Lurkers

[Khan]

I wasn't sure where to put this so it might get moved. My question is, are the lurkers afraid to post?
There's going to be thousands of readers, it's a forum with witty, brilliant posters and up-to date-spoilers, so many will come for information or entertainment only.
But how many don't join in for fear of getting the crap smacked out of them for thier first post or daring to interupt the "old boys club" conversations in certain threads? I've been there and after thousands of post had something similar happen to me, it was all I could could do not to tear the thinks-he's so-damn-smart poster a new one, which may still happen.
This is chance for first time posters or frightened off posters to state what holds them back from making the forum a stronger even more diverse place.

[lostbyme]

It's a kind of initiation rite. EITHER you overcome it and end up with thousands of crappy posts like me:D , OR you fail it thus proving that you deserve to watch "Invasion" at best.:D

[katiendave]

I am mostly a lurker. So much so that I forgot my user name and had to reregister to post again. I started lurking hear a long time ago, when there were not so many memebers. Now there are tons with nothing worthwhile to say. I used to LOVE this Board, but now it takes so much time to find the info I want to see.

Generally I just post when I have an idea that no one else is talking about already. I hate it when people don't read thru older posts and just repost ideas others have all ready had. But again that is getting harder because you might have to read thru 25 pages of junk just to see if anyone else is talking about it.

Well there you have it. Twelve people have probably posted posts just like this one.

Can't wait for 2nd half of season to start!!!

[LPU]

See Kahn, you had it bassackwards. We're the asshats while the lurkers are the brilliant ones.

[Hurley4Prez]

I spend most of my time at L-TV in Spoilers, and we always have newbies and lurkers posting, especially while the show is airing. :)

(We don't bite over there... unless you post foilers. ;))

[Lawboy]

I lurked for about 3 or 4 months before actually posting. Was a little intimidating at first, so that was my reason. Plus, at first, I just wanted to read the info and not contribute. Now it is fun to throw my opinions out there and see if they take or not.

[RunLoganRun]

Generally I just post when I have an idea that no one else is talking about already. I hate it when people don't read thru older posts and just repost ideas others have all ready had. But again that is getting harder because you might have to read thru 25 pages of junk just to see if anyone else is talking about it.

This has always been an issue here - especially with the episode discussion threads. I have not posted in these particular threads since S1 - or even read them, due to this issue. We have tried various things like the hype thread - so, people could put their lame comments elsewhere. It didn't help - so, the best thing to do is avoid the episode threads alltogether.

[winkelman]

i mostly lurk as well. Along with reading spoilers and trying to find answers to some of my questions.
but............

A WEEK FROM TODAY!!!!!!
i'm getting all giddy!

can i get a WOOT!!:woot3:

:partytime:

my GF and I are gonna throw a LOST party.
mostly peanut butter and ranch dressing. and some seafood!

[Locke'd_Down]

it took me forever to start posting, probably most of 2006 I was just lurking. Then, when I made my first post, I got flammed for accidently not putting spoiler tags.
A forum can be an extremely intimidating place, but now I feel my posts aren't judged like they used to be and I can just go right along posting my (sometimes worthless) opinions. It's just a matter of breaking out of that initial 10 posts, I figure once your past 10 posts, there's basically no turning back ;)

[Khan]

Okay that's what I was afraid of, posters being intimidated by the ones.....quicker to bite newbies heads off.
Look they're just people, they can't really hurt you, if you have problem take it to them in a PM or post it if it's appropiate. In the end don't give a damn about someone whose just being snarky because they can.
Come on people you're grown, use your spine and join in , ignore an idiot who gives you hard to go because they have hundreds of posts, they started off with one too.

[ISIS]

I don't mind if you tell me I'm wrong. But for heavens sake break it to me gently. :p You can even laugh at me a little but after that let me laugh with you.

[DreaminLost]

...ignore an idiot who gives you hard to go because they have hundreds of posts, they started off with one too.

I've had my feelings really hurt a couple of times by other posters. Yes, it's 'just a post on the internet', but it still stings when someone is unkind.

I think we need to pounce on the unkind old posters--which I've often seen done--if they are impatient or rude.

Next week we'll get a bunch of new posters and it's up to us old timers to make them feel welcome. Like this thread--thank you, Khan.

[JacksGirlfriend]

I don't mind if you tell me I'm wrong. But for heavens sake break it to me gently. :p You can even laugh at me a little but after that let me laugh with you.


And that's precisely the point.

If you post, you're bound to make a mistake (like forgetting tags or bringing up a done-to-death topic), but hopefully the people here will give you a little "smack" in a gentle way and tell you what you've done wrong. There's only one way to truly learn and have fun doing it - and that's join in.

This is a perfect opportunity. You have a week before the new episodes start and in that week you can get a few posts under your belt, get familiar with the different forums and the styles of posting in those forums, and you'll be all set to give us your ideas come next week. Once people get to know you, everything will be fine.

If you find yourself having any trouble at all, PM a moderator and we'll give you some advice or help you with your problem. That's what we're here for and, if you've been lurking, you probably already know us. So don't be afraid.

All of us had our first post at one time. Let's see yours.

[Khan]

You're welcome DreaminLost. Old timers may not always know how they're being perceived by very unsure newcomers.
However there are some that, well, need a swift kick in thier arses. Nothing damaging just a human no-one's-all-that wake up call.

[juanbong]

I wasn't sure where to put this so it might get moved. My question is, are the lurkers afraid to post?
There's going to be thousands of readers, it's a forum with witty, brilliant posters and up-to date-spoilers, so many will come for information or entertainment only.
But how many don't join in for fear of getting the crap smacked out of them for thier first post or daring to interupt the "old boys club" conversations in certain threads? I've been there and after thousands of post had something similar happen to me, it was all I could could do not to tear the thinks-he's so-damn-smart poster a new one, which may still happen.
This is chance for first time posters or frightened off posters to state what holds them back from making the forum a stronger even more diverse place.

I know this is a thread for the newer or shy posters, as you mention Khan, but I wanted to add a few words...if I may.
I'm hoping that the posters who are frightened or shy about posting a theory or idea start to come out and present more idea driven posts. Not a huge bang up theory or a whole page of examples, but ideas.
I personally would like to see more flowing ideas come forth so that we all have more to discuss.


I've had my feelings really hurt a couple of times by other posters. Yes, it's 'just a post on the internet', but it still stings when someone is unkind.

I think we need to pounce on the unkind old posters--which I've often seen done--if they are impatient or rude.

Next week we'll get a bunch of new posters and it's up to us old timers to make them feel welcome. Like this thread--thank you, Khan.

I do hope that more "old timers" make room for the new crop of individuals that will be arriving. Just wait until next season when LOST is 24 style. That will be definitely turn it up a notch on this site! :D

[Caught In The Plot.]

Lurking requires much less emotional investment.

[DreaminLost]

Just wait until next season when LOST is 24 style.


:confused:

[Hurley4Prez]

There are different "old timers", and there are certainly different newbies. There's some things that are definitely going to get you into trouble if your new. These are things that are usually corrected rather quickly and painlessly.
That's all there is to it (ora ll that should be).

What isn't ever accepted well is coming in with an attitude. I've seen many, many times when the innocent newbie victim is nothing of the sort. They're an arrogant prick who's miffed about being reprimanded about forums rules.
If you are corrected, thank the person who did so without belittling you. Don't cop a 'tude. That'll land you in chomptown quickly. So the respect has to be mutual.

No biting off heads about one fauz pas, no attitudes because you can do no wrong. Easy.

[vincent is behind it all]

I lurk simply because I don't have time to read thru all the info to make sure I am not posting "old news" But, this is the best site, by far, for truly dedicated and smart fans of LOST. I love the show and can't wait until it resumes in a few days. I hope it will not dissapoint!

[snakey]

Lurking requires much less emotional investment.
:roll1:

[Khan]

There are different "old timers", and there are certainly different newbies. There's some things that are definitely going to get you into trouble if your new. These are things that are usually corrected rather quickly and painlessly.That's all there is to it (ora ll that should be).
What isn't ever accepted well is coming in with an attitude. I've seen many, many times when the innocent newbie victim is nothing of the sort. They're an arrogant prick who's miffed about being reprimanded about forums rules. If you are corrected, thank the person who did so without belittling you. Don't cop a 'tude. That'll land you in chomptown quickly. So the respect has to be mutual.
No biting off heads about one fauz pas, no attitudes because you can do no wrong. Easy.




Oh how I wish it was that easy, if you're prick and are stupid enough to show it then tough, but there are many people who are afraid to post for fear of someone jumping down thier throats. They should just see it as more protein, eat them, and let them know it.
While we're at it we may as well deal with cliques or people who have thier little conversations going and don't want to be interupted. I've yet to yet the owner of the forum get an attitude because someone dared broke up an insider talk, so why in hell should mere posters think they can get snarky?

[Hurley4Prez]

Oh how I wish it was that easy, if you're prick and are stupid enough to show it then tough, but there are many people who are afraid to post for fear of someone jumping down thier throats. They should just see it as more protein, eat them, and let them know it.
The grammar here is a bit strange. What did that mean in relation to my post you quoted? :confused:
While we're at it we may as well deal with cliques or people who have thier little conversations going and don't want to be interupted. I've yet to yet the owner of the forum get an attitude because someone dared broke up an insider talk, so why in hell should mere posters think they can get snarky?Do people really get snarky with you if you try to join in on a conversation? I've never had that happen. If it does happen, that's definitely rude. I've never felt like there was "cliques" here on L-TV since everyone's pretty much been nice to me.

[Mysterious Mike]

Not to rain on anyones parade but didn't we go through this awhile back in this thread.



Newbie Observations on this Forum (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26682&highlight=newbie)

[JacksGirlfriend]

I lurk simply because I don't have time to read thru all the info to make sure I am not posting "old news"

You can start slowly. Pick a couple of threads that interest you and post a comment or two. It's easier to keep up that way.

[abcdxyz]

They should just see it as more protein, eat them, and let them know it.

Well, Khan, that's easy for you big cats to say . . . .!

I lurked quite a while before I started to post, and while I'm not really a newbie, I still haven't put that many posts out there.

What really helped me was when someone would acknowledge my post and give me a little, "Atta girl!" from time to time. It made me feel less like I was venturing into a den of vipers and more like I was conversing with other human beings. We all sometimes make a boo-boo, or say something dumb or repetitive, and frankly, there are some whole threads that seem so silly to me that I won't even go there! If other peoples' goofs and silliness can be tolerated, I assume mine can and should be, also.

I hope any lurkers out there will feel emboldened to start sharing their ideas with the rest of us! And I hope that those of us who have been around a little longer (or a lot longer) will be kind and welcome the new and stimulating input.

[Khan]

So it it the fear of making a mistake that's holding lurkers back? Is it the feeling they're strangers and won't be welcome in places like Lostaways?
Or is it they don't have the time to go over dozens of pages to see if what they have to say was already posted. Perhaps a combination?
Come on lurkers this is your tme to speak up, no one should bite you here and if they do they'll be eaten.;)
A little encouragement goes a long way, if the forum is to remain healthy it needs posters and hits. There are a lot of people out there worth knowing , full of great ideas, and would be great additions.

