoulder. They may be attempting to recreate the cool, smart mouthed outsider who'll be sexy enough to capture the female fans. He'll have a different style of course, but I think that could be what they're going for in a new form.

[JacksGirlfriend]

They may be attempting to recreate the cool, smart mouthed outsider who'll be sexy enough to capture the female fans.

That scares me. If they're looking for a Sawyer replacement, someone is going to have to answer for that.

[TalkingToTheMoon]

Ok, so I am late to the party. Can I still come in? Just please don't tell the ladies at the Sipping Tea and Sewing Bee klatch that I joined a PRICK club!

TTTM
:coffeedunk:

[interplanetjanet]

Now it remains to be seen if these are the only two Redshirts who will turn human or if they'll just become main characters and the rest will still behave like cows in the pasture.
You've hit on one of my problems with them--these two are set to be main characters (I know this from spoilers, and Paolo's talk with Des, Nikki's presence in promo pics, make that clear). I had a lot of objections to the season 2 treatment of the redshirts; if their response is to have two "redshirts" splatted over the screen like linguine with good hair, while the rest meander silently in the background, they've completely missed my point.

They said they planned to have redshirts "emerge from the background." To do that, they must BE in the background, if not forever, then for a couple of episodes. In the miniseason they should have had background shots leading to a couple of lines, maybe emerging a bit more by the last episode to spike speculation for the hiatus. The way they've been handled (including the really good hair) makes it almost impossible to view them as "redshirts emerging from the background."

That scares me. If they're looking for a Sawyer replacement, someone is going to have to answer for that.
We have a Sawyer. We don't need someone "like Sawyer." Similarly, we had Shannon; I really liked her; now she's dead. Introducing a new female with good hair and shorts and a generally confrontational attitude is NOT bringing back Shannon, and it will backfire. You liked Shannon? Shouldn't have killed her.
Maybe they took the zombie thing too seriously?

[interplanetjanet]

TTTM, any enemy of Paolo's is a friend of ours.

In the season 1 dvds (I'm assuming this is so long ago I can bring it up) Josh Holloway mentioned watching the premiere and figuring he was going to be the first to die. Which is a good read--that smart mouth role often provides dramatic tension while the hero is getting background exposition; then he's polar bear meat. He built the role into something else. (Jack behaving like an idiot for much of season 2, Locke too, certainly helped that along.)

Introducing intended loong-term people as really annoying is risky. Just enjoy the hit you had with Sawyer. People intended to fill short term roles can be annoying.

Almost everyone was really excited by Michael Emerson, even if no one clamored to have him emerge shirtless from the sea more often.

Eko made a great first impression--scary, intimidating, then you saw him as more compassionate, and the only one who respected Ana but wasn't intimidated by her. Libby was a background tailie until 48 Days, when she showed interesting spark/attitude/background; same with Cindy to a lesser degree.

These two could have been tailies who escape at the end with whatever of JKS get away; they could tell the tale of what the others want with the kidnappees.

To come from the background, they need to be offering to help, like Arzt. Oh, Paolo was a surveyor and can help get a map of these places we need to find? Good, we can tolerate a bit of attitude while he helps Sayid; let's see if he develops.

[TalkingToTheMoon]

TTTM, any enemy of Paolo's is a friend of ours.
Thanks. btw:There isn't a circle of tea sipping little old ladies on the planet who wouldn't run screaming if I joined their club. ;)

TTTM
:D

[Khan]

The number of posts and hits this thread has had is facinating and it's clear they keep on eye on the publics reations to thier characters, so I think Paulo hate will be noticed.
Last year when AL caused a huge uproar early on, they hastily tried to correct the main problems the views had with her. They had huge problem, thier plot involved her being contentious but they wrote her lethally nasty, so there was no way to bring out the harder elements of her personality without making matters worse.
Now they're a similar situation with Paulo and he hasn't been on screen a long as Kate's horse was. So is he snarky in attempt to recreate Sawyer? Or is it essential to the plot like AL's attitude? So far most of the posts I've read indicate people have problems his introduction, his attitude, or resent the presence of any new Lostie.They can't change the introduction, the most they can do is give Nikki and Paulo an Island flashback to make it seem like they were there.
If they're trying to replace Sawyer it won't happen, people would prefer someone with thier own ways and charms and resent clones.
If his snippy ways are part of the storyline than they have some serious work ahead to make to him acceptible. AL derailed a whole season so they'd need to get on it and do better this time. It would be nice if they catch thier mistake quickly, throw the monster a snack and let one of the real Redshirts complete plot. They could even use one of the main characters unless they have other things planned for them.
BTW I'd love to join this club, but I have no room left in my sig.

[Homer Noodleman]

You misunderstood me. I didn't mean they were replacing Sawyer, I meant that it seems that to varying degrees Locke, Sun and I suspect Paulo are stepping into roles that Jack, Kate and Sawyer played in Seasons I and II. This is happening while Kate, Jack and Sawyer are all progressing to different points in their character development.

As an example: Season One Kate, in Born to Run, tried to poison her way onto the raft to continue her flight. This was done in the context of her flashback, where she left her childhood sweetheart bleeding to death in the car as she bolted from it. Contrast that to last episode's Kate who climbed back into the cage rather than leave Sawyer and Jack. So Sun isn't replacing Kate, she's flowing into a vacuum left when Kate's character progressed to her next waypoint.

Why they would be doing that, if they're even doing it, I don't know. However, it sure does seem to me like they are stirring the pot with the roles the characters are playing. For example, at the start of the last episode they did the camera spin while Desmond was sitting and watching Claire that they've done twice with Locke. I dunno, maybe I'm imagining things...

Juliet/Nikki may be stepping into the Ana/Libby roles to push the story forward along a line that is important to them. Just a guess.

