in defense of Michelle Rodriguez

[yraz]

I read from a website which i found in www.lostlinks.net that she was reluctant to take part in television show because she might get overexposed, giving the wrong impression to independent film makers. I think people should just keep in mind that not all actors want to be merely famous, some people are in it for art's sake too and I think people should respect that.

Check out the comments posted on that link. Kind of sad how people don't respect actors that much

[LostInWilderness]

This belongs in Michelle's forum. I see no link to check out.

[yraz]

oh sorry here it is

eurweb.com/story.cfm?id=22823 (http://eurweb.com/story.cfm?id=22823)

[Clairvoyance]

What are you defending her against?

ETA: Nevermind. I see the problem. If you don't prefer her fine. But, to be dissing the character this early on? Hello! Everyone hated Sawyer at first and now look.

[yraz]

check out the comments from that link i posted. There all like "oh she's a low-level actress who needs lost." Some people also commented that she thinks she's above tv or something like that. kind of pi$$ed me off. :)

[Brian]

The people like those 8 who bothered to leave comments do so simply because they don't have anything positive to say about her. They're partially akin to those running around here begging TPTB to kill her off ASAP.

I agree with Clairvoyance, initially there are always characters that you don't like regardless of the actor/actress playing them. Sawyer, and Kate topped that list for me during 3/4 of S1. Now I love both of their characters. On the flip side, I liked Charlie all through S1 but I haven't seen one thing I like about him now. All of that said, each actor/actress contributes to the show in their own way. It wouldn't be LOST without any of them. Now that we've been introduced to Ana-Lucia, I for one am willing to give her a chance.

Thanks for the link yraz!

[yraz]

i have a question (although its not really connected to ana lucia anymore).

When you said that you dislike charlie, do you mean you don't like how he acts on the island or how he's written? I particularly like how in episode 4 season 2, he keeps asking hurley and locke to let him on the big secret regarding the hatch. it seems to make sanse, considering he wasn't the star of driveshaft and how he has this need to belong to the "in crowd" of the island. being a bassist is a thankless job that links the rhythm and the melody, but no one cares about the bassist. hehe just a thought

[the end of innocence]

having just posted some very negative A-L thoughts in the "ruin" topic, and feeling like the pressure is off my chest...
I honestly think that she could be an asset to season two depending on how the plot goes. (I dont do the spoiler thing)

Her tough girl attitude can only go so far, she had better show her tender side (very tender..) and soon. ;)

OR, show her truly violent side... I mean guns and explosions fights and blood.

Sex and violence.. two things the show has done tastefully so far, but a teaser episode would be nice. She fits the bill for both nasty sex and nasty violence... :eek

Dont worry, I'm sure the show would settle back to tits old self after an episode or two. No need to change the recipe of the show.

[Ana-Lucia]

ETA: Nevermind. I see the problem. If you don't prefer her fine. But, to be dissing the character this early on? Hello! Everyone hated Sawyer at first and now look.

Exactly. You should give her a chance., you don't have to say she's your favourite character, but hating her is not nessesary

[LostInWilderness]

I just noticed she was in Resident Evil. I liked that character. Very different that Ana Lucia. Both are tough, but Ana Lucia is sadistic, not as capable, and a danger to her allies as well as enemies.

[lostmio]

It's amusing that so many posters here and in other Lost forums have been reacting exactly like soap opera and wrestling fans do when a new villian comes onto the block or into the ring.
They boo, hiss, project, rant, rave, and call for the actor's dismissal and the character's demise.
Usually it lasts until a new baddie comes along.

[KateShepard]

I really dislike Michelle. I hate her whole persona and how she always picks the same roles to play. In my own personal opinion, she picks the same roles because she isn't that great of an actress to begin with so she sticks to what she can do well. If she didnt' want independent filmmakers to be turned off by her being in tv, then why the heck did she sign on to do Lost which is probabnly the most popular tv show at the moment? I'm sorry but that comment ticks me off if its' true, then she's a hypocrite. "Oh I dont want to piss off indie directors, but still I want to be the most hated person on the highest rated tv show EVER". Makes no sense. Sorry.

[DohBoy]

It's amusing that so many posters here and in other Lost forums have been reacting exactly like soap opera and wrestling fans do when a new villian comes onto the block or into the ring.
They boo, hiss, project, rant, rave, and call for the actor's dismissal and the character's demise.
Usually it lasts until a new baddie comes along.

GOD I hate Sami! She's evil I say, PURE evil!

