S3 SPECIAL EPISODE THREAD 17-MAY-07 : LOST : The Answers

[Brian]

This is the discussion thread for the next LOST episode, "LOST : The Answers"

This special episode will air Thursday, May 17 (10:07 - 11:00 PM EST) and repeat
Wednesday, May 23 (8:00 - 9:00 PM EST) just before the season 3 finale.

Enjoy the special episode!

Unlocked.
Please remember, if it isn't mentioned on the air, it's considered a spoiler and must be tagged. Thank you.

Episode Description:

ABC once again invites new and avid “Lost” viewers to take another look at one of the most talked about and critically acclaimed shows. “Lost: The Answers” will explore the series in a way that will bring new viewers up to date -- but which current viewers will also find illuminating – in anticipation of the Season Finale episode. The special will take an in-depth look at the mysteries of both the island and its inhabitants and recap the secrets that have been revealed, as well as those that remain unanswered.


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[Shapedude]

Uhh.... first?

D:

[vanillafields3]

Two Lost shows in one week.
Yay!

[truffula]

I think I am going to like this little special. :D

[Shapedude]

Ah, this should be good

[Brian]

I just hope it doesn't turn into a visual version of the Official LOST Podcast. :)

[RCPDesigns]

A weekly test of the Emergency Broadcast System... right now... in the middle of the "Answers"????

argh!!

[billehmeg]

so far a nice little intro. not too badly done i suppose.

[truffula]

I just hope it doesn't turn into a visual version of the Official LOST Podcast. :)
:rotfl: that's what I described it potentially being like to my brother!! :p

As long as they don't get all super goofy like in the podcasts.....

[FrodoFraggins]

I think they just detailed the reason for this special when they said that when the series is over they will have told the complete story. The announcement of the end date and this special seems to be geared towards holding on to the current viewers and maybe gaining back some they lost. I hope it works!

[mzsandeestar]

He said Kate killed her stepfather.....we had been told in season one that Wayne was her real father.

Did you hear them say by the end we will know the past present and future about these characters.
We will know who they will become.

[Tibor420]

Carlton's little talk about the lost mosaic sure as hell seemed alot like Lostfan108's spoiler......the future

[UnemployedInGreenland]

I think Kyle MacLachlan (Twin Peaks) is narrating this special.

[truffula]

Dharma - late 70s/early 80s - Swan was most important.

An electromagnetic pulse came out of the Hatch and fried the planes instrumentation. Carlton says "a definitive answer as to why the plane crashed"

[Brian]

EMP crashed Flight 815. Definitive answer straight from the horses mouth, so to speak.

ETA - Or what truff said. :)

[FrodoFraggins]

lol "based on the way he throws the ball I'd say he's on defense"

[truffula]

The monster has the ability to "judge" you. Locke passed the first time, but not the second.

When Smokie looks at you, it can manifest things from reading your mind.....Whoah...did they just say that dripping backwards Walt was SMOKIE!?!?!?!?

ETA - I think they did....they did Christian, then Walt, then Kate's Horse!

[JoeyisLOST]

So that confirms it... every apparation the Losties have seen was smokie. Good to know.

[FrodoFraggins]

So that confirms it... every apparation the Losties have seen was smokie. Good to know.

Well except for Hurleys imaginary friend right?

[lostislander]

i'm blown away by the smokie revelations...love this special!!!!:D

[vanillafields3]

But why did Sawyer see Kate's horse? Is it part of his past we haven't seen yet?

[RCPDesigns]

Well except for Hurleys imaginary friend right?
With every answer comes another question... :D

[JoeyisLOST]

Well except for Hurleys imaginary friend right?

CRAP!

[LPU]

Well, they said the island could manifest these apparitions. Far from a confirmation that it's all been smokey.

[jmb3rg3r]

It wasn't crystal clear from what they said that every apparition was Smokey.

They did specify Smokey reads *memories*

[JoeyisLOST]

But why did Sawyer see Kate's horse? Is it part of his past we haven't seen yet?

I think that's because its a physical manifestation. Just because it manifests as something from Kate's brain, it doesn't mean Sawyer can't see it too.

[lostislander]

eyeliner guy!

[truffula]

I think that's because its a physical manifestation. Just because it manifests as something from Kate's brain, it doesn't mean Sawyer can't see it too.
Good point! :)

[JoeyisLOST]

Good point! :)

Why thank you sir!

[Brian]

So, Locke is methodically "picking off" every method of rescue. I wonder if that means he really did blow up the sub.

[LPU]

Yeah, I'd say he blew up the sub. Too bad it only goes to The Looking Glass and back!

[truffula]

So, Locke is methodically "picking off" every method of rescue. I wonder if that means he really did blow up the sub.
I think Locke really did blow up THAT sub, but I am of the opinion that...um....*cough*thehansofoundation*cough* has more than one sub in their posession.

Yeah, I'd say he blew up the sub. Too bad it only goes to The Looking Glass and back!
Exactly! The ILLUSION that they can actually LEAVE the Island. :)

[Tibor420]

Hurley bought that Chicken shack????

[truffula]

Magic Box - That was a METAPHOR. The whole Island is a Magic Box.

Thank you once again, Damon. :)

[Shapedude]

Wait.. wouldn't the beer expire?

[Brian]

Exactly! The ILLUSION that they can actually LEAVE the Island. :)

I couldn't agree more. I've long thought that the sub was just that, an illusion. Ben said so himself when he mentioned "maintaining the illusion". :)

[truffula]

question - my local news just said they were on at 11 still.
Is this a 45 min special?
I heard it was airing before the finale next week too...

ETA - so does that mean 15 minutes of more commercials on Wed?

[FrodoFraggins]

question - my local news just said they were on at 11 still.
Is this a 45 min special?
I heard it was airing before the finale next week too...

ETA - so does that mean 15 minutes of more commercials on Wed?

they've had a lot fewer commercials though

[truffula]

Awww...Carlton just killed a kitten. :(

they've had a lot fewer commercials though
Ya know, I kinda thought the segments have been longer too. You're probably right.

[FrodoFraggins]

Awww...Carlton just killed a kitten. :(


Ya know, I kinda thought the segments have been longer too. You're probably right.

i just tried taking a bio break and there was only like one commercial. lol

[truffula]

YAY the raft sailing music again!! :D

[Brian]

I think Kyle MacLachlan (Twin Peaks) is narrating this special.