[Brian]

Brian is salivating ... he can't wait until next week to unlock "that thread" again ... you know which one I mean too don't cha, B ;)

It's been 13 weeks since I've had to think about that so I hope I don't forget this time.....again. ;) I'll probably put up the S3E7 thread sometime this weekend just so things have some semblance of "normal" here.

As for lurkers, I lurked for about 2 months before I made my first post here. Yeah, it can be a little intimidating at first but you get the hang of it. This place is a lot bigger than it was when I first started posting here in Jan '05. With a community this large there are bound to be some who get snarky when someone posts out of place. That's why we (the mods) try to stay on top of the General Discussion Area on LOSTday. This is usually the first forum people come to when they want to post something about the show and it can get a little out of hand quickly.

If you're lurking, please come join us. Don't worry about posting in the wrong place, we'll guide you along as best we can. Everyone had their first post here, even those of us who seem to have been around forever. Don't get discouraged and keep coming back. Believe it or not, it does get easier. :welcome:

[Noav Sigless]

I like lurking. I probably have the lowest post count of all the mods.

Occasionally I'll get in a talkative mood and make a lot of posts but, mostly, I just like to read. If I don't have anything useful, informative or funny to add to thread, I don't post. That's just my style and my style won't work for everybody.

There are lots of reasons for lurking, time constraints, web browsing by cell phone, not being fluent in English and some people just don't have anything to say. I'm sure fear is also a reason but I doubt it's the main one.



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[Khan]

Given the number of hits as opposed to the number posters it clear, more people drop by for entertainment or information.
But after noticing the number of newbies who start thier first post with a very timid, "This is my first post so go easy on me" or something of that ilk, I really think there are a lot of people who would like to join in, but are worried they won't be well received.

[Litta7]

I've been lurking here for almost a year. I love this forum! I think it's full of interesting points of view. =) Plus it's what keeps me sane during hiatuses like this one. The main reason I don't post is: by the time I read a thread someone else already said what I had in mind, so what's the point of repeating the same thing... Though I have to confess I'm also a little scared of making grammar mistakes (English is not my first language). But overall I just love to read what you guys are gonna' say next. Keep it interesting! ;)

[marshall2u]

mostly peanut butter and ranch dressing. and some seafood!

OK, I gotta ask.....PB and ranch?

You can start slowly. Pick a couple of threads that interest you and post a comment or two. It's easier to keep up that way.

I agree with this approach. I totally support being nice and encouraging to new posters, in most cases.

I do think that as a new poster, you have a responsibility to learn the rules of the board and become familiar with the way things work. I feel most strongly about this when it comes to starting a new thread about a "serious" Lost related subject. I don't like to see someone start a thread on something that has been discussed to death on their first day as a registered user. I personally didn't start a thread for 9 months after joining. I wanted to really learn how this place works, and to do a lot of research on the wealth of information that had already been posted.

I also agree with what has already been stated in this thread about new posters having to have a backbone. New posters WILL make mistakes, we all did (I often still do). You have to be willing to take your slaps on the wrist and keep going. But, as has also been stated already, you have to take your slap graciously and DO NOT cop a 'tude, or you WILL open yourself up to a more severe lashing. A reprimand is typically not personal, its simply a friendly reminder of the rules. Sometimes they can be a bit snarky, but again, it's best to accept it with grace and continue. If you're new, please don't come in being a know-it-all.

As far as clique's are concerned, they definitely exist, as is natural when you have people spending so much time together over months (and even years), and thousands of posts. This place goes far beyond a place to discuss the nuts and bolts of LOST. It has become a social hangout for dozens and dozens of people. In general, the vast majority of these hanger-outers are very friendly and helpful, but not all, and not all the time. It's a cyberspace version of real life. If you understand this, as a new poster, you will be head and shoulders above those who dont.

Bottom line: This is by far the best place on the web for social Lost fans to hang out. Learn the ropes, keep a thick skin, and, above all, have fun, cause this can be a really fun place.

*stepping down from my :soapbox:*

[John]

I don't post that often in the public areas of the forum these days. That will likely change a bit with the season resuming, but the fact is that I do a lot of reading. I guess that means I still lurk a lot.

I lurked for a very long time before registering on a whim for the sole purpose of downloading an attachment. After a couple days, though, I found myself popping in and making little posts here and there in a few threads. I started small, and that worked for me. I only got slammed a couple times in my first 100 posts, and looking back, the posts that got slammed were flame-targets.

I didn't start a new thread until after I was a moderator. I found that most topics were already in progress, so adding to the discussion was just a natural thing to do. After I became a mod, I posted my first thread. Somehow I found it very funny that months later, I had to merge my own thread with another thread that had been in existence for much longer. Go figure.

If you lurk and are afraid of being smacked for making a post in the wrong spot or for stating an opinion that others don't agree with, then simply start slow. Once you make the first few posts, it will get easier. Before you know it, other members will know you by your screen name and you'll be one of the crowd. It really is that easy.

If you want to discuss topics that are older or have been discussed before, try the "Guys?" Forum. That's what it's there for, and it's a great place to get your bearings and feel out the way things work around here. I personally spent a lot of time there early on, and I still love that forum for it's looser feel.

Something else that I found useful early on was spending a little time in the chat room. After a few visits, I found that I felt a lot more like a part of the community, and that's probably because I got a chance to chat with some of the members and staff in a real-time setting. It's a huge ice breaker, and people in the chat room are always friendly and willing to help point you in the right direction when you're a little lost. With a forum this huge, getting lost is a common thing.

Take the plunge. Introduce yourself in the introductions thread. Pop into chat and say hello. Get started now, and get a feel for things before the big night.

[KITTYK]

Dear Lurkers,

The first post is always the hardest. I took the mindset that no one really knew who I was and where I was and could never trace the post back to me.

I also had the feeling that by the time I got through the posts everything had been said. This last year when I was going through the various episode posts, I did the following: 1) Skipped down to the first post after the show had ended and 2) Skipped all posts that were only one or two sentences. Posts that are short almost never have any thing of value in them; the posts that are at least one paragraph will be more significant. The above suggestions will keep you moving at a fast pace.

Never feel pressured into making a post unless you feel you can really add a good thought. I figured that I have read about 20,000 posts; and you can see how many posts I have actually made.

KittyK:whitecat:

[ozchick]

I lurked for a long time because I enjoyed reading, and hearing about all the "easter eggs" I missed when I was watching, and didn't think I had anything to add. I finally registered and started posting when the webmaze began because I knew I wanted to be involved in that.

And while I've posted quite a bit in the TLE forum, it was really just the last few episodes before this hiatus that I started to post in GD. Part of that is due to the repetitive-ness of the episode threads, and not feeling like I had anything meaningful to contribute. But some of it is the perceived difficulty of "breaking into the club". It might not be true, but is a perception. Who knows, maybe it's just leftover feelings from high school when I was never one of the cool kids. :p I've still never started a thread, but maybe that will happen sometime.

So Lurkers, go ahead, make a post or two. Read around a while first, use the Search feature, and try to use complete sentences and proper grammar, and check your spelling. Everyone makes typos, but you'll probably get a better reception to a coherent post than one that's full of errors. I've read a few posts saying that some are concerned because English is their second language; just let people know, and do your best.

I'm glad I took the plunge, and hope the Lurkers do too. :)

[Tandoori Jones]

I find that because this forum is so popular, every topic gets discussed to death (ok not all to death, but pretty close) very quickly. If I see something of interest on wednesday night, I know that by thursday at noon there will already be 200 posts on the topic, so unless I want to stay up till 2 in the morning waiting for the boards to un-crash I'm not really going to be able to take part in any conversations here.
In addition, I find that the boards have become so cut up (as in separate forums for every aspect of lost) that they have kind of become stagnate. It seems like new topics are either shut down for having been talked about, are moved to another location where it won't garner as much attention, or merged into another thread. Take for instance the case that any question that is raised gets shoved into the "quick question" thread, which I don't think too many people are interested in sifting through. Threads should be allow to stay in the general discussion forum with their own title. That way more people can come across it, and ultimately serve to clarify issues for others. That way we wouldn't have so many already-discussed-topics constantly getting shutdown. In addition, even if the topic has been raised before, it might be good to get a fresh perspective in light of new evidence (you never know, it might happen)
All of these factors (new-post stigma, difficulty finding topics due to the structure of the board) leads to the fact that there are 60X more views than posts (judging from the archive statistics on the main board)

That being said, I usually come here to sift through the theories/try to not read too many spoilers (ack! I can't help it!)/and read the most recent discussion about the last episode, to see what people caught that I missed (which is usually quite a bit, lol).

Anyways, that's just my opinion. If you don't think that's the case you can try to convince me otherwise.

[MrSocko]

I think I would call myself an "active lurker". I have over 100 posts (i think), but Ive also been coming to these boards since the first half of season 1--so I dont actually post often.

There are a bunch of reasons I dont post. Part of it is because a lot of what is said on these boards seem to actually be anti-Lost. Sometimes its like half the people who post here dont actually like the show anymore, and just talk about how frustrated they are and angry that its not as good as Season 1 was. Since I dont share that opinion and am still completely obsessed with the show, a lot of the threads here just bring me down.

But im not "afraid" to post, as the initial post here asked.

[DreaminLost]

What really helped me was when someone would acknowledge my post and give me a little, "Atta girl!" from time to time. It made me feel less like I was venturing into a den of vipers and more like I was conversing with other human beings.

Lol ~ That's so true, abc. You can really feel invisible if no one even acknowledges you.

Perhaps people who are more at home here should make a point of this when we see a new person make a post in a thread we're involved in.

[briool]

I absolutely agree with Khan. I have lurked for two years, been a member for one year, and have posted once. I just expect that I will get flamed or derided when I post because my idea has already been expressed or maybe it is just a stupid idea. Plus, people are so quick to jump all over someone because they didn't check to see if a particular topic already had a thread devoted to it. I agree that you should search to see if your question/comment has already been adressed, but some people treat this as a mortal sin if you ask a question that has already been answered. For a newbie, all the "protocol" of posting that is expected is just a little daunting. That being said, I love the forum and always get a lot of information and entertainment out of it.

[interplanetjanet]

I've read a few posts saying that some are concerned because English is their second language; just let people know, and do your best.

I just wanted to add that errors made by people who speak English as a second (or third or fourth) language are usually consistent grammatical oddities, which people can understand with little effort. Those being bounced for English usage are usually the extremes of

mymm say i hv grate Idee3s!! iRoxorxxxx111

which ESL speakers have an even harder time deciphering than everyone else. I've seen several people put a note in their sig that they speak English as a second language, and people will make allowances for any odd phrasings if they know. Often people who mention English is a second language have better-than-average English skills, as judged by their writing, and it comes up in explaining odd expressions--now that I think of it, there was a great thread for a while started by someone in China about what all sorts of expressions, usually Sawyerisms, meant.

