S3 EPISODE 9 THREAD 21-FEB-07: Stranger in a Strange Land

[Brian]

This is the discussion thread for the next LOST episode, "Stranger in a Strange Land"

Please post all your episode comments, mini-reviews, as well as simple questions ("What did so-and-so say?" "What did so-and-so see?" "What song played at this scene?") regarding the episode.

Any new theories or big issues raised by the episode may be started in a new thread.

Enjoy the episode!

Unlocking. Please keep all countdowns, timers, and general squeeing in the S3E9 Hype Thread (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30820).

The episode ended at Post #240.

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Episode Description:

A power play ensues between Jack and "The Others" as Juliet's future hangs in the balance. Meanwhile, Kate, Sawyer and Karl continue on their journey away from "Alcatraz."

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In honor of the episode title, I delare this week at LOSTTV-Forum


"Official Iron Maiden Week"

http://art-of-hobby.de/hobby/iron_maiden/cover/STRANGER_IN_A_STRANGE_LAND.jpg

Sorry, I couldn't help it.

[Dezzie]

"Had a drink about an hour ago..." :)

[treygar]

ok the Iron Maiden week proclamation is awesome.....i'm gonna look for Maiden references the whole show!!!!

[Dezzie]

"God loves you as he loved Jacob"-seems Ludvico got to Karl.

[SpacedinLost]

lol "how bout I get you some stones?" Jack' been showing his stones lately, I'd say....

[Dezzie]

"How about you let me give you some stones" Tom pwned Jack!

[SpacedinLost]

who's the old lady?

[Dezzie]

COIL?

[turok4n64]

can somone tell me what happened before the first commerical break, just got in from class missed it!! :(

[Mysterious Mike]

No Sayid, Locke , Claire , Charlie or Hurley yet.


DAMMIT

[Fletcher]

"What kind of people do I think you are?" You tell 'em, Jack!

Now Juliet's in the "glass house"! What goes around...

[ons20]

jacks moving from his "cell" to a new place on the island, sawyer wont let kate go back to get jack, juliet is handcuffed, now in jacks cell

[sunburst]

So they moved Jack out and put Juliet in? Interesting.

[Dezzie]

Nice opening, I must say.

[ScoobMaster]

can somone tell me what happened before the first commerical break, just got in from class missed it!! :(

It was crazy! Jack killed Ben with a toothbrush and was crowned king of the island, then Sayid finished rebuilding the plane, and most of the losties flew back to miami!

[donldson]

Sawyer on a boat in the ocean not more than 10 miles from where he was attacked by a shark, singing a song from a movie where they are on a boat getting attacked by a shark.

Nice.

[turok4n64]

It was crazy! Jack killed Ben with a toothbrush and was crowned king of the island, then Sayid finished rebuilding the plane, and most of the losties flew back to miami!

:rolleyez:

[Dezzie]

LOL@Scoob

[sunburst]

Flashback time

[Dezzie]

Jack in a strange land!

[turok4n64]

who is that hot babe on the beach!!

[sunburst]

Is it me or is that girl's top just a little too big?

[ScoobMaster]

whoa, an actress that has actually been in something before

[ons20]

not the kind of top you would wear on a windy day

was she in entourage?

[treygar]

the woman is the Sheriff!!!

[Dezzie]

"Thanks for the sammich"- Tasty sammiches.

[treygar]

thanks for the sandwich...Jack rocks!!!!

[sunburst]

Aw, the lovebirds aren't getting along.

[treygar]

cool Kate is grilling Karl!!!!

[SpacedinLost]

LOL "That was a humdinger"

[vanillafields3]

jack's not happy to be in sawyer and kate's cage

[sunburst]

Teddy Bear

[Makaveli46]

I'll bet Benry is mad at this conversation.

[sunburst]

Not too smart to keep the island doctor locked up.

[treygar]

ok so Otherville is indeed Lostieland as well....the other island is just 'where they work'...one question answered i guess....and the kids in a better place...meaning Orlando I'm guessing!!!!

[Dezzie]

Others don't like that she killed Danny?

[treygar]

i guess Jack is taking is non helping stance now that he knows Kate is safe...but yet does he not understand the Others can easily take the armada across the pond and kill pretty Freckles?

[ScoobMaster]

anyway Turok, all you missed was Jack getting moved outside, and noticing that Juliet was locked up.

and noticing that older lady

[LPU]

Man this is sucking so far!

[C_Lost]

Jack actually has a pair this season.