Indeed he was. :)

[louise71594]

Okay

They just said there will be a special right before the 2 hour season finale, did I hear that right???? (3 hours of LOST???)

[Brian]

Yes! The special starts (repeat actually) at 8PM EST and the 2-hour finale begins at 9PM EST. 3 hours of LOST next Wednesday. :Cheers:

[mzsandeestar]

I think the first hour is a repeat of what you just saw.

[scottandwtb]

So, Locke is methodically "picking off" every method of rescue. I wonder if that means he really did blow up the sub.

I'm still of the mind that he didn't blow it up.

[louise71594]

I think the first hour is a repeat of what you just saw.

Thats pretty cool!!!!!!!

This is going to be a awesome night for TV, I can't wait!!!!!!!!!:Cheers:

[scottandwtb]

Yes! The special starts (repeat actually) at 8PM EST and the 2-hour finale begins at 9PM EST. 3 hours of LOST next Wednesday. :Cheers:

Sweet! I know what I'll be doing next Wednesday!

Drinking beer! And watching "LOST"!!!

And when the Others come I'm going to blow them all to hell!

[LPU]

Even when they give definitive answers people don't believe them. I really do feel for TPTB at times. Truly.

[UnemployedInGreenland]

Indeed he was. :)

Man, that would really be cool if Kyle McLachlan was added as a character - this show is the true successor to Twin Peaks.

[FrodoFraggins]

Without offending, why do people not think locke blew up the sub? I don't remember people doubting it after it happened. He apologized to jack just before it blew up.

[Shapedude]

Best part of this episode... the preview for next weds!! GOOD GOD I CAN WATCH THAT A MILLION TIMES

[Brian]

Without offending, why do people not think locke blew up the sub?

Partially from the fact that he was soaking wet walking back down the dock prior to the explosion. Some believe/theorize that he moved the sub and the explosion wasn't actually the sub at all.

[truffula]

Man, that would really be cool if Kyle McLachlan was added as a character - this show is the true successor to Twin Peaks.
Amen, brutha! :Cheers:

[louise71594]

Best part of this episode... the preview for next weds!! GOOD GOD I CAN WATCH THAT A MILLION TIMES


Yes, the previews are that good!!!!

[scottandwtb]

Without offending, why do people not think locke blew up the sub? I don't remember people doubting it after it happened. He apologized to jack just before it blew up.

There's just something about it...that doesn't seem quite right...

I mean, Locke was all wet, ya know...

When Damon and Carlton were quizzed about it on some morning radio show, they kinda dodged the question...

[time is a river]

Damon and Carlton said that they weren't in P'land, but alive SOMEWHERE IN THE TIME/SPACE CONTINUUM. Hmm, I wonder why they added that.

[truffula]

Damon and Carlton said that they weren't in P'land, but alive SOMEWHERE IN THE TIME/SPACE CONTINUUM. Hmm, I wonder why they added that.
WORMHOLE!!!! .....or.....BLACK HOLE!!!! ......

(or something along those lines)

Sorry.....I told myself I was gonna stop with this before I turned it into another OCTAHEDRON thing. :p

[lonestarcoug]

I just realized that Sawyer played Cindy.

[FrodoFraggins]

There's just something about it...that doesn't seem quite right...

I mean, Locke was all wet, ya know...

When Damon and Carlton were quizzed about it on some morning radio show, they kinda dodged the question...


Hmm. I just figured he dived in the water after setting the bombs. I'd need to rewatch the scene i guess.

[PhishCake]

I just realized that Sawyer played Cindy.






:confused: :dunce: :footinmou

[Homer Noodleman]

What always made the Locke moved the sub theory pretty ridiculous, aside from the fact a blown up sub would be sitting the next to the pier, is that they went out of the way to have Ben say there was an hour before the sub sailed when Locke was at his house. Just not enough time to move in any distance and then get back to the pier.

[PhishCake]

Anyone notice how very clear D & C were about how they are actually giving us answers???


"And we answered that question when juliet takes Sun to the medical hatch to do some tests and we find that Jin is indeed the father."

so basically they want us to quit our bitching, we've been given answers , but they can't answer them all right now. And they're using the recent news that it's going to be a 6 season run to tell us to relax and let the story play out. Every good story has a begginning,middle,end. So will LOST.



I have a question for us. Well all of you. Where did the nickname Mr. Friendly come from. We've used many for Tom over the years, but the only place I've ever heard "Mr. Friendly" is here. Did someone on THIS board coin it?

[Homer Noodleman]

He said Kate killed her stepfather.....we had been told in season one that Wayne was her real father.

Hmmm... that's interesting to me. I've been banging on for months that Kate only assumed Wayne was her dad because Austin was in Korea at the time. That's a point I need, so that Robert can be her biological father, to keep the Kate and Alex are step-sisters theory alive.

[Homer Noodleman]

I believe he was credited as Mr Friendly in the earlier episodes.

[truffula]

I got an email once from mrfriendly@thehansofoundation.org

Oh wait....that was a fake. A hoax. Dammit. :p

[WASTE]

I missed this and I'm bored. Is there any place to see it online? I remember AOL had the last recap streaming on their website back in February or so.

[sexy baby mama]

About Kate's father issues: Her mom divorced Austin when Kate was young, about 4 or 5. Previously, Austin had been stationed somewhere in a war, and her mom was having an affair with Wayne. So Wayne was kate's biological father, but she grew up thinking that Austin was her father and Wayne was her stepfather. She found out the truth right before she killed Wayne and went on the run. Her parents both knew the truth, but didn't want to tell her. That was when Austin said, basically, 'I knew you'd kill him because you have murder in your heart.'

And her entire life, Austin acted as her real dad, a true father, even though he knew he wasn't her biological dad, and even though he was divorced from her mom. Wayne was an ass, and I'm not sure he ever knew kate was his biological daughter.

[ZIA]

Damon and Carlton said that they weren't in P'land, but alive SOMEWHERE IN THE TIME/SPACE CONTINUUM. Hmm, I wonder why they added that.
I think they added that just for Truff!;)

[kendra1966]

I just realized that Sawyer played Cindy.

Refresh my memory please?

Hmmm... that's interesting to me. I've been banging on for months that Kate only assumed Wayne was her dad because Austin was in Korea at the time. That's a point I need, so that Robert can be her biological father, to keep the Kate and Alex are step-sisters theory alive.

