+ They're not on an island

[DanielGotLost]

I just think that this is gonna be a huge twist that comes in around episode 10 time. J J did the same with Season One of Alias. Through the first half Syd was investigating her father and the idea never even came up that it wasn't her father who was guilty and then all of a sudden WHAM!!

So we've all and they've all just automatically asumed they're on an island. The press release has said so. But have they actually confirmed it yet? Has anyone walked the whole way around to confirm that hell yes, its an island.

[Rooster]

Good point,we must all be thinking Survivor.

[roar822]

That's what I've thought all along. This whole thing is a very elaborate, and evil, set up kind of like the Jim Carrey movie The Truman Show. There's no way now to know who's running this, aliens, the government, etc., but the survivors are all lab rats in some sort of study of who knows what...human response to fear maybe? The monster will probably turn out to actually be a bulldozer or some sort of heavy equipment, with sound effects, to give the illusion of a King Kong type creature living in the woods.

[xpunkisneatx]

Like in the movie The Village...They are all sequestered in this tiny village, afraid of the "monsters" in the woods...who actually turn out to be the elders of the society trying to scare everyone and keep them from leaving the village. Someone said earlier that maybe on the other side of the island is Club Med...that would be a nice twist.

[Abraxas]

I've never seen The Village, but by now I know the plot four or five times over. That's really cool.

[psychobunny1]

Although if it isn't an island wouldn't soemone have seen the fire. I thought that for a bit to, I had seen a similar plot on another show where they were just in deserted land, I just do not think they could explain no one seeing them if people are so close.

[xxandraxx]

Sorry I started a post with "the village" theory without reading this thread.

A good twist would be that it's somebody's experiment. They have people who had a relative or loved one who passed away...and they wanted their loved ones cloned. So some scientist clones all these people on the plane, including the pilot and the plane crashed on the island. Some of the clones did not make it, but the ones that did have strange memories of what they think is their past lives--not realizing that they don't really exist like that anymore.

For instance, the guy in the wheelchair can walk now because the cloning can't re-create the situation of him being in a wheelchair--he just thought he couldn't walk and has been immobile by this fear.

The pregnant lady wanted a child before she died. She was able to fulfill her dream of being pregnant AFTER she got cloned.

The doctor was responsible for the death of a patient which led him to suicide, He's on the island to be a doctor again....but a respected one. He learns to do this on the island.

The English rocker dude, overdosed in real life. When he was cloned--he learns to kick his habit by taking a substitute drug. He is addicted to the substitute drug.

The fat guy was died of Sloth and Gluttony. He now has to ration his food. He doesn't let food control him...by the end of the series..he will be replaced by Brad Pitt (OK, I'm just testing ya....not really)

The Arabic guy was killed in the war in the middle east. His family was rich and wanted to clone him so he can become the famous scientist he was destined to be.

The Brother and Sister are two Hollywood kids. The spoiled girl was kidnapped and her brother tried to save her but ended up shot by the kidnappers. Their parents paid a fortune to clone their only kids who once again "die" together.

The fugitive lady is an innocent victim of false identity and was framed for the murder of her rich husband. She is mortally injured while trying to escape and her father's last wish was to have his only daughter returned to him.

The father and son were the first family cloned in the U.S. the mother was cloned in Australia but due to a chemical imbalance the mother died shortly after reaching the age she actually died. The clone son and father were reunited and were returning to the U.S.

The Japanese couple are the the last descendants of the Royal Family in Japan. Anxious to have their royal line back , the Japanese cloned them after they were assassinated.

OK, pretty much have explanations for ALL of the characters but I'm tired now....

REMEMBER my CLONING THEORY.

This is a theory based on secret cloning experiments that happened during several years and by several countries. All have ties to Australia, France and the U.S.A.

The clones were ALL placed on a plane that was SABOTAGED to crash on an ISLAND where every life form is CLONED. They DO NOT KNOW THEY ARE CLONED and will soon come to realize this eventually by various occurrences on the island and through their own memory of their cloned life and the LIFE OF THE ORIGINAL person who was cloned.

You follow?

One by one they will come to grips with memory, past lives, and future. This ISLAND test is necessary for them to blend into the REAL WORLD when they are rescued. They will live a life different from the person they were cloned from and they live better, more fulfilled lives as clones.

Dang!

I'm good!!

:hat

[Ms Anthropy]

Ok, my Wild Lost Speculation:

The survivors are not be who they think they are and they're not really survivors of a plane crash. That's why none of the survivors were seriously hurt. It's been set up to look like a crash as some kind of grand Truman Show-like psychological/survival experiment or game. I don't know by who. But that's why the crash has only been shown through individual memory flashback. And that is why no one is coming to rescue them.