[snakey]

this thread made me start hearing this in my head (help)
it's so dreamy, fantasy free me, so you cant see me, no not at all. in another dimension, with voyeuristic intention, well secluded I see all.
LURKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE!

[Hurley4Prez]

I think most of the flaming comes at a time when every regular's patience is already being stretched thin... Right after a new episode airs. 99.9% of the hostility comes from repeat posts. While it's unfair to berate someone new for posting something already stated in a thread that's so long it rivals Atlas Shrugged, it's also unfair to post an entirely new thread on a topic that's already clearly posted on the first page.
While I can understand that someone new may not be familiar with our temperamental search system, I cannot fathom what kind of idiot rushes to post a new thread on a topic already posted on page one. In plain sight.
Again, right there on the front page for the world to see.

It's another way of saying "What I have to say is more important, more original than what anyone has tried to say before me. I'll take it for granted that I'm either smarter, or more observant than everyone here and post this blindly, skipping the thirty seconds it takes to read the titles on the first page. And damnit, they'll like it!".
Not that this member deserves a rude and obnoxious freak out, but you can't expect to be greeted with hugs and roses either.

A lot of bickering could be avoided by simply glancing over the titles on the first thread of the section you're posting in. This also saves the mods a lot of time after an episode airs of having to move countless duplicates because nobody wants to take a minute to check the obvious.

ETA:
this thread made me start hearing this in my head (help)
it's so dreamy, fantasy free me, so you cant see me, no not at all. in another dimension, with voyeuristic intention, well secluded I see all.
LURKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE!
I don't know why, but I first started fitting those words into The Smith's "Shoplifters of the World", until I realized it was RHPS. :p

[Mysterious Mike]

Yeah what he said. I would add more but Hurley4Prez put it so well.



:worshippy :10: :Headbang: :worshippy

[snakey]

shoplifters of the world unite and takeover, great song, great band. Oh if only Johnny Marr lurked here, sigh. he doesnt, does he?
Back to the topic, hee, there have been some posts from people who didnt read not one thing beforehand, even one post above, repeating the same thing. So if some lurkers see an unkind response to something like that it shouldnt turn them off to posting altogether. I know some threads have a lot of pages to go thru but if you start a post with 'I'm not going to read the hundreds of pages before this' it sounds so beligerent and not a good way to start out on this board or anywhere in any conversation at all. We need new blood, I mean new thoughts and posters to keep this board alive, so c'mon and delurk if you have something of interest, just look if it's already an ongoing thread to add to before starting a new one.

[Anubis114]

One reason some of us don't post often, and therefore don't have massive post counts is because most topics on the board have been covered, a few times. Since the hiatus I haven't posted here until today because there is nothing new to discuss. I have seen several threads started over the hiatus that are nothing more than noobs (I hope) opening 'new' threads' that have been discussed to death already....or old threads nobody has anything new to add to. Look at the new threads lately, they have mainly been either hype threads (oooh I can't wait for LOST to start...) or people coming in and posting great questions, such as 'has anyone noticed the numbers?'.
I am awaiting LOST's return so new threads on new topics can finally occur. Without new episodes, this board is dead.

[interplanetjanet]

Theories has had a lot of life lately, with several well-developed ideas. (I'm particularly fond of Their Dreams Come True.) Worth checking out again.

[see you in the next life]

Funny, Snakey...I also thought of Shoplifters when I saw this thread.


"I was looking for a post and then I found a post,
and heaven knows I'm lurking now."

or, maybe the reason our lurkers are afraid to post is because they're concerned

"they'll know how Joan of Arc felt, as the flames rose to their Roman noses and their posts start to melt."

[FriskyKitty]

Here I am! My first post. This thread convinced me to abandon my "lurker" status and become a full fledged member. I have lurked since season 1 and have seen many things on this board. I admit that I thought that this board had alot of mean and cynical posters on it, I even looked at other forums to get into. (Gasp! The horror!) I realized quickly that I kind of missed the sarcasm of some of the regulars and this is by far the "smartest" Lost forum around. I lurk because I have not wanted to be ripped apart or because someone usally says what I am thinking and I don't want to repeat the same thing.

[see you in the next life]

Welcome aboard!

[Melka]

There are lots of reasons for lurking, time constraints, web browsing by cell phone, not being fluent in English and some people just don't have anything to say. I'm sure fear is also a reason but I doubt it's the main one.

My reason not to post too much is English. I can speak well, but written takes me long. I like read others' ideas. I also have many things during the day and time is small. Since moving United States, much needs to do. Lurking is good thing for me. :)

[Homer Noodleman]

Man, I can't believe anybody thinks there are cranky posters on this forum. :toke:

Anyhoo... [snark on] for about the billionth time... [/snark off] Guys and What I Think are newbie friendly. Repeat topics (in fact, our longest thread is a rehashing of the Pilot episode) are tolerated.

The whole idea of those two places is that not everybody comes to the show, or the discussion of the show, at the same time, but they should still have a place where they can talk about Lost.

[Khan]

Here I am! My first post. This thread convinced me to abandon my "lurker" status and become a full fledged member. I have lurked since season 1 and have seen many things on this board. I admit that I thought that this board had alot of mean and cynical posters on it, I even looked at other forums to get into. (Gasp! The horror!) I realized quickly that I kind of missed the sarcasm of some of the regulars and this is by far the "smartest" Lost forum around. I lurk because I have not wanted to be ripped apart or because someone usally says what I am thinking and I don't want to repeat the same thing.

Welcome. I hope you continue to post, it may take time for people to get to know you but it's worth the effort. As for the those who might get nasty for no reason, use it to identify the ones you don't want to bother with.

After reading over the last few pages repetition seems to one of the biggest fears. I'm not sure that it can be avoided, it can be just too much to go back over dozens of pages when you want to post in a thread. After an episode airs some threads dedicated to it can become so saturated with topics a post easliy gets swallowed up and a conversation on a particular point gets lost. Some points once beat to death, are brought up and have been looked at afresh so don't sweat it.

Also Lurkers shouldn't feel every post has to be a literary gem, it's not a book, it's just conversation.

Stop snarking Homer, you're scaring a whole herd of Newbies, they don't know you like some of us do. :)

[JacksGirlfriend]

My reason not to post too much is English. I can speak well, but written takes me long. I like read others' ideas. I also have many things during the day and time is small. Since moving United States, much needs to do. Lurking is good thing for me.

Welcome.

I have to say the international posters on this forum never cease to amaze me. Despite the fact English is not their native language, they are still able to read and understand everything, post and add to conversation, get our humor and become friends with people outside of language barriers. I admire all of that and it's a skill very few American possess. Even those of us that have taken several years of a language would not be able to hold our own in a conversation, let alone a message board, that wasn't entirely in English.

If lurking works for you, then by all means, have fun lurking. And when your time constraints work themselves out, come back and post.

[3519273540]

My reason for rarely posting is not fear of being called out. I find that people generally ignore what I say, unless I say something "shocking".

I'm not willing to spend enough time on here to get known, so I have myself to blame.

[DreaminLost]

Well, 35... There are pleanty of people nodding their heads when they read what you write. Even if no one responds directly. You just can't see them, but they're there. :)

[Mysterious Mike]

http://www.wimpkiller.com/howdy/images/threat-lurker.jpg

[Commedia Del'Lost]

I'm still working on my grand theory.

[RunLoganRun]

I think most of the flaming comes at a time when every regular's patience is already being stretched thin... Right after a new episode airs. 99.9% of the hostility comes from repeat posts.

I disagree - most of the hostility comes from moronic posts, that waste everyone's reading time. If lurkers want to be accepted - simply post intelligent and concise thoughts. As I stated earlier, I avoid the episode threads completely (as do other regulars). They seem to attract squeeing, stupidity, and yes, sometimes repetitive comments.

[snakey]

Funny, Snakey...I also thought of Shoplifters when I saw this thread.


"I was looking for a post and then I found a post,
and heaven knows I'm lurking now."

or, maybe the reason our lurkers are afraid to post is because they're concerned

"they'll know how Joan of Arc felt, as the flames rose to their Roman noses and their posts start to melt."

ok, you're not Marr or Moz but I love you anyway!

[Softlips]

I'm still working on my grand theory.

Me too.

I was a long time lurker which really brought my productivity down at work because I didn't have a pc at home. It took me so long to join and post because I spent so much time reading posts. Now I have a pc and I credit this forum. I'm still a computer dummie but I'm learning. Love this forum!

[Top_Dogma]

Ahhh....yes! The land of the lurkers. Hello. My name is Top_DOgma.....and I am a Lurker. See....the hardest part is admitting. I have been lurking since early Season 1. My main reason for not posting is my schedule. Because of the way I work, I usually have just enough time to read all posts in various threads. Like others have noticed, you will receive a smack down for posting a comment or question that was stated on the previous page. Because of this, I pride myself on reading an entire thread before even considering posting. Since I sit at a computer all evening working (and reading this site of course), I'm usually on burn out as far as using the computer. I have enjoyed all of the different posts and characters that reside here. Hands down.......best LOST site around. Hopefully this will make me get off my tail and join the crowd.

[DreaminLost]

I like your avitar, Top Dogma. Very funny. Keep posting.

[John]

Seeing people that are long time lurkers come out of the woods to join this site is fantasic. Are you a lurker? Register! Join in on the fun!

[snakey]

Khan, look at all the people you brought out of lurkmode with this thread, pretty cool kitty. it's like you are their statue of liberty!
give me your tired, your poor, your huddled lurkers yearning to break free.
(I think I drank too much espresso today)

[Khan]

It was my hope more people would feel comfortable about posting and to highlight some of the problems they may have.
This thread gave them a chance to post without worrying about making a mistake. And perhaps help some of us realize it's not easy to be new so back off a little and encourage new ones instead of eating them alive.

[xgirl30]

I'm a long time lurker I admit. The reason for me isn't fear but that I try to only post when I have something good to add to the discussion. I originally started coming to this board to check out the spoiler section and the Locke section. I've been spending the majority of my time on the Fuselage and Lost-forum and only recently came back here.
I feel completely comfortable posting here though. (the fanfiction rules are the only thing it's taking me some getting used to.)

[Unforgiven]

People tend to forget that having their opinions challenged or having the nerve to actually say what's on your mind is what makes for the most interesting stuff. Unfortunatley that can either get you banned or disliked, or both. And that's pretty much why this forum is dying a slow death. If you check the Members List, most of the 17,000 members post once or twice then leave.

In all honesty you cannot disagree with someone who is quite popular with other members and the MODS, the backlash is too great. And that is true, from a certain point of view.

[chaz]

Great thread Khan.

I vote that you be named Newbie/Lurker Ambassador.

[clayseason1]

In all honesty you cannot disagree with someone who is quite popular with other members and the MODS, the backlash is too great. And that is true, from a certain point of view.
I've disagreed with just about everybody (including Suil) on this board over one thing or another and I'm still here.

