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Choppin Broccoli
01-06-05, 04:33 AM
There was some speculation a while back that Boone was gay. I think we got a hint tonight that it might be true. At the beginning of the show, Shannon says something to Boone about being alone in the forest with his "boyfriend" Locke, and Boone gives her a dirty look.
I first thought that Boone and Shannon were actually lovers, but that Boone spurned Shannon and told her he was gay, so rather than go into long explanations, they just decided to tell everyone they were brother-and-sister. However, I've heard a few comments that indicate (at least to me) that they really ARE brother-and-sister. I do, however, think it's being implied that Boone is gay, and that Shannon has some kind of problem with that. What her problem is, I have no idea, but they're clearly not on the best of terms.
Or, try this one on for size. The guy in St. Tropez with the kid she talked about tonight is actually a MUCH older man, and the "kid" is Boone. Maybe they got a quickie, Las Vegas-style wedding. So, technically, Shannon is Boone's "mom." It would explain their strained relationship, and the reason why they want people to think they are brother-and-sister (rather than explaining what their real relationship is and watching people's shocked reactions). It would also explain the comment from one of the earlier episodes where Boone says something to the effect that Shannon had traumatized her family in the past. It would likewise explain why Shannon "has a pretty good base" and doesn't get sunburnt (because her skin is used to it from living in St. Tropez for a while). If this were true, however, wouldn't it also stand to reason that Boone can speak French too? He was, after all, the owner of a movie that was entirely in French. I don't know. There's a lot of smoke there, but maybe someone can refine it and tell me if they think there's any fire.
MadKatKomix
01-06-05, 04:45 AM
With 47 survivors the odds are that at least 4.7 (let's say 4) are gay. I think Sawyer is probably the only one we can safely cross off that list. So the chances that Boone is gay I think are pretty high, especially after Shannon's comment tonight. I've skimmed over some speculation that there is some kinda incest going on between Shannon and Boone but I think that's probably one subject that is still taboo on a network primetime show. It would offend a helluva lot more people than Boone being gay would. At least I would hope so.
meekrob
01-06-05, 04:51 AM
First. That 10% of the population is gay is just such a bogus number it's not even funny. Hell, it's probably closer to 1% of the population. But I digress.
I remember seeing something from the producers that two of the castaways "have a different relationship than we are led to believe".
The Shannon is Boone's mom would be just brilliant.
MadKatKomix
01-06-05, 05:11 AM
Shannon is Boone's mom? That is just so ridiculous! She would have had to given birth while she was still in her mom's womb!
meekrob
01-06-05, 05:14 AM
"step" mom
MadKatKomix
01-06-05, 05:39 AM
Oh. Sorry!
LoStMyMiNd
01-06-05, 09:15 AM
Yup I think Boone is gay
maxpublic
01-06-05, 10:18 AM
First. That 10% of the population is gay is just such a bogus number it's not even funny. Hell, it's probably closer to 1% of the population.
It's probably closer to 5%. The funny thing is that bisexuals make up approximately 15% of the population (three times the number of gays), but neither straights nor gays seem inclined to acknowledge that fact.
So it's quite a bit more likely that Boone swings both ways than is gay, unless Abrams and company subscribe to the prevailing view that bisexuals don't exist unless they happen to be of the "Hot Bi Babe" variety.
Max
MadKatKomix
01-06-05, 11:59 AM
I got he 10% figure from a major study done back in the 60's or 70's by Kinsey or some other sex research person(s). It's been generally accepted as more or less accurate give or take. Of course it's 30 years later so maybe the number has changed.
maxpublic
01-06-05, 12:11 PM
Kinsey reported a higher number because he failed to distinguish properly between gays and bisexuals. Like many people who simply assumed that most people fell into two boxes - "left or right", "this or that", "either or" - and that anyone who presented a third option was an aberration.
What we know today is that gays comprise anywhere from 3-5% of the population (probably closer to 5%), and that bisexuals SEEM to make up about 15% of the population. But since bisexuals aren't easily distinguished from straights and are practically inclined to keep their preferences hidden due to discrimination most straights don't have the first clue who is and who isn't. And many gays are politically invested in denying bisexuality at every opportunity since the last thing in the world they want is to find that they aren't just a minority, but a minority of minorities. Not to mention the general hatred over the fact that bisexuals can "pass" whereas gays can't.