Homer, you keep messing with my brain with this Kate and Alex thing. A shared father? Who do you really think it is?

[Tage]

They answered a lot of questions which didn't really factor in to the real plot. Take the whole 'Pregnancy' revelation. If we found out the child wasn't Jin's it would have only created more drama that would take maybe one episode to resolve. Does it advance the plot any? No. It just suggests that men are now ultra-potent on the island. It isn't exactly a groundbreaking revelation.

[ZIA]

Wow! That was great!
Danielle crashed on the Island with her research team, (I knew it!) and has been wandering around on the Island. Poor Danielle!
Damon said there are 30-40 Others on the Island...well then he did say "We think." LOL!
Desmond really did prevent Global catastrophe, crashed the plane, and has a surprisingly NEW ability!
Dharma Initiative Island tour started in the late 70's early 80's.
AND they're alive SOMEWHERE IN THE TIME/SPACE CONTINUUM.
(Yes, Time is a river-you said it so well I cut and pasted it! ;)
So many solid answers-I feel better!
Anyone else?
Zia

[HoboJoe2]

So now that we know for sure that Locke is thwarting all attempts to leave the island, why can't he just stay when the rescue ship arrives?

Everyone - "Bye Locke"

Locke - "Peace. I'm gonna stay here...where I can walk..."

What's wrong with that?

[FrodoFraggins]

They answered a lot of questions which didn't really factor in to the real plot. Take the whole 'Pregnancy' revelation. If we found out the child wasn't Jin's it would have only created more drama that would take maybe one episode to resolve. Does it advance the plot any? No. It just suggests that men are now ultra-potent on the island. It isn't exactly a groundbreaking revelation.

I think they were trying to address the characters arcs. And so they felt they needed to address Suns affair and they recent discovery of who the father really is. Probably not important in the overall scheme, but important for Jin/sun's arc.

[FrodoFraggins]

So now that we know for sure that Locke is thwarting all attempts to leave the island, why can't he just stay when the rescue ship arrives?

Everyone - "Bye Locke"

Locke - "Peace. I'm gonna stay here...where I can walk..."

What's wrong with that?

I'd say nothing. It says a lot about Locke that he chooses the method that will force all the 815ers to remain on the island.

[HoboJoe2]

I'd say nothing. It says a lot about Locke that he chooses the method that will force all the 815ers to remain on the island.

So is that a plot hole or what? Why would he thwart all these attempts when he could simply choose to stay on the island? No one told him to stop everyone from leaving. Why would he assume that he can't stay if everyone else leaves? I don't get it.

[Black Manta]

So when Jack saw Christian in the first season it was Smokey? So then did Smokey take the body and hide it? The way the island heals people I don't think it would be a reach for the dead to come back to life.

What I'd really like to know is what was that chain thing that grabbed and dragged Locke in the first season's finale.

[Tage]

Maybe Smokey makes sounds that it knows would scare or disturb you.

What could be more disturbing or scary on a deserted tropical island than trees shaking and dinosaur sounds?

And Ben said this season that Locke hates technology. Maybe that's why Smokey sounded like a machine when it tried to kidnap him.

[Nevrast]

So now that we know for sure that Locke is thwarting all attempts to leave the island, why can't he just stay when the rescue ship arrives?

Everyone - "Bye Locke"

Locke - "Peace. I'm gonna stay here...where I can walk..."

What's wrong with that?

Because Locke thinks that if the Island is found, the outside world will ruin it.

[WASTE]

Whoa, two posters with Tolkien-related names on the same page. Neat. :D

I just downloaded the special and I'm watching it now. Pretty neat! One of the better ones.

[normal42]

So now that we know for sure that Locke is thwarting all attempts to leave the island, why can't he just stay when the rescue ship arrives?

Everyone - "Bye Locke"

Locke - "Peace. I'm gonna stay here...where I can walk..."

What's wrong with that?

It's very simple (if not selfish). Locke cannot allow the island to be found. Could you imagine if the outside world ever found out about an island with super healing powers. There would be hotels and starbucks as far as the eye can see. Locke has even stated that modern luxuries are an offense to the island.

[ScRuffY_DiMpLeS]

I just realized that Sawyer played Cindy.

:confused: say huh? played her how?

[FrodoFraggins]

It's very simple (if not selfish). Locke cannot allow the island to be found. Could you imagine if the outside world ever found out about an island with super healing powers. There would be hotels and starbucks as far as the eye can see. Locke has even stated that modern luxuries are an offense to the island.

Even if thats the case. Locke always does what he thinks is best. And as it turns out he often makes the wrong choices. And has yet to learn from his mistakes. I love the character, but he has blind faith. He briefly admitted he was wrong to Eko in the hatch, but he's regained his confidence in his beliefs. And since then he's as reckless as ever.

[Mal]

a bit disappointed in the speciall... .i knew no mindblowing secrets would be revealed or anything but the fact that it was only 45min as grey's anatomy went over an extra 15min and i had to sit through that garbage waiting for it.... was crap.

and i thought it could of been better produced and went at a slower pace really analyzing the show from it's beginning... maybe a 2hr special or something... also the one guy didn't seem to let the other talk much.

i dunno... i expected a bit more from it production wise it seemed just thrown together without much care just as a hype promotion type of ordeal.

i think it would of been cooler to put it in the hands of fans... and have like a long sort of reconstruction of it all and where we are right now and what has happened and how things have come together.

it kind of did this but very rushed and very sloppy i thought.

[sdunn96]

Magic Box - That was a METAPHOR. The whole Island is a Magic Box.

Thank you once again, Damon. :)

What would have been nice is how this "Magic Box" was able to bring Locke's father to the island.

So they read Locke's file and see that Sawyer and Locke have something in common and think "Hey, maybe we should bring this guy here?"

I want to know how they knew to bring him here.......because it was obviously the others that ran into him on I-10.....

[sdunn96]

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There's just something about it...that doesn't seem quite right...

I mean, Locke was all wet, ya know...

When Damon and Carlton were quizzed about it on some morning radio show, they kinda dodged the question...



Hmm. I just figured he dived in the water after setting the bombs. I'd need to rewatch the scene i guess.

But why jump back into the water when you didn't have to, to get in the sub.
And you had plenty of time to walk the length of the pier?

