Slowly Slipping

[LadySTX]

Jack has obviously lost it a couple times and in my opinion i think he'll slowly lose it forever. Here is where you can list your favorite Jack "gone crazy or angry or mad" moments and post your opinion on what will happen to his mental state.

[Mattie]

Right after Locke saves him from falling off of the cliff.

That scene where Matthew Fox laughs after almost dying is so realistic. I think we've all done it, been so sad or so upset that we...laugh. It's like a cry-laugh. I loved that scene.

[Hodgepodge]

Yeah, I've always been a fan of Jack's. But he's getting closer to the edge of insanity. If you guys get a chance, read a post from Dark Stool, in the first season episode discussion archives. He made a great point about Jack not being able to let go. And, blaming everybody else for his own problems. It's a good read!

[Lost In His Eyes]

I can't think of any of his good crazy moments, but I'm sure I will.
I do think he's going to get worse. He has a ton of stress placed on him everyday and he's not taking care of himself. It's a good thing Kate is there to take care of him! :D

[Mattie]

Almost cutting Boone's leg off was a pretty "crazy" moment. He knew Boone would die anyway.

[ThatHippieKid]

Agreed, KF2.

I thought last night when he was ranting at Kate and she "advised" him to rest... I loved it cause he could barely move or get up and he was still "I'm FINE.." *shakes head* :p

[LostInWilderness]

Immediately blaming Locke for the missing key was just nuts, especially when he was sitting right next to the most obvious suspect.

[Mattie]

Well in his mind Locke was still a murderer.

[azteclady]

KF2, the question uppermost in my mind is - even considering that Locke indeed lied about how Boone got injured - whether Jack stopped to consider for a second a possible, credible motive for Locke murdering Boone.

Being present and even contributing to Boone being injured in an accident of any kind, not a problem - it's after all pretty much what happened. But what possible reason did Jack imagine for Locke murdering Boone?

In my eyes, Jack needed to be able to blame Boone's death squarely, 100% on someone else. Otherwise, even knowing that in the island he didn't have the equipment, or the medication, or any other resources to save Boone's life, Jack would have owned the guilt - blamed himself - and maybe self destruct as a consequence.

[Mattie]

I think it's 50/50. I mean...Jack definitely blames the death of Boone on Locke, because of how he "based" his treatment, thinking it was a fall when really his leg was collecting blood. So he does blame Locke.

But if I put myself in Jack's place...and someone is on their death bed muttering something about a hatch that I've never heard of and hearing "Locke said not to tell" I don't know what I'd think. *I* don't think I'd be as quick to judge as Jack was...but that's just Jack's character. So it makes sense for him I think.

[Celtic Ceilidh]

Shannon grazes Locke's head when she shoots him and Jack turns and walks away without even checking if Locke's hurt or not. Threatening to withhold Sawyer's medication because he had the case Kate said belonged to her. At other times, with Boone and with Charlie for example, he goes almost overboard in trying to save lives.

[Mattie]

Jack may be slipping but he's still saner than most of them left out there.

[LostInWilderness]

KF2 writes: Jack may be slipping but he's still saner than most of them left out there.
I prefer brief, to-the-point posts, but KF2, you have to back this up. ;)

[Mattie]

Well he's in charge of a gun case and was FURIOUS with Locke but he wasn't the one to take out a gun and chase him down and attempt to put holes in him.

He doesn't think the island gives him things or talks to him through signs.

He isn't trying to build a raft to put out in the middle of the ocean with no idea of any kind of rescue.

He isn't crossing unsturdy rope bridges that have been there for years and years.

He isn't carrying around a letter that he wrote like 20 years ago.

He isn't obsessed over a small toy airplane.

[MsJustsyncfox]

I agree with Kathy Fan 2 about Jack laughing when Locke saves him.

[LostInWilderness]

Jack follows around an image of father.

Jack smashes he fathers casket to pieces.

Jack beats Charlie badly enough to kill him (then Charlie comes back to life)

Jack calls Locke a murderer after Boone dies from an accident.

Jack attacks Locke for no good reason at Boone's funeral.

Jack immediately blames Locke for stealing the key.

Jack goes running through the jungle even though he's a couple pints low on blood.

I think Jack is just as insane as anyone on the island.

[Mattie]

Most of them are about Locke...but he was pretty justified in thinking Locke murdered Boone.

No one else heard what Boone was saying about not telling and the hatch and all that.

[banshee]

I think crazy is a misnomer....Stressed & exhausted yes, but insane no.

I like Locke, & don't believe Jack should have tackled him-but I can understand why he responded as he did. Locke took away Jack's choice to at least *try* another course of tx on Boone by not telling him everything that happened. Regardless of if you think it could have save Boone, the details Locke left out could have effected Jack's action. I think this is punctuated by the writers having Jack say 2x- "I based my tx on a lie." So from Jack's POV, Locke lied to him & tied his hands on anything else he could do. It's just what Jack's father did to him w/Beth...Why have Christian say "the focus had to be on the mother" if the baby wasn't viable. Even if 5 months old, especially if the mother is terminal, doctors will do a C sec.

One has to consider how you would feel if someone died at your hands, doctor or not. And something someone told you *may* have made a difference. I doubt ppl would be as calm or free of anger as it seems to be thought Jack should have been. He just wanted answers & if he was so out of control he would have taken a gun w/him he first went to look for Locke. I know some don't accept his sleep deprivation/blood loss as effecting his behavior, but truth is you can't say you're as coherent & thinking clearly when you're in his condition....Lack of sleep does effect psychosis let alone compounded by blood loss. Curious how when he's been overtly irrational or seen things he was sleep deprived-WR, DNH & GG...I think he should be commended not condemned for putting his health secondary & taking off after Shannon to stop her. He was mad enough at Locke, why bother if he didn't care.

What he did on Charlie-wasn't mad pounding..It's a precordial thump. Rarely works but in lieu of a defibrilator-it's the only shot Charlie had.

[LadySTX]

I totally agree with you simply because i adore Jack. Obviously. And i'm not gonns question what happens simply because there's a reason ebhind every action and moment on LOST. Plus it makes for good TV to see the "good doctor" go ape shi* on the crazy bald guy (sorry Locke) and he saved Charlie's life!

[Mattie]

One has to consider how you would feel if someone died at your hands, doctor or not. And something someone told you *may* have made a difference. I doubt ppl would be as calm or free of anger as it seems to be thought Jack should have been

You get the early morning medal of honor.