Max
MadKatKomix
01-06-05, 12:35 PM
.
I apologize for the crudeness of this response but it really is the most appropriate I could think of.
the fact that bisexuals can "pass" whereas gays can't.
"Bullsh*t".
maxpublic
01-06-05, 01:03 PM
the fact that bisexuals can "pass" whereas gays can't. "Bullsh*t".
Don't know what you're all lathered up about. Bisexuals CAN pass as straights if they're in a relationship with the opposite sex. You can't tell a bisexual from a straight person unless the bisexual clues you in. It's that simple.
Gays can't pass because their relationships are ALWAYS with someone of the same sex. They can hide being gay, but they can't pass. The two are different things.
Max
MadKatKomix
01-06-05, 01:20 PM
A crowd of people on the street. Cops that protect your neighborhood. Firemen who put out your fires. Barbers, Veteranarians, Plumbers, Phlebotamists, Teachers, etc.......you are saying that you can always pick out who is gay? In the general category of strangers, a gay person can pass as straight as easily as anyone else. When you start talking about their relationships...well, it seems to me you are not strangers anymore and there can be many other factors that let you know who is gay. Unless you actually see two men or two women walking down the street together holding hands and smooching, which sorta announces their sexual orientation. And how do you tell someone is gay who happens to be involved with no one at the time? For the record, I don't think Boone comes off as gay. But his sisters
remark I think is a big clue.
kaycee13
01-06-05, 01:28 PM
*Sigh*
I can't believe I am replying to this... but here goes.
Your ignorance in saying "Gays can't pass because their relationships are ALWAYS with someone of the same sex. They can hide being gay, but they can't pass. The two are different things" astounds me. Have you never actually met a gay person? Have you never heard of gay men and women entering into heterosexual relationships? It happens all the time, for various reasons. And "hiding" ones sexuality is the very definition of "passing."
With that being said, there are other threads that discuss Boone's sexuality - and I think the "Boone is gay" theory, while it might be true, is ridiculous to speculate about. The fact that several threads are discussing this just blows my mind. Does it matter if he is gay? Who cares?
MadKatKomix
01-06-05, 01:39 PM
The "Boone" is gay" talk is just one of a gazillion things being talked about by all of us LOST fans because I think we've now been conditioned to pick apart anything and everything that comes into view on the screen in search of some kinda answer to something! I don't think we know yet why knowing his sexuality may or may not be important, any more than we know why Kate keeps acting like a bitch in heat with Jack. look hard enough and you'll probably find a message "I Spotted a Species of Sea Gull that is Native Only To Norway!"
somewhere in a LOST forum.
killbuckner
01-06-05, 01:49 PM
Kaycee- I think you are missing the point in a bunch of ways. But for the "who cares" question- the reason people are asking is because IT IS FICTION. If Boone is gay then it is because the producers wanted that character to be gay because the plot of the show is going to be affected by it. Its not like these threads are asking whether he is gay in real life. Whether he is gay or not matters to the plot of the show.
MadKatKomix
01-06-05, 01:55 PM
A curious FYI.....I recently learned Ian Somerhalder has played a gay character at least 3 times recently including a guy who rapes his brother on LAW & ORDER SVU.
erock1331
01-06-05, 02:01 PM
I still think Boone is gay (fresh out of the closet) and stole Shannon's boyfriend right before they left town. That is why she has so much anymosity towards him.
meekrob
01-06-05, 04:30 PM
Canada Gov't study: 1% gay, <1% bisexual (http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/print/CTVNews/1087304033640_44/?hub=To&subhub=PrintStory)
study of sexual practices in the United States is the National Health and Social Life Survey (http://cloud9.norc.uchicago.edu/faqs/sex.htm)
the study reported to be 1.3% for women within the past year, and 4.1% since 18 years; for men, 2.7% within the past year, and 4.9% since 18 years
Now, gay advocates claim that both numbers are too low, and of course they are going to say that. Any minority group is going to want to make it seem that their contingency is larger, thus increasing their political muscle.
That said, I don't know why I brought up this topic. Really has nothing to do with the show, or Boone. Just something that I've always heard (the 10% number) and never thought was close to accurate, so I figured I'd check it out.