[Ana-Lucia]

Do you know why she pics those same roles? Because she won't play a role where she has to take her clothes off. She won't play the whiny
victim either. So whats left?? Tough girl. And what she meant by that was that while she doesn't want to be tick off any indie directors, but she still wants to be on LOST. duh....

[azteclady]

Could be that she's also a victim of type-casting - whether deserved or not, it does happen.

For the record, though: I haven't seen a whole lot of acting from her so far in LOST, but I haven't seen anything else she's been in, so I have no material for a more in depth study of her acting abilities

[Ana-Lucia]

Watch The Fast and the Furious, and Girlfight, and Resident Evil

[azteclady]

Thank you for the suggestions, but...





nah.

I really don't have the urge to watch anything else she's been in. Once/if she wows me with her acting in LOST then I'll look for more of her stuff.


edited to move the red text to its proper place. I have no clue what happened there!

[wickedsweet]

ana-lucia said
Do you know why she pics those same roles? Because she won't play a role where she has to take her clothes off. She won't play the whiny
victim either. So whats left?? Tough girl.

What's left? Young woman who uses her brains instead of violence? Romantic comedy? Young professional? I'm sorry but to imply that women in Hollywood are relagated to only roles that consist of being naked, a victim or a hard ass is just silly. Perhaps MR's choice of roles are limited by her abilities and not by the quality/subject of roles that are available.

[Brian]

I agree with you wickedsweet, there are more roles out there. However, if you go to the top of this forum and read Kaylas post from Canadian TV Guide (this thread (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3181)), you'll see Michelle Rodriguez limit herself to roles available. It was MR who suggested it first, I think Ana-Lucia was just repeating it above. For what it's worth, if those are the only roles she honestly thinks is available, then she is severley limiting herself.

[Ana-Lucia]

She has also said that she is type cast.

[Ana-Lucia]

You say she only plays certain roles. Well, Emilie de Ravin for example, usually plays, the innocent victim. She can't play the hard core type Michelle plays, she just looks so sweet. In my opinion, anyone hates Michelle Rodriguez's persona is merly afraid of her, someone like her. It's
understandable sorta, but that has nothing to do with her character.
I don't personally like Naveen Andrews, but I like Sayid. I would never want to be friends with someone like Naveen Andrews, but that doesn't
mean I hate him, or Sayid.
Oh and azteclady, I think if she can cause so much trouble, so much emtion to come out of people, I'd say she was a darn good actress.
She demands attention you must admit that. There are people that hate her witha passion, or love her with a passion.
Michelle R. doesn't want to play just the girl who falls in love. Whats wrong with that? Obvioulsy people are writing scripts that calls for the tough girl
role, and someone has to play them. Preferably someone who does it well, Michelle Rdoriguez.

[azteclady]

(...) Oh and azteclady, I think if she can cause so much trouble, so much emtion to come out of people, I'd say she was a darn good actress.
MR is causing a lot of talk, I grant you that. However, being at the center of a controversy doesn't necessarily mean that the reason is her good acting. In fact, if you'll but read the many threads all over the forum on this issue, you can plainly see that there are many fans of LOST who are disgusted with MR's inclusion in the cast because they don't think she can act her way out of a paper bag.
She demands attention you must admit that. There are people that hate her witha passion, or love her with a passion.
Yes, there are. Some hate the character, some hate the actress. Some love both. Some like both. Some are indifferent to the actress, yet hate the character. Some are indifferent to the actress. As far as I'm concerned, MR doesn't demand my attention, and Ana Lucía is poorly written. As I said before, maybe the writers can render the character more interesting, and maybe the actress can show more ability than she has so far.
Michelle R. doesn't want to play just the girl who falls in love. Whats wrong with that? Obvioulsy people are writing scripts that calls for the tough girl role, and someone has to play them. Preferably someone who does it well, Michelle Rdoriguez.
I am not an expert, which gives you instant ammunition to blast my opinion all to hell. But - when an actor can only do one type of character well, it's generally acknowledged that said "actor" can't in fact act.

You'll notice I snipped the Emilie DeRavin and Naveen Andrews bit. We can talk about them, if you like, in their forums.

[Warthawg1]

She has also said that she is type cast.

Ok... now first of all she says she is type cast, then we see a list of types of characters she refuses to play?

Guess what... actors play roles. The best ones can play many types of roles, and don't always refuse ones that are outside of a given mold.