[Khan]

If you addressing my post Homer I didn't think you meant Sawyer was being replaced by your remarks.
It's been something I've discussed with other Lost fans and it fit the flow of the last few posts. Replaced was only one thing we thought they might be up to and by recreating him, I mean they might try the same formula that worked before. They seem to like the idea of the smartass outsider hated but in the end loved. And sometimes they out of thier way to generate the hate.
He's clearly there for sex appeal, but if they want him to be a success he needs to his blaze his own path, not be another character repackaged with a few new twists to make him seem different.
I'm really going to put thought into your observation that they're replacing characters in the sense that as they grow and change they're keeping important parts of thier persona alive by having others continue in thier stead.

[LAH LAH]

Paulo...must...go...Nikki next...

[The Life of Riley]

This doesn't have anything to do with the actor for me. It has to do with the decision to bring "extras" in who aren't and have never been extras. If they were planning to have some of the other passengers on the plane have more prominent roles as the seasons passed (which we BEGGED them to do from the beginning), then they should have prepared for this. If it was necessary to have a couple extra hotties, then they should have given them a little air time prior to this.

To have redshirts I've never seen before (cause they were never there) suddenly jump into the picture with the attitudes these two displayed wasn't a good judgment call. They should have been tossed in a few times before this.

I agree. They weren't introduced as redshirts, they were introduced as main characters. It didn't do anything to bridge the gap between the main Losties and the redshirts because they went from NOT EXISTING to having speaking parts and being listed in the credits with no stops in between. TPTB aren't featuring redshirts, they're adding new main characters to an already huge cast.




(And by the way, I'm also a huge Buffy fan!)

[JacksGirlfriend]

Re: The Sawyer/Paulo connection

It scares me because if they are toying with the idea of killing off Sawyer and replacing him with a Sawyer wannabe, it's going to backfire immensely. If Sawyer has to die (which could possibly make sense in the scheme of things - I see a big heroic ending for him), then it's best to leave the void of his lost personality. The worst possible thing they could do is try to have someone step into his shoes.

[LPU]

I personally don't see a Sawyer/Paulo connection. Paulo is far closer to a Shannon so maybe they'll kill him early too.

[Hodgepodge]

This doesn't have anything to do with the actor for me. It has to do with the decision to bring "extras" in who aren't and have never been extras. If they were planning to have some of the other passengers on the plane have more prominent roles as the seasons passed (which we BEGGED them to do from the beginning), then they should have prepared for this. If it was necessary to have a couple extra hotties, then they should have given them a little air time prior to this.

To have redshirts I've never seen before (cause they were never there) suddenly jump into the picture with the attitudes these two displayed wasn't a good judgment call. They should have been tossed in a few times before this...

You've hit on one of my problems with them--these two are set to be main characters (I know this from spoilers, and Paolo's talk with Des, Nikki's presence in promo pics, make that clear). I had a lot of objections to the season 2 treatment of the redshirts; if their response is to have two "redshirts" splatted over the screen like linguine with good hair, while the rest meander silently in the background, they've completely missed my point.

They said they planned to have redshirts "emerge from the background." To do that, they must BE in the background, if not forever, then for a couple of episodes. In the miniseason they should have had background shots leading to a couple of lines, maybe emerging a bit more by the last episode to spike speculation for the hiatus. The way they've been handled (including the really good hair) makes it almost impossible to view them as "redshirts emerging from the background."...This is where I'm having a problem with these newbies as well. I'm trying to remember how many Redshirts Clayseason1 has named and numbered, but I'm sure TPTB could've picked someone we've seen. And it comes down to how these particular cast members look. And that sticks in my craw! :mad:

It's been mentioned in several posts. These are supposedly beautiful people. The great hair! People who they can put between some of the main characters as love interests. That's the whole thing behind S3. They've said it more than once.

[Homer Noodleman]

I'll try to put up, as well as I can, with the way that Nikki (huba-huba) looks. It's a tough job, but somebody has to do it.

[Khan]

I'm sure there were some goodlooking Redshirts in the last two seasons , I know I saw some very hot guys.
It's not just about looks, they wanted name recognition and hopefully bring in some of the new actors fans.

[JacksGirlfriend]

All twelve of them? Up until the last few weeks I'd never heard of either of them. A regular redshirt would have done me fine - or better.

[Khan]

No just Paulo and Nikki. I would have preferred one of the real Redshirts too.
It would have been a wonderful twist if they had used them, and gave us an Island flashback or two, showing how the Redshirts reacted when the big things we've seen were happening.
They still might do something like that with P&N.

[JacksGirlfriend]

It would have been a wonderful twist if they had used them, and gave us an Island flashback or two, showing how the Redshirts reacted when the big things we've seen were happening.

That would have been awesome. If TPTB are clever enough to do something like that I might actually forgive them a little. That would be interesting and show at least a semblance of planning on their part.

It won't make me like Nikki and Paulo (cause I still resent their sudden addition), but it would be a good plot and characterization device - watching the redshirts watch the leaders. It might give us a different perspective on our crew.

[Khan]

Since the dead keeps popping up on Lost, Artz could be in the flashback. I believe they'll do it, especially if they keep hearing how the sudden appearance of the new ones caused so much trouble, and who knows, one of the bovines grazing in the background might say something other than moo.

[Found in the Land of Lost]

It would have been a wonderful twist if they had used them, and gave us an Island flashback or two, showing how the Redshirts reacted when the big things we've seen were happening.
They still might do something like that with P&N.

That would have been awesome. If TPTB are clever enough to do something like that I might actually forgive them a little. That would be interesting and show at least a semblance of planning on their part.

It won't make me like Nikki and Paulo (cause I still resent their sudden addition), but it would be a good plot and characterization device - watching the redshirts watch the leaders. It might give us a different perspective on our crew.