[Synner]

But why jump back into the water when you didn't have to, to get in the sub.
And you had plenty of time to walk the length of the pier?We never saw him actually plant the explosives (that I recall, anyway). Perhaps he either couldn't get inside the sub so he planted the explosives on the hull, or he did get inside but planted some outside as well, like on the props or rudder.

[sdunn96]

So when Jack saw Christian in the first season it was Smokey? So then did Smokey take the body and hide it? The way the island heals people I don't think it would be a reach for the dead to come back to life.

What I'd really like to know is what was that chain thing that grabbed and dragged Locke in the first season's finale.


Hmm....
But he would have been dead for an awful long while, not to mention at high altitudes in the bottom of a jet is very cold.....so more than likely he was frozen, no?

I am not saying they could not bring his father back, but man that is really scraping the bottom of a barrel for that one.

[sdunn96]

We never saw him actually plant the explosives (that I recall, anyway). Perhaps he either couldn't get inside the sub so he planted the explosives on the hull, or he did get inside but planted some outside as well, like on the props or rudder.


No,
He got into the sub.
He climbed down the ladder and went straight to the control room.
Which leads me to believe he had intentions of moving the sub.

[sdunn96]

a bit disappointed in the speciall... .i knew no mindblowing secrets would be revealed or anything but the fact that it was only 45min as grey's anatomy went over an extra 15min and i had to sit through that garbage waiting for it.... was crap.

and i thought it could of been better produced and went at a slower pace really analyzing the show from it's beginning... maybe a 2hr special or something... also the one guy didn't seem to let the other talk much.

i dunno... i expected a bit more from it production wise it seemed just thrown together without much care just as a hype promotion type of ordeal.

i think it would of been cooler to put it in the hands of fans... and have like a long sort of reconstruction of it all and where we are right now and what has happened and how things have come together.

it kind of did this but very rushed and very sloppy i thought.

I was hoping for more also.
Some of the stuffed that was "answered" was pretty much discussed here on this board for a long time now and for the most part this board has been right on most things.

I was wanting to know more about how the island worked.
Or how Richard was able to maintain his youth.
Or what made Ben the "Chosen" one for the "Hostiles"

So now that we know that the "Others" are Dharma's "Hostiles"
Do we know the interaction level they had with smokie?
Cause it seemed Juliet didn't want to have anything to do w/ it.....

[Synner]

No,
He got into the sub.
He climbed down the ladder and went straight to the control room.
Which leads me to believe he had intentions of moving the sub.Ok...it's early and my memory is failing me. I need breakfast I guess...lol.

Anyway, I still think planting explosives on the props and rudder would make for a reasonable explanation for him being wet, even if he was able to plant some inside as well.

[sdunn96]

Maybe....but I don't See why....
C-4 is pretty dang powerful as we witnessed at the flame.

[boredref]

where is a link to download the show? I missed the second half.

[mc73]

One interesting thing they said last night was that when ever smokey saw Juliette it would flash at her, like it was taking a picture of her. What the heck is the suppose to mean? Why would it take a picture of her.

[sdunn96]

One interesting thing they said last night was that when ever smokey saw Juliette it would flash at her, like it was taking a picture of her. What the heck is the suppose to mean? Why would it take a picture of her.


Hasn't had the chance to do it before?

It will take a picture of her thoughts, go over them and determine if she should be killed like Eko or not.......

[sdunn96]

where is a link to download the show? I missed the second half.


I would just go to the abc website and watch it there....

[mc73]

Hasn't had the chance to do it before?

It will take a picture of her thoughts, go over them and determine if she should be killed like Eko or not.......


Could be. But it never did that when it chased Katie and Jack. Also, when Eko confronted it with Charlie it certainly did not flash at them. It's interesting that it never did it to any of the Losties, but to Juliette who works with the Others.

[sdunn96]

Could be. But it never did that when it chased Katie and Jack. Also, when Eko confronted it with Charlie it certainly did not flash at them. It's interesting that it never did it to any of the Losties, but to Juliette who works with the Others.


They ran didn't they?
And maybe they were the targets at the time....not sure.

Eko, and Locke stood still for their scan......

And it did flash at Eko.....maybe not as noticeable cause he was out in the open.....but as it circlied over smokie, you saw flashing in the smoke as it took pictures of his thoughts.

When it did it to Juliet it was dark, raining, and under trees shade.

[mc73]

They ran didn't they?
And maybe they were the targets at the time....not sure.

Eko, and Locke stood still for their scan......

And it did flash at Eko.....maybe not as noticeable cause he was out in the open.....but as it circlied over smokie, you saw flashing in the smoke as it took pictures of his thoughts.

When it did it to Juliet it was dark, raining, and under trees shade.


Oh. Thanks:D

[redwithpurpleflashes]

Even if thats the case. Locke always does what he thinks is best. And as it turns out he often makes the wrong choices. And has yet to learn from his mistakes. I love the character, but he has blind faith. He briefly admitted he was wrong to Eko in the hatch, but he's regained his confidence in his beliefs. And since then he's as reckless as ever.

Off the island I would say you're right but on the island, how do we know his choices were wrong? The only one I can think of was when he didn't push the button but that was when he lost his faith in the island. I think Locke knows more then he's letting on.

After watching last night, I got the feeling the Richard is going to turn on Ben. He didn't seem too pleased with Ben's plan of going early, killing people. He seems a bit annoyed by him.

[hkrause]

Hmm....
But he would have been dead for an awful long while, not to mention at high altitudes in the bottom of a jet is very cold.....so more than likely he was frozen, no?

I am not saying they could not bring his father back, but man that is really scraping the bottom of a barrel for that one.

I don't think it's cold. The cargo hold is usually pressurized and warm. People do transport pets in the cargo hold safely.

-HK

[boredref]

I cannot l;ocate it ontheir site. Anyone know where to look? It is not listed on the Lost episodes.

[FrodoFraggins]

But why jump back into the water when you didn't have to, to get in the sub.
And you had plenty of time to walk the length of the pier?

because if it exploded early, you are less likely to get hit with something under water maybe? That and the fact that he only needed to go on the dock to get into the ship. And the dock was pretty exposed.

[FrodoFraggins]

Off the island I would say you're right but on the island, how do we know his choices were wrong? The only one I can think of was when he didn't push the button but that was when he lost his faith in the island. I think Locke knows more then he's letting on.

After watching last night, I got the feeling the Richard is going to turn on Ben. He didn't seem too pleased with Ben's plan of going early, killing people. He seems a bit annoyed by him.