For the record, I think that Boone is gay. That boyfriend comment just irked him a bit too much. We'll find out in less than a week, I guess.
maxpublic
01-06-05, 04:35 PM
Your ignorance in saying
I think there's a misunderstanding here. A bisexual in a relationship with a person of the opposite sex is indistinguishable from a straight person, from the straight person's point of view. A gay person in a relationship with someone of the same sex is going to have to hide that relationship if they want to pass as straight.
The straight person will *never* know that the bisexual is bisexual, unless the bisexual clues them in. A straight person observing the *same behavior* between the two members of a gay couple will most likely figure out that neither person is straight fairly quickly, unless they're completely clueless and just think that the two are *really good* friends.
As to Boone being gay...I hope not. It's so bloody overused - Hollywood's token gay boy, dropped into the show to make some small segment of the viewers happy. I really, really hate that pandering crap. If they're going to do something this PC, then they'd better bloody well introduce THREE bisexual characters as well, just to keep the percentages accurate.
Max
MangaKhan
01-06-05, 04:40 PM
Being that there are more women in the world than men, it stands to reason that there are more straight women in the viewing audience than than gay men.
I would not think the producers would want to piss off all the fangirls out there just to please a small portion of the population.
That being said, I thought that Boone's reaction to his sister's comment about Locke being his boyfriend odd. Not sure if he was upset that she hit the nail on the head or if upset that he could not tell her the truth?
guess we will see next week.
iluvtheoldies
01-06-05, 04:43 PM
Ok, everyone, let's not get into an argument about the percent of gays/bis/lesbians or how you can tell. I think Boone might be gay (not to offend anyone) but he does look sort of gay-ish. I am a gay/bi/lesbian supporter, I think they deserve just as much love and respect as straight people, and if Boone is gay, then let's get gay pride flags and wave them whenever he comes on screen *waves flag*.
cccourt
01-06-05, 04:50 PM
Probably/Maybe/Could be...so what????
ccc
maxpublic
01-06-05, 04:50 PM
Re the comment by Shannon to Boone...I don't think it's that odd. If you listen to the kids these days they often use 'gay' as an insult, as in "that's so gay!". I've also heard a teen girl, on one occasion, ask her boyfriend if pal X is "his new boyfriend", using that as an insult and an indication that he's spending time with pal X when he should be spending it with her.
I think Shannon was just out to insult Boone (which they seem to do to one another regularly) by hitting on the first thing she's noticed, i.e., that Boone is spending a lot of time with Locke off in the woods. Intimating that a straight guy is gay is one of the Top Ten Insults of All Time with young straight men.
Max
Nevaraniel
01-06-05, 04:51 PM
Thank you, iluvtheoldies! I agree. The scary thing is that if I suggested that to my friends, we'd probably end up doing exactly that :lol
MangaKhan
01-06-05, 04:51 PM
Probably/Maybe/Could be...so what????
We are speculating and giving fourth our theories.
That's what.
JacksGirlfriend
01-06-05, 04:55 PM
He could also be gay.
JacksGirl
kaycee13
01-06-05, 05:13 PM
Two things:
First,
Probably/Maybe/Could be...so what????
Thank you, my point exactly.
Second,
Link (http://www.newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/nightlife/sex/columns/mating/10521/)
Lots of straight people experiment with same-sex sexual contact. (Just as lots of gay people experiment with folks of the opposite sex.) Prior sexual contact cannot be used as the definitive indicator of whether someone is gay.
And... he "looks gay-ish"? It's ridiculous that people still think that someone can "look gay."
:rolleyes
leftofpunk
01-06-05, 05:14 PM
yeah, totally gay, like, for sure. hehe
anyways. I have a bi-sexual friend in my acting class and the moment I saw him my gaydar went off...then it was diffused because i found out he had a GF. The a month later I found out that e was bi and it made sense. If you met him you'd totally think gay, when in fact he's bi. Now his new BF who is 100% gay is a lot more "flaming" but that's besides the point. A bi-sexual person is just as easy/hard to tell from a straight or gay person. I knew a 100% gay perso in the air force and didn't fid out he was gay till after I got out.
This "passing" crap theories is just stupid.
I think they might make him gay to mix things up (people being in close quarters) but I don't think it as anythig dto do with the mysteries of the island at all. It'll end up being filler.
