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02-18-07, 03:58 AM
Okay, big obvious there taken straight from the episode but Desmond tells us that Charlie is going to die.
If we keep in the character of the episode, then Charlie is going to die by some balancing act of the universe to try and restore the timeline. But what should Charlie have died from? The answer is:
The hatch implosion.
But think of the scale of that implosion! It was a pretty damned big crater, of crushed little bits, how does a person walk away from that?
The answer is more obvious from the episode than some think (depends how you read it of course); Desmond prevented them from ever being inside! Through the tiny differences in Desmond's relived life (yes, I am saying he was sent back), Charlie and Eko never made it into the hatch, possibly Locke wasn't either, meaning the only definite person inside the hatch is Desmond, who is there to turn the key.
However, when Desmond goes back in time he sees the mysterious jewellery shop woman who talks to him about the universal balance etc. What Desmond has done is cause at least two people (Eko and Charlie) to survive an implosion that was supposed to kill them. Poor Mr. Eko is grabbed by a polar bear, but Locke manages to rescue him, Mr. Eko eventually falls to Smokey.
Charlie is now the target of this balance, and Desmond, by creating this imbalance, is somehow able to read the changes happening and thus receive flashes of things changing, things that could now happen, and is able to change them to save Charlie's life.
I'm uncertain how Locke fits, he may have survived by some freak accident or he may have also been spared the hatch, perhaps Desmond manages to convince him to leave after he smashes the computer. Thus Locke could be a target too.
This is mainly throwing it out there, but the evidence I think is in HOW Mr. Eko was written off. I know it was not intended from the start but it seems to fit, how can one guy be so unlucky to have a hatch implode him, then a polar bear maul him then a smoke monster beat him about all in the space of what...two days? Fate catching up with him.
There could even be some alternative link in this way, that leaves all of them somehow as survivors. Perhaps this isn't the first time Desmond's life has 'flashed before his eyes' and this was the only future he managed to create in which all of them survived, while the hatch (the necessary, inevitable component) was destroyed. He could have gone through THOUSANDS of possible lives, some where he never landed on the island but saw the world end instead. All we saw was one of them where he finally understood what his role had to be. Perhaps we saw flashes from several different attempts. When you start meddling with time it becomes so deliciously unclear
The woman behind the counter in the jewellery store? I'm thinking she is the universe's way of restoring balance to Desmond's 'path'.
The Valencetti equation? Big stinker if the universe is trying to balance that, perhaps Dharma failed because everything they do only results in the universe correcting the equation again.
And here's the juicy, far-out and completely contrived bit; perhaps that is what the swan hatch was actually doing, trying to harness time or dampen it or something so that the work being done could change the core numbers of the equation and change the earth's fate.
Note; I'm not liking time-travel one bit, but taking this episode at its face (or apparent face) value becomes interesting in this way.
I mean, alternative; we missed a bit. Before Desmond turns the key, Locke, Eko and Charlie all make it to a safer distance. When Desmond turns the key some kind of emergency vent could have opened up (remember we don't know where exactly in the Swan Desmond was under the floor) which released a ton of energy and hurled him out, sans clothes before the hatch eventually collapses in on itself. Desmond then has some weird ass dream and aquires some strange awareness, or as posted in another thread is mentally attacked by Smokey which causes him to (or manipulates) this dream/hallucination he is having.
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If we keep in the character of the episode, then Charlie is going to die by some balancing act of the universe to try and restore the timeline. But what should Charlie have died from? The answer is:
The hatch implosion.
But think of the scale of that implosion! It was a pretty damned big crater, of crushed little bits, how does a person walk away from that?
The answer is more obvious from the episode than some think (depends how you read it of course); Desmond prevented them from ever being inside! Through the tiny differences in Desmond's relived life (yes, I am saying he was sent back), Charlie and Eko never made it into the hatch, possibly Locke wasn't either, meaning the only definite person inside the hatch is Desmond, who is there to turn the key.
However, when Desmond goes back in time he sees the mysterious jewellery shop woman who talks to him about the universal balance etc. What Desmond has done is cause at least two people (Eko and Charlie) to survive an implosion that was supposed to kill them. Poor Mr. Eko is grabbed by a polar bear, but Locke manages to rescue him, Mr. Eko eventually falls to Smokey.
Charlie is now the target of this balance, and Desmond, by creating this imbalance, is somehow able to read the changes happening and thus receive flashes of things changing, things that could now happen, and is able to change them to save Charlie's life.
I'm uncertain how Locke fits, he may have survived by some freak accident or he may have also been spared the hatch, perhaps Desmond manages to convince him to leave after he smashes the computer. Thus Locke could be a target too.
This is mainly throwing it out there, but the evidence I think is in HOW Mr. Eko was written off. I know it was not intended from the start but it seems to fit, how can one guy be so unlucky to have a hatch implode him, then a polar bear maul him then a smoke monster beat him about all in the space of what...two days? Fate catching up with him.
There could even be some alternative link in this way, that leaves all of them somehow as survivors. Perhaps this isn't the first time Desmond's life has 'flashed before his eyes' and this was the only future he managed to create in which all of them survived, while the hatch (the necessary, inevitable component) was destroyed. He could have gone through THOUSANDS of possible lives, some where he never landed on the island but saw the world end instead. All we saw was one of them where he finally understood what his role had to be. Perhaps we saw flashes from several different attempts. When you start meddling with time it becomes so deliciously unclear
The woman behind the counter in the jewellery store? I'm thinking she is the universe's way of restoring balance to Desmond's 'path'.
The Valencetti equation? Big stinker if the universe is trying to balance that, perhaps Dharma failed because everything they do only results in the universe correcting the equation again.
And here's the juicy, far-out and completely contrived bit; perhaps that is what the swan hatch was actually doing, trying to harness time or dampen it or something so that the work being done could change the core numbers of the equation and change the earth's fate.
Note; I'm not liking time-travel one bit, but taking this episode at its face (or apparent face) value becomes interesting in this way.
I mean, alternative; we missed a bit. Before Desmond turns the key, Locke, Eko and Charlie all make it to a safer distance. When Desmond turns the key some kind of emergency vent could have opened up (remember we don't know where exactly in the Swan Desmond was under the floor) which released a ton of energy and hurled him out, sans clothes before the hatch eventually collapses in on itself. Desmond then has some weird ass dream and aquires some strange awareness, or as posted in another thread is mentally attacked by Smokey which causes him to (or manipulates) this dream/hallucination he is having.
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