What about boone? The sub? the chess game and blowing up that building? I'm sure I can find more. He's a menace!!

[LostMoose]

Damon Lindelof : "Kate was a fugitive off the island...."
Carlton Cuse: (quickly cuts off DL) "IS A FUGITIVE." (smirk)

Was CC trying to hush DL to avoid making us think they're all dead? Or was CC intentionally trying to continue to lead everyone along the whole p-word scenario. I know the Producers supposedly nixed this plot line, but you never know.

I just got the sense that CC is the real story maker here, and DL is just the guy who's trying to contribute here and there, but has got a higher TITLE so by default he gets to sit beside CC during these recap episodes.

CC just has more passion in his voice. DL is just like blah, blah, blah....we're my paycheck.

[see you in the next life]

I think that's because its a physical manifestation. Just because it manifests as something from Kate's brain, it doesn't mean Sawyer can't see it too.


It does, however, break a precedent established by every other vision from every other character.

No one else saw Dave

No one else saw Christian

etc. etc. etc.


That was my problem with the horse to begin with.

[normal42]

CC expressly statetd (again) last night they are not Purg*****.

And now, please, a moment of silence for the unkown kitty killed last night in an effort to finally put down this theory. Your sacrifice will not be forgotten.

[LostMoose]

I'm tired of the purg*** plot line too, but what was with that "WAS/IS" point made? Is it because DL is too stupid to articulate his thoughts, so it comes out wrong ("was") and CC had to quickly jump in and correct it ("IS!") for the sake of the viewers not thinking they're contradicting themselves about purg***? Was this scripted? Am I digging too deep??

[shrike3000]

You are digging to deep. That was a nothing exchange. Just CC pointing out that she will still have to deal with the fugitive thing should she ever escape the island.

[igator210]

Unless Kate is in jail or has a pardon she is still a fugitive.

I took the banter to mean that regardless of everything that has happened, she is still a criminal that is wanted for murder.

[rvturnage]

And I took it to mean even on the island she's a fugitive. She's been hunted and jailed by the Others, you know. It was just a joke...

[Homer Noodleman]

Shannon and Sayid both saw Walt, and we know for sure he wasn't really standing there.

[sterioss]

IF you listen to the podcast you find that this the way the two always exchange ideas in conversation. I've kinda grown accustom to hearing them converse in this way. Back and forth pointless comments.

[VonWesvolin]

Well, seeing as how (IF Naomi is telling the truth) the whole world thinks they are all dead, then Kate was a fugitive off the island. Perhaps, DL was thinking.... ah, who the hell am I kidding?

[interplanetjanet]

So we were supposed to get that the horse and wet backwards-talking Walt were Smokey? That was an answer given in the show? Man.

[DontdieCharlie]

so we are assuming that locke knows how to control a sub?

why would he want to move the sub, what purpose does that surve?

he walked out to the sub got in and moved in all in less than an hour, only to let it blow up again?


the "locke didnt blow up the submarine" is as far fetched a theory as the island being the fountain of youth....

[interplanetjanet]

The Locke stealing a sub theory posits Danielle's involvement. (Or possibly Alex.) Locke is then wet because of laying C-4 under the dock. Danielle, meanwhile, has a submarine.

Jack suddenly finds her an able coplotter; no reason Locke couldn't.

[mzsandeestar]

The producers gave us the answer...It is Jin's baby.

This does make a difference because it means we can believe Juliet. She may have lied to Ben , but she is being truthful to Jack and she really is helping the LOSTIES now, not double crossing them.

[billehmeg]

What I thought was intriguing from this show was the fact that they said outright that Ben led the purge and emerged as the leader of the Others because of it. I remember a lot of discussion before about whether the Hostiles got the gas from Ben or not and just how much involvement did Ben have in planning the execution of Dharma.

[Dartwick]

1 The producers not only said it wasnt purgatory. They explicitly said thay are allive, flesh and blood, somewhere.

2 It seems likely it was a hint that leaving the island may not be in Kates best interest.

[Mal]

What I thought was intriguing from this show was the fact that they said outright that Ben led the purge and emerged as the leader of the Others because of it. I remember a lot of discussion before about whether the Hostiles got the gas from Ben or not and just how much involvement did Ben have in planning the execution of Dharma.

ya i was suprised about that also... i had a few questions about that whole ordeal and i guess they cleared that up.

also i forgot that jacke and claire were half brother/sis which kinda suprised me again.

and the fact locke sort of failed the judgement the second time and he was being dragged into a hole... i thought as locke said that was the test when he was saying "let me go, let me go" to jack... maybe he's lucky jack didn't let hm go.

[Brian]

Merged.

[lostdrewski]

Wow! That was great!
Danielle crashed on the Island with her research team, (I knew it!) and has been wandering around on the Island. Poor Danielle!
Damon said there are 30-40 Others on the Island...well then he did say "We think." LOL!
Desmond really did prevent Global catastrophe, crashed the plane, and has a surprisingly NEW ability!
Dharma Initiative Island tour started in the late 70's early 80's.
AND they're alive SOMEWHERE IN THE TIME/SPACE CONTINUUM.
(Yes, Time is a river-you said it so well I cut and pasted it! ;)
So many solid answers-I feel better!
Anyone else?
Zia

And did anyone catch when D made the little tongue-in-cheek comment about them being rescued soon? Sounded like he was telling us that perhaps they will be rescued and the rest of the eps will take place off the island with flashbacks to the island.

Could this support O'Quinn selling his house in Hawaii?

Also, it seems like they have already explored/exposed everything on the island there is to expose...except Jacob's and Smokie's real mysteries...

[hkrause]

...Also, it seems like they have already explored/exposed everything on the island there is to expose...except Jacob's and Smokie's real mysteries...

I kinda still think of the giant foot statue as quite a mystery! Adam and Eve? The island's healing powers? The whisperers? Etc? There are still some things to explain.

-HK

[ZIA]

And did anyone catch when D made the little tongue-in-cheek comment about them being rescued soon? Sounded like he was telling us that perhaps they will be rescued and the rest of the eps will take place off the island with flashbacks to the island.

Could this support O'Quinn selling his house in Hawaii?

Also, it seems like they have already explored/exposed everything on the island there is to expose...except Jacob's and Smokie's real mysteries...
Damon said they were trying to get Naomi's phone to work, but that will never happen because then LOST would be over. Of course Carlton interjected and said "So you say...."