[Mysterious Mike]

The flashback has been totally weak so far.

[Dezzie]

Yeah right, C_Lost. He'll pussy out when confronted.

[Mysterious Mike]

Man this is sucking so far!



I agree

[beerman]

interesting so far...

[Dezzie]

15 minutes in- what does everyone think?

[lostboy]

Jack needs to die. That guy is borrrrrrrrrrrrring.

[Fletcher]

Another flashback fakeout!

So the Others "give the kids a better life"? I was hoping for a slightly more substantial explanation, but okay.

Loved the "kidnap a boy of a raft mission" line. Kate and Sawyer are having couple problems!

So, everyone's finally asking questions! Good for them. And apparently the Others aren't okay with killing other Others. Interesting. Juliet should just explain that Danny was annoying as hell. Totally true.

[ScoobMaster]

15 minutes in and it feels like five minutes in, we need some depth

[SpacedinLost]

Ok, so Juliet is a doctor. She knows what an infected wound looks like and how to treat it (that's a no-brainer).......Jack was smart to stay put. They were obviously trying to pull something over on him....

[sunburst]

15 minutes in- what does everyone think?

I like it.

[treygar]

i think i made out the Dharma logo in that Thai food!!!......just kidding...

[sunburst]

Thailand

[C_Lost]

Yeah right, C_Lost. He'll pussy out when confronted.

Yea you're probably right, but at least this season he is starting off strong. Last sesason he was a wuss through the whole thing.

[turok4n64]

alright someone translate what they said

[Dezzie]

Pretty low key so far.

"WHY YOU NO FLY KITE, LITTLE MAN?"

[beerman]

the old woman is back. and she speaks another language.

[SpacedinLost]

"Lost in Translation" heheh

[anubissah]

Ooooooh, how this episode suuuuuuuuuuuucks........

[ons20]

what does it say!?

[turok4n64]

is that the old lady from Desmond's "flash back"?

[CarrieMeHome]

:rolleyez: Hey, they don't eat with chopsticks in Thailand! That's an irritating oversight!

[Dezzie]

"Hi Jack, I'm Isabelle. I'm not going to brainwash you or anything, just be nice."

[lostcorona]

Whoa...does the chines-speaking blonde look familiar?

:coffeedunk:

[Dezzie]

Isabelle seems to be a Dharma investigator...

[sunburst]

Oh Jack, why back down?

[GreenDayStoleMyGirlFrieND]

lmao.



they got island police.

[turok4n64]

wow this episode is boring as hell

[Makaveli46]

No way...

[beerman]

haha...jack says, "i'd like to go back to my cage now."

[Dezzie]

The Sherrif Don't Like It, Rock The Casbah.
Rock the casbah, Jack-O!

[SpacedinLost]

She used to be on a soap opera years ago... trying to remember where i've seen her before....

[treygar]

ok we need the translations of what the tattoos say according to what Isabella read!!!!....cmon guys!!!

[LPU]

wow this episode is boring as hell

Yeah, That.

[lostcorona]

Is that Christina ala Joan Crawford Mommy Deares...just an aside?!?:coffeedunk:

[anubissah]

The wierd-voice old-woman Other looks like the lady that threw the bomb at the raft when Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-aaaaaaaaalt was taken.

[C_Lost]

I contract my earlier statement...Jack just wussed out.

[treygar]

She used to be on a soap opera years ago... trying to remember where i've seen her before....

if they wanted someone from an old soap they could have gotten Barry from Eastenders!!!!!:) :) :) :) :) :) :)

[Merciful Sky]

is that the old lady from Desmond's "flash back"?

No, it's not.

[Dezzie]

Not much seems to have happened so far...

[thadigan]

it doesnt really look like the woman from the raft...and it isnt the same actress as desmond's ep, but im wondering if it is supposed to be a younger version of her (how that would be i dont know)

[sunburst]

They have a sheriff on the island that let's them keep people in cages? WTF?

[Mysterious Mike]

I wonder if they might have another camera that Juliet didn't know about and they have footage of her asking Jack to kill Ben with the video? Or maybe they found the video.

[SpacedinLost]

Is that Christina ala Joan Crawford Mommy Deares...just an aside?!?:coffeedunk:


YES!!! That's where I've seen her!! NO WIRE HANGERS!!! EVER!!!

[snakey]

She used to be on a soap opera years ago... trying to remember where i've seen her before....

She was just in Prison Break a few episodes ago and in Mommie Dearest as well as Law and Order, X files etc.

