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Unnamed Redshirt Number 4
11-10-05, 10:30 PM
I know that in light of the most recent episode, not very many people like Ana Lucia to much of an extent at all. I respect that. That is your opinion, and you are free to express that.
Now allow me to express mine.
It is a universal truth that those who feel the strongest about something scream the loudest. At this moment, I'll assume it is agreed that the loudest folks are those who dislike Ana Lucia. So let this thread be open to those who would like to offer a polite rebuttal.
I think that Ana Lucia is being judged too harshly and prematurely. With this argument, I could go off into a long explanation of all the characters that people started off hating last season, but I shall spare you that.
The point is that we don't know anything about her beneath her paranoid, scared-sick-but-going-to-try-to-act-tough-to-protect-the-group surface yet.... at all. Now that Shannon is killed, people are going to hate Ana Lucia for it.
Not that other folks didn't already hate her. Why? Because she was brusque, distrusting, and seemingly didn't care about many people, namely, injured-Sawyer.
Now, I'd be the first to jump to dear Sawyer's side... but let's look at the whole picture here, people.
Ana Lucia is trying to do what is best for the group. We may not know exactly what happened to the Tailies yet, but we know enough to know that it was BAD. If she wasn't supposed to immediately distrust three strangers, then what was she SUPPOSED to do? Allow these possible "Others" to deceive and infiltrate their group, leading to a ghastly end for everyone whom she was trying to protect?
Of course, when she is assured that the three raftees are NOT the "Others," she still does not seem to be very hospitable to them. Here's why:
It is assuredly possible that many of the deaths/disappearances of the Tailies were caused by careless, stupid mistakes. Ana Lucia is sick of people making these mistakes, at the costs of others' lives. She sees the raftees on the verge of maybe making these mistakes, and wants to bite it in the bud before they all end up dead or worse.
Examples of instances we might (or might not) consider to be stupid mistakes, but Ana Lucia obviously does:
1) Running off into the jungle alone. (way to go, Mike)
2) Cutting through the "Others-infested" jungle, when they could possibly loop around on the beaches.
3) Undue questions and curiosity that might instill hysteria among the group if the wrong things are mentioned or discovered.
4) Taking unnecessary risks to save a single person, when those risks may put the entire group in jeopardy.
5) Failure to shut up and follow what seems to Ana Lucia to be blatantly essential orders, that are necessary to the group staying alive.
Right now, we are basically seeing the Tailies from an outside mindset. But among the Tailies, neither we nor Michael, Jin, or Sawyer have even the FAINTEST clue what should be considered moral, necessary, and for the greater good. Until we are exposed to what the Tailies have been through, we cannot properly judge their actions.
I will tell you this, and even those who disagree with me will have to acknowledge at least one fact: Ana Lucia and the Tailies are scared out of their wits. We might not understand fully why or how they got to this point, but they are FRIGHTENED STIFF! Their threads of courage are pulled so tight it's a wonder they haven't snapped yet. Did you not see the hysteria and terror in their eyes? Ana Lucia tries very hard to hide it to appear strong in front of the other Tailies... but it's there.
Don't try to apply rationality to people in that state of terror.
Hodgepodge
11-10-05, 11:20 PM
Unnamed Redshirt Number 4, I just culled this post from a thread bashing Ana-Lucia. I don't want people to think just because I have a severe case of lust where she's involved, but I honestly think as you do, she's doing what is expected of a leader. Protecting her group from all harm.
Apparently I'm the only one on the board who understands and accepts what Ana-Lucia did last night as an accident.
She went into a little detail, and apparently we'll get the whole picture next week, but the Tailies have gone throught an awful time on the island. They're all that's left of 23 survivors from the tail-section. How would you guys like it if someone came into your communities an stole some of your friends and relatives right from under your noses? We all would do what's necessary to protect the rest, and you know it!