You may be pleasantly surprised because:


In the latest podcast, TPTB confirm that this is exactly what they plan to do.

[Khan]

Damn I'm on it sometimes.(sorry a small pat on the back)
I don't bother with Podcasts, it's easier to read thier ramblings in spoilers, but haven't read that one yet.

[Found in the Land of Lost]

Damn I'm on it sometimes.(sorry a small pat on the back)
I don't bother with Podcasts, it's easier to read thier ramblings in spoilers, but haven't read that one yet.

Yeah, that's how I do it too. I read the podcast thread on Tuesdays. ;)

Oh, and good call....

[mrspeepers]

Woo! My new favorite thread!!!!

[mrspeepers]

I hate the fact that he was introduced in the first place. And you can already tell that he's just S1 Shannon with a wang-dang doodle. Fun.

Nice imagery. I like it.

[cinderellabop]

OK, I'm officially in now. Although, I think I hate Nikki more...

[carmela]

After tonight's episode, I want to join. Why the attitude on him? And the most he can contribute is to use the bathroom? TPTB have to realize that he is becoming AL2.

[Homer Noodleman]

Nikki and Paulo were both highly entertaining characters. Nikki is bright, brash and a bit pushy, while Paulo is a bit of a twit and a dandy. So far I think they are good additions to the mix.

[boonian androphile]

Homer, did we watch the same episode?

Nikki was a lethal mixture of high-pitched irritation, sudden knowledge of ways of all Lost, and poor acting in general, that I wish Smokie had bashed her against the ground and put us out of misery. Paulo showed a little more skill by not talking nearly as much---except to notify everyone that the pearl toilet remains functional. These two are useless and need to depart. The only justice is if they could have gone in Eko's place. :mad:

[Homer Noodleman]

Er... all the castaways are pretty much useless. I'm under the impression that eing a pretty looking, self-absorbed nut was pretty much a prerequisite for boarding that plane.

The amazing thing in the episode is the large number of them that tore themselves away from eating fruit salads on the beach to go look for somebody who disappeared. I had to suspend my disbelief to buy into that. ;)

ETA: of course she knows what's going on with the castaways. She is one. Jeebus people, this is a TV show not a documentary. Don't let the fact these two weren't wandering around in the background for two seasons overcome your common sense. I don't recall all this "red shirt purity" when Artz showed up waving his arms and babbling about monsoons.

[lizarduckmonkey]

I don't recall all this "red shirt purity" when Artz showed up waving his arms and babbling about monsoons.

At least he had a legitimate reason to show up and not because he was a "pretty boy", and it was pretty clear that they weren't planning on making him a part of the regular cast. Besides, watching him explode was quite amusing.

These two are completely useless.

[Found in the Land of Lost]

At least he had a legitimate reason to show up and not because he was a "pretty boy", and it was pretty clear that they weren't planning on making him a part of the regular cast. Besides, watching him explode was quite amusing.

These two are completely useless.

That is, unless we get to see them explode. ;)

[lizarduckmonkey]

Oh, that would be mighty fun! http://smilies.vidahost.com/ups/chaos99/greensplode.gif

[JacksGirlfriend]

Artz was introduced WAY earlier than this and had a real function.

Nikki is bright, brash and a bit pushy

A BIT pushy? I don't mind that she decided to go along on the expedition and the line they used was even kind of cute, but I still don't care for her.

Is Paulo the new Charlie? He seems to have a fixation with bathrooms as well. Last I looked we already had a Charlie. How am I ever going to get back to disliking Charlie with these two around?

[cinderellabop]

Someone as pushy and annoying as Nikki would surely have made herself known long before now.

Paolo is just useless.

[interplanetjanet]

Nikki has possibility. I will confess the Daphne-Velma hybrid role is open, and she seems to be making it her own. She's no Arzt, though.

Paolo is here to flush the toilet? He took this role willingly?

[Homer Noodleman]

Paolo is just useless.

That's his charm.

[Khan]

If Lost was a beautiful person, than Paulo would be the big hairy mole on it's nose to set it apart from the other beautiful people? Is that the kind of uselessness that lends the charm you're referring to Homer?

[Warthawg1]

Paolo is here to flush the toilet? He took this role willingly?

Well he is the Brazillian Tom Cruise. Maybe it was the only role that anyone would offer? Plus, let's all remember the importance of the "do the losties use the bathroom?" question. Maybe they convinced him he was the only actor that could reveal to the public that which they demand.

[JacksGirlfriend]

Someone as pushy and annoying as Nikki would surely have made herself known long before now.


No kidding. She should have timidly stepped forward and said "I'd like to go if you don't mind." Now THAT'S a character I could have accepted. And what's wrong with having another character who's actually sweet? Absolutely nothing. So why didn't we get a real person instead of this one?

[interplanetjanet]

Well he is the Brazillian Tom Cruise. Maybe it was the only role that anyone would offer? Plus, let's all remember the importance of the "do the losties use the bathroom?" question. Maybe they convinced him he was the only actor that could reveal to the public that which they demand.

I know you eagerly await episode 9, Paolo runs from otherville to the tail crash site in 42 minutes.

[Warthawg1]

I know you eagerly await episode 9, Paolo runs from otherville to the tail crash site in 42 minutes.


I like how you think.

[JacksGirlfriend]

If they turn out to be Others I might reconsider my harsh criticism.

[The Life of Riley]

At first, I thought Nikki's line about "You're always whining about never being included" was good because it addressed the segregation of the redshirts, but I don't think it made sense with the way Paolo has been characterized. I don't see a guy who was playing golf the last time we saw him caring so much about not being included. All this dude cared about was that the toilet still worked! I don't think Paolo even realizes he's on craphole island. He thinks he's at a resort!