MangaKhan
01-06-05, 05:19 PM
It's a TV show that we watch on TV. We are the consumers. We have every right to Speculate and Theorize to our hearts content.
In real life, maybe you shouldn't do that. Maybe it is taboo to wonder this about someone to a group, but this is the internet and this is what this site is for and specifically what this thread is for.
My speculation is that I don't know, and do not assume, but that his response to his sisters taunt was ambiguous and intentional by the writers and producers, and that is cause for speculation.
killbuckner
01-06-05, 05:29 PM
you guys realize you are talking about whether an ACTOR looks gay right? You understand that it is legal to have a straight actory play a gay character and vice versa right?
MangaKhan
01-06-05, 05:37 PM
Don't lump me in with "he looks gay crowd". I think he is effeminent to the point of being pretty, but he don't look gay. If he were flaming like those guys on "Will and Grace" that'd be different.
Course if he was flaming he would probably do better with his business. Remember the Cheers episode when Norm wanted to be a decorator. He had to act gay to get the job and when the people found out he had to pretend to be the plumber to keep the job.
immuneman
01-06-05, 06:06 PM
boone, effeminate...
no way
good looking with piercing eyes
oh yes
shannon hot in a dittsy model way
oh yes
boone gay
dont know yet
maxpublic
01-06-05, 06:33 PM
Prior sexual contact cannot be used as the definitive indicator of whether someone is gay.
*Current* sexual contact can't be used to determine if a person is gay or not. They could be bi; you wouldn't know one way or another just from that single point of data.
And Boone is pretty, but he's not a pretty-boy in the way that Leonardo DiCaprio is. More underwear-model pretty, the sort that women drool over.
If he is gay, at least lets thank the gods that they didn't give him some idiotic affected lisp, or a fascination with interior decoration.
Max
Cassis1
01-06-05, 07:10 PM
1) Can two of the three bisexual people be Sawyer and Sayid?
2) Boone's sexual preferences matter because if he's gay we can lay to rest (so to speak) the incest spec. And I think that having a gay character or two would play much better in the 8 pm time slot than having an incestuous character or two.
3) We can quibble about proportions of gay people to be found in society, but can we agree that within a group of about fifty people, the probability is that at LEAST one or two would be gay?
4) Boone and Locke would be a cute couple. But I think Boone has a crush on Jack.
drivexshaft
01-06-05, 08:48 PM
OMG! finally someone else agrees w/ me on this theory! i fist thought he was gay when he told locke that he is in the wedding business. that just doesnt sound like a straight guy job to me!
killbuckner
01-06-05, 09:08 PM
Maybe he is a straight guy in business of doing somethign with gay marriages which is why he was so sensitive to Shannon making a boyfriend joke about him.
cccourt
01-06-05, 09:42 PM
Boone is in the "wedding" business cause he hasn't a clue how to be a lifeguard. His MOTHER has a successful wedding planner busines...which has several subsidiaries. Boone runs one of them for her. He could be gay; that is not the reason he is running part of a wedding business.
ccc
MangaKhan
01-06-05, 09:59 PM
Don't know.
Million dollar wedding business or cool lifeguard job.
Tough choice, but I am going for the green over the pink.
mackski
01-06-05, 11:03 PM
Not sure if Boone is gay but that in itself would give the show some more depth. For better or worse it is all how you see it. Just let us speculate on every little thing here because it helps pass the time between episodes.
Jillian
01-06-05, 11:30 PM
The real issue here for me is how this affects his relationship with Shannon. (Or, rather, our speculation on their relationship.) There has been a lot of talk of incest or, if they're step-siblings, then some kind of an affair. If he is supposed to be gay (and I think so), then that answers that. No incest, no affair. So what is their deal? It leaves it open to new possibilities.
As for the "new boyfriend" comment: IMO, while this was meant to be a teasing, snarky comment, it does lead me to think that he is gay. She doesn't say "boyfriend," which would be more like "what are you... GAY?", like posters were saying above. She says "new boyfriend," which to me is more like she's teasing him not about being gay itself but about his relationship with Locke. Like Sawyer might say to Kate, "So, have you talked to your boyfriend Jack?" just to be snarky.