Terry O'Quinn sold his house in Hawai'i? That's not good news! ;)

[fatpeoplearefunnier]

Terry O'Quinn sold his house in Hawai'i? That's not good news! ;)

Don't read to much into it. Maybe he is going for an upgrade. They are probably not going to shoot new episodes till late fall, since season 4 won't start till january. He'll probbaly buy a new house in the fall when he comes back for more episodes.

Right, I don't believe they will kill him off.

[ZIA]

I hope not....

[wharf rat]

What makes you guys think Terry sold his house? Some silly rumor? Don't believe it... I will go up to the North Shore snd check it out next week. OK?

Found this on the web however,,, these are not the pic of his place I have previously seen.. Honest!

http://realestalker.blogspot.com/2007/05/get-lost-at-terry-oquinns-hawaii.html

Besides. If they kill Locke I am gone... The show is at least 50% LOCKE! Kill off someone else!

[redwithpurpleflashes]

also i forgot that jacke and claire were half brother/sis which kinda suprised me again.

lol, I always forget stuff like that. I think I'm more focused on where they are to remember the connections stuff.

Don't read to much into it. Maybe he is going for an upgrade. They are probably not going to shoot new episodes till late fall, since season 4 won't start till january. He'll probbaly buy a new house in the fall when he comes back for more episodes.

Right, I don't believe they will kill him off.

I think he said that he likes living in hotels because he doesn't like to be tied down.

[Mike512]

On the Lost: Answers special the other day the makers of the show said that the black smoke takes pictures of your memory (seen when there are flashes in front of Juliet when she hides with Kate in the trees when the black smoke appears) and that the black smoke flashes causes the smoke to see something in people's memories and makes them appear (Jack's father, Kate's horse, Walt in the jungle, etc.).

I never remember anyone discussing this before and I found it kind of interesting. I was actually suprised that they revealed something on the special. I thought it was just going to be a series recap.

[Midget]

I think people have speculated this for some time now, but if indeed the creators of the show openly admitted this then it is a huge question answered. But what about the bigger question? What IS smokey?

[RangerMel]

They also mentioned that the "magic box" metaphor applies to the entire island. The island is the magic box.

[lostboy]

nanobots

[Rock]

my favorite part of the special was when Darlton talked about how we would eventually find out about the survivor's past, present and future.

[cgrego44]

my question is...do you think the others control it or not? I think if they do it would be cool to see the losties get control of it and find out everything about the others like they did to them!

[RunLoganRun]

I never remember anyone discussing this before and I found it kind of interesting. I was actually suprised that they revealed something on the special. I thought it was just going to be a series recap.

Welcome Mike - The whole smokey taking images from your memory thing was discussed in depth last season during the episode with Eko - in which, smokey scans him and we see images from his past on the screen for a brief moment. I forget the episode title, but, I'm thinking around February 2006.

[thadigan]

Hasn't had the chance to do it before?

It will take a picture of her thoughts, go over them and determine if she should be killed like Eko or not.......

help me refresh my memory...has smokie ever killed anyone during its first encounter? Maybe it analyzes the first time, them judges the second.

Except for the pilot...had smokie seen the pilot before?
Or maybe smokie scanned the pilot immediately after the crash and came back while the losties were investigating the nose.

CC expressly statetd (again) last night they are not Purg*****.

And now, please, a moment of silence for the unkown kitty killed last night in an effort to finally put down this theory. Your sacrifice will not be forgotten.

Hmmm...methinks if an executive producer says the word, it may very well be an entire litter that suffers.

And did anyone catch when D made the little tongue-in-cheek comment about them being rescued soon?


That's what I got out of it as well...this is what it sounded like to me: "they can't get off the island...if they get off the island, the show's over........................isn't it? DUM DUM DUMMMMM"

[J_C]

When Smokie looks at you, it can manifest things from reading your mind.....



Truffula, your mod skills are showing; you've done some merging.
They did not say that.
They said [smokey] can see memories, and the Island creates 'apparitions' ( Trivia note: In the Survival guide they refered to them as 'manifestations')

[J_C]

An electromagnetic pulse came out of the Hatch and fried the planes instrumentation. Carlton says "a definitive answer as to why the plane crashed"

I agree - very importany statement.
Puts to rest the idea that the plane and or it's passengers were purposefully brought to the island.

[Unlocke Locke]

I kinda still think of the giant foot statue as quite a mystery! Adam and Eve? The island's healing powers? The whisperers? Etc? There are still some things to explain.

-HK

Yes and the numbers. In each recap they have had, they never say anything significant or explanatory about the numbers.

[Patrick]

Yes and the numbers. In each recap they have had, they never say anything significant or explanatory about the numbers.

Haha, everyone already knows what the numbers mean. Sucks for you.

[festus]

So we were supposed to get that the horse and wet backwards-talking Walt were Smokey? That was an answer given in the show? Man.

My sense of what this special was about was to eliminate the storylines began in Season Two when too many characters were killed off - Ana Lucia, Libby, Eko, its as if they want us to forget them forever.

What I saw was an attempt to connect Season One to Season Three and a plea for us not to get to wrapped up in continuity because in Season Two they kinda screwed up by adding a lot of layers. Oh, I know Desmond and the Dharma thing are important to the story, but all the tailies except Cindy and Bernard were killed.

Eko was built up to be somebody in the story, then suddenly he is dead and we are supposed to forget him. Call a spade a spade. This special helps get us the viewers on track to what we are supposed to be paying attention to.

I think they did a decent job of that. We have to let some things in the past of LOST go.

That's just my opinion. Season 3 has been more concrete, less elusive, more satisfying. I thing TPTB realized viewers were getting unsettled in season two.

The realization helped save LOST, it is now back on track and having Kyle L. narrate it is an inside joke. Twin Peaks died.

LOST LIVES ON!:Cheers:

[festus]

On the Lost: Answers special the other day the makers of the show said that the black smoke takes pictures of your memory (seen when there are flashes in front of Juliet when she hides with Kate in the trees when the black smoke appears) and that the black smoke flashes causes the smoke to see something in people's memories and makes them appear (Jack's father, Kate's horse, Walt in the jungle, etc.).

I never remember anyone discussing this before and I found it kind of interesting. I was actually suprised that they revealed something on the special. I thought it was just going to be a series recap.