[Smirnoff_Ice]

Thank God he's finally listed seperately. It makes him a hell of a lot easier to find and complain about.

[JacksGirlfriend]

Thank God he's finally listed seperately. It makes him a hell of a lot easier to find and complain about.


It does, doesn't it? And I was against having this forum.

[Khan]

At first, I thought Nikki's line about "You're always whining about never being included" was good because it addressed the segregation of the redshirts, but I don't think it made sense with the way Paolo has been characterized. I don't see a guy who was playing golf the last time we saw him caring so much about not being included. All this dude cared about was that the toilet still worked! I don't think Paolo even realizes he's on craphole island. He thinks he's at a resort!
That reminds of a theory I've been chewing on. At first I thought it was Nikki and Paulo taking the place of AL and Eko, but they planned a whole season story arc last year with AL coming in between Kate,Saywer and Jack.
I'm thinking AL was meant to team up with Sawyer near the season's end and be a part of the gun stealing business. His speech on the beach that night flows with what they said AL would do, become a rival leader. Sawyer was fed up with Jack, and would have sought revenge, AL wanted power, it makes sense they'd get together and tilt the balance of power.
Paulo's sarcastic remarks, his way of appearing separate from the rest of the camp more and more makes me think that he is meant to be Sawyer like.

[Found in the Land of Lost]

You know, it's gotta be tough when a person's only positive (fan club) thread is titled "(Name of person) Not So Bad?"

;)

[JacksGirlfriend]

I totally agree. It's almost insane.

[carmela]

You just hope that TPTB are "hearing" these complaints about him and attempt to either resurrect his character soon or kill him off. This is AL all over again.

[Khan]

I don't see him as AL yet ,he's been snide and annoying, but they seem to been going after the cool outsider persona, and failing because it takes serious talent and charm to make that work. Otherwise you just come of as a self-centered asshat.

[JacksGirlfriend]

Otherwise you just come of as a self-centered asshat.

I'm still waiting for the charm to kick in. I'll let you know if it does. I'm not afraid to admit mistakes, although I don't think I'll be admitting anything here.

[StandbyPassenger]

I agree that Paulo was forced on us like unwanted love. He has shown no real interest in getting involved, unless you consider his deposit into the Pearl station as his "significant contribution".

[Khan]

Maybe we should give the guy a break, at least he's discovered to only known working toilet on the Island. Of course you'd have to pack for a days hike, get past wild boar, polar bears and possibly a man killing cloud of smoke to use it, but if you have to go .....

[sawyerhasbestlines]

Here are the only two lines important to me.

"Brazillian Tom Cruise"

"Golf scene"

There is only room in LOST for one bad acting version of Tom Cruise. *insert cousin Ethan*. And the island has its version scientologist-like dharma cult hippies.

Which leaves Paolo demise to mimic that of Arst: Pieces Of Paolo. P.O.P

[boonian androphile]

a penny for a spool of thread
a penny for an apollo
thats the way the money goes
P.O.P. goes the Paolo.

i like it...:)

[Hodgepodge]

...Which leaves Paolo demise to mimic that of Arst: Pieces Of Paolo. P.O.P:rotfl::rotfl: I love this SHBL! P.O.P.= Pieces of Paulo! :rotfl::rotfl:

[JacksGirlfriend]

So we're saying Paulo should explode...

Works for me!

[Brian]

Only if it's very slow, and very painful......just like the character.

[Smirnoff_Ice]

I don't care, I just don't want to see him again. Why couldn't it have been simple and he could have fallen off the ladder climbing to to The Pearl and died?

[JacksGirlfriend]

Cause none of us would have cried?

[TalkingToTheMoon]

Pieces Of Paolo. P.O.P

:rotfl: :Cheers:



After the last episode I may have to start yet another club, F.L.U.S.H (Foppy Looser Under Stupid Hair). Paulo is such a looser!

As much as the dorky introduction of the newbies was, I was holding on to a sliver of hope that they would turn into interesting characters, who would add to he show. So far they have added nothing, and instead are in the way. ALL of their lines would have been much better delivered by any number of the original cast members.

Nikki's smart ass comments, and know it all attitude was particularly out of place. And Paulo's two claims to fame -- hitting mangos with a stick, and using the bathroom -- are good tricks... for a 2 year old.

TTTM

[Found in the Land of Lost]

Hopefully since next week is a Kate epi, we won't have to suffer through their presence until after the mini-hiatus.

[lizarduckmonkey]

I hope Eko was referring to Paulo being "next".

[sawyerhasbestlines]

The problem with Paolo is his character hasn't brought anything to the show. It would have been better for example, if we found out he was the guy responsible for the signal fire, or he had been working on some useful project the whole time.

TPTB got lazy with their handling of Nikki and Paolo, as if they thought their looks were enough - their intro doesn't further the plot.

[JacksGirlfriend]

It would have been better for example, if we found out he was the guy responsible for the signal fire, or he had been working on some useful project the whole time.

That would have taken about 5 minutes of thought - obviously we can't have that. I would have been happy to see them scavenging through electronics, preparing food, anything. There better be a big payoff to these two somewhere down the line.

F.L.U.S.H. - that was cute.

[melanie]

I don't have anything to add that hasn't been said...just another # to the hate group...dear lord...Both of them...WHAT is their purpose here? They're less valuable than even Shannon ever was. There's got to be some BIG plan underworks here- or THEY are the "jump the shark" thing as far as I"M concerned. "Add a bunch of retards and see if the fans'll stick with us through the break , guys!!!!". Add my roomie in, too...he's the one with the purchasing power- he just doesn't post on the boards....

WTF? The bathroom works"? "I make Locke feel like a dumb dumb head"? COME ON....

They're not even CUTE. I was at least looking forward to CUTE....

