Danielle's Pregnancy

[GG]

Juliet was brought to the island in order to conduct research on the pregnant women so they wouldn't die. Claire was injected with that medication by Ethan, enabling Claire to deliver Aaron. Danielle was pregnant when she arrived on the island and had a healthy baby girl (Alex). That was well before Juliet came to the island, so how do we explain the fact that Danielle carried to term and lived to tell about it? I'm all ears!

[Ida Monster]

Juliet was brought to the island in order to conduct research on the pregnant women so they wouldn't die. Claire was injected with that medication by Ethan, enabling Claire to deliver Aaron. Danielle was pregnant when she arrived on the island and had a healthy baby girl (Alex). That was well before Juliet came to the island, so how do we explain the fact that Danielle carried to term and lived to tell about it? I'm all ears!

Danielle was about 7 months pregnant when her ship ran aground. She and her team were holed up in their temporary shelter for 2 months.
Her team contracted the sickness one by one.
It's possible she may have not been exposed long enough prior to birth to be affected.

[truffula]

With the exception of the fact that Alex is her daughter, I don't believe anything Rousseau has told us.

- her ship crashed into the rocks and shipwrecked - LIE
- her "team" got "sick" - LIE
- she delivered Alex herself - LIE
- the Others "came out of the jungle" and took Alex - LIE
- she's never seen the Swan or the Flame before - LIE

Okay, maybe one other thing she said that was true was when she had Ben in her net - "He is one of them. Do not believe anything he says. He will lie."...or something to that effect. :p

[Ida Monster]

With the exception of the fact that Alex is her daughter, I don't believe anything Rousseau has told us.

- her ship crashed into the rocks and shipwrecked - LIE
- her "team" got "sick" - LIE
- she delivered Alex herself - LIE
- the Others "came out of the jungle" and took Alex - LIE
- she's never seen the Swan or the Flame before - LIE

Okay, maybe one other thing she said that was true was when she had Ben in her net - "He is one of them. Do not believe anything he says. He will lie."...or something to that effect. :p

I won't debate Danielle's state of mind.. that's already been done.. she's bat-sh.. crazy and some of what she says may be lies to protect her fragile mind, but she also may be partly truthful in her memories. (Which may or may not have been altered by brainwashing.) We really, really, really need a "Danielle flashback" fo corroborate her "facts".

[vampagan]

I had a problem with this too, especially after Juliette claims Claire is the first to survive. She MUST know Alex was born on the Island.
I know....Juliette is fast surpassing Ben at the art of deceit.

[Hodgepodge]

We've got another thread discussing this subject. If I'm not mistaken Juliet mentioned the problem was in conception. I would assume the women would've carried to term if they hadn't died. Now this would preclude Danielle and it might preclude Sun as well. That's if Sun's baby was conceived off-island by Jae, and Jin isn't the father.

I'm going to move this thread to the Mira Furlan - Danielle forum for continued discussion.

[dp2]

Claire and Rousseau conceived off the island. That's the key.

The big question is, when did Sun conceive?

I had a problem with this too, especially after Juliette claims Claire is the first to survive. She MUST know Alex was born on the Island.
I know....Juliette is fast surpassing Ben at the art of deceit.
She doesn't have to know that. It's possible she thinks Alex was brought to the island some other way.

[Enigma]

It's been at least 3 months since Claire gave birth.

Ben stated while talking to Juliet that THEY activated the implant in claire to MAKE HER SICK.

I do not believe they were giving Claire medicine to keep her alive after the birth, since no one has been around for a good 3 months to inject her with medicine. Whatever was int he implant is what made Claire sick. Which explains why Danielle hasn't "NEEDED" medicine to stay alive and healthy for 16 years or more.

Now what was this "implant" that they were able to activater remotely? Did it release a virus or disease into Claire that will now either kill her or make her continuously dependant upon this "medicinal injection" now?

[dp2]

It's been at least 3 months since Claire gave birth.
They've barely been on the island three months, and she didn't give birth until a month or so after the crash (about 3/4 through season 1, which was 40 days total).