That's why they are repeating it before the finale. In reference to my previous post, they want to give the viewers and those avid Lostie fans FOCUS!

[Surlymermaid]

My sense of what this special was about was to eliminate the storylines began in Season Two when too many characters were killed off - Ana Lucia, Libby, Eko, its as if they want us to forget them forever....

Eko was built up to be somebody in the story, then suddenly he is dead and we are supposed to forget him. Call a spade a spade.

...yeah, I hated it that they killed Eko off, but he asked to be written off when his father died (or so I read). I am hoping that sometime he will be proven to be alive, like I am hoping Locke will be...

[Pippa]

Sorry to be off-topic, but is anyone else bothered by that big Eye at the top of this message board?

[thadigan]

Sorry to be off-topic, but is anyone else bothered by that big Eye at the top of this message board?

Aye.

sorry couldn't resist.

[RangerMel]

Sorry to be off-topic, but is anyone else bothered by that big Eye at the top of this message board?



That's funny...it's disturbed me from day one.

[nomanisanisland]

Well except for Hurleys imaginary friend right?

If Smokey could re-create real people from a person's imagination, why not an imaginary friend, as well? As long as Hurly had a picture in his mind of what his "friend" looked like, then Smokey could iprobably mpersonate him.

[nomanisanisland]

I'm still of the mind that he didn't blow it up.

Then maybe Locked really did burn the first raft that Walt supposdly burnt.

[nomanisanisland]

There's just something about it...that doesn't seem quite right...

I mean, Locke was all wet, ya know...

When Damon and Carlton were quizzed about it on some morning radio show, they kinda dodged the question...

Wouldn't Locke get wet swimming out to the sub to blow it up?

[nomanisanisland]

Damon and Carlton said that they weren't in P'land, but alive SOMEWHERE IN THE TIME/SPACE CONTINUUM. Hmm, I wonder why they added that.

Because maybe they're hinting at the fact that maybe the time they think they're at isn't the time it is, in fact.

[nomanisanisland]

I just realized that Sawyer played Cindy.

He did, when?

[nomanisanisland]

Anyone notice how very clear D & C were about how they are actually giving us answers???


"And we answered that question when juliet takes Sun to the medical hatch to do some tests and we find that Jin is indeed the father."

so basically they want us to quit our bitching, we've been given answers , but they can't answer them all right now. And they're using the recent news that it's going to be a 6 season run to tell us to relax and let the story play out. Every good story has a begginning,middle,end. So will LOST.




I have a question for us. Well all of you. Where did the nickname Mr. Friendly come from. We've used many for Tom over the years, but the only place I've ever heard "Mr. Friendly" is here. Did someone on THIS board coin it?


Wow, I was wondering the same thing! Maybe someone read it in a podcast and brought it over here.

[nomanisanisland]

About Kate's father issues: Her mom divorced Austin when Kate was young, about 4 or 5. Previously, Austin had been stationed somewhere in a war, and her mom was having an affair with Wayne. So Wayne was kate's biological father, but she grew up thinking that Austin was her father and Wayne was her stepfather. She found out the truth right before she killed Wayne and went on the run. Her parents both knew the truth, but didn't want to tell her. That was when Austin said, basically, 'I knew you'd kill him because you have murder in your heart.'

And her entire life, Austin acted as her real dad, a true father, even though he knew he wasn't her biological dad, and even though he was divorced from her mom. Wayne was an ass, and I'm not sure he ever knew kate was his biological daughter.

Thanks for recapping that for us, I was a little hazy on that.

I had a thought, strange though it may be. But is it possible that Wayne didn't actually die in that explosion? Maybe he slipped out the back door or something? I have a feeling a lot of fathers are going to mysteriously end up on the ilsand much like Locke's dad did, including Wayne.

Wait another thought, maybe Locke's dad wasn't really there, but was just another island manifestation. I wonder if any of those island manifestations had substance, ie. could be felt. Kate pet the horse, didn't she?

[nomanisanisland]

So now that we know for sure that Locke is thwarting all attempts to leave the island, why can't he just stay when the rescue ship arrives?

Everyone - "Bye Locke"

Locke - "Peace. I'm gonna stay here...where I can walk..."

What's wrong with that?

1. He doesn't want to live alone.

2. Once people find out about the island, it won't be a private domaine anymore. They'll build casinos, shopping malls, and pave paradise and put up a parking lot. Hey, bop, bop, bop, hey, bop, bop, bop!

[nomanisanisland]

But why jump back into the water when you didn't have to, to get in the sub.
And you had plenty of time to walk the length of the pier?


When a person sets a bomb, they're kind of in a hurry to get away. The fastest way to go was to jump into the water. Besides, does the water prevent a person from catching fire, if the explosion were to go off too soon?

[mzsandeestar]

"Answers" was just so much better than previous recap shows. I hope TPTB pay attention to the positive response this show gets.
I think a great way to fill some half hour slots that don't get many viewers anyway would be for ABC to schedule LOST question and answer sessions with TPTB. It's cheap to produce, should get as big an audience as some rerun of George Lopez and will keep the LOST fans (and maybe even some newer ones) primed for season four.

[interplanetjanet]

I think "Mr. Friendly" was what tptb called Tom after he first appeared to kidnap Walt, when he had no name. Sawyer called him "Zeke" later (at the line?) and we used that too. We didn't get the name "Tom" until the S2 finale.

[snakey]

What makes you guys think Terry sold his house? Some silly rumor? Don't believe it... I will go up to the North Shore snd check it out next week. OK?

Found this on the web however,,, these are not the pic of his place I have previously seen.. Honest!

http://realestalker.blogspot.com/2007/05/get-lost-at-terry-oquinns-hawaii.html

Besides. If they kill Locke I am gone... The show is at least 50% LOCKE! Kill off someone else!

I thought they all were renting, that's a big commitment to buy that large a home there. I'm more surprised that he actually owned that then that he's selling it. They must have gave him a deal that if the show got picked up he was guaranteed a few years. Thanks for that info WR.

[Dharma For One]

Puts to rest the idea that the plane and or it's passengers were purposefully brought to the island.
Why would it put that to rest? The producers are saying this is why the plane came down, which basically confirms what everyone on this board already knew. We already knew from S2 that Desmond not pushing the Swan button was tied into the plane crashing. Their reveal doesn't answer any questions related to the sequence of events with Desmond and Kelvin that day that would lead one to conclude that the plane or it's passengers were purposefully, or accidentally, brought to the island.