[Unforgiven]

I've disagreed with just about everybody (including Suil) on this board over one thing or another and I'm still here.

As I said, from a certain point of view.

[sawyerhasbestlines]

I've disagreed with just about everybody (including Suil) on this board over one thing or another and I'm still here.

You're here for now, but sadly others are not. A year ago I would have agreed with you.

[Mysterious Mike]

I disagree with Clay disagreeing about the disagreement.



There are disagreements here everyday. A lot of time it leads to more interesting conversation.

[Unforgiven]

You're here for now. A year ago I would have agreed with you.

Exactly.

[Mysterious Mike]

You're here for now, but sadly others are not. A year ago I would have agreed with you.




ZING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[clayseason1]

You're here for now, but sadly others are not. A year ago I would have agreed with you.
I'm here for as long as I want to be here. I follow the rules and respect other people's opinons and I don't allow myself to take the "bait" that is offered. ;) I have learned to "let it go".

eta: ...and I light candles for my fellow posters

[Khan]

I'm a long time lurker I admit. The reason for me isn't fear but that I try to only post when I have something good to add to the discussion. I originally started coming to this board to check out the spoiler section and the Locke section. I've been spending the majority of my time on the Fuselage and Lost-forum and only recently came back here.
I feel completely comfortable posting here though. (the fanfiction rules are the only thing it's taking me some getting used to.)
It does take time for some threads and many of us don't really have as much time to spend here as we'd like, so when you're new it can be daunting. But if I were you I'd concentrate on one or two threads that require a little more effort and get the hang of them so you can navigate with ease.


Great thread Khan.
I vote that you be named Newbie/Lurker Ambassador.
Thanks. I just got voted the one most likely to tear someone a new one, now you'll ruin my hard earned reputation.:D
Nah that won't happen, someone's bound to cross the line and piss me off sooner or later, in fact I think they're trying it now.

[vonnegut]

*looks desperately for controversy in this thread...*

Come on, people, we only have a week left of Hiatus! Let's go for the jugular here! Riot in the streets! Havoc, Havoc!

Eh, screw it.

As for all those lurkers out there... I only cook and eat one newbie a day. As long as you post sometime in the evening hours, chances are you'll be safe.

It's really not that hard... the mods are all pretty nice, except for TPTP, of course. As long as you actually at least have a passing knowledge of what is and isn't "done" on the board (netspeak, etc.), there's really not that much that the mean old timers can do to you. If you're unsure, you can always go to "Guys" or "What I think" and Homer will cuddle with you.


By the way, honestly... some of the people scared because their English isn't all that great-- you are better than the people who use netspeak and can't capitalize letters. If lostpigeon can make it, anyone can make it. And the handful of people that I know here who speak English as a second language, have actually had their English improve A LOT by posting, getting responses, asking questions on how to phrase things, etc.

[John]

Thanks vonne. I knew I could count on you. :p

Lurking. It's easy. You point, you click, you read. Then "new show" night comes. Do you know what happens when the server gets bogged down? The Blast Doors drop. That's right. If you are not registered and confirmed before the server starts to get hammered, the Blast Doors drop and you get to stare at the backside of the Blast Doors. What's written out there is much less interesting than what Locke got to look at from the inside.

Some will say that it's unwise for me to advertise this fact, but I disagree. (Did I just disagree with an imaginary crowd?) One only has to do the math. On new show night, only 20% of the traffic is from registered members. We obviously want to take care of our members and make sure that they can read and post, so we installed a failsafe. Erik was the man with the golden plan.

When we reach the point that the server can't safely handle any more people reading and posting, we cut off those who are not logged in. Since only those that are logged in are able to view the site, and that's only 20% of the people viewing, the numbers drop quickly. At that point, we can handle more people logged in, right? So what's the answer?

Don't be Locke's knees. Don't get caught on the wrong side of the Blast Doors. Register and join us when we get the party started!

[melostmo]

I disagree with Clay disagreeing about the disagreement.

I agree with MM who disagrees with Clay disagreeing about the
disagreement.








i think ?

[Ekolocke]

I guess I have turned into a bit of a lurker lately, especially in the off season (can't stand the use of the word hiatus).

[tellthemmrekoletyoulive]

Khan,

Good thread idea. I lurked for months (even after registering). It was because of the witty, brilliant posts I read. Now, I do not consider myself a slouch in the brains department, and I am as much into Lost as anybody here.

I did get the sense that there was a sort of "old boys/girls club" and it took me a while to get up the nerve to offer my humble opinion. I have been slammed; I learned to slam 'em back. (Although, I try to take the high road in my snarkiness.)

Now, after posting a bit, I'm more comfortable. And if anyone disagrees, or thinks I say something stupid; bring it on!

I must say, however, what made me really feel good about continuing to post. One of the mods started a thread about "what would be a good user name." (Sorry, can't remember who it was, and too lazy search it now.) Anyway, one of the names he mentioned was.........tellthemmrekoletyoulive. Then he mentioned that he was pretty sure he'd seen that name around already.

In my mind, I had arrived!

:D

[DreaminLost]

Don't be Locke's knees!

That's beautiful, ThePlane.

:clap:

[snowshuze]

Snowshuze....reporting for duty SIR ! <snappy salute>

[vonnegut]

*cooks and eats newb*


Just kidding.

Welcome, Snowshuze.

[snowshuze]

*cooks and eats newb*


Just kidding.

Welcome, Snowshuze.

Watch those leather lacings, they tend to be a bit tough.:D

[snowshuze]

Honestly... I have been addicted to LOST since the commercials BEFORE the first episode.

[camelsmoker]

Honestly... I have been addicted to LOST since the commercials BEFORE the first episode.
Careful... once you start posting here, you won't be addicted to just the show. :)

Welcome.

[snowshuze]

What a lovely welcome. A very large thank you to all posters who have kept me informed and educated on all things LOST in the last 2 1/2 seasons. I look forward to participating <see enlongated squee in hype thread>. LOL

[igator210]

I turned into a lurker. I was never a heavy poster even over on the Ez Board, put there have been a few times that I've disagreed with a heavy / popular poster and been pummeled for it. Also, the fluff the is posted sometimes makes it hard to get to the meat. I don't have a lot time to get through everything when I might only need one or two things answered.

I update my character list, try to look for an answer I need, and go way till the next episode

[Lostintranslation666]

Hey All..
I admit i lurked on this site for ages before my first post. I spent most time in GWAW? And Discussion, often creeping into Theories and Spoilers for 'ammo' when im down the pub with friends (i have not stolen any theories, just put forward the idea of it being P**** or Yungs quantum ideas, not taking any credit, just directing people to this site, so apologies if the traffic increases) I admit i was fearful to post at first, i know n00bs are usually flamed, but i watched people being welcomed and joked with so thought i would be okay.. I havent had much to contribute, but i love being part of this family!

Sorry for the ramble...

[see you in the next life]

ok, you're not Marr or Moz but I love you anyway!


not Marr or Moz......just the last of the famous international playboys.....and yes, I love you too!

[brdmom]

I disagree - most of the hostility comes from moronic posts, that waste everyone's reading time. If lurkers want to be accepted - simply post intelligent and concise thoughts. As I stated earlier, I avoid the episode threads completely (as do other regulars). They seem to attract squeeing, stupidity, and yes, sometimes repetitive comments.

This leads to a question I have - I have been reading this board since EZBoard days, but as you can see, I rarely post, mostly because I almost never have something new to offer. But my question is about the episode thread - my understanding is "this is where you post all thoughts, comments, observations about the episode", but it quickly becomes so huge and if you can't get on in the evening, by the time you've read through the whole thing, there's nothing new to add. But, people start new threads about the episode in GD - so my question is, what comments go in the episode thread and what goes in new GD or other area threads?

And I mostly lurk because I have two small children and limited time on the computer and if I don't have something new or interesting to add, it seems silly to just post "yeah, what she said..."

[interplanetjanet]

And I mostly lurk because I have two small children and limited time on the computer and if I don't have something new or interesting to add, it seems silly to just post "yeah, what she said..."
I mostly lurk for the same reason! No one knows if you've had to interrupt a thought to go deal with a peanut butter situation.

On the ep thread, a mod should respond, but I think the attempt is to put a lid on all the "what did Jack say" "how bout that green shirt" "I didn't like X" stuff and stick it all in one thread. Individual threads are for something with more legs. And it prevents an explosion of identical threads, as 18 people start threads with variations on "What did Ben mean?" within 10 minutes. Waiting until Thursday to start a concentrated "What did Ben mean when he said we're all airplanes, except John?" thread lets the initial like-it/hate-it/huhs wash out.

It is my understanding that reading the last few pages of the ep thread (or any superlong thread) is acceptable. Posters should be understanding if their point was discussed 20 pages back, and the people pointing that out should provide a link. ("3 pages on that, starts at post 237, general conclusion seems to be that he said "Hairmanes" and it's a hairbrushes reference, which is why John is unaffected.")

[floh]

I'm a part-time lurker as well and that's not because I'm afraid to post at least not anymore, although I have read replies to posts that were not soo kind but really not so often. Most of the people here are really welcoming and good-natured. I took me quite a while to start posting, too (foreign language, afraid of being misunderstood because of it etc.), but then I thought don't take yourself too serious, what does it matter? Many of the posts I read don't get a direct reply regardless whether it was a regular or a newbie who posted it, but I think that doesn't mean the post itself is considered as stupid or is not well received. I just see it as an opportunity to throw your thoughts in if you want to or just hang out with some like-minded people. I think this board has a niche for everyone, just keep looking.

[LuLuLemon]

One thing that might not seem inviting is that to me there seems to be some inside jokes or something like that. It might just be me, though.

[Alostcause]

I lurked for about a week before posting. I wasn't aware that on a lot of other forums, you get the crap smacked out of you for being a 'n00b'. I realised that after my 100th post on L-TV. I learned that you get bashed on a different forum

[Khan]

I'd like to address the old boys/girl club issue. That happens mostly in Lostaways where the people have gotten to know each other so well you can get lost when reading thier conversations. But I've found them, except for one, who's on my crap list, to be very friendly and welcoming, even Vonne who says she eat newbies, actually I think she wants my award.;)
If you want to post there, just introduce yourself and ask what's going on, after a while you'll get the hang of it. You'll never get to know them until you make yourself known.
One thing that might not seem inviting is that to me there seems to be some inside jokes or something like that. It might just be me, though.
There are inside jokes , but if you post according to the threads topic that's all you need. If don't understand something being said, just ask, if an idiot answers, ignore them. There's not much else to be done with idiots, as anyone over the age of ten knows.

The other problem I see is the overloaded threads, that can't be helped. A certain amount of squeeing is going to happen, and should, they have a place here the same as anyone else. Sooner or later a thread dealing with your topic will come up, if not start one.
The point is don't stay in the shadows come out and play, there really is no reason to not join in the fun.