[Khan]

So we're saying Paulo should explode...

Works for me!
Come on Paulo can't explode, they'll be digging hair out of thier fruit salad for weeks, yeech.

[amazingfan92]

Paulo is an idiot

[JacksGirlfriend]

If you think that, you've come to the right place.

[interplanetjanet]

Come on Paulo can't explode, they'll be digging hair out of thier fruit salad for weeks, yeech.

Bernard will kill Paolo, thereby justifying the entire tailie plot line even though everyone seated in that part of the plane is now missing or dead.

It's his destiny. :bullwhip: :celebrate

[sawyerhasbestlines]

In the absence of any meaning or purpose to Paolo, I invented one myself today to fill the void.

I decided Paolo *should have been* a Brazilian soccor player. And his backstory should have been that he was kidnapped for ransom money and was on the plane returning after his ransom was paid. And later in a flashback we would find a connection to one of the Losties... like maybe Hibbs was part of the set up for the kidnapping, or Hurley owned the team, etc.

Plot #2 was that he was a Brazilian soccor player, playing for an Australian team and being traded to an American. At least then we could have seen him kicking coconuts around the island in the background with the red shirts before he was introduced.

[boonian androphile]

Paolo could start up a soccer team, a rival to golf for those more active sorts. I see a sports complex in their future. Amex Stadium!

[sawyerhasbestlines]

I'd rather see him kicking around coconuts in the background, than golfing and talking in the foreground. :coffeedunk:

Do we need a poll of how long till Paolo gets his drunk driving on Hawaii, and what his death scene will be?

My guess: 7 episodes, drunk driving, death scene involves a toilet or a shark or both.

[JacksGirlfriend]

My guess: 8 episodes. Drunk driving/resisting arrest. Charlie throws a golf club in frustration and hits Paulo in the head.

[JacksGirlfriend]

Oh and I think Paulo is the "Brazilian Tom Cruise" and Nikki was his publicist. They had just finished a movie in Australia and were going to America to hit the talk show circuit.

(I had them as models earlier, but I've changed my mind)

[sawyerhasbestlines]

My guess: 8 episodes. Drunk driving/resisting arrest. Charlie throws a golf club in frustration and hits Paulo in the head.

Lol. I like it, seems fitting that Charlie should be the one responsible for his demise.

[JacksGirlfriend]

Charlie probably has issues at this point. At least when people were hating him, they were paying attention to him.

Plus he's a homicidal maniac. Ethan proved that.

[Homer Noodleman]

By five episodes Paolo will be sooo popular with the fans (I hear is the Brazillian Tom Cruise) that they'll have to cut back on Sawyer's screen time to give him more. http://jazzopolis.com/pix/bong.gif

[boonian androphile]

Paolo and Nikki will die together. And more immediately together than Ana Lucia and Libby. They will test too many gagdets in the Eye Patch Man's hatch and cause that hatch to blow up too (hopefully). These two will not escape because Paolo will be too mesmerized by the full length mirror and Nikki will be too busy talking on the phone. The Eye Patch Man's hatch will have a phone. Why didnt the Swan?:confused:

[Khan]

Please excuse the interruption.
*Whacks Homer*
Please resume the Paulo death scene conversation.

[Ida Monster]

<threadjack>
Play the game over in the Arcade forum!:
The Game of Clue: How Paulo And Nikki will be killed off the show. (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27304)
</threadjack>

[Ida Monster]

Maybe we should give the guy a break, at least he's discovered to only known working toilet on the Island. Of course you'd have to pack for a days hike, get past wild boar, polar bears and possibly a man killing cloud of smoke to use it, but if you have to go .....
Ha! With the discovery of this toilet he has signed his own death warrant!
I believe this is the same toilet Nathan found when he went missing for two hours. Look what happened to him.. Goodwin snapped his neck.
The Others will protect their most valuable asset to the end.

[JacksGirlfriend]

These two will not escape because Paolo will be too mesmerized by the full length mirror and Nikki will be too busy talking on the phone. The Eye Patch Man's hatch will have a phone. Why didnt the Swan?

Too cute.

And you're right about the toilet - that could be foreshadowing.

[Television]

Sign me up I hate the pair of them Paulo and Nikki both are stealing Frogurts airtime.

[Maxwell Edison]

I predict that the cliffhanger will feature Paulo, waterskis, and a shark... with Nikki driving the boat...

[Leia Amos]

Funny thing happened to Paulo here (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1087210&postcount=1966).

Wanna 'hear' a good joke? Doc Giggles/Tresemme. Click here (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1087676&postcount=1968).

Made me :rotfl:MAO!

[Warthawg1]

What's bad is that in reaction to all of the "they serve no purpose" comments; the LOST PTB creative team is going to try and give them purpose...

Which is only going to make it worse. Much...much...much worse.

[Found in the Land of Lost]

What's bad is that in reaction to all of the "they serve no purpose" comments; the LOST PTB creative team is going to try and give them purpose...

Which is only going to make it worse. Much...much...much worse.


Oh, please no.

That is, unless their "purpose" is Smokie Chow.

[Khan]

Don't count on Smokie eating them, whenever TPTB go out of thier way to hype new people they mean to use them, only extreme hate such as that directed at AL can make them change thier minds. Even then they've proven that they're willing to waste episode after episode in an attempt to get the viewers to accept thier new characters.
Maybe I'm being pessimistic, it could be they've learned thier lesson after S2's debacles.

[JacksGirlfriend]

extreme hate such as that directed at AL can make them change thier minds

This is going to take legal intervention.

[Brian]

Maybe I'm being pessimistic, it could be they've learned thier lesson after S2's debacles.