Everyone heard the whispers, she told them to run, and she was sacrificing herself for the other travellers. Remember she said there was only one bullet. Shannon was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
LostBoy
11-11-05, 12:05 AM
I agree. I've seen the show long enough to recognize that the writers are tugging the audience towards disliking or downright hating Ana-Lucia, only to set up a big redemption scene. Look at what they've done with other characters...
Sawyer for example, was an extremely unlikable character (the women who went ga-ga for him because he was a hunky piece of man meat not withstanding). It was revealed that the reason he was such an ass was because he hated himself. And slowly but surely, they gave him a few redemptive scenes, notably his conversation with Jack about his encounter with his father. Now, even though he's still an ass, even the "non-man-meat-o-philes" don't hate the character.
I guess you can look at Shannon too. Super bitchy and self centered. Then we saw that she had self esteem issues. It took some time, but we finally saw more of her back story and it's revealed that she was a much kinder person before her bitchy step mother abandoned her and she had to fend for herself suddenly. We are left to presume she became the way she was because she learned to use her looks to get older men to take care of her needs. Then she bites the dust, just when we were getting to understand her. Oh well.
I have no doubt it will be the same with Ana-Lucia. It's funny that people are criticizing the writing because Ana-Lucia is so unlikable, when clearly it is EXACTLY what the writers want people to think. Hopefully her back story will be an interesting one.
I'm going to come out in this thread and partially retract all the negative things I said about Ana-Lucia last night. That was a knee-jerk reaction on my part and I should have known better than to run off half-cocked on emotion alone.
Now that I've had a night to sleep on it and a day to think about and discuss it verbally with some other Lost fans, (and if this is on the board above I have no idea. I read the board from the bottom up so this is as far as I've gotten) I classify what happened last night in the same vein as when we saw Charlie hanging in that tree. We never actually saw Ethan do it, we just assumed (and we all know what happens when we make assumptions).
I mean, what did we see? We see Shannon take off running and disappear out of site. We then hear the gunshot, then we see Shannon injured. Then we see Ana-Lucia holding the gun with the slide locked to the rear. What's that mean? It means she fired the last round in the magazine and the slide locks to the back for reloading so by that, we know she fired a round. However, we never saw her fire at Shannon, at least I didn't and I really need to re-watch the ending.
Anyway, with the exception of the shot of Ana-Lucia, everything is filmed/shown close up, from the waist up. We don't see anything on the ground anywhere. We all know that TPTB are infamous for showing us exactly what they want us to see at a given time.
All that said, I don't think Ana-Lucia shot Shannon at all, I think she shot, or shot at, the person who did kill Shannon. If Shannon was shot in the stomach, she wouldn't have died that fast. It was a matter of seconds from when we saw her to when she was pretty much gone. Unless she got shot with a shotgun, no way that single bullet wound killed her that fast. I think she got stabbed or impaled, that could possibly cause enough internal damage for her to expire as quickly as she did. We've already seen impalement once this season so it is on the table.
I would post this out there but I value everyone's opinion who go deeply enough into the board to read the character forums so I'm leaving it here. Someone's probably mentioned it up there but I haven't read that far up yet.
Just my .02. What do y'all think?
Hodgepodge
11-11-05, 01:27 AM
Leuthen says:...I mean, what did we see? We see Shannon take off running and disappear out of site. We then hear the gunshot, then we see Shannon injured. Then we see Ana-Lucia holding the gun with the slide locked to the rear. What's that mean? It means she fired the last round in the magazine and the slide locks to the back for reloading so by that, we know she fired a round. However, we never saw her fire at Shannon, at least I didn't and I really need to re-watch the ending...Leuthen, there's a thread here (http://p073.ezboard.com/flosttheunofficalforumfortheabcseriesfrm2.showMess age?topicID=5287.topic) that I'm sure you're going to enjoy reading. It's talking about the same thing.
TheBigCat
11-11-05, 02:20 AM
Sorry, Hodge, but I find nothing defenseworthy about Ana Lucia. There was some Charles Bronson movie (Not one of the Death Wish films but just like it) where he plays a former cop whose fashion designer girlfriend is being threatened by a Hollywood-stereotypical Mob figure. As the mobster's pet goon shows Bronson a gun, Bronson hesitates a bit. The mobster says something like "Ooh, afraid of guns." and Bronson's line is "Guns don't frighten me. Idiots with guns frighten me."