[lurker315]

I lurked for a long time until I had a reason to post. I used the search function and found the appropriate thread. I received a gracious shout out from the author of the thread. I've only started one thread (it didn't fly), but I'm glad I registered so that if a question is asked that I can answer I'm able to post. I'm now retired and have really enjoyed being able to add something of an "oldies" perspective to this entertaining forum. For the most part people have been very kind and receptive. I'd encourage lurkers to register and then join in when you have something to say.

[Khan]

It's the best Lost forum, and administration works hard to keep it from being overrun with flames.

[gertie]

One thing that might not seem inviting is that to me there seems to be some inside jokes or something like that. It might just be me, though.


This is true. And there are cliques. This is the way it is.

Happens everywhere and anywhere. But, you'll find a niche for yourself.

If you pipe in more often, you could have inside jokes, too! We just have to get to know you!


Smartypants. Hope you're having a great time in Hawaii!

[lostbyme]

TPTB, stick this thread, damn!

[melostmo]

One thing that might not seem inviting is that to me there seems to be some inside jokes or something like that. It might just be me, though.

inside jokes - they're really not that funny

might just be me - it's not just you, only 3 members are usually involved, no one else get's those jokes either..
we just put up with them

[lostbyme]

Come on, Mel, apart from the sectarian jokes that you mention, there are a lot of inside jokes like yours with supermodels. All steady members have their style and their jokes, but I think this is not a big problem: it takes not more than a week of forum lurking to understand who does what.
The true problem according to me is that sometimes newbies' posts prompt an aggressive reaction by some supercilious member. I experienced this very kind of reaction in my first attempts and if I weren't Lost-addicted as I am I would have given up for sure. On the bright side, the Mods do a wonderful job trying to smooth the asperities and making everybody feel at home.

[Khan]

It's easy to be a part of an inside joke, I started teasing the Mods about Power socks in the Board Isssues thread and every now and the I'll bring it up. Since nearly every Mod showed up there, they know what's it's about but the casual reader maybe scatching thier heads going "what the hell?'' and dial the nearest social agency to see if they can get us mental help.

New posters shouldn't let it throw them, if it's a thread you like go past it, if the posters get snarky because you've interupted thier conversation, ignore them. I'll tell you a little secret, they don't own the board so who gives a damn.

[camelsmoker]

TPTP's suggestion about coming into the chatroom is a good one. A lot of members chat often, perhaps not during hiatus, but that will soon change. It's definitely a great way to get a feel for the community as a whole, and also to get to know peoples' individual styles.

There are a few chatters I know who have never posted, but are registered, and I'm sure they know that their opinions would be as welcome in the forums as they are in the chatroom.

If you feel you have nothing to say, that's one thing; but assuming you'll be flamed for saying what's on your mind (even if this turns out to be the case--and it does happen, so keep your retardant vests handy) is prejudicial, and unfortunate. I think, in general, everyone here--newb and veteran alike--wants the same thing... interesting discussion of LOST. With that in mind, a bit of attention to the rules, no attention to the idiots and trolls, and just a bit of pixie dust (or not...), you'll be part of those discussions in no time.

De-lurk. You won't regret it. :)

[abcdxyz]

Here I am! My first post. This thread convinced me to abandon my "lurker" status and become a full fledged member.

Welcome to the club, FriskyKitty! I'll hope to see you in the "Guys" and "What I think" forums where I often hang out. :)

[abcdxyz]

It is my understanding that reading the last few pages of the ep thread (or any superlong thread) is acceptable.

I read the ep threads from the last post backward. Sometimes I get all the way back to the first post after the end of the broadcast, but sometimes not. Frequently, all my thoughts after watching the ep are addressed somewhere, but if I have something to add, I just go ahead and do it. The fact that something is touched upon doesn't mean it has always been covered to your satisfaction or that your observation won't add to the sum total of human knowledge.

I do agree with other posters here that it REALLY helps if you have something to say. Don't just post because the button is there. Many members have extremely fertile and productive minds and imaginations and they post a lot--others of us just have a good observation or idea once in a while. That's OK, too!

[JacksGirlfriend]

Frequently, all my thoughts after watching the ep are addressed somewhere

That's the beauty of the episode discussion thread. It moves fast and people are posting random thoughts. So, if you happen to post a duplicate thought, it's perfectly okay. Not everyone reads all the posts and sometimes it's impossible to do so.

The episode discussion thread is a great way to vent your enthusiasm (or frustration) after a new episode, plus it gets you posting.

And as Plane said, chat is a great way to get to know people.

[melostmo]

Come on, Mel, apart from the sectarian jokes that you mention, there are a lot of inside jokes like yours with supermodels.

moi ? joke ?
you mean I'm part of the inside joke thing ?
you're right...:hammersel


I was just teasing lbme
maybe loosen-up the newbie dude



but there are a lot of inside jokes even I don't get
I've gone back and reread the entire thread, to see if I can 'get' the joke,..
then I realize it must have started way back
so I search other threads..
then I stop, catch myself, and figure, whoa.. *forget it melostmo*
it prob wasn't all that funny:)

[lostbyme]

Aye, the worst thing of jokes is not to understand them. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[Khan]

I hate that too. I just go away until they until they finish thier course.
After all of the veteren posters who has encouraged Lurkers and newbies there should be some who will now take the plunge. See we don't bite, well we do bite sometimes, but no one's died yet.
There are few missing newbies....nevermind I'm sure it was an accident.

[interplanetjanet]

With inside jokes it may be best to just ask. Usually they refer back to a memorable post, and if you weren't in the forum for that post it will never make sense.

For example, in Spoilers "Is that you, Damon's Nephew?" refers to a poster who claimed to be Damon Lindelhof's 15-year-old nephew, who had seen the final script, been caught and immediately made to sign a nondisclosure agreement (misspelled), so he was coming in to tell us the special scoop, but not all of it because of the agreement he'd signed. Always brings a giggle to those who witnessed his flailings as he tried to find a single poster to bite. It's not like oldies made up a secret joke; it just became a standard reference for sloppy "I'm very legitimate but can't tell you why" foilers.

[snakey]

Damon's nephew was a laffer, if you are going to do a foiler be creative! We had several last year, the guy who worked on the sets who said by telling us stuff he was risking his job, then came back and said they found out and he would get fired, I enjoyed that long thread where he got ripped wider than, well I wont say we are pg14.

[Hurley4Prez]

Creative foilers are the liefline that brings we Spoilerheads entertainment during breaks.

But wraith will fall upon the poor moron who offers the droll foiler. No mercy for the wicked, as they say.

[BeJeezus]

First time poster, LOOOOOOOOONG time lurker! (Wow, how repetitious is this line!) I've been lurking way back when this forum was still back at EZ board, Master Xander was still master, and when there weren't so many members.

And then there were more members.

And then there was The Basement.

...Or is that taboo?

[Khan]

Welcome. I'm glad you posted. I started lurking when it was at EZ board too.

[NeillT006]

First time poster, LOOOOOOOOONG time lurker! (Wow, how repetitious is this line!) I've been lurking way back when this forum was still back at EZ board, Master Xander was still master, and when there weren't so many members.

And then there were more members.

And then there was The Basement.

...Or is that taboo?

Now, that is what I call some lurking.

N.

[Hurley4Prez]

"Deep" lurking, if you will.

[Hoo]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again...lose the post counts and the participation level will rise significantly. When posters have a red flag sticking out that identifies them as new, they feel self-conscious. When everyone feels equal, everyone contributes. It may not seem like much, but you can bet that if you stopped counting, the number of posts (and members) would increase. The best forums are formatted that way.

[Caught In The Plot.]

Lurkers should have been catching up and building up their post counts during the hiatus!

[TheBigCat]

Lurkers should have been catching up and building up their post counts during the hiatus!

That's right, Mr. Joined-in-Dec-2005-and-has-75-posts. ;)

[Khan]

Just checking in...nope I don't see any newbie/lurker blood, only a couple smacks here and there at people with more post counts, so all's well.

[Kud-Dukan]

I tend to lurk most of the time. I'll post my thoughts on an episode, and occasionally drop in to post my thoughts, but I don't do it a whole lot. Although...after reading this thread, I'm inclined to leave my lurking behind and start to annoy all of you... :nanabobo:

[NeillT006]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again...lose the post counts and the participation level will rise significantly. When posters have a red flag sticking out that identifies them as new, they feel self-conscious. When everyone feels equal, everyone contributes. It may not seem like much, but you can bet that if you stopped counting, the number of posts (and members) would increase. The best forums are formatted that way.

Oh, sure.

You've got, what, 35 posts, and you've got it all figured out?

N.

[wish I were a Lostie]

losing the post counts might not be a bad idea - those of you who do have a bijillion posts already know who you are, after all ;). maybe the post counts could be accessed by individual members as they so desire.

as a (relative) newbie and major lurker, I also find the post counts somewhat intimidating.

[Suil Liath]

Hoo has two other accounts that we know off too, the post count of each one I haven't seen. Hence, when Hoo decides which of the three accounts he'd like to use, his point count will go up when we merge the accounts.

Brian has sent hoo a PM asking that very question.

We are keeping post counts. Most people want post counts. If someone has 3 posts, they joined on day one, their last activity was 3 months ago (which means they don't even log on and READ) and they have a complaint about something that everyone else has been discussing for days, then we're probably not going to take that person's opinion very seriously, since they're not very invested in the discussion.

Make sense?

On every other forum on the planet earth, post count appears to have meaning. We bow to the will of the majority in this instance.

[JacksGirlfriend]

We kind of like our post counts. Some of us still mourn their passing.

[wish I were a Lostie]

We are keeping post counts. Most people want post counts. If someone has 3 posts, they joined on day one, their last activity was 3 months ago (which means they don't even log on and READ) and they have a complaint about something that everyone else has been discussing for days, then we're probably not going to take that person's opinion very seriously, since they're not very invested in the discussion.

Make sense?

yeah. didn't think of it from that perspective.

[wish I were a Lostie]

Maybe instead of losing post count we should add the "exalt" count. You may have seen these on other boards where you can bestow a point on your fellow posters for any variety of things - a great post, insight, graphic or just because they play nice. It's a way to recognize more than just posting but actually contributing to the community.

never heard of that.

who is allowed to bestow points? anyone? only mods?

[Khan]

Post counts do not matter as long as we respect newbies and lurkers. I have more post counts than some very important people here , but what difference does it make?
It's about expression, conversation and enjoyment. Who cares if you have one or a thousand? If a person is judged by thier post count and not thier post than the one judging has the problem not the poster.

[Reduak]

I've been around for a couple months now and just took the initiative to make my first post last week. I can't say fear of speaking my mind was keeping me from posting..geez, it's not like you guys can fire or divorce me, but it's more a matter of not enough time in the day.

Between a relatively new job that takes, on a good week 50+ hours and two little kids at home (ages 7 & 2) I haven't exactly had a lot of time to post in here. I found this site looking for spoilers and to maybe figure out answers to questions that TPTB seem reluctant to address, but the more I've lurked, the more I've been sucked in, so now I'm posting anyway,,,go figure.