[OldSmokey]

TPTB are still lying to us !!!!!!!!

They said that the EMP fried the electronics and this crashed the plane ,CC said this was definative yes ?

So since when does an EMP snap a plane in half ?

1 They are lying !

2 They think we are all stupid !

So which is it ?

The more I hear the less chance of me waiting for S4 .which is a pity because I thought this was a great show,now I am not so sure .............

[leenzii]

I'd say nothing. It says a lot about Locke that he chooses the method that will force all the 815ers to remain on the island.

I would say that when Ben states 'no one leaves the island' and that locke also wants no one to go: if they leave and talk about their events on the island every news broadcaster and their mother will want to know about the place. Locke wants it to stay special :D

[leenzii]

TPTB are still lying to us !!!!!!!!

They said that the EMP fried the electronics and this crashed the plane ,CC said this was definative yes ?

So since when does an EMP snap a plane in half ?

1 They are lying !

2 They think we are all stupid !

So which is it ?

The more I hear the less chance of me waiting for S4 .which is a pity because I thought this was a great show,now I am not so sure .............



have you ver watched any shows about plane crashes? maybe the strain of the thing coming down out of the air ripped it apart, rather than the EMP blast being the specific reason it broke up.

[ZIA]

Truffula, your mod skills are showing; you've done some merging.
They did not say that.
They said [smokey] can see memories, and the Island creates 'apparitions' ( Trivia note: In the Survival guide they refered to them as 'manifestations')
I caught the differentation between Smokey and the Island too.
I also thought it was an important statement to make.
Zia

[Frediemac]

"Answers" was just so much better than previous recap shows. I hope TPTB pay attention to the positive response this show gets.
I think a great way to fill some half hour slots that don't get many viewers anyway would be for ABC to schedule LOST question and answer sessions with TPTB. It's cheap to produce, should get as big an audience as some rerun of George Lopez and will keep the LOST fans (and maybe even some newer ones) primed for season four.

I agree, I think they should run a Lost (Answer) Clip show every 3-4 months.
They should run a Lost Clip Show sometime in the fall for a build up to February 2008. GOD THIS BREAK IS GOING TO SUCK HARD!

[ZIA]

A "good" answer clip, right? This one was definately worth watching.

[xpButtercup]

I had a thought, strange though it may be. But is it possible that Wayne didn't actually die in that explosion? Maybe he slipped out the back door or something? I have a feeling a lot of fathers are going to mysteriously end up on the ilsand much like Locke's dad did, including Wayne.


For once, I may have an answer instead of 100 more questions ...

I believe, in this season's episode on Kate, when she was talking to her mother about Wayne, her mom said "You burned him alive" or something similar to that. Leads me to believe that (gruesome) remains were found.

Of course, we can never assume anything with LOST.

:Cheers:

[nomanisanisland]

For once, I may have an answer instead of 100 more questions ...

I believe, in this season's episode on Kate, when she was talking to her mother about Wayne, her mom said "You burned him alive" or something similar to that. Leads me to believe that (gruesome) remains were found.

Of course, we can never assume anything with LOST.

:Cheers:

True, unlikely that he's alive, but you do never know with Lost! And even if he died, that wouldn't stop him from showing up in some form or another.

[WASTE]

I skimmed the recent posts and couldn't find anything, but I was just wondering. Did the one-hour version of The Answers that aired tonight have any interesting information, if anyone watched it...?

[Black Manta]

What I hate about this is that I don't think there was anyway for us to have guessed some of this info. The Horse was Smokey? And so was Christian? ANd I always wondered about that chain thing that grabbed Locke in the first season finale. That was Smokey??

[merry slug]

My sense of what this special was about was to eliminate the storylines began in Season Two when too many characters were killed off - Ana Lucia, Libby, Eko, its as if they want us to forget them forever.



Agreed. I figured that this special would show us only the most important, salient points (they only have an hour, after all), and they didn't mention the tailies once.

[sdunn96]

After seeing the finale and Jack's Flash Forward, I kinda understand the statement "They are somewhere in the space, time, continuium......"

[The_Lurker]

Anyone know if there is an online transcript of this program available? I did a quick search but didn't find one.

Someone claims the writers confirmed that Ben was lying about being able to see/hear Jacob and I don't recall them confirming that at all. My theory was that Ben could see/hear Jacob right up until the "Help me" that Locke heard. Can anyone help?

[ZIA]

Anyone know if there is an online transcript of this program available? I did a quick search but didn't find one.

Someone claims the writers confirmed that Ben was lying about being able to see/hear Jacob and I don't recall them confirming that at all. My theory was that Ben could see/hear Jacob right up until the "Help me" that Locke heard. Can anyone help?

TPTB didn't confirm Ben was lying about seeing Jacob, but Ben was definately not able to hear Jacob. That's why Ben was so furious-because Locke IS special and Locke did hear Jacob and Ben never has.
Zia

[wish I were a Lostie]

TPTB didn't confirm Ben was lying about seeing Jacob, but Ben was definately not able to hear Jacob. That's why Ben was so furious-because Locke IS special and Locke did hear Jacob and Ben never has.
Zia

I just thought that Ben was upset that Locke heard Jacob because Ben has always been the ONLY ONE who ever heard Jacob. Locke's ability to hear Jacob confirmed he was a threat to Ben's hegemony.

[ZIA]

You could be right. It was not actually stated; just implied.IMO.

[sweetsunray]

Except for the pilot...had smokie seen the pilot before?
Or maybe smokie scanned the pilot immediately after the crash and came back while the losties were investigating the nose.

Pilot is killled on the second day. But previously that night Smokey is in the jungle checking things out at least... That's when the Losties from the beach hear it and see the trees wave the first time. So, yeah, my bet is that Smokey checked the pilot out the night right after they crashed on the island, and before Jack, Kate and Charlie went looking for the nose and found the pilot.

[sweetsunray]

What I hate about this is that I don't think there was anyway for us to have guessed some of this info. The Horse was Smokey? And so was Christian? ANd I always wondered about that chain thing that grabbed Locke in the first season finale. That was Smokey??

Locke getting grabbed: somewhat before the attack Jack and Kate notice some black smoke skitting through the trees along with the matrix printer sound. Jack asks Kate whether she saw that, and Kate then says to the rest of them they need to