And that's Ana Lucia in a nut shell. she's carrying a gun that she knows to have one bullet, and she's going to use it on the first person that she sees because she's scared. Idiot. Plain and simply an idiot.
Some people are brought to being and doing their finest in the face of adversity. Others merely crumble into little more than hollow shells, and that is what has happened to Ana Lucia. She refers to the Others as "...animals, and they are smart." Well she is an animal, and is an idiot.
Hodgepodge
11-11-05, 02:37 AM
TBC, you don't find this a mark of a hero? As I said in my initial post, she was sacrificing herself to allow the others to get away. And I admit, she was going to shoot the first thing she saw. Loosing nineteen friends would make you do that.
Can we move beyond the AL was an idiot thought process? I mean, just damn!
Cat,
Come on, surely you can see the idiocy behind this.
Ana didn't kill Shannon! Come on! Remember back through a season and a half now of LOST. Surely you know it's not this easy! TPTB showed you, and I, exactly what they wanted us to see! You, nor I, know the entire story yet.
I swear, as much as I was the first person to jump the "hate Ana-Lucia "bandwagon last night, I'm amazed at the number of people who have decided to put logical thought processes aside with this.
I Like Freckles
11-11-05, 06:39 AM
Leuth-
so you've been hiding down here instead of slumming up in GD? I've been wondering. Figured you'd weigh in on the whole A-L didn't actually kill Shannon theory. Glad to see I wasn't wrong.
Unnamed Redshirt Number 4
11-11-05, 10:39 PM
Whoo! First post on the new board! (looks great by the way!)
I thought that we had some wonderful discussion going here, so thought I'd post some of the responses that were posted after the deadline for moving the forum:
Unnamed Redshirt Number 4:
I don't think it really matters whether Ana Lucia actually shot Shannon or not... I was trying to keep this thread from morphing into that debate, as I was intending this to be protecting her character from people who accuse her of being irrationally mean-spirited, evil, reckless, and stupid.If she didn't shoot Shannon, then that's wonderfully in her favor.But of course, if she DID, and accidently, that really doesn't immediately label her an idiot. I don't care what kind of training she might or might not have.She scared out of her mind, and rightly so.She's in charge of protecting several people.They are all walking through territory that they KNOW is incredibly dangerous.Someone just DISAPPEARED.Ethereal whispers close in all around them...And THEN...Something jumps out of the bushes at her.I don't know about you, but if I were in that position, I would SHOOT.
LostBoy
Agreed URN4... I think Ana Lucia did kill Shannon, accidentally. The way it was presented was for the sake of drama, not to obscure who actually killed Shannon. We haven't even seen how she is going to react to this. Hopefully, this should shake her from her tough enforcer exterior. Just a question for those who hate Ana Lucia for firing the gun. What exactly makes what Ana Lucia did worse than what Sawyer did, killing a man in a thouroughly premeditated way. We can even ignore the fact that Sawyer killed the wrong man, and I still think Sawyer’s actions was far worse.
DohBoy
1. I'd like everybody to write me an essay that compares and contrasts Ana Lucia shooting Shannon with one of the following:a) Sayid & Jack's torture of Sawyerb) Sawyer's shooting of Frank Duckettc) Locke's lighting of the fuse to blow up the hatch knowing Hurley was going to get himself blown up2. Now, imagine it was not Ana Lucia, but any other character (Mr. Eko, Libby, Sawyer, Michael) who accidentally shoots Shannon. Do you still carry the same hatred? Or do you find yourself making excuses for that person's hypothetically bad actions?I think there are a lot of Ana Lucia haters on the boards. I also think that viewers need to direct their frustration at the show towards characters. Four episodes into last season, if I told you "A character from the tail section of the plane is going to shoot and kill Shannon next season," a lot of you would say, "Great! I hate that bitch." Today, Shannon is being canonized while the new hatred and demonization is being directed toward Ana Lucia.I'm just putting a bit of perspective on all of this. Take it for what it's worth. I think it's fine for us to demonize Ana Lucia (even though I don't think she shot Shannon). It's fun to have a bad guy. Who knows, maybe she ends up exiling herself the way Sayid did. Maybe she catches up with the Others and saves all of the children from them.I would like to invite each of you to keep an open mind. It keeps the show a lot more enjoyable, in my opinion.