[John]

...but the more I've lurked, the more I've been sucked in, so now I'm posting anyway,,,go figure.

It's been known to happen. 17,839 times, to be exact. ;)

[melostmo]

First time poster, LOOOOOOOOONG time lurker! (Wow, how repetitious is this line!) I've been lurking way back when this forum was still back at EZ board, Master Xander was still master, and when there weren't so many members.

*nominates BeJeeus for all-time lurker award*

I invented the Internet, er, i mean ez board ;)

noting to low count posters:
Emily Bronte, and also Margaret Mitchell basically authored only ONE novel each.

[solat]

noting to low count posters:
Emily Bronte, and also Margaret Mitchell basically authored only ONE novel each.

That's a nice way to think about it, melostmo. :)

I've taken to lurking myself a lot lately in GDA, because it's hiatus and I don't have much to talk about.

Also, (and this isn't directed at anyone in particular) I will say that there's a whole lot of innuendo going on down in the community section. Sometimes it's clever - and I'm all for cleverness - but there's a lot of the same bad jokes over and over again. So, I don't post down there much either.

[vonnegut]

*weeps* (yes, IKUS, and what are you going to do about it?)


I promise I'll try to stop, Solate. Please come back...

[Ida Monster]

Post counts mean absolutely zero to me.

[LPU]

Yeah, it's far from any kind of valid indication of a posters worth.

[FoundAddict]

I agree.

[Khan]

Even the owner doesn't have that many, and as we know some people really don't have time. It's way too easy to rack up post counts in the more conversational threads.

[FoundAddict]

I'm curious as to what the more "conversational threads" are? I usually only stick to "Guys..." and "General Discussion".

[vonnegut]

Lostaways and Arcade.

[Smartypants]

Some people post a lot in Community Polls, too.

[vonnegut]

Only the crazy ones, Pants.

[Khan]

I'm curious as to what the more "conversational threads" are? I usually only stick to "Guys..." and "General Discussion".
The Lostaway section. It's filled with the forum posters who can converse on non Lost topics. There you can get to know each other on a more a personal level. It's very popular and can be a lot of fun.
The clubs in the character forums are another place where people gather around to promote or deride a character. After a while you get to know each other and the posts can come easily.

[blondiejam]

I'm curious as to what the more "conversational threads" are? I usually only stick to "Guys..." and "General Discussion".

The Lostaway section. It's filled with the forum posters who can converse on non Lost topics. There you can get to know each other on a more a personal level. It's very popular and can be a lot of fun.
The clubs in the character forums are another place where people gather around to promote or deride a character. After a while you get to know each other and the posts can come easily.


and the BBR in the Spin-off/Webmaze section :Cheers:


(clarification... BBR = Boom Boom Room :D)

[FoundAddict]

I just saw the character sections, maybe I'll try and join up on one of these clubs? :)

[Khan]

Please do, some character threads are in languishing right now and new blood would help.

[Smartypants]

I'm always a little wary when an attack cat calls for new blood. ;)

[Khan]

:rofl1: :rofl1:

[Homer Noodleman]

Just be careful in the SASSAFRAUD club thread. I've accidently littered it with highly reliable spoilers from JJ and Damon er... my double top secret Hollywood Insider sources. BTW, I don't think the explanation of the MR. Wiggles alias is going to set well with some folk. :toke:

[Smartypants]

I'm also very wary when Homer reveals inside information.

[vonnegut]

Homer should stop exposing himself to unwary posters.


ETA: I mean, stop exposing his sources. It's just not nice.

[Khan]

Homer should be careful in SASSAFRASS, we have something planned for him.;)

[vonnegut]

Oh my god.

I would be very, very afraid.

I know better than to incite the emnity of the SASSAFRASS ladies.

[Noav Sigless]

One thing that might not seem inviting is that to me there seems to be some inside jokes or something like that. It might just be me, though.


Just seemed a good time to quote this one again. :nanabobo:

[Hurley4Prez]

^ lmao! Good timing. :)

[Homer Noodleman]

Actually, of all the lurker complaints, that's the one I can't figure out. Wouldn't a lurker have read the inside jokes and know what they are already? Or are they just opposed to frivolity?

[Frecklestoo]

I pretty much just jumped in with both feet the night I registered. I spent NO TIME lurking. I pretty much got ripped a new one a few times, but I defended myself, and started a thread about what newbies shouldn't post. Then I found my niche. And everyone loves me now.:D I love it here and I just post what I want to post where I want to post it and if someone doesn't like my opinion, tough noogies.:rolleyez: There are a lot of cool people around here, ya just need kind of a stiff upper lip until you get the hang of the place.

In fact I just posted this post without reading this entire thread. So sue me. Whatchu gonna do 'bout it?:nanabobo:

[Hurley4Prez]

Or are they just opposed to frivolity?

Seriously, many are. They don't have the faculty to understand it.

ETA: Frecklestoo, we had our moments when you first joined, but you've definitely turned out to be an awesome poster. :)

[Frecklestoo]

ETA: Frecklestoo, we had our moments when you first joined, but you've definitely turned out to be an awesome poster. :)
Yeah, you were one of the first people I tangled with, but you turned out not to be a jerk.:D

[kathryn420]

I am a lurker because I feel that I don't have much to add to most discussions. I like to watch the show, but I don't follow the webmaze and that stuff. Because of that there are a lot of topics that I have no clue about, and others that I think I know aboiut from the show, then I find out that I do not. Most of the posts I have made just get completely ingored. people don't even take the time to rip me a new one... (lmao not that I blame anyone,) My experience with forums like this is that it is hard to become a "reg" and no one really takes you seriously unless you are.

Again, not blaming anyone, just some stuff I've noticed. This forum isn't any harder to "break" into than any other forum I've been in. Actually this is a pretty good forum IMO.

I also want to say in regards to this: If someone has 3 posts, they joined on day one, their last activity was 3 months ago (which means they don't even log on and READ)

You don't have to log in to read posts. I only log in when I want to reply to something, so my activity might say that I havn't been on in three months, but I have. That shouldn't mean that my opinion on the board is worthless.

[Khan]

I am a lurker because I feel that I don't have much to add to most discussions. I like to watch the show, but I don't follow the webmaze and that stuff. Because of that there are a lot of topics that I have no clue about, and others that I think I know aboiut from the show, then I find out that I do not. Most of the posts I have made just get completely ingored. people don't even take the time to rip me a new one... (lmao not that I blame anyone,) My experience with forums like this is that it is hard to become a "reg" and no one really takes you seriously unless you are.
You really don't have to follow webmaze or any of that. What topics give you problems? And which ones don't you think you know enough about to post?
You're right it can be hard to become known in any forum, but it shouldn't diminish your fun.

[Primary User]

I've been reading the boards since the fall of 2005. I may have had to re-register once, but am not sure of that. I guess that shows how rarely I post.

For me, reading the boards is more of a spectator sport.

[FoundAddict]

Haha...a spectator sport?

[Katesbetterhalf]

I have lurked for a very long time in these boards. I also had to re-register. I prefer to just read what everybody else thinks. By the time I would voice my opinion 4 other people would have already had the same one..and can type a lot faster :P

[FoundAddict]

It's ok, just plug your noise and jump right in...

[Katesbetterhalf]

That's my plan....with both feet(and a megaphone).

[I_Knocked_Up_Sun]

The most common complaint seems to be that new people aren't taken seriously or don't have any new opinions. As a result, they rarely post and a self-perpetuating cycle is created. There are ways around this dilemma, however. Here are a few methods of making that first post count and being noticed:

No. 1: Pick a fight with the person who posted before you based on a minor point which isn't really even much of a disagreement at all. The more vicious the attack, the more you'll be noticed.

No. 2: Start a new thread based on a topic that has been discussed to death in Guys ... and GD. In no time flat, there will be plenty of replies.

No. 3: Find a way in each post to not-so-subtly take an extreme political position that has nothing to do with LOST. Within a day, you'll have a PM from a moderator.

No. 4: Go to Spoilers and pretend to have scoop, but do not tell anyone what that scoop is. Dribble it out in bits and pieces, but never really reveal any information. Your thread will have legs, believe me.

No. 5: Make something like 200 posts your first day and 300 the next day. Keep the pace up and within a week you'll be taken for a regular.

[FoundAddict]

No. 6: Make sure you've seen all the episodes!

[Katesbetterhalf]

IKUS,

Don't you think No. 4 should have gone before No.2 and No. 5 should have gone before No.1?

Working my way to 200 today...

[Smartypants]

Welcome Katesbetterhalf! :D

[Homer Noodleman]

7. Go into the Ana Lucia forum and sing her praises. If nothing else, you'll get a response from Khan and I.

[vonnegut]

The most common complaint seems to be that new people aren't taken seriously or don't have any new opinions. As a result, they rarely post and a self-perpetuating cycle is created. There are ways around this dilemma, however. Here are a few methods of making that first post count and being noticed:

No. 1: Pick a fight with the person who posted before you based on a minor point which isn't really even much of a disagreement at all. The more vicious the attack, the more you'll be noticed.

No. 2: Start a new thread based on a topic that has been discussed to death in Guys ... and GD. In no time flat, there will be plenty of replies.

No. 3: Find a way in each post to not-so-subtly take an extreme political position that has nothing to do with LOST. Within a day, you'll have a PM from a moderator.

No. 4: Go to Spoilers and pretend to have scoop, but do not tell anyone what that scoop is. Dribble it out in bits and pieces, but never really reveal any information. Your thread will have legs, believe me.

No. 5: Make something like 200 posts your first day and 300 the next day. Keep the pace up and within a week you'll be taken for a regular.

:rotfl:

The first one is my favorite. I may have actually done that for my first post-- I don't remember. :p

[Reduak]

Or are they just opposed to frivolity?

How come I just had a mental image of that guy on the news broadcast of the Hindenberg explosion......

Oh the frivolity!!!!;)

[Katesbetterhalf]

Thanks Smartypants...glad to be here.:Cheers:

[Smartypants]

I think everyone's first post should be hilariously funny. I don't care if it's on topic or anything. Just make me giggle.

Is that too much to ask?

[Homer Noodleman]

How come I just had a mental image of that guy on the news broadcast of the Hindenberg explosion......

Oh the frivolity!!!!;)

Kurtz from The Heart of Darkness also works.

"Oh the frivolity. The frivolity."

[Frecklestoo]

The most common complaint seems to be that new people aren't taken seriously or don't have any new opinions. As a result, they rarely post and a self-perpetuating cycle is created. There are ways around this dilemma, however. Here are a few methods of making that first post count and being noticed:

No. 1: Pick a fight with the person who posted before you based on a minor point which isn't really even much of a disagreement at all. The more vicious the attack, the more you'll be noticed.

No. 2: Start a new thread based on a topic that has been discussed to death in Guys ... and GD. In no time flat, there will be plenty of replies.

No. 3: Find a way in each post to not-so-subtly take an extreme political position that has nothing to do with LOST. Within a day, you'll have a PM from a moderator.