[Enigma]

Even still Ben said they activated "the device" they implanted in Claire. So what is that device and what did it trigger? What did it release? They probably weren't able to implant one into Danielle which is why she is fine still.

[Hodgepodge]

...She doesn't have to know that. It's possible she thinks Alex was brought to the island some other way.Also remember, Juliet's only been on the island for 3+ years. Ben and the "Others" took Alex from Danielle a week after she was born. Here's another point!

Remember when Locke sent Alex to get his backpack? She came across Sayid handcuffed to a swing-set. When he told her she looked just like her mother, Alex said her mother was dead. I wouldn't be surprised if Ben told Juliet the same thing.


...I do not believe they were giving Claire medicine to keep her alive after the birth, since no one has been around for a good 3 months to inject her with medicine. Whatever was int he implant is what made Claire sick. Which explains why Danielle hasn't "NEEDED" medicine to stay alive and healthy for 16 years or more.

Now what was this "implant" that they were able to activater remotely? Did it release a virus or disease into Claire that will now either kill her or make her continuously dependant upon this "medicinal injection" now?This is a very good point Enigma. But, don't forget Charlie gave her vails of something to shoot herself from the food pallet. I'm curious what that might have been?

[GG]

We've got another thread discussing this subject. If I'm not mistaken Juliet mentioned the problem was in conception. I would assume the women would've carried to term if they hadn't died. Now this would preclude Danielle and it might preclude Sun as well. That's if Sun's baby was conceived off-island by Jae, and Jin isn't the father.

I'm going to move this thread to the Mira Furlan - Danielle forum for continued discussion.Hodge, why can't Jin be the father? After all, he is her husband. Fling notwithstanding, most who have affairs still sleep with their spouses....I'm not speaking from experience though. I realize the doctor told Sun that Jin was the reason she couldn't conceive, but friends of mine were told the same thing. They are now the parents of my godchild who I love dearly!

[Hodgepodge]

Hodge, why can't Jin be the father? After all, he is her husband. Fling notwithstanding, most who have affairs still sleep with their spouses....I'm not speaking from experience though. I realize the doctor told Sun that Jin was the reason she couldn't conceive, but friends of mine were told the same thing. They are now the parents of my godchild who I love dearly!I think there's a good chance Jin could be the baby's father. I was bringing up the point about conception. According to Juliet, that's when the problem occurred.

Now take this little bit of information and transfer it to the Sun/Jin/Jae situation. My point was, if Jae was the father, there shouldn't be a problem with the pregnancy. But, in the case of Jin, that would mean the conception took place on the island. Ergo, possible problem! This is all moot of course, if the problem is with women who were born on Craphole Island. Which I feel it is. JMO!

[GG]

I think there's a good chance Jin could be the baby's father. I was bringing up the point about conception. According to Juliet, that's when the problem occurred.

Now take this little bit of information and transfer it to the Sun/Jin/Jae situation. My point was, if Jae was the father, there shouldn't be a problem with the pregnancy. But, in the case of Jin, that would mean the conception took place on the island. Ergo, possible problem! This is all moot of course, if the problem is with women who were born on Craphole Island. Which I feel it is. JMO!Yes, I see your point, and it's a good one. But (I love buts!) Sun took her pregnancy test right after Jin returned to camp and they slept together. My recollection is that you need to be pregnant for a period of time before those do-it-yourself tests work. Because of that, I'm thinking that she got prego before the plane crashed. My other thought is that if the island healed Locke and presumably Rose, perhaps it heals all those transported there after the incident. Just another perspective. What do you think (and you can use "buts")?

[Hodgepodge]

Yes, I see your point, and it's a good one. But (I love buts!) Sun took her pregnancy test right after Jin returned to camp and they slept together. My recollection is that you need to be pregnant for a period of time before those do-it-yourself tests work. Because of that, I'm thinking that she got prego before the plane crashed. My other thought is that if the island healed Locke and presumably Rose, perhaps it heals all those transported there after the incident. Just another perspective. What do you think (and you can use "buts")?And, if you figure she got pregnant pre-crash and the second part of your statement is true? Wouldn't that make the father of Sun's baby Jae?