[anubissah]

LOST is beginning to be a waste of time. I don't feel cheated as much as I feel spat on by TPTB - this is ridiculous.

[tellthemmrekoletyoulive]

SHe's the woman who was in the remake of Psycho.

[SpacedinLost]

They have a sheriff on the island that let's them keep people in cages? WTF?


Seems more like Internal Affairs, so to speak.

[ScoobMaster]

there has been more commercials than episode, there is no way this will make 40 minutes on the dvd

[Dezzie]

Moon was brought up, there's a theory about that...

[lostgotme2]

wow this episode is boring as hell
Took the words out of my mouth...the thoughts out of my head! I logged back on just to say the same things. 28 minutes into the hour and nothing has happened. Yawning.

[SpacedinLost]

Me love you long time, Jack

[chaz]

ok we need the translations of what the tattoos say according to what Isabella read!!!!....cmon guys!!!
The translation is "I can't even fly a kite"

[turok4n64]

something please happen

[Dezzie]

Achara being very mysterious. What's this "gift"?

[Brian]

is that the old lady from Desmond's "flash back"?

That was Fionnula Flanagan (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001217/).

Isabel is played by Diana Scarwid (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0769311/).

[anubissah]

I think the Asian chick is annoying as HELL. Overacting like crazy.

[treygar]

why do i have a bad feeling the 'we're here to watch' part that we are so eager to see won't happen til the very end of the episode....then we'll get a real killer preview for next weeks episode only to get another boring episode.....

[Dezzie]

"stop ask question, Jack!"

[chaz]

I think the Asian chick is annoying as HELL. Overacting like crazy.
ditto

[treygar]

uh....i stand corrected....

[sunburst]

Here we go-Cindy

[Dezzie]

Tailies and Cindy!

[SpacedinLost]

kids!!

[blondiejam]

there are the kids. what the heck

[Dezzie]

Teddy bear sighting!

[SpacedinLost]

AnaL? She dead.

[sunburst]

Cindy is brainwashed.

[ons20]

its like they have no clue what its like for the losties right now

[sicwhite]

Great. A full episode that got us... absolutely nothing.

[Dezzie]

"sorry kids, but AnaL done got herself killed"

Karl's gone!

[sunburst]

What the heck was that whole scene about?

[NormanFrancisBates]

what'd she ask?

[treygar]

what did Cindy say....'its complicated.' ????????????

[ons20]

cowboy up, bobby

[sunburst]

LOL Sawyer punched that little wuss

[SpacedinLost]

Yeah, my man Sawyer's doing some De-Programming of his own!!! You go, Sawyer!!

[Variable]

ditto

yea sure but what's the actress' name? that's the only reason I'm on here right now, don't want to forget later.

edit - the asian

[turok4n64]

how can u go from such a high production episode (desmon orriented) to this pile of steaming crap?

reminds me of the episode where Sawyer was being annoyed by a frog :(

[sunburst]

Sally Slingshot

[Dezzie]

"COWBOY UP, BOBBY!" Lol

Sally slingshot. :)

[lostcorona]

get to the good stuff:coffeedunk:

[Brian]

yea sure but what's the actress' name? that's the only reason I'm on here right now, don't want to forget later.

edit - the asian

Her name is Bai Ling. The character's name is Acherra (sp?).

[Dezzie]

Alex talkin' to Jack.

"Why'd you save his life?"

"Dude, complicated."

[lostgotme2]

Trying hard... to stay awake.

[anubissah]

This episode makes no sense what so ever - and not in the good way. I might as well bang my head against the door for an hour, that makes more sense.

[Dezzie]

There are verdicts?

[lostcorona]

awwwwww

[Variable]

Her name is Bai Ling. The character's name is Acherra (sp?).
thank you

[treygar]

she said....'that was three questions'....so we got our three answers for the week...lol....

[sunburst]

Lame excuse

[Dezzie]

"Get me out of this cage, ho!"

[ons20]

jacks got some barganing power again

[turok4n64]

would have been better if Alex replied with "Ben was never in charge..." sigh

[ScoobMaster]

Yeah baby, season 4 hook up! Alex and Jack

[GreenDayStoleMyGirlFrieND]

here we go....

*watches you all come crawling back* :D

[SimonO]

Nice bright red flower when Sawyer was talking to Karl. That usually indicates something big is coming.

[LPU]

Can't this episode go any faster?

[sunburst]

Alex is pretty, she doesn't look like her mom.

