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SupermanOX
10-26-04, 05:47 PM
Another question I have after reading the boards is from the first episode. I don't have the ability to re-watch old episodes or get screen captures or anything. But I swear that I remember the engine on the beach exploding because some guy wandered too close to it and got sucked in, and thats what caused it to explode. I didn't see anything come out of the air and hit the engine until somebody posted a video of it on here.
Enchirito
10-26-04, 06:33 PM
Both things happened. hmm... I wonder if the debris hiting the engine (no i don't think it's an alien) was a backup reason for the engine to explode in case they didn't finish the guy getting sucked in FX shot in time for the pilot?
SupermanOX
10-26-04, 06:38 PM
So, some people saw the debris hit the engine, while others saw the man get sucked in? Or did both happen simultaneously?
LostinTrinity
10-26-04, 06:52 PM
I rewatched this part several times this weekend since I had also seen that video posted here. There was all sorts of debris flying around the area. I'm not sure it even really hit the engine, just looks like it did.
The man got sucked in and there was enough time for him to get ground up really well and his bones to stop up the engine and then the shot switched to Jack looking back at the engine and covering up Claire as it explodes and the debris fly by at the same time as the explosion.
MangaKhan
10-26-04, 08:00 PM
I remember the guy getting sucked into the engine. The scene was was a mirror to the one posted on these pages, with Jack and claire to the left, then the engine, then the plane wreckage (not Jack and Claire, the plane wreckage and then the engine).
I wonder if the posted .gif is from the early test pilot they did and the scene I remember was from the pilot episode that actually aired on ABC.
Some distinction should be made.
Iphigenia W
10-26-04, 09:46 PM
*I remember the guy getting sucked into the engine. The scene was was a mirror to the one posted on these pages, with Jack and claire to the left, then the engine, then the plane wreckage (not Jack and Claire, the plane wreckage and then the engine).
I wonder if the posted .gif is from the early test pilot they did and the scene I remember was from the pilot episode that actually aired on ABC.*
BOTH scenes were shown when the episode aired. It started with the shot from the front of the engine and showed the man being sucked in. Then it immediately cut to a shot from the rear of the engine (with Jack and Claire in the foreground), you can see the engine and the debris for only a brief few seconds and then the engine exploded. It happens really fast and with the large explosion unless you were paying real close attention it was easy to miss the few seconds of time that showed before the explosion.
toonaspie
10-26-04, 10:19 PM
uh...why dont we just assume that plane engine get sensitive after plane crashes and tend to explode
I saw Castaway recently and after the plane crashes into the ocean, the engine continues to run and then explodes the moment it touches water.
But I'm no expert on this.
Zambini Stardust
10-26-04, 10:57 PM
I've re-watched my own videotape of the first episode at normal speed, and now that I know what to look for I definitely saw a large object fly through the air and impact the engine, bouncing off as the engine exploded. Happened so quickly after the guy got sucked in (in normal speed) that it's hard to see. So I watched in stop-frame and clearly saw the flying object hit the engine as described and as posted elsewhere.
So, yes, the guy got sucked in AND the flying object hit the same engine, both events immediately prior to explosion.
Interesting point is the flying object did not appear to be destroyed by the impact. It bounced off at at upward angle as the engine exploded. It's touchdown was not shown (to my knowledge).
aznpunk97
10-27-04, 05:59 AM
ok, let me clarify this for all of you....
i've watched it numerous times and came to a conclusion.
you know for sure the engine is spinning faster and slowing down because you can hear it very loudly making a high pitch noise like (eeeeeeeeee , oooooooooooo, eeeee, ooooooo) sorry for my sound fx but i can't really type the sound in words.
anywas, because the engine was spinnning so fast, it was strong enough to suck that guy up, so its strong enough to suck other large debris. that thing you see flying by is a large debris and it was about to be sucked in too but the engine exploded and the explosion caused the debris to fly out.
SOOO, it looks very much like an alien saucer coming down to take a swoop, hitting the engine, and taking off very fast. but its not.
so don't get paraniod.....
you can stop guessing what it is now.
or you can still think of it as alien ship coming to abduct the lost survivors.... :rollin
seraphism
10-27-04, 07:25 AM
odd that the debris is not located either in front of the engine of behind it at any time tho isn't it? I mean if it got sucked in by the engine it should have headed towards the engine's intake valve (just like the guy did) not the side of the engine as it clearly does if you watch it. ps :- go vote in the "debris" poll in theories and sepeculation if you haven't already done so i'm pretty curious to get the communities overall feel about this.
MangaKhan
10-27-04, 01:47 PM
Thanks for the clarification Zambini.:)
WhereRwe
10-27-04, 02:30 PM
My DH works in the jet engine business...really he should be the one who could answer this better than me. From what he's told me about jet engine testing process, the company does "bird ingestions" during engine testing. Meaning that while the engine is hanging in a test cell, dead birds are shot into the engine to simulate what happens when a bird or a whole flock of them gets sucked into an engine. As I recall, the company uses birds of various sizes...up to the size of seagulls, etc. The engines don't explode. Sure, it slices and dices anything that passes through the blades, but all you'd end up with is chopped meat on the other side. While humans are bigger than birds, they are mostly soft tissue and while bones are hard, they break very easily. Of course, bird bones are a lot lighter than human bones, but still I doubt that they would cause much of a challenge for a jet engine with metal blades.
There was also an incident caught on film a few years ago of a man being sucked into a military plane engine while it was running. I remember seeing it on the news and being horrified at the sight. However, that man was just on the end of the intake area and somehow he survived being ingested by the engine....and with very minor injuries considering how awful the accident looked!
The company also tests for "blade outs", which is where something causes a blade to be damaged during flight. Again, that doesn't cause an explosion.
DH doesn't watch Lost like I do, but he did see part of that scene where the engine was on the beach and he was wondering why it was cycling like it did....someone else mentioned the eeeeee, ooooo, noise it was making.
WhereRwe
Black Dahlia
10-27-04, 03:39 PM
Well, for those who think the polar bear was manifested because of its appearance in the comic book, you'll be happy to know that a superhero was also manifested. He swooped down out of the sky and grabbed the man right as he was about to encounter the rapidly rotating blades of the turbofan. Since it is not the way of superheros to reveal themselves to everyone before the right time, the man was taken to their secret hideout under Black Rock.
Incidentally, the pilot was also saved before the Mechagodzilla got him, but to keep up appearances our hero zipped to the plane's wreckage and retrieved a dead body to place in the trees. Kate, Charlie and Jack only thought that was the pilot; rather it was one of the crash's victims carefully selected to be unidentifiable.
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