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AllenRocks
10-28-04, 04:03 PM
This is my first post on here. There are a lot of great theories and ideas on the board and after watching last night I have one of my own.

Jack and Kate are Adam and Eve. Kate said last night that she didn't want to be Eve but she already is. Something has happpened in their world and it seems that everyone there has been placed in a "Garden of Eden". Each seeks a fresh start with something in their lives. Kate and her past, Jack and his dad, the Koreans and their relationship, Lock and his disability, etc... In the Matrix movies the same scenario played out. The world was reset and a few had to start it over. Which also brings up the "monster".

Suppose their is no monster but something symbolic of a higher power. Locke said that he looked into the heart of the island. God or a higher power can be differnet things to different people. To some he is vengeful. To some he is merciful (Locke). I'm not sure if he (it) will destroy those that aren't pure or if like those in the original Garden of Eden they will have to suffer.

It's just too ironic that the Adam and Eve reference would was used several times.

Aries7
10-28-04, 06:00 PM
I noticed the statement by Locke last night about Adam & Eve and judging by some of the statements Locke is making about the island, it makes me think that that statement has much more meaning than just chatter. I am interested to understand more about what Locke saw (Monster, etc.) as well as wonder if he knows that some of the others are keeping the French message a seceret. Judgeing from the age of the skeletons (About 60 years according to Jack, it would mean that they were there during the World War II era. I wonder who they were and what they were doing there at or around the time of the war......Perhaps French refugees escaping their former colonies which were overun by the Japanese, etc. Or perhaps a seceret base used by the French during the war (Which might explain power source).

IceKat55
10-28-04, 06:06 PM
First time poster, hi all!

What I'm most curious about re: Adam & Eve (other than who they were) is regarding the pouch that Jack pulled out of one of the pockets...a white stone and a black stone.

Like Locke's backgammon game - one is light; one is dark. What's the significance?

Aries7
10-28-04, 06:09 PM
Good point. More than just a coincedence. Each character that has been introduced so far has a yin & yang to their personality and it is becoming apparent that the island has a light and dark side as well.

JacksGirlfriend
10-28-04, 07:50 PM
IceKat & Allen: Welcome to you both of you.

Just going through some posts and noticed something.

Each character that has been introduced so far has a yin & yang to their personality and it is becoming apparent that the island has a light and dark side as well.

Aires: A lot has already been discussed about the backgammon game, the yin & yang, and the light and dark. But in everything I've read (which is a lot to be honest), I don't think anyone has ever pointed that these characteristics might lie in the island as well as the characters and the "creature".

We've talked about the "creature" and how it seems to behave in different ways and in different circumstances (and which may or may not be a representation of the island itself) and we've recognized the significance of the island as a separate entity, but I don't think anyone has pointed out that the island "has a dark and light side as well".

If someone has made reference, I apologize for not seeing it. But this struck me as a first and it's a very good point.

JacksGirl

killbuckner
10-28-04, 08:15 PM
The producers have already expressed their admiration for how crichton writes. I really think the inspiration for this series isn't Jurassic Park so much as Sphere. In Sphere there is just one leap one premise you need to accept, and the rest of the movie flows logically from that. I think the same thing will end up happening in lost. I think the Island wants the survivors to stop trying to leave but wants them to be happy. Once they take steps to make themselves happier and more content on the island, they are rewarded with something they want. But when they take steps to leave there are bad consequences. I am thinking there are also negative consequences to just being content to stay on the island, but they haven't gotten to that point of the story yet. But look at how Kate was almost attacked when in the tree, but as soon as she dropped the antenna the animal went away. The other times they were attacked by animals was when they tried to get the transceiver and when they tried to get signal. So when the animal approached locke, he was content to stay on the island and was rewarded with the boar instead of being attacked. No clue why the marshall and the pilot were killed, my best guess right now is that whatever reason everyone else has for being on the island those 2 didn't share.

But the end result is that I think the producers might be looking at it as if the island has a personality and once you start thinking about it in those terms much more of the plot makes sense.

drabauer
10-28-04, 10:20 PM
KillBuckner, as much as the idea of the "living" island kind of bothers me (it reminds me too much of some old Classic Trek storyline, like the salt monster or the cloud in love with the old astronaut), there is a lot of merit in your observations. The pilot certainly was trying to get off the island (or, IMO, the creature attacked the cockpit, not just the pilot), and maybe the scuba-diving woman appeared as though she might flee. But I am leaning less towards the island as alive (re: Solaris) than the creature/animals possibly controlled by someone. Although its been mentioned, I don't know if anyone has elaborated on the idea of the creature being mechanical. I am coming more and more to think that it might be a robot or a vehicle with superior camouflage.

killbuckner
10-28-04, 11:24 PM
Just wanted to elaborate a little more. The more I think about it, as I recall the pilot was the one that was trying to get the transceiver working while in the cockpit. The pilot was the one that tried to get the signal the first time and he was the one that determined the transceiver was broken. He even set the transceiver down a split second before he is ripped out of the cockpit.

I also think that the polar bear only attacked when sawyer was pressing to have Sayid check for signal but my details could be slighly off on that one as well.

Still nothing on why the Marshal would die under this theory. I think the Pilot and the Marshal are fundamentally different from everyone else because those were the 2 people that arrived on the island with major injuries while everyone else was barely scratched. But then again the island didn't kill the Marshal at all, it was (eventually) jack.

And I don't think the island will actually be alive. There will be some sort of explanation for that explains it a little more as there was in sphere but for now thats just the easiest way to think about it.

Rooster
10-28-04, 11:47 PM
KillBuckner I like your theory on the island,I also felt that Locke was being rewarded with the boar kill,and Jacks father leading him to fresh water(also reward).Good idea!! something to watch for.:D

leftofpunk
10-29-04, 05:00 AM
wow, I completely agree. These are the reasons LOST is the only show I watch on network TV.....That is of course untill January and 24 starts.