:rotfl: If that was the case, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. ;)

[Khan]

That's true. With all of thier money and all of the money at stake you'd think they'd hire one person with common sense who's job is just to keep them grounded and real.
Someone who gets to sit in on all of the meetings and has the right to smack them in the head to reset thier stupid buttons to prevent some of these dumbass moves.

[JacksGirlfriend]

Someone who gets to sit in on all of the meetings and has the right to smack them in the head to reset thier stupid buttons to prevent some of these dumbass moves

Can I have that job?

[interplanetjanet]

I had to go back and figure out why Khan wanted Hurley's job, or should-be job....

In real life, a fan of average cluefullness would be a bonus--if not to balance the creative powers, to balance the "we'll save 0.0002% of the budget if the background people never speak or do anything signficant" powers. (That is, I'm seeing problems more along the lines of "we need someone hot" and similar memos than central story problems.)

The creative powers could use someone along the lines of some writers' spouses: that's very nice dear, but haven't you completely forgotten about X?

[LPU]

Least Nikki could have done would have been to light a match. Man these two are bad.

[LOST_523]

Brother, sign me up. God I hate Paulo. He needs to be eaten by smokie. soon. I like Nikki. She's hot.

[JacksGirlfriend]

There's a Nikki fan club in her forum.

[LPU]

So what stunning achievement will Paulo pull off tonight? Hopefully Locke only took him to the Pearl to seal him away in it.

[Homer Noodleman]

I hope he and Nikki get plenty of screen time tonight. I look forward to the development of their characters. And Nikki's shorts.

[JacksGirlfriend]

Paulo was actually bearable.

But Nikki had to go and open her mouth.

[Brian]

Paulo was actually bearable..

Only because he didn't make the same mistake that Nikki did. ;)

I can't believe they were present for Ekos funeral......that's just wrong.

[JacksGirlfriend]

Well, they were the only ones in the jungle. Guess we couldn't expect them to carry Eko all the way home, but seems they could have rigged a travois or something and at least buried him with Shannon and Boone.

At least Paulo kept his mouth shut.

Stupid Nikki. I can't even remember what she said but I wanted to slap her.

[boonian androphile]

While the grave was being dug, Desmond, Locke and Sayid could have added our pair of dunces. Few people would know. And no one would care.

[JacksGirlfriend]

Now THAT would have been an awesome idea.

Did you see that look Sayid gave Locke? It was like "... hey, dude, just give her a push..."

[Homer Noodleman]

She was bitching over the notion of having to carry Eko back to the beach. :rotfl:

[JacksGirlfriend]

I can totally see her doing that.

She is such a skank. Seriously.

[Warthawg1]

Let's be fair now...

We all despise Paulo, but when he isn't totally annoying; we should step up and admit his performance wasn't that bad. Last night was Rodrigo's best performance to date.

[cinderellabop]

You mean because he didn't talk? Yeah. That was awesome. If only Nikki had followed his example.

[JacksGirlfriend]

[Last night was Rodrigo's best performance to date.

Cindy nailed it.

[Warthawg1]

I hope they give him a 10 in this weeks character performance reviews.

[LPU]

Good God why the rush to force this idiot on us by TPTB if this is the best they/he can muster? Couldn't they have dug three graves?

[interplanetjanet]

Let's be fair now...

We all despise Paulo, but when he isn't totally annoying; we should step up and admit his performance wasn't that bad. Last night was Rodrigo's best performance to date.
I have no criticism of his acting per se, because he hasn't been given any remotely interesting or challenging scenes to sell. However, this failure also fails to justify his existence.

They had a great actor in Michael, but wrote him into a single characteristic (distraught father) with a single line (Waaaaaaaaalt!). Paolo isn't even starting out with an interesting role, so his acting ability, even if phenomenal, can't save it yet.

[Warthawg1]

Well.. Paulo does have a role.

He's the designated crapper.

[LPU]

Maybe by the end of the season he'll spoil all of the remaining stations restrooms.

[JacksGirlfriend]

Couldn't they have dug three graves?

*dies laughing*

[Khan]

Couldn't they have dug three graves?
No, because Paulo would have thought the extra two were the new latrines and would have interrupted the funeral so he could try them out.

[LPU]

hahaha you're probably right! Either that or he'd think it was a sandtrap and try to knock some kiwis out of it.

[wickedsweet]

I have to agree with whoever it was in either GD or Polls who said that they liked these carachters much better when they were Shannon and Boone.

While I usually have a soft spot for brazilian men (and the pictures to prove it:D ) but I still hate Paolo.:irked:

[Brian]

I have to agree with whoever it was in either GD or Polls who said that they liked these carachters much better when they were Shannon and Boone.

Absolutely. Interesting way of putting it too. You'd think TPTB would have left them dead. ;)

[wickedsweet]

Absolutely. Interesting way of putting it too. You'd think TPTB would have left them dead. ;)

Or found someway to bring them (Maggie and Ian) back, I'm still hoping for Zombie Shannon and Boone:hyper:

[Khan]

I have to point this out, but as much as his demise is desired, anticipated, or planned, the dead never stay dead on Lost. Paulo could be eaten by a polar bear while on a new toilet scouting mission and still turn up time and again like dead Yemi.

[boonian androphile]

I have to point this out, but as much as his demise is desired, anticipated, or planned, the dead never stay dead on Lost. Paulo could be eaten by a polar bear while on a new toilet scouting mission and still turn up time and again like dead Yemi.

maybe the next polar bear den is located at the service entrance of the dharma sewer system.:eek: :vomit:

[wickedsweet]

I have to point this out, but as much as his demise is desired, anticipated, or planned, the dead never stay dead on Lost. Paulo could be eaten by a polar bear while on a new toilet scouting mission and still turn up time and again like dead Yemi.