[ons20]

Nice bright red flower when Sayer was talking to Karl. That usually indicates something big is coming.

what? ive never heard of this.

[sunburst]

How come they aren't doing any more commercials for Dharma?

[lostboy]

This may be the worst episode of Lost ever....seriously.

[treygar]

ok....this episode is decent...obviously its a bridge episode...next weeks should be better the thing is though....can they get the viewers back after a bland episode this week...or are we just expecting too much????

i'm looking forward to these last 15 mins but still...the previous 30 minutes haven't really been fulfilling....

[chaz]

when do we get back to the beach

[ons20]

How come they aren't doing any more commercials for Dharma?

the "lost experience" is over for now

[sdunn96]

I noticed the red flower as well
Not sure why.

Guess they were there to watch Juliet get hung>.....even the kids.

[SpacedinLost]

Alex is pretty, she doesn't look like her mom.


And speaking of which... If the Losties have found Alex in just this short time, do we really believe Rousseau doesn't know where she is??

[LPU]

This may be the worst episode of Lost ever....seriously.

I think I agree.

[Dezzie]

So if the others have "verdicts", they have a legal system, right?

[turok4n64]

asking this since alot of people in here are reading right now...did we ever find out anything about Jacob - his list, Jacob loves you like God?

and is Jacob "him" that was mentioned when Ethan and others took Claire?

[sunburst]

And speaking of which... If the Losties have found Alex in just this short time, do we really believe Rousseau doesn't know where she is??

And Alex seems pretty resourceful. How come she hasn't found Danielle and wondered who she was?

[Dezzie]

THE CAVALRY! BEN!

[snakey]

wow, Bai LIng shoving her tongue down MF's throat, did anyone else see how it was out before she got to his lips, and she almost had her trademark nipslip in that scene.

[Dezzie]

Ethan was an excellent surgeon. Hmm...

[sunburst]

So Ethan was the surgeon. NICE

[chaz]

ben is hot with his shirt off

[SonOfSawyer]

And speaking of which... If the Losties have found Alex in just this short time, do we really believe Rousseau doesn't know where she is??

We even know now that they both live on the same island.

[Dezzie]

More Ben=better episode. This Ben-Jack stuff is great.

[sunburst]

I knew it! Can't trust that Juliet.

[ons20]

"hey whats that called when the doctors supposed to say stuff to make you, like feel god, dude?"

"bedside manner"

"yeah, well, yours sucks dude"

[Dezzie]

"Does Isabelle have a walkie"
"No, dad. We only have two"
"Darn. Well, guess Juliet dies."

[ons20]

jack loves stalking women

[sunburst]

I hope this flashback has some point to it.

[Dezzie]

"You following me"
"Well, duh,ho."

[sunburst]

Ah ok. The tattoos, got it.

[Dezzie]

Achara is creepy... "this is my gift"

[blondiejam]

oh brother. .... she is a psychic tattoo artist :rolleyez:

[blondiejam]

does she have feathers in her hair, or striped hair?

[Dezzie]

Who's Achara's "people"?

[sunburst]

Put it on me, baby.

[sdunn96]

just her hair

[lostcorona]

CORNY and feeding into the DESTINY line
:coffeedunk:

[blondiejam]

am i the only one who thinks this is ridiculous???? i mean, seriously?

[Dezzie]

That whole Achara-Jack scene was creepy...

[turok4n64]

OMG I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE!! SOMETHING HAPPEN!!

[SpacedinLost]

"My name is Juliet and I'm powerless over bad drama" "Hi Juliet"

[Dezzie]

WTF? Marked?

[treygar]

what did he do....order her to be 'barred'??????

[sdunn96]

seems like to many commercials

[ScoobMaster]

what the heck, why don't they actually do something that means something

[ons20]

gaaaaaaaaah, im only getting more annoyed with this show.

[Dezzie]

Why didn't Tom curb stomp Jack? Would've been so fun to watch.

[blondiejam]

what did he do....order her to be 'barred'??????


i didn't hear it either........ anyone?

[chaz]

so how they gonna mark her and how many weeks will we have to wait to find out

[sunburst]

Marked? Maybe the sweet tattoo artist will appear! LOL

[LPU]

This is garbage.

[sdunn96]

Yeah, this ep. is has not been that good....absolutely nothing.

And she will be marked.

[lostcorona]

i didn't hear it either........ anyone?

Pardoned

[treygar]

the scarlet letter anyone??????