Some/all of their memories are planted. Locke never was in a wheel chair, but he thinks he was.

The cable is part of a power souce for the island. It's connected to a control center offshore. Many of the animal sounds and voices we hear, as well as the image of Jack's father, etc come from hidden speakers and cameras in the jungle. That's why we see such weird stuff, but producers insist there is not a supernatural explaination.

Like an interactive murder mystery dinner on ritalin, some of the survivors are in on it. The pilot was a part of it - that's why he was so idiotic and climbed out of the window when the "monster" was out there and was "killed." But no one actually verified he was dead, did they? His body (which was bloodied, but fully intact and not chewed on) was convienently too high up in the trees to do this.

Danielle is not who she claims to be and is a part of the "game." That is why the trigger on Sayid's gun was disabled.

They're not allowed to leave by whomever is in charge - that is why Sayid was hit over the head when trying to transmit a signal.
Someday, the survivors will start to realize things aren't as they seem.

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Does anyone remember what happened to the body of the marshall when he died? I'm trying to think of how he would fit into this scenario...

[WallyG3]

I like your theory. It makes sense.
The only thing is - the dead people. They burned the bodies, that one guy was sucked into an engine, and the Marshall was dying until Jack finished him off.
And how does the body of Jack's dad fit in?

[Ms Anthropy]

I'm also trying to figure how the marshall would fit into that scenario.

The incidental deaths aren't really a problem, as not everyone would be expected to survive such an experiment/game, as I'm sure "they" expect the survivors to start killing each other. Dead bodies could have been added to the wreckage for realism.

It is just odd that, except for the marshall, none of the survivors were even seriously wounded.

[lostfan101 123]

What about when they were in the cave and couldnt breath in a game no ones sopposed to get hurt right? They could have died in the cave

[Lost at sea]

There is too much red tape for one; if you were going to be in a game where the possibiltiy of death was as real as it is then they producers would need your approval for one, not to mention the lawsuits it would cause or how expensive wiring a whole island with speakers and cameras would be. As far as no major injuries what about the man with the leg? or Rose having to have CPR to survive or Jacks big ol' gash on his back?

[Hawkmistress]

Did anybody ever see the movie "Cube"?

Whoever was perpetrating the experiment in that movie didn't get the consent of the subjects first and didn't care what happened to them.

I have sometimes thought that the plane crash never happened because we only see it in flashbacks and I've also doubted the survivors' memories probably because I am such a fan of the movie "Dark City".

[ColLocke]

Lost at Sea- I think that you're thinking that the show is not really a show, but a game.

The poster's intent, I believe, was to say that the events on the island are a game, something along the lines of "Manhunt" or "Saw"; some crazy guy kidnapping people and making them do their bidding without them knowing.

[LittleGirlLostBD02]

There are so many good theories out there , I am so amazed at our lovely brains. The ultimate game of survival. I love it and they have no idea what is going on- even greater. I don't think Danielle is who she seems either- she a little mysterious and on this island - nothing is as it seems.

[Vicki]

If you mean like the Truman Show kind of thing here, then I really hope that's not the case...it seems too weird, not compelling enough..maybe its because i found that movie a little boring. Lol.

[zhenar]

I would be pretty schocked if this was true... but I like the theory. Sayid's discovery of the cable kinda looked like a moment similar to Truman discovering the "end of the ocean".

[Ms Anthropy]

Hawkmistress said: " Whoever was perpetrating the experiment in that movie didn't get the consent of the subjects first and didn't care what happened to them."

ColLocke said: The poster's intent, I believe, was to say that the events on the island are a game, something along the lines of "Manhunt" or "Saw"; some crazy guy kidnapping people and making them do their bidding without them knowing

Exactly.:)

Don't get hung up on the game angle. I brought up the Truman Show as an example of living in a world of illusion, not that I thought the survivors were being broadcast on network tv.

My theory doesn't speculate on why they are there. Just that the world they are in is not what is seems to be. There is a force behind the scenes that is engineering things.

There is absolutley no reason death as a consequence could not be a part of it. Did you ever see The Running Man? Gladiator? Or even Triple X - do you think all the convicts survived the South American drug plantation raid at the start of that movie? Those that died were tested and failed. We know that governments have done fatal experiements on people. Death does not rule out that this is an experiment or type of cruel entertainment.

I am NOT suggesting that Lost is just like any of those movies. I'm curious to see the unique twist. My speculation was only that part of it would be that the island experience is being artificially engineered by an outside force.