Not that I'm implying that there is anything going on between Locke and Boone, although Boone might find him and his survivalist attitude to be attractive (explaining why he's willing to go to such lengths for him)-- but I DON'T think and am NOT implying that they are in any way involved other than in this secretive project they've got going with the metal in the ground. I just think that Shannon was trying to get under his skin and make him tell her what he and Locke have been up to.
hppydppy1
01-07-05, 12:35 AM
hmm...lots of speculation here about boone. my 2 cents:
she is very wealthy, and they somehow connived to kill her parents/lover and they got this money. now they are passing themselves off as brother and sister. the comment was a stab at him, because i think maybe he was thought of as gay by others, because he never got into girls or is a virgin? just a shy "mama's boy"? or even if he was/is gay, i think he was a partner in crime with her. they have a darker secret than we think. she likes her pedicures and pampering too much. st. tropez is not a cheap place to live. (hey! what if shannon WAS a man???:eek so she is his "old" boyfriend) ok, let's not go there!)
AVRILFANTOO
01-07-05, 12:48 AM
Broccoli,
You may be on the right track. I have thought of those two things as well.
I caught the reference Shannon made (is that your new boyfriend)?
I also thought Shannon could be Boone's mom - she just had a kid VERY young and that's why she's still immature.
joepa15425
01-07-05, 01:11 AM
lets see, he was a life guard and the martha stewart of the wedding world, nope he's as straight as my brother the hunchback. A while back we had a word for a guy like Boone---SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
Mithril379
01-07-05, 02:15 AM
One thing that indicates to me Boone could be gay is that he hasn't claimed that he's gay. Everything else he claims he "is" turns out to look like a lie. He's no lifeguard, and the business he runs is a subsiduary of Mom's bridal business. He hasn't said he's gay, so there's still a possibility it's true.
azteclady
01-07-05, 02:35 PM
Moving to Boone's forum.
Cool discussion, by the way.
ETA: here's another (http://p073.ezboard.com/flosttheunofficalforumfortheabcseriesfrm10.showMes sage?topicID=19.topic) "is Boone gay?/is Ian Somerhalder gay? discussion.
Beto
MohammedShylock
01-07-05, 06:09 PM
In the ep12,have you ever noticed that Shannon said:"you and locke leave before sunrise and coming back after dark,is he your new boyfriend?"
There's a "new" in Shannon's words,means that there were some "old boyfriend"which indicate that Boone is a gay,Is that right?I just can't believe that!!!
devenish
01-07-05, 06:46 PM
hey guys did u ever think that shannon was just kiddin when she said that, i mean theyre brother and sister they mess around like normal brother and sisters do
SawyersMuse
01-07-05, 09:32 PM
i hope boone isn't gay b/c if boone is gay then i will have sympathy for him(because he will be out of place on the island) and i can't stand that man...
SBGoddess
01-07-05, 09:58 PM
Well, my theory is based in part on the promo pics for episode 13 to air next week...
Shannon and Boone are indeed brother and sister. They have been close for a number of years and Shannon may or may not have know that Boone is gay. However, things turn ugly when their father learns the truth about his son. A fight ensues and Boone ends up seriously huring his father. Somemone from the group calls the cops and Boone is taken to the police station and questioned (which is where we see Sawyer in the background). Now, Shannon is mad at Boone for hurting their father.
This doesn't explain why they were in Australia or on the plane, though.
^Any spoilers there? (I didn't look)
I'm kind of bored of these Boone=gay topics...It seems pretty judgemental based on really small facts.
Shannon could be insulting him, she didn't sound serious whatsoever. Also, the pause could account for him making up an excuse about the metal thing.
Plus, it sounds like some people are saying, "He's played a gay character three (two?) times, he must be gay here!"
:rolleyes
Things Fall Apart
01-09-05, 06:50 PM
I'm kind of bored of these Boone=gay topics...It seems pretty judgemental based on really small facts.
It is small, but everything on Lost is "small"--there is no detail to small to analyze here! :)
I personally think that it was a major hint--she COULD just be teasing him, but that's what x amount of the population would think. There are no throwaway lines on Lost, so I think it's significant. I don't care whether Boone is gay, but if he is, it is because it significant to the plot, and is therefore worth speculating about.