And with my luck he'd have Ana Lucia at his side:scared:

[sawyerhasbestlines]

Right now, I'm really hating the Paolo/Nikki combo. They should be relegated to a forum lower than whale <snip>. They get an area and Ethan and Christian don't????? Desmond is a player, he should be in the main characters.

Paolo and Nikki served up in Vincent's dogbowl. Blech....

[LPU]

Yup. Go ahead and lump these two yahoos into the dearly departed thread.

[wickedsweet]

Yup. Go ahead and lump these two yahoos into the dearly departed thread.

:yeah: :crossfing

[Khan]

The P.R.I.CK.S have been quiet lately ...wait are you sure that's the name you want? I like the word but really.....

[JacksGirlfriend]

It's definitely catchy. And probably suits both us and him.

[boonian androphile]

Prickers. Pricksters. Whereas Paulo is pure P.R.I.C.K.

[JacksGirlfriend]

I'm a Prickette. Not to be confused with Pickett. Although he could probably have a club like this too.

[Warthawg1]

Paulo is the prick...we are just the prickees....

Wait a minute....

We are the victims of his prickitude.....

no.. wait...

[JacksGirlfriend]

Maybe you guys can be Prickadillos.

The girls are definitely Prickettes.

[Warthawg1]

Did you just call me a dildo?

[LPU]

Have we all been Pricked?

[Fuego]

These two are completely useless.

I don't understand all the hate when we've hardly even seen these two. How can you say they're completely useless in such a short time? One would assume that the writers probably created them so they can contribute to the story later on. But of course, we don't really know, because we have only seen them in two episodes.

Right now, I remain without an opinion on the two, but I beg you to wait and see where their stories are heading before you judge them. That's what I intend to do.

I guess I was just excited that they introduced new characters in the first place... I like new characters. :)

[Hodgepodge]

I don't understand all the hate when we've hardly even seen these two. How can you say they're completely useless in such a short time? One would assume that the writers probably created them so they can contribute to the story later on. But of course, we don't really know, because we have only seen them in two episodes.

Right now, I remain without an opinion on the two, but I beg you to wait and see where their stories are heading before you judge them. That's what I intend to do.

I guess I was just excited that they introduced new characters in the first place... I like new characters. :)Fuego, moving past the fact he couldn't act his way out of a wet paperbag. That doesn't matter. As far as I'm concern, they could've gotten Russell Crowe and Kate Winslet. The idea TPTB took someone we've never seen, and placed them amongst us is revolting. CS has pics and bios of several Redshirts (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15000) they could've used. But nooooooooooo! They went out and got the "Brazilian Tom Cruise". Wait, I've got to hurl. Blow chucks! :vomit:

[sawyerhasbestlines]

I don't understand all the hate when we've hardly even seen these two.

The urinal scene and the golfing was enough to prove his emmy worthiness. If I'm wrong, I'll eat the red carpet he slithers down.

[Brian]

The urinal scene and the golfing was enough to prove his emmy worthiness. If I'm wrong, I'll eat the red carpet he slithers down.

:yeah:

[JacksGirlfriend]

Did you just call me a dildo?

Of course not. I was going for something along the lines of peccadillo - which isn't that bad.

And SHBL, what kind of sauce do you like on your carpet?

[Fuego]

Fuego, moving past the fact he couldn't act his way out of a wet paperbag.

:rotfl:

I'm sorry, but that's such a drastic statement after Paulo's not-so-drastic two lines. When I was watching those episodes and Paulo delivered his one of few lines, I didn't fall to the floor, clutching my eyes, screaming "BAD ACTING!!!". I didn't do anything, because I didn't care or see Rodrigo Santoro's acting as any better or any worse than any of the other cast. There obviously has to be some prejudice in your opinions.

These are fresh characters, which will probably eventually lead to something bigger or serve some purpose. All they've done so far is introduce them...just be open-minded about the two until they have a flashback episode, if they'll even get that.

Fuego The idea TPTB took someone we've never seen, and placed them amongst us is revolting. CS has pics and bios of several Redshirts (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15000) they could've used. But nooooooooooo! They went out and got the "Brazilian Tom Cruise". Wait, I've got to hurl. Blow chucks! :vomit:

That is just ridiculous. We have enough eye candy on the show. Why would their only reason for hiring him be because he is attractive? They obviously saw something in him that is not superficial if he got on LOST.

The urinal scene and the golfing was enough to prove his emmy worthiness. If I'm wrong, I'll eat the red carpet he slithers down.

Why would he even be judged by acting talent through a urinal/golfing scene? These are just introductions.

All I'm saying is hold your judgment. :)

[Hodgepodge]

...These are fresh characters, which will probably eventually lead to something bigger or serve some purpose...I'm hoping the purpose is to fill a couple of bodybags, and then, a couple of six-foot holes.


...That is just ridiculous. We have enough eye candy on the show. Why would their only reason for hiring him be because he is attractive? They obviously saw something in him that is not superficial if he got on LOST...Fuego, I almost hurled again! But, you make my point! As I mentioned in my earlier post, CS has pics of several actors who we've seen carrying firewood along the beach. Why not use one of them? TPTB went all the way to Brazil for this dufus. There's plenty of dufi here in America.


...All I'm saying is hold your judgment. :)Fuego, his fifteen-minutes of fame is over. Somebody needs to drag him off the stage.

[Fuego]

Fuego, I almost hurled again! But, you make my point! As I mentioned in my earlier post, CS has pics of several actors who we've seen carrying firewood along the beach. Why not use one of them? TPTB went all the way to Brazil for this dufus. There's plenty of dufi here in America

How exactly did I make your point? O.o
I think that what you just said right there proves my point even more. They went all the to Brazil to get him? They must really think he has talent as compared to the other several actors of which you speak.

[JacksGirlfriend]

My "hate" doesn't have anything to do with Rodrigo (I'm sure he's awesome). My "hate" is fixated on Paulo. He's my nemesis.