[SpacedinLost]

way too many commercials... and this is by far the slowest epi in a long, long time. I thought we were supposed to have a lot of questions answered this epi?? The only one I've seen answered is "how long can I stay awake watching this boring episode?"

[Merciful Sky]

Whatever her being marked is, judging by the others' looks, it's not a good thing.

[chaz]

hi blondie
she has been ordered to be marked

[bigdaddyt98]

a burn on her back

[Mysterious Mike]

Shes gonna wear the scarlet letter.


I say cut her face.

[ScoobMaster]

To this episode I say "Get Lost"
oh yeah, bada bing

[lostboy]

The mark of the beast?

[Dezzie]

Dharma brand branding?

[sdunn96]

Yeah, I thought we were gonna get the answer to 3 questions.....

[sunburst]

So, what were the three questions they were supposed to answer?

[LPU]

Whoever wrote this episode should be marked.

[chaz]

I bet they take an eye

[blondiejam]

hi chaz! :wave2:


marked huh...... lol

[Fletcher]

"She will be marked." So, is Bai Ling one of the Others? Is that what she meant when she said marking Jack was against her "people"? The ambiguity of the last flashback was driving me crazy-- is she actually psychic. GAH!! Okay episode, though.

[lostgotme2]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
(sorry I couldn't help it.)

[sunnyskies]

Whatever her being marked is, judging by the others' looks, it's not a good thing.
Maybe it means she becomes one of the voices in the jungle?!!?!

[snakey]

She (Bai) has a dye job that is pretty cool, but I think the striped hair pieces are extensions.

[sunburst]

Jack looks hot in sunglasses.

[Dezzie]

Jack's going to get curb stomped by the yakuza!

[blondiejam]

beat-down!!!! lol

[turok4n64]

best thing this episode - Jack getting the crap beat out of him?

[sunburst]

Now there is some action!

[SpacedinLost]

ouch

[RabidWolfe]

CONSEQUENCES BABY!

Jack should never have been a stalker.

[Dezzie]

More of Jack getting his ass kicked!

"YOU LEAVE THIS COUNTRY, HAWAIIN SHIRT WEARING DOCTOR MAN!"

[blondiejam]

this makes absolutely NO FREAKING SENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! gah!

[ScoobMaster]

so getting marked is like a blanket party, without the blanket

[sunburst]

I would beat that woman's ass.

[Dezzie]

Jack got pwned!

[Dezzie]

"I heard you only liked them grilled"
"I LIKE THEM TOASTED, HO!"

[sunburst]

Ok, where is her mark?

[blondiejam]

ouch!

[ons20]

pot leaf?

[turok4n64]

whats that marking of?

[Dezzie]

What is the mark? Where do I recognize it from? Why can I only talk in question form?

[sunburst]

OUCH

[chaz]

I want a mark!!!!!!!!!!!

[bigdaddyt98]

Not only were there no big answers but even more questions. What was the point of this episode?

[sunburst]

It looks like an upside down.................something.

[SpacedinLost]

Jack's gonna lube her up... Cowboy up, Jack!

[blondiejam]

is it the flame? haha

[Dezzie]

Jack's got a plan. 'Cause that always works out.

"Home"?

[sunburst]

Oh no, they are going to take Jack away!

[chaz]

good bye alcatraz

[Dezzie]

Skate have arguments.

"I'm talkin' bout you...and me"

[sunburst]

Kate is looking a little yellow

[RabidWolfe]

This is what we call a "character driven episode"

Meaning: not much actually happens.

[SpacedinLost]

:(( Sawyer... c'mere cowboy....

[Dezzie]

Ben's under the weather.

"That's what they say. That's not what they mean."

Ship in background?

[treygar]

thats what they say, thats not what they mean!!!!....awesome quote.....

[bigdaddyt98]

I am amazed this far into the season and still nothing with the losties.

[lostgotme2]

Was that an ocean liner in the water? A battleship? Some big ship?????

[sunburst]

Jack should roll Ben right into the water.

[blondiejam]

TITANIC!!!!!!!!!! :rotfl:

[SpacedinLost]

PUH LEEZE

[bigdaddyt98]

that should be great for Bens back.

[turok4n64]

WORST EPISODE EVER

[sunburst]

Not too impressed with that episode.

[RabidWolfe]

The music says "Titanic" or "Black Stallion"

[ScoobMaster]

well, the music and montage were meaningless when you are pissed about the lack of content

[SpacedinLost]

Finally next week we'll see the losties! I miss those guys...