Landiggity
01-09-05, 07:50 PM
Did it occur to anyone else that if Boone wasn't actually gay, that Shannon bugging him about Locke being his "new boyfriend" is a little too un-PC?
It's weird that I'd think this, because I'm about the least politically correct person in existance.
Things Fall Apart
01-09-05, 11:23 PM
Can you see Shannon as the politically correct type? lol. Once you're stranded on an island, anything goes. I'm just playing the devil's advocate though. I do think her comment indicates that, at one point or another or currently, Boone has homosexual tendencies. We'll see Wednesday (I can't wait!) :)
Sarahs Monkey
01-14-05, 04:21 AM
I guess this debate is dead, huh?
Unless people still feel like insisting that he's gay...
feel free. ;)
Things Fall Apart
01-20-05, 10:27 PM
Boone is totally and undisputably gay! We never saw the sex. He couldn't perform and that's why Shannon was sitting on the chair fully clothed. She knew Boone was gay and was just trying to get a rise out of him.
Just kidding! :)
I really did believe that comment indicated some form of past gay activity...and I still think it was more than just a snarky comment....but I gotta say, the way Shannon just made him MELT--he seemed like the hot-to-trot stereotypical straight guy. Then again, he was in love with her...or obsessed, I should say...ah, poor Boone.
prydain15
01-24-05, 01:52 AM
How could you accuse Boone of being gay now that we have learned his pet obsession is Shannon? I mean...c'mon. How many gay guys have sex with the sister they are madly in love with? The only reason I think people accuse him of being gay is because of his looks.
Things Fall Apart
01-24-05, 06:54 PM
If you're talking to me, I don't think Boone's gay. My post above was a joke. :) I certainly don't think he "looks" gay, as if someone can. But I do think he's majorly hot! :)
weeniebeenie82
02-07-05, 07:17 AM
Damn he is so type cast as being gay, he was gay in Young Americans, in Rules of attraction, in Law and Order and now this?? I know hes pretty lokkn but seriously..
*iTs the eyes, the bedroom eyes* :b
ChewbaccasInnerWookie
02-07-05, 12:47 PM
he's to perty to play it straight LOL
privatebell
02-22-05, 11:45 AM
There's also a german series with the same premise called "Verschollen" which means Lost in german. In that series there is also a brother and a sister, twins actually. and in the german version the brother turns out to be gay. Difference is that in the german version these twins also have their parents on the island and that they are pretty close...
Just thought I should share!
SjW Is Lost
03-02-05, 01:57 AM
I would welcome it, and it wouldn't really surprise me as they'd have to tie up the loose ends RE. his little thing with Shannon.
Leandra
04-07-05, 12:30 PM
Interesting discussion ;)
After having read all of it (and having laughed quite a bit *g*) I wanted to add my 2 cents too.
a) looking gay-ish?
Well, there are some people that look so obviously gay that everybody would notice it. Boone's not one of them. He does in fact look pretty and neat, though, so it *could* be that he's gay. It is a fact that gay men tend to look better than straight ones... unfortunately *sighs* ;)
b) Shannons joke/comment:
It might have been just a tease, but the "NEW boyfriend" was kinda irritating. So it is possible that it was serious to some extent.
c) Incest:
Well, now we all know Shannon and Boone aren't really related. It's like Sebastian and Katherine in Cruel Intentions. So their love wouldn't be 'wrong' in any way.
I only watched the show up to ep 13, so I dunno about all the hints for him being gay; my gut told me from the beginning though, that he *might* be gay, or at least bi.
My theory on the whole thing?
Boone's sexually undecided. He was in love with his stepsister, but maybe his subconsciousness just made that up because he KNEW he'd never really have her.
He doesn't pay much attention to any of the girls on the island but forms quite strong bonds with the guys, which is another indicator. Officially it's just friendships, but maybe deep down it's more.
Maybe he did have some sort of relationship with a guy once but thought it was just an experimenting phase.
So... I think it's highly possible that he's gay but of course not sure.
Rougegirl
04-07-05, 01:34 PM
I honestly don't think Boone was gay. He was in love with Shannen and was too busy to pay attention to any other girls. He was constantly trying to help everyone, so he couldn't really have a relationship with anyone. Because he was always involved in something new. Shannen broke his heart, it was going to take him a long time to heal. He died before his heart could fully heal and before he could find another girl to be interested in.
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