Everyone needs a nemesis. I finally found one I can obsess over.

[Fuego]

My "hate" doesn't have anything to do with Rodrigo (I'm sure he's awesome). My "hate" is fixated on Paulo. He's my nemesis.

Everyone needs a nemesis. I finally found one I can obsess over.

I'm happy to hear this ^_^
We're supposed to hate Paulo! He's a butthead!
And if Rodrigo makes us hate him, that must mean his acting is good.

[boonian androphile]

No, the writers are primarily responsible for the en masse hatred of Paulo and Nikki. In a show where we're expected to stretch credulity anyway, their introduction, when there were so many background people who could have easily stepped forth, was ridiculous. The writers have tarnished these two forever. I would rejoice if neither of them appeared on screen again.

[sawyerhasbestlines]

:rotfl:

Why would he even be judged by acting talent through a urinal/golfing scene? These are just introductions.

)

And great ones at that! Nuff said.

JG, I'll take my red carpet sauce with a layer of Bloody Mary's.

[JacksGirlfriend]

I would rejoice if neither of them appeared on screen again.

What's going to be really funny is when the writers figure out how we feel and have a double homicide/suicide pact/or simultaneous free-fall from a cliff just to satisfy us. Then I'll know they're really listening.

[Fuego]

What's going to be really funny is when the writers figure out how we feel and have a double homicide/suicide pact/or simultaneous free-fall from a cliff just to satisfy us. Then I'll know they're really listening.

But only 40 people, out of 17000 people that are on this forum, have shown their hate for Paulo through this thread/board. And probably about ten or more people who posted on this thread were arguing against the subject of this thread.

So this only a small sect of people who dislike Paulo. I'm sure a majority doesn't mind him at all or actually like him. So I don't see how the writers would want to listen to 30 people who have made Paulo their nemesis. :nanabobo:

[JacksGirlfriend]

So I don't see how the writers would want to listen to 30 people who have made Paulo their nemesis.

Oh, I think they want to listen to us, don't you, guys?

*remembers Viking funerals and pirate ships*

[sawyerhasbestlines]

Oh, I think they want to listen to us, don't you, guys?

*remembers Viking funerals and pirate ships*

and moths and mock Ethan resurrections.

[Homer Noodleman]

I look forward to much more screen time for Paulo and Nikki.

[JacksGirlfriend]

Me, too. That will give us more ammo.

[sawyerhasbestlines]

I just had a scary thought: if Paolo lives too long, his clothes will eventually rot, and we'll have to see him in a Brazilian thong.

I can't party with that.

[JacksGirlfriend]

Just like Sawyer took advantage of the situation to stash the liquor, I'm sure Paulo has a nice wardrobe socked away somewhere, probably right next to Nikki's on grass-padded hangers.

[Frecklestoo]

Hey, can I be a member? No pun intended, hee hee hee. I think my sig and location speak for themselves.:rolleyez:

[JacksGirlfriend]

Everyone who finds Paulo and Nikki as useless as we do is welcome.

All levels of hate accepted.

[Warthawg1]

My "hate" doesn't have anything to do with Rodrigo (I'm sure he's awesome). My "hate" is fixated on Paulo. He's my nemesis.

Everyone needs a nemesis. I finally found one I can obsess over.

I'm fairly certain I hate Paulo and Rodrigo.

This is all.

Good day.

[Smartypants]

I think Paulo/Paolo smells bad.

I also think there is not an official way to spell his name. Which is annoying.

[JacksGirlfriend]

The official spelling of his name will hereby be proclaimed:

PAULO

It's easy - Paul + O

(order of el Presidente)

[Khan]

I'll try to remember to use Paulo, but I prefer P, he hasn't earned the effort for more typing yet.

[JacksGirlfriend]

Well, P fits since he spends most of his time in the bathroom.

[boonian androphile]

And he Putts. Apparently. Although he was conspicuously absent during the season 1 golf tourney. Maybe he wasnt adjusting well to the new island diet. Or maybe he has been the voice in Locke's head all along.:rolleyez:

He just needs to die. Oh, and Nikki does too. Want to be fair and balanced in my loathing of the useless.:mad: :mad:

[Khan]

Until the day they die TPTB will regret using the toilet as thier means of making Paulo the newest smartass on Lost. The man will probably hold it until they're rescued now.

[JacksGirlfriend]

The man will probably hold it until they're rescued now.

Or until he goes to that great big toilet in the sky.

[sawyerhasbestlines]

Paolo's fate is a giant cosmic swirly.

[Khan]

Do I hear members of PRICK luring an unsuspecting Paulo in the a room that has a newly built giant porcelain head with promises of showing him the best toilet ever?
I just know one of you has climbed on top ready to push flush when the rest throw the poor guy in.

[JacksGirlfriend]

We can all take turns flushing. We'll throw in some hair conditioner just to be nice.

[Khan]

Ahh very smart, if everyone takes turns flushing than no one person can be held accountable for his ...untimely departure. Are you are lawyer?
Since I'm not officially a member (I love the name though) I'll just video the whole thing that way everyone will have something comforting to replay when the inevitable episodes featuring Mr. Poo Poo air.

[JacksGirlfriend]

No, not a lawyer, but I work for one.

[Khan]

Defense lawyer? I think the members here might need one after chucking ol' Paulo down the crapper.Of course since it has been proven he has thing for them, it could be argued he eagerly jumped in, but how to explain the flush...

[Homer Noodleman]

Don't bother... the charming chatterbox known as Nikki would out smart the lot of you to protect Paulo. :p

[JacksGirlfriend]

the charming chatterbox known as Nikki would out smart the lot of you to protect Paulo.

Nikki would flush it herself if she thought she'd get more lines.