a tale of two kidneys

[Dagolu]

will there be a parallel between Locke's stolen kidney and Ben's kidney cut by Jack? Locke wants to fit in. Ben is always accepting of people wanting to fit in... was he waiting for this to happen to pull locke in? (did he trick Jack into cutting his kidney)

[Khan]

I know Ben is a sneaky as thye come, but I can't see him risking his kidney to get Locke.
All he'd have to do was promise Locke knowledge about the Island, and perhaps bring into the Other fold.
Locke's always looking for a place to belong, to be viable, the cult-like Others could pull him in with minimal effort.

[Without Dane]

I don't think Locke would fall for the old kidney trick twice.

[Khan]

He can't affort to, he only has one left.

[Hodgepodge]

I know Ben is a sneaky as thye come, but I can't see him risking his kidney to get Locke.
All he'd have to do was promise Locke knowledge about the Island, and perhaps bring into the Other fold.
Locke's always looking for a place to belong, to be viable, the cult-like Others could pull him in with minimal effort.I have to agree with this 100%. All you'd have to do is promise Locke a place at your table, and he's there. :(

[snakey]

With his background at least he didnt turn into a serial killer. Shuffled around foster care, crazy mom comes back to help steal a body part for his own father, unlucky in love, loses use of his legs, on and on.I feel for the guy even when he breaks out the wacky paste, I sympathize.

[Hodgepodge]

With his background at least he didnt turn into a serial killer. Shuffled around foster care, crazy mom comes back to help steal a body part for his own father, unlucky in love, loses use of his legs, on and on.I feel for the guy even when he breaks out the wacky paste, I sympathize.Great points Snakey! He has gone through a lot. As you mention, stuff that could send someone over the edge.

Boy, don't you want to know what put him in that damn wheelchair? :eye-poppi

[Khan]

So the Island may his last chance to find some meaning to his life and to belong.
That would explain his fighting so hard to make it work for him, and why he completely melted down when he thought it was another cheat.
The danger here is, he's probably misinterpting what's happening and instread of becoming all he can be, he could miss it through fanaticism.

[Lost_RuNNeR]

I'd bet big money on Locke dying on The Island near the series finale.
I'm pretty sure Locke's 'destiny' is integral to Losties getting off The Island.
Or he just stays there, convinced that he 'belongs there'.

I've been wondering about a Ben-Locke connection for a while now.
I'm convinced it'll become apparant over the course of S3.

[sgtdraino]

I agree Locke's destiny does seem central to whatever conclusion this series comes to, and live or die, I can't picture him ever leaving (or wanting to leave) the island.

As far as misinterpreting visions, I still believe that Locke is being led (or misled) by Smokey, and that Smokey reveals to Locke only what Smokey WANTS to reveal. And some of that is misdirection. When Locke says, "this wasn't the way it was supposed to happen," he's talking about misinformation Smokey has given him.

Locke is motivated to do what is best for the 815s as a whole. Smokey's motivations are still a mystery. It will be interesting if Locke eventually discovers that Smokey's motives are NOT the same as his own.

I'm not saying that they aren't. But I'm not convinced that they are.

[snakey]

Like Boone tells him in his tripdream, get the family back together, he is desperate to belong and thinks of the Losties as his family. The one he never had.

[Dagolu]

well the others refered to themselves as a nice happy family. If locke can get into pot growing families, why not a super-creepy family on an island.

about the kidney thing, I wasn't meaning that he was going to give his other kidney to ben, I just think that they'll have something in common (mangled or stolen kidneys)

also, in the boonedream, he was told that he would eventually save jks on alcatraz... perhaps a trade? him for jack kate sawyer?

[Khan]

They may not want him, but the Losties have something they do want, Aaron.

[FoundAddict]

Damn, I almost forgot about Aaron...

[Dagolu]

that makes me wonder why the others didn't put claire on the list... she would have brought aaron.

[Khan]

I've wondered for a while now if someone would offer to get them Aaron in exchange for something.
Locke could be that person, he's driven, needy and on the edge. If he ever comes to believe it's the the Island wants, the kid would be thiers.

[Hodgepodge]

I'm with SgtDraino, when the series ends, the remaining 815s will be waving good-bye to Locke. Maybe Rose and Bernard as well.

Knowing how Locke thinks, is there any doubt he's going to interpret the message on Mr. Eko's "Jesus stick" as a sign from the island?

I can't imagine anyone would be willing to trade Aaron for JKS, not even Locke. Remember, he's uncle John now. First of all, Claire wouldn't stand for it, not even as a ploy!

[Hodgepodge]

...As far as misinterpreting visions, I still believe that Locke is being led (or misled) by Smokey, and that Smokey reveals to Locke only what Smokey WANTS to reveal. And some of that is misdirection. When Locke says, "this wasn't the way it was supposed to happen," he's talking about misinformation Smokey has given him...SgtDraino, I'm in pretty much complete accord. That initial scan in White Rabbit found a very mouldable vessel. Although, I'm not convinced "Smokey" is intentionally misdirecting Locke.

I was in a thread discussing whether Locke and Eko found the ? Anyway, the thread digressed into a discussion of "Smokey". I put forth the theory, "Smokey" is possibly new at this too. Sending havids to Locke and the others is a hit or miss proposition. Remember "it" can only use what it gets. And we all have to agree, the havid given Locke in Deus Ex Machina was criptic. While the one given to Mr. Eko in The Cost of Living left nothing to chance. Maybe "Smokey" is just getting better at communicating. ;)

[snakey]

It is something Locke would never do considering his own upbringing, he would have had to be told that Aaron would die if he didnt hand him over. You're right about him being Uncle john now, it's all about the family.