Was it just a timely coincidence that Jack's hallucinations of his father led him to the supply of fresh water - just as the supply was running out? Very helpful hallucination indeed. Nothing could cut short the "experiment" (I'll refrain from calling it a game) like mass dehydration.

I also suspect that something like "Total Recall" is going on and the the flashback memories are tainted fictionalized memories.

Can anyone confirm to me that the Marshall's body was burned with the rest?

[lolane3]

Wow, I'm sleeping with the lights on tonight!

Your theory is great, and very spooky. It would also explain the voices that Danielle and Sayid hear.

[Heat Miser]

I think I've got it all figured out now guys - the stuff going on on the Island is all fake ... it's in actuality a TV SHOW.

Here's my evidence:

1) Many of the Losties look an awful lot like people I have seen on other TV shows and in movies. Jack looks like an older version of Charlie from Party of Five. If he had long hair, it would be uncanny. Charlie looks like one of the Hobbits on LOTR. I thought I saw a guy who looked just like Sawyer parking cars on an old CSI episode. I could swear Kate did a commercial up here in Canada for a phone dating service. I think Michael and Eko have some sort of secret connection, and I think they secretly starred in a TV show with each other before and aren't telling the others. The list goes on and on.

2) If Lost is really a TV show, it explains a whole lot of wierd things. That mysterious arm we saw appear in the jungle when Kate saw the horse? Could that have been a horse trainer, and Kate was really in on the whole charade? Why hasn't Hurley lost any weight? Simple - he isn't really starving on an island, but an actor with free access to the catering truck. Why do the rocks at the caves look so fake? Maybe they ARE fake! Why were there so many rain tarps on the plane? There weren't any - but they were added later by the props department. Why do people remember things in a 3rd person visual perspective? Because they aren't real memories, but scenes taped by a cameraman! Why does no one seem to notice that Aaron looks like a completely different baby every time they see him? Because no one will admit that it IS a different baby, forced to become Aaron when the old baby grew too old. Believe me people, if you think this has really only been going on for 50 days, then you need to open your eyes to the truth!

3) If you accepted that Lost was a TV show, all of the more supernatural events that have taken place can be easily explained in a logical, scientific fashion. The Monster is really a series of sound effects, explosive charges and prop trees moved by effects crew guys just out of sight. The Black Smoke is CGI, which is why it is so similar to the water creature from "The Abyss". If the plane too never existed except as CGI or pre-placed rubble, then the bizarre and impossible physics of the plane crash becomes a moot point. Walt making the bird hit the window? Fake bird, string removed via CGI.

4) Behaviours of the Losties makes more sense with this theory as well. Why didn't anyone ask Desmond or Danielle direct questions about the wierd stuff going on? Because it would give away too much of the plot! Why don't they try to find the radio transmission tower that they know is on the island and know works? Why aren't they all fighting over who gets to sleep in the hatch? Because they aren't really stranded on an island and getting off the island would be bad for ratings! Why do none of the main group of castaways give anything more than a passing acknowledgement of the dozens of other survivors, and why don't these people ever volunteer for anything? Because they are EXTRAS... I'm serious. I'll bet if you actually counted all the survivors we've really seen it would be more than 60.

I know it sounds crazy, but when you stop and think about it a lot of things get explained.

[Strip Gwyn]

No, dude. One, there is a very good thread or two showing every extra, and it adds up to the exact amount it is supposed to be, also, shut up.

[bergsuk]

Fairly amusing, but i can't believe you wasted your time typing this all out...

[Heat Miser]

No, dude. One, there is a very good thread or two showing every extra, and it adds up to the exact amount it is supposed to be, also, shut up.

Aren't they up to like 90+ redshirts now?

[Heat Miser]

Fairly amusing, but i can't believe you wasted your time typing this all out...

This is likely the only theory posted here which will end up being correct. I'm the only one NOT wasting my time :)

[SteveB]

That mysterious arm we saw appear in the jungle when Kate saw the horse?

I don't remember that, or find any threads covering the matter.

[actorderick]

Maybe the "island" is a nudist resort. And the Others are the vacationers - thats why they don't wear shoes :)

[OhioSteve1]

Heat Miser, I laughed out loud reading your theory. :) However, if we took your theory seriously, we would have to shut down this message board. Then what would I do with my free time each evening? I have alot invested in this message board. Remember I spent THREE DAYS composing the Danielle thesis. So no, I won't support your theory.

[OhioSteve1]

Oh yeah...everything you guys have just mentioned, we thought of last November. But they are still good concepts. I agree that the characters do NOT really know it is an island.