Unnamed Redshirt Number 4
I agree Dohboy. I, for one, do not particularly like Ana Lucia, I'm just trying to cut down the whole "omg i hate that bitch why did she shoot shannon?1!!?!!?!11ONE!!11!!" attitude, that doesn't even begin to appreciate the circumstances.It is great to have a bad guy, but make sure you understand her before you fume and rage about her all over the forums.
feigenbaum
I'm hating her because she killed Shannon.I liked her before.If it had been any other character I would have disliked them to the same extent, Michael, Jin, Kate, anyone.
Lost In His Eyes
11-11-05, 11:31 PM
Alright, I figured I should post here sometime since I also don't believe that AL killed Shannon. I'm thinking it was an 'Other' or something and that maybe AL was shooting at them. I still don't like AL, but that doesn't mean that it's not possible that she didn't kill Shannon.
I still don't like AL, but that doesn't mean that it's not possible that she didn't kill Shannon.
To be completely fair, I too have to admit it's possible AL did kill Shannon but that just wouldn't be very LOST would it? Meaning, it's too simple a solution. Too easy.
TPTB definitely don't subscribe to the Occam's Razor theory.
guylikeu
11-12-05, 12:51 AM
I really dont see how the scriptwriters could have made it any clearer that AL shot Shannon. I just dont get why people are debating this - it's a mute point
They set up the whole thing whith the gun, and having one bullet. They showed the tailed getting spooked, then AL raising her gun and shouting. They showed Shannon running toward the tailes shouting. There was a gun-shot, and Shannon was shot. AL was point a gun at Shannon, then pulled away, looking guilty ond like "OMG, what have I done?". Then Sayid give AL the dirtest look EVER
How people can have watch the same episode and not understood that AL shot Shannon.... I'll never understand that
Having said that - we cant judge AL for doing something that 90% of people would have done in the same situation. I'm sure she'll feel remorse and feel probably worse than Sayid does, so I'ma wait and see how she reacts now, so I definitly am on her side right now
Lost In His Eyes
11-12-05, 01:15 AM
They set up the whole thing whith the gun, and having one bullet.
Exactly! They made it too easy to believe that AL shot her. Wouldn't it be just like TPTB to go through all the trouble just to throw us off?
Wouldn't it be just like TPTB to go through all the trouble just to throw us off?
Yep! That's why I don't believe AL killed Shannon. Too easy IMHO. Time will tell I suppose, I just ain't buyin' it right now.
Unnamed Redshirt Number 4
11-12-05, 06:48 PM
Having said that - we cant judge AL for doing something that 90% of people would have done in the same situation. I'm sure she'll feel remorse and feel probably worse than Sayid does, so I'ma wait and see how she reacts now, so I definitly am on her side right now
Agreed!
guylikeu
11-12-05, 09:51 PM
Exactly! They made it too easy to believe that AL shot her. Wouldn't it be just like TPTB to go through all the trouble just to throw us off?
Ok, I guess that's fair enough. But I guarentee that next week (or the week after, depending if next episode is all flashback) it will pick up with Ana-Lucia explaining her actions, apoligising, "I didn't know!" etc etc
TheBigCat
11-13-05, 10:37 AM
Actually, I am starting to buy into the idea that Ana Lucia didn't shoot Shannon. Now that I have had time to cool down and not want to see her turned over to the LOST-TV Pirate Crew for a good keel-hauling, that is. I have even taken down the sig which said "Dear Javier; Please kill off the Ana Lucia character" and replaced it with a nice picture of Serenity.