However, I'll just let that one go and comment on her favorite type of role; the tough no nonsense gal. Guess what? IMHO, there is more to being tough than having a nice sneer. That pretty much sums it up for me, and I don't buy that because I don't like her character that it must mean she's a good actor. There are lots of characters that I love to hate, and THAT is the mark of a good actor. I don't love to hate Ana Lucia.... I just don't like her character and think it's a distraction from a good cast and a good show. That's not the good kind of hating on a character.

Plus, I am amazed by how all those who love MR and Ana constantly tell me that me not liking her is because I don't like strong women and other BS similar to that. Face it... a lot of people don't like her and their opinion is every bit as valid as those that do. You think she's a great actress, and that's fine and dandy by me. We just have a difference of opinion on that subject but I am not going to start telling you why it is you like her. You know why you like her, and I know why I don't, and my reasons have nothing to do with not liking strong aggressive women characters.

[Khan]

well, [/I]Michelle Rdoriguez.
Afraid of MR? You have to be kidding,lady you have no idea of who and what some of us have to deal with in real life.This egotistic gangsta wannabe doesn't rate a slight shiver much less fear.She's just an annoying piece of trash that's ruining my favorite show.
Sure she "demands attention", so does a stopped up commode.
And as far only taking these roles because she doesn't want to take off her clothes,where was that modesty when she was mooning people not too long ago? Oh of course she doesn't want to appear totally nude, but it's okay to show her ass.

[Warthawg1]

Sure she "demands attention", so does a stopped up commode.

AHHHH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAAAA!! That's a goodun!

[wickedsweet]

azteclady said
I really don't have the urge to watch anything else she's been in.
Does that mean the MR movie marathon I was planning at your place is off?;)

I agree with you wickedsweet, there are more roles out there. However, if you go to the top of this forum and read Kaylas post from Canadian TV Guide (this thread (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3181)), you'll see Michelle Rodriguez limit herself to roles available. It was MR who suggested it first, I think Ana-Lucia was just repeating it above. For what it's worth, if those are the only roles she honestly thinks is available, then she is severley limiting herself.

I agree with you. MR is perfectly entitled to play or not play whatever roles she likes but to be honest, I've not seen anything in her that would lead me to beleive she's all that capable of playing other types of carachters. As long as she wants to present herself as a "one trick pony" then I can't be blamed for seeing her as just that. Who knows maybe someday she'll pull a Nicole Kidman in The Hours type role and surprise me.

ana-lucia said
In my opinion, anyone hates Michelle Rodriguez's persona is merly afraid of her, someone like her.

The only thing that scares me about MR is what she's doing to my favorite show. Otherwise what is she going to do? Come to my house and monotone me to death;)

Obvioulsy people are writing scripts that calls for the tough girl
role, and someone has to play them. Preferably someone who does it well, Michelle Rdoriguez.

I don't feel she plays these parts that well. Her acting, IMHO, is flat and lacking emotional range. Angelina Jolie can play a tough girl well as can Mariska Hargatay. Kate Beckinsale did well in Underworld, Carry Anne Moss is great as Trinity in the Matrix and ofcourse the toughtest kick butt chick of all, Jennifer Garner as Sydney in Alias, is one of the most impressive roles on TV. The difference between these ladies and MR is that they all bring more to the table than a few well placed kicks and monotone line delivery. All you have to do is compare MR's Ana Lucia to any of the above actresses and their tough girl carachters and her portrayal, at least so far, just doesn't even come close.

Warthawg1 Your entire post pretty much nails it:10:

[wickedsweet]

nthxing said
Sure she "demands attention", so does a stopped up commode.
:spit: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[azteclady]

Dear Lord, how one earth did I miss the "anyone hates Michelle Rodriguez's persona is merly afraid of her, someone like her" bit?

Picture me choking with laughter at the idea, and with derision at the utter arrogance of presuming to know how other people's minds work. Of course, Warthawg1 put it much better than I can: don't tell me why I feel about any character, or actor, or show, or anything, the way I do, and I'll give you the same respect.

nthxing, I bow before the "stopped up commode" crack. Priceless, dude. Priceless!

wickedsweet, unless there's plenty of male eye candy on the movies MR worked, the marathon is so off it just left this galaxy.

[Khan]

unless there's plenty of male eye candy on the movies MR worked, the marathon is so off it just left this galaxy.
There might be, but she probably spends most of the movie kicking them in the crotch.

[wickedsweet]

azteclady said
wickedsweet, unless there's plenty of male eye candy on the movies MR worked, the marathon is so off it just left this galaxy.

Fast and Furious has Paul Walker, yummy, but I'd rather watch him in joyride.