No. 4: Go to Spoilers and pretend to have scoop, but do not tell anyone what that scoop is. Dribble it out in bits and pieces, but never really reveal any information. Your thread will have legs, believe me.

No. 5: Make something like 200 posts your first day and 300 the next day. Keep the pace up and within a week you'll be taken for a regular.
:rofl1: My first post I did #2 (save your potty jokes, I didn't mean it that way):rolleyez: . I posted my BRILLIANT theory that I was sure nobody else had thought of. What was the topic you ask? PURGATORY!!!!! Gasp! Horrors! If that doesn't piss people off, nothing will. And I survived. ;)

Don't be afraid of posting, just be prepared to duck, run for cover, take the occasional ass whoopin, and maybe apologize for your horrid, useless opinion once in a while. (just kidding!):D

[Khan]

Minor threadjack: Frecklestoo I enjoy your posts but your avatar freaks me out.:D
This thread will probably be buried very soon since the Lost hiatus is at an end.
I hope it accomplished my goal for starting it which was to encourage new posters. Vets from all over the board have posted here, told you thier stories and have have welcomed you.
You have to know by now, you won't die, have your life irreparably damaged, and you don't have to post Pulizer prize winning comments.
It's a forum with moms typing while the kids are howling, singles, smartasses, you name it and it's here. There's a place for you, if you choose to take it. Jump in, you'll live no matter what.
To the lurkers who just come for the entertainment,:Cheers: :Cheers: :Cheers: , every hit counts and makes the forum stronger.

[juanbong]

Minor threadjack: Frecklestoo I enjoy your posts but your avatar freaks me out.:D
This thread will probably be buried very soon since the Lost hiatus is at an end.
I hope it accomplished my goal for starting it which was to encourage new posters. Vets from all over the board have posted here, told you thier stories and have have welcomed you.
You have to know by now, you won't die, have your life irreparably damaged, and you don't have to post Pulizer prize winning comments.
It's a forum with moms typing while the kids are howling, singles, smartasses, you name it and it's here. There's a place for you, if you choose to take it. Jump in, you'll live no matter what.
To the lurkers who just come for the entertainment,:Cheers: :Cheers: :Cheers: , every hit counts and makes the forum stronger.

I'm pretty sure it will, and I think we can keep this thread bumped for the next couple of weeks.
The way ABC is taunting LOST right now to try and get more viewers and rope back in the ones who have watched every episode, business may start to pick up. So to speak.

Let's hope it works. Godspeed..

[GimongousLostFan]

OK, help me out here. I lurk so much, I can't even figure out how to post a new thread......DR MARVIN CANDLE is on 'The Unit' right now. I haven't seen if he has two arms or not, but geez........

[winkelman]

um, about the peanut butter and ranch dressing posted abit ago.(sorry, don't get on the 'ol compu-tron much.)
tomorrow nites LOST party.
yeah, i'll have some sittin' out. really.

think about it if ya don't get it right away.
(I know i'm missing a number of other foods, but sushi ain't exactly cheap.)

have a GREAT show ya'll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Top_Dogma]

As the veterans have just recently stated, I'm glad I had a chance to see this thread. You all have been very encouraging to us rookies, and have shared great stories. Hopefully, we will have our stories to tell other rookies in seasons to come. With tomorrow being the jump off point for us all, maybe a new day will dawn for the lurkers. Maybe...just maybe....we will become "CONTRIBUTORS". Hope everyone has a great day leading up to the big bang.

ps - Go Tarheels!!!

[ScRuffY_DiMpLeS]

i'm a former lurker... just started posting 2 days ago. :o

i'm at nearly 20 posts and haven't been jumped or attacked yet!
yay! :clap:

and i'm coming from a really negative board experience,
i usually felt kinda like this horse -> :DeadHorse:

for some masochistic-ly insane reason, i stayed there for 2 years, so this place is like a garden party. i like it here. :cloud9:




no one has really said anything to me personally yet, but i'm sure my big mouth will probably change all that soon enough. :p

[solat]

Welcome to all of you!

(And go heels, also! :))

[Amelia Earhart]

Hi my name is Amelia,and I'm a professional lurker. I lurk because it's SEXY .


:Cheers:

[solat]

I lurk because it's SEXY .

I have a restraining order against a certain peeping tom which says otherwise. ;)

[Brian]

No. 4: Go to Spoilers and pretend to have scoop, but do not tell anyone what that scoop is. Dribble it out in bits and pieces, but never really reveal any information. Your thread will have legs, believe me.

This one works great if you're also Damon's nephew.

[Hurley4Prez]

^ That always helps. :rotfl:

[minywheats]

I would rather have alot of Lurkers than just people jumping right in and talking about how the numbers=108 or the shark had a dharma stamp on its tail

[LPU]

As the veterans have just recently stated, I'm glad I had a chance to see this thread. You all have been very encouraging to us rookies, and have shared great stories. Hopefully, we will have our stories to tell other rookies in seasons to come. With tomorrow being the jump off point for us all, maybe a new day will dawn for the lurkers. Maybe...just maybe....we will become "CONTRIBUTORS". Hope everyone has a great day leading up to the big bang.

ps - Go Tarheels!!!

Oh you were doing so good up until Tarheels.

[Homer Noodleman]

The numbers add up to 108!? :confused:

[blue sunrise]

no one has really said anything to me personally yet, but i'm sure my big mouth will probably change all that soon enough. :p
I'm sure you'll fit in just fine. :)

[ScRuffY_DiMpLeS]

If, just for old times sake, you need a beating - please don't hesitate to let us know!! We're here for you!! ;)

Welcome!


cool.
ya'll offer free spankings here too??
:bullwhip:


what more could a girl ask for? :Cheers:

[Ida Monster]

cool.
ya'll offer free spankings here too??
:bullwhip:


what more could a girl ask for? :Cheers:
Why, yes. Yes, we do. :naughty:

[Frecklestoo]

cool.
ya'll offer free spankings here too??
:bullwhip:


what more could a girl ask for? :Cheers:
Oh my....check out Woody's (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29903) and the Hootenanny (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29902) in Lostaways....you sound like a long lost sistah!:)

[JuliesJollies]

It's rough being a new poster here. The oldies but goodies are pretty rough and unfriendly lol

Julie

[Frecklestoo]

It's rough being a new poster here. The oldies but goodies are pretty rough and unfriendly lol

Julie
That's what I thought at first...but it's actually a great place with great people (there are a few exceptions). If you stick around, you'll get used to everyone. I think it's almost an initiation tactic (by some) to abuse newbies and see who can take it and who can't.

But Welcome to Lost-TV!:)

[Khan]

I was never one for abusive initiations someone should smack the them for trying it ...but they might enjoy it.

[Reduak]

ps - Go Tarheels!!!

and take Duke with you...

I think I know what most of us will be watching tonight, and oh yeah, there's some basketball game on one of the other channels.

btw. How 'bout that Wolfpack!!! Go State

[Frecklestoo]

and take Duke with you...

I think I know what most of us will be watching tonight, and oh yeah, there's some basketball game on one of the other channels.

btw. How 'bout that Wolfpack!!! Go State

The Hartford Wolfpack?

[cnack]

I am mostly a lurker. So much so that I forgot my user name and had to reregister to post again. I started lurking hear a long time ago, when there were not so many memebers. Now there are tons with nothing worthwhile to say. I used to LOVE this Board, but now it takes so much time to find the info I want to see.

Generally I just post when I have an idea that no one else is talking about already. I hate it when people don't read thru older posts and just repost ideas others have all ready had. But again that is getting harder because you might have to read thru 25 pages of junk just to see if anyone else is talking about it.

Well there you have it. Twelve people have probably posted posts just like this one.

Can't wait for 2nd half of season to start!!!

Exactly the same with me. I signed up in Season 1, eventually forgot my nick, and just visited the site without posting until this year. Frankly, even though I've been here a while, I'd have to say this isn't the most newbie-friendly place in cyberspace. Lots of folks ready and willing to shout down an uninformed newbie in a sec, and some of those folks are fairly new themselves. That's just the "corporate culture" of the board, I guess. Anyway, I'm happy to lurk around here.

[*Saint*]

It's rough being a new poster here. The oldies but goodies are pretty rough and unfriendly lol

Julie

Nah, not really. Most of us are welcoming, though, I think the most common response is "that already has a thread." I think some of the duplicate threads come from many not knowing how to use the search feature (though it doesn't always prove to be effective at times...)

Since the show has been on hiatus, I don't even lurk, I don't have time to get on the boards to talk about things that aren't enw. But now that the show is back in stride, you can gaurantee I'll be here.

As for Lostaways, the forum is friendly, funny and random. If you go into I Wanna Be Lost's Desert Oasis, just say "hi" and you'll have a pool of new friends. I drop in from time to time and am always welcomed!

:) :) :) :)

[PandoraX]

I actually do think this place is a little rougher than your average forum, and sometimes not for the thin-skinned (which is probably why I ended up jumping in gleefully). There are definitely some very friendly folks, but many of us are also quite snarky and opinionated. I hope that doesn't intimidate lurkers for long... because sometimes they post the coolest things.

[ScRuffY_DiMpLeS]

oh, ya'll have no idea how i am smiling. :D i'm amazed i chose this place to join out of all the lost boards out there.

see, the last board i was at, they took away my whipping emo (this guy--> http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y268/KaCiWiL/smileys%204%20wot/whipper.gif) because they said i was abusing it. pssssh.
so mean. =(

and then.. i come here, and omg! ya'll have your very own whipper here.. for all to enjoy!! its amazing. must be destiny.

seriously tho, i actually feel pretty comfortable here. so far, so good. once i get used to the board differences anyway.
but the people here, oh wow... HUGE improvement! ya'll actually seem real.

so yeah, thanks for tellin it like it is. and please, dont spare me any of the sordid, or morbid, details. i'm really just like ya'll were when you first joined. go on & pull out the whooping rods and kinky initiation sticks, whatever. as long as u dont ignore me, i'm happy girl. :Cheers:

[John]

Lots of folks ready and willing to shout down an uninformed newbie in a sec, and some of those folks are fairly new themselves. That's just the "corporate culture" of the board, I guess.

There was a thread last Summer (I think) that dealt with that exact issue, and it's interesting that you see it too. There is a trend here. Some members, when finally getting their bearings, will get a little excited and pee on the rug like so many big puppies. Unfortunately, the new folks are often in the way. I think increasing the awareness of that trend is a good thing.

[FoundAddict]

Everyone's got an opinion. Pretty much, what a forum like this is for, opinions/thoughts/ideas/etc. If you're not prepared to have it questioned, frowned upon, or disowned, then this might not be for you. But I've found that this forum is a bit more lenient and comfortable with almost anything under the sun, and noobs haven't really gotten out of hand.

[Smartypants]

:rotfl: at TP's subnic

[MotorCity]

I too am mainly a lurker. The main reason has been mentioned in this thread multiple times. I usually only post when I have an idea that hasn't been touched on.