(I wanted to transplant this stuff I wrote but got left back on the other forum. - Doh)
1. I'd like everybody to write me an essay that compares and contrasts Ana Lucia shooting Shannon with one of the following:
a) Sayid & Jack's torture of Sawyer
b) Sawyer's shooting of Frank Duckett
c) Locke's lighting of the fuse to blow up the hatch knowing Hurley was going to get himself blown up
2. Now, imagine it was not Ana Lucia, but any other character (Mr. Eko, Libby, Sawyer, Michael) who accidentally shoots Shannon. Do you still carry the same hatred? Or do you find yourself making excuses for that person's hypothetically bad actions?
I think there are a lot of Ana Lucia haters on the boards. I also think that viewers need to direct their frustration at the show towards characters.
Four episodes into last season, if I told you "A character from the tail section of the plane is going to shoot and kill Shannon next season," a lot of you would say, "Great! I hate that bitch." Today, Shannon is being canonized while the new hatred and demonization is being directed toward Ana Lucia.
I'm just putting a bit of perspective on all of this. Take it for what it's worth.
I think it's fine for us to demonize Ana Lucia (even though I don't think she shot Shannon). It's fun to have a bad guy. Who knows, maybe she ends up exiling herself the way Sayid did. Maybe she catches up with the Others and saves all of the children from them.
I would like to invite each of you to keep an open mind. It keeps the show a lot more enjoyable, in my opinion.
Hodgepodge
11-15-05, 12:12 AM
DohBoy, I love you man! :yeah:
Lost In His Eyes
11-15-05, 12:12 AM
DohBoy! You made it! Glad to see ya Cap't! :D
:clap: Thanks DohBoy! Couldn't have said better myself. However, I would have still have said "Great! I hate that bitch." Right up until the end. Sorry Shannon lovers but I'd rather have Boone around than Shannon.
Hodgepodge
11-17-05, 04:48 PM
Well, now we know! The Tailies have had a hard time these last 48 days. I personally think Ana-Lucia is a hero. She went back into the water to save several passengers. Implimented CPR on the little girl and brought her back to life. Seems like a parallel to Jack doesn't it? And wasn't that a touching moment when she fell into Eko's arms emotionally drained?*Where did I put those Kleenex?*
Then to be awaken in the middle of the night, to find your fellow survivors being carted off. Who wouldn't act the same way when they come across Jin, Sawyer, and Michael?
I say layoff Ana-Lucia!*Plus, she's hot!*
:yeah:
I concur, Hodge!
In addition, while I was watching the entire episode, I kept thinking it was like a horror movie - where everybody keeps doing stupid things and getting killed, until they finally start to listen to the one smart person who actually makes sense!
She's the one who wanted to get off the beach; she knew there was a plant in the group, and eventually discovered who it was. She ACTUALLY got ANSWERS out of Goodwin, unlike her counterparts on the other side of the island! She may be mean, but she's smart, and she's a true survivor.
And she's hot. Has anybody mentioned that yet?
mzsandeestar
11-17-05, 09:19 PM
I agree . Everything Ana did she did to protect the group. I don't understand why people are not looking at the big picture and realizing that she a good leader.
Yeah that Nathan guy deserved to be thrown in a cage for 4 days and then murdered because he was left all alone. She's a saint!
Seriously, this lady is a ends justify the means &(@#$. If she would think for 5 seconds rather than just react poorly to the first thing that crosses her mind, maybe people would like her a little more. Instead she won't accept anyone else's opinion on anything and kills anything in her way. Bye Nathan, bye Goodwin, bye Shannon, you're next Sayid, hey Aaron what are you looking at?, what did you say Locke? you want a piece of this? etc.
I say Hurley makes a nice Ana Lucia BBQ and the lostaways have a canabalistic party to pass the time.
rather than just react poorly to the first thing that crosses her mind
Was trying to get off the beach a bad reaction? Figuring out there was a mole in the group endangering everybody - bad reaction too? Figuring out who the mole actually is and killing him after he attacks her ... bad reaction.
Same with the pulling of people out of the water, saving Bernard, and the CPR on the little girl.
You're surrounded by whispers, one of your group members just disappeared, you know the people out there are killers. Your life, the life of everybody around you, depends on the gun in your possession. You might be able to buy them time to run away, but you may not be able to save them all. Not with the number of Others there are. Not with their stealth, their ruthlessness.
Somebody barges out of the thicket.
I could wait a second longer to see if the person is friendly - by the way, the chances of that are slim-to-none.
Or, I could wait a second longer and possibly die and ensure the death of everybody around me. Probability on that one is pretty high.
Do I pull the trigger? The true question is: do I live or do I allow everybody around me to die?
guylikeu
11-17-05, 11:54 PM
I'd just like to point out that I said all along AL shot Shannon, even though lots of people didn't believe it
*big grin*
I say layoff Ana-Lucia!*Plus, she's hot!*
I couldn't have said it any better Hodge! I don't mind being wrong about Ana-Lucia (I thought she didn't kill Shannon) after what I saw last night. It's been much more difficult for the TSS in the past 48 days than for our main group. Personally, I loved the way she killed Goodwin off! I hated that a-hole from the very beginning and he just seemed out of place.
Also, that scene with Ana-Lucia and Eko! :faintthud
(I agree, she's hot!)
Unnamed Redshirt Number 4
11-18-05, 01:27 AM
Also, that scene with Ana-Luckia and Eko! :faintthud
Oh dearie me, yes! I nearly bawled my eyes out. :swoon: :baby:
Hodgepodge
11-18-05, 02:23 AM
DohBoy, I want you to know your last post brought that whole episode back to life.
Long live Ana-Lucia!*I wonder why no one has mentioned she's hot?*
Eko~Fan
11-18-05, 02:49 AM
Everyone's talking about how she's such a 'great leader' and a hero and stuff, but that just one side of it. Admittedly, helping save people and doing CPR on the little girl was great, but really, she wasnt exactly injured so its sort of expected. And ya, she found the mole eventually, but only after imprisoning and starving a seemingly innocent person, and I dont think there's any doubt that she would have resorted to torture (cutting off fingers and such) had not Goodwin killed Nathan. As for being a good leader, it seems to me she just likes bossing people around. A good leader listens to the people she leads. Ana Lucia does what she wants and doesnt give a rats ass if the others agree. Ya, thats a great leader.
I agree with Zeek. I hope she dies.
boonian androphile
11-18-05, 03:07 AM
Even though Ana Lucia apparently shot Shannon, I will wait for the autopsy. Shannon wasnt exactly moving briskly when she appeared. Maybe it was the thick undergrowth impeding her steps, but I thought she was moving oddly before the gun actually fired. I have just decided that while an Ana Lucia & Sayid conflict might prove exciting I am hoping that something else was going on. Anything could have happened between the point that Shannon ran ahead of Sayid and when she met up with Ana Lucia et al.
Dohboy raises a good point about how people generally felt about Shannon last season vs this season. After Boone's death, Shannon began to soften and that process continued until her demise. I never really disliked her but saw her in terms of pain and dysfunction. She really had no place else to go but up in terms of how we perceived her. Meanwhile Ana Lucia has perhaps gone in a reverse direction. Starting off good and heroic, the Jack counterpart of sorts, she has emerged as a colder, tougher, more cynical person. That results from the environment she and her peers have lived under. The tailenders as it turns out were always in greater danger. I dont think that a carefree game of golf was ever a possibility.
juanbong
11-18-05, 01:34 PM
Every show needs a good antagonist, and why not Ana-Lucia. Easy on the eyes, now in hot water with Sayid (maybe even more later on), leads with gusto, is quick thinking on her toes, and more than likely harbors a dark secret. She is only going to make the season go by smoother.
the end of innocence
11-18-05, 02:29 PM
Everyone's talking about how she's such a 'great leader' and a hero and stuff, but that just one side of it. Admittedly, helping save people and doing CPR on the little girl was great, but really, she wasnt exactly injured so its sort of expected. And ya, she found the mole eventually, but only after imprisoning and starving a seemingly innocent person, and I dont think there's any doubt that she would have resorted to torture (cutting off fingers and such) had not Goodwin killed Nathan. As for being a good leader, it seems to me she just likes bossing people around. A good leader listens to the people she leads. Ana Lucia does what she wants and doesnt give a rats ass if the others agree. Ya, thats a great leader.
I agree with Zeek. I hope she dies.
Ditto, my exact thinking.
I must say, That based on the preview, I am absolutely dreading Episode 8. My worst fear is becoming true. The F'n bitch "I'm your momma you do as I say" attitude is going to contunue when she gets to the main camp. IN SPITE of killing an innocent person. IN SPITE of no character credentials to lead ANYONE. IN SPITE of the fact that there are already people in charge.
BAHHHHH!
SHE showed no real remorse, just an "oh shit" look. TPTB clearly want us to hater her and HATE her I shall.:mad: I only ask one thing. They can do whatever they want and she can take over the whole island for all I care, but so long as she occasionally has her ass kicked, so I can feel better. I want to see blood. Hopefully there will grow two factions and she will steal some of the guns and begin a war over a disagreement about the numbers or how to be rescued or something. Or maybe she will take over the Hatch and kick everyone out but her little band she protects, that would be great. (I actually see that happening so get ready.)
seemingly innocent personNathan was never seemingly innocient.
I dont think there's any doubt that she would have resorted to torture (cutting off fingers and such) had not Goodwin killed Nathan.If resorting to torture is such a bad thing, then why don't you hate Jack just as much? Jack has Sawyer tortured over some asthma medicine, and it turned out they didn't even need it.
Ana Lucia considered torture only after they killed at least one of the Tailies, then ran off with 9 more, including two children she swore to protect. She and every other person's life was in serious danger. Whose torture is more justified, Ana Lucia's or Jack's?
By the way, I didn't see Jack feel any remorse for all the crap he's put Sawyer through.
The fact that Goodwin killed Nathan is proof of the Other's utter disregard for human life, and proof of the danger the Tailies are in.
Ana Lucia does what she wants and doesnt give a rats ass if the others agree. Ya, thats a great leader.Ana Lucia hasn't twisted anybody's arm to follow her. She has been decisive in a time when nobody else knows what the hell to do. The Tailies follow Ana Lucia because they want to, because it keeps them alive.
If Eko trusts her, I trust her.
TPTB clearly want us to hate her and HATE her I shall.:mad: Well said - I think you hit the nail on the head.
Jack has a Nurse 44
11-19-05, 10:02 PM
I like Ana- Lucia.........she be cool.
Just because we're hurt by Shannon's loss, it was an accident and she was terrified. Ana-Lucia does feel really terrible for what she did by the look on her face!!!
I loved when she killed Goodwinn, although....I was rooting for her the whole time!!!
Seen beautifully here. (http://lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-promos/sea2/48days/48days-promo32.jpg)
(Nurse, please edit your picture sizes in the future. This one was rather large and if it makes my window scroll, it's damn sure too big! Something about a third that original size would be just about right. Thank you.)
Unnamed Redshirt Number 4
11-20-05, 06:44 PM
Feel special, Ana Lucia, for I have overcome my technological incompetence to create a signature in your honor.
:cool:
brisa25
11-21-05, 04:18 AM
Feel special, Ana Lucia, for I have overcome my technological incompetence to create a signature in your honor.
:cool:
I like your sig!! and i support ana lucia!!!
Cookie Monster
11-23-05, 03:43 PM
Ok, I've arrived late this party. I do like Ana-Lucia. Here character is interesting to tsay the least. I wonder how whe is going to gell with the main group of survivers.
Unnamed Redshirt Number 4
11-23-05, 05:22 PM
I agree Cookie Monster. Shall be interesting indeed. And we shall find out tonight!
Ana-Lucia
11-25-05, 12:15 PM
Oh poor Ana! Her baby was killed!
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