I usually check the boards only once or twice a week when the shows on (Haven't been here much with the hiatus) maybe I'll start posting more..MAYBE!!

:woot3:

[ScRuffY_DiMpLeS]

haha. ^ gotta love the sig! :D :D

[juanbong]

There was a thread last Summer (I think) that dealt with that exact issue, and it's interesting that you see it too. There is a trend here. Some members, when finally getting their bearings, will get a little excited and pee on the rug like so many big puppies. Unfortunately, the new folks are often in the way. I think increasing the awareness of that trend is a good thing.

Don't be talking about me behind my back like this, TP..... I can't help my bladder issues! :D :p ;)



Nice banner there, MotorCity! :)

[Hurley4Prez]

so yeah, thanks for tellin it like it is. and please, dont spare me any of the sordid, or morbid, details. i'm really just like ya'll were when you first joined. go on & pull out the whooping rods and kinky initiation sticks, whatever. as long as u dont ignore me, i'm happy girl. :Cheers:
Dimples, I think you'll fit in quite nicely here.
Great start (certainly got my attention). :wink:

[Khan]

(snipped)

but the people here, oh wow... HUGE improvement! ya'll actually seem real.


Actually we're not, we're mysterious Island creatures currantly working for Dharma and we're recruiting Newbies for thier experiments.;)

[aggiesean]

see, the last board i was at, they took away my whipping emo (this guy--> http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y268/KaCiWiL/smileys%204%20wot/whipper.gif) because they said i was abusing it. pssssh.
so mean. =(

:Cowdance: I :Cowdance: don't :Cowdance: believe :Cowdance: you'll :Cowdance: have :Cowdance: a :Cowdance: icon-abusing :Cowdance: problem :Cowdance: here. :Cowdance:

(Please don't take away the dancing cow, mods. It's my best friend.)

On a more serious note, I too thought this place wasn't newbie-friendly when I first started, but sometimes I think that's a misinterpretation of the printed text. The instances of someone saying "That's already been done you stupid noob" are extremely few. Many times the issue is that a text "Merging with this thread" message or "this has been discussed here" message can be taken as terse when it's not intended as such. It's just how plain text can be written. I'm not saying all posters should say "Welcome! :D Follow me to previous discussion for sexy time! :D " or mods should say "Follow the redirect!!!! WHEEEE!!!!! :hyper:". It's just how the simple statements are read.

Hence why I end all posts with the happy dancing cow. :Cowdance:

Howdy lurkers! :wave2: :Hugglepounce:

:Cowdance:

[John]

I could see JB saying, "Follow the redirect!!!! WHEEEE!!!!! :hyper:", but definitely not me. ;)

[Smartypants]

I can actually think of several posters who would suggest following them to previous discussion for sexy time.

Don't give them ideas, aggie. ;)

[LPU]

sexy time, wha?

[ScRuffY_DiMpLeS]

Actually we're not, we're mysterious Island creatures currantly working for Dharma and we're recruiting Newbies for thier experiments.;)

haha. still an improvement from where i came from. =D

experiment away...
but hurry!
i wont be a newbie for too much longer.

guess then i'll get to do the experiment-ing.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y268/KaCiWiL/smileys%204%20wot/stud.gif

[ScRuffY_DiMpLeS]

I can actually think of several posters who would suggest following them to previous discussion for sexy time.

Don't give them ideas, aggie. ;)


so.. think i could get a list of those names in a pm? =p

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y268/KaCiWiL/smileys%204%20wot/innocent.gif

[ScRuffY_DiMpLeS]

Dimples, I think you'll fit in quite nicely here.
Great start (certainly got my attention). :wink:


why, thanky! :shiny:

[LPU]

Should we explain the triple-lindy to the former lurkers?

[vonnegut]

Welcome! :D Follow me to previous discussion for sexy time!

I. Am. So. Saying. That. Every. Time. From. Now. On.

[Homer Noodleman]

Bah humbug. In deference to my exalted status as an Old Timey poster, I hereby request that all new posters refer to me as Mr. Noodleman when addressing me.

[vonnegut]

Why's that, Home-slice?

[aggiesean]

Bah humbug. In deference to my exalted status as an Old Timey poster, I hereby request that all new posters refer to me as Mr. Noodleman when addressing me.
His name is Homer. Mr. Noodleman, if you're nasty.

:Cowdance:

[juanbong]

I'm not saying all posters should say "Welcome! :D Follow me to previous discussion for sexy time! :D " or mods should say "Follow the redirect!!!! WHEEEE!!!!! :hyper:". It's just how the simple statements are read.


I could see JB saying, "Follow the redirect!!!! WHEEEE!!!!! :hyper:", but definitely not me. ;)

Yep, that would be me alright! :D

I can actually think of several posters who would suggest following them to previous discussion for sexy time.


Yep. that would be me alright! :)

I. Am. So. Saying. That. Every. Time. From. Now. On.


So. Am. I.

[Smartypants]

Psst, Hey Mr. Noodleman. Follow me to previous discussion for sexy time.

Don't know. Just had to say it.

[*Saint*]

Originally Posted by Smartypants http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/images/002/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1297661#post1297661)
I can actually think of several posters who would suggest following them to previous discussion for sexy time.


For some reason, I can see a new thread in Lostaways forming... :)

"Mmm! Sexy Time! Follow the link!"

he he :flowers:

[klughless]

I have lurked for awhile now. I guess it was my own fear of not fitting in or saying something stupid that kept me from joining.

[Khan]

Welcome, checkout Lostaways there's a thread dedicated to Lurkers, and great place to meet people.

[stuckma]

Why post a reply to the morons on here with their "Only 2 hours left before the show starts!!" or "Oh My God!!!!! Did you see that???" posts? When I find something that makes sense and intersest me, I will post.

[The_Lurker]

Yay, a whole thread about me.

[torrent]

Personally, I don't post that often because I have nothing of value to say. I don't look at spoilers, I'm not really interested in speculative theories, and the show's been discussed to death. So even though I may have thoughts, I don't put them up on the internet because it would just be a waste of everyone's time.

I suspect a lot of "lurkers" are the same. And obviously there are other reasons, such as being intimidated, general unfamiliarity with the community, etc. Though I have to say that, based on some the threads here, it's not because of a fear of looking stupid :).

[Khan]

Probably most, many come here for information and spoilers.

[clayseason1]

With the switch to the new board format - Now's the last time to delurk and become an instant veteran. Once all the bugs are worked out - we'll have a new face to the world.

Delurk now and avoid being a "noob" on the expanded board. :D

[MrSocko]

:goodpost: Good advice, this is a great opportunity. We won't bite :shifty:

[wickedsweet]

Not unless you ask us to

[Khan]

I think lurkers will have an easier time.

Being new does mean you have to be a target, you'll probably make mistakes , but damn people it's a forum, the world won't end and the sky come crashing down because you screw up. Take the advice of those who have been around when it's sincere. If someone gives you a hard way to go just for being new, ignore thier ass and move on.

Please don't think you have nothing to add or that you have to post a witty comment. No one is paying you to entertain them so don't worry about it.

Just join in, find your favorite topics and you'll forget all about being new in no time.

[clayseason1]

Just join in, find your favorite topics and you'll forget all about being new in no time.
That's what I did when I delurked. I had read just about every theory in the whole theory forum and archives. I was familiar with the posters and one day, I just jumped into a thread and started posting like I had been talking to them for a real long time. It went really well and I never considered myself a "newbie".

[ozanna]

I lurked for over a year before I plucked up courage to dive in. I know I made mistakes, and still do, but don't we all. Anyway its great. My post count isn't that big, but, it'll grow ! And all you Aussies out there, come on in and have a go. You know you want to !

[Khan]

Your posts may not be many, but they are ones of quality ozanna.

Some people amy not feel too comfortable talking about Lost. The show can be complicated, the theories too much to process, or they simply feel they like the show but have idea what the hell is going on so they have nothing to say.

But now there has got to a topic here any lurker can feel comfortable discussing. With so many places of interest to post in no one has to feel as though they have nothing to say anymore.

[ozanna]

Thanks Khan I actually think I talk too much ! But you are so right about "Lost" being such a complex show and I think people are intimidated about trying to discuss it in case they make themselves look silly. I know a few people who used to watch enthusiastically but drifted off to Grays and DH and UB, which are fine as light relief, but "Lost" is quality. I love the theories and the characters .... and Sawyer !

[ILoveEko]

I actually think I talk too much !If 266 is talking too much, I'm afraid of what 40,768 means. :nanabobo:

[Megamuffin]

i wish my posts and join date reflected how much i've actually been on here and read on here. i've been lurking here long before i ever had the guts to post. i just waited until i felt i had something worthwile to contribute. it's a lot less intimidating when you start a new thread and people actually contribute and talk about what you posted up
i've been a lost fan since the very first episode (every wednesday ALL wednesday's as if my life depended on it) and i'm sure if i had a computer at the time i would have flooded the threads with mindless jumbo i thought up - but i'm here now and there's no time better than the present

[ILoveEko]

Hehe, your av is the same as my first ever one here. :D

[Megamuffin]

i just recently got a running computer with decent internet - it's the best i had with jumping on friends computers and trying to get my lost fix in the middle of the week (which in lost world is the weekends! haha)
i figured lost addict is the most appropriate for any hardcore fan - i don't have one part i like - i love it all (though i do miss boone's stylish abercrombie apparel, bed hair and strong desire to find pens)

[csx321]

waited until i felt i had something worthwile to contribute
There you have it. I've been around since the ezBoard days (and was a contributor), but I don't post much because I just don't have much to say, I guess. I get the more social aspects of online life from a couple of forums related to a hobby of mine, whenever my family, job, and church activities, etc. leave time for it.

[Khan]

i wish my posts and join date reflected how much i've actually been on here and read on here. i've been lurking here long before i ever had the guts to post. i just waited until i felt i had something worthwile to contribute.

I believe that is one of the biggest reasons why so many lurk but don't post, they feel they have nothing to say.

Now with all of the expanded sections and mulitiple non Lost topics there is no reason for anyone who wants to post a comment to hold back.
Books, movies,DVDs, etc. are all great places to begin. No one who wants to post in those sections can possibly feel "everything has been said".

The Lost threads will pick up, it's been a long hiatus, but if lurkers start posting in other threads, by the time the Lost topics catch fire again, they'll be vets.

[Megamuffin]

by the time the Lost topics catch fire again, they'll be vets.

just reading that made a chill go up my spine - i can't WAIT for that time!!! haha

[ozanna]

I haven't left the Lost topics yet - I can always find something to say or invent!!! Babble, babble, babble ! Better get used to these long hiatus's.

I do get a bit sad now that Prison Break and Heroes and House are all returning to our screens. I want LOST !!!! And I want it NOW !!! (Told you I could babble).

[beerman]

i'll be honest, i haven't even lurked since the season was over...i can't wait for the new one, but i digress, i didn't really have a problem posting last season, just never had much to say, mostly just here to read the different theories and get a better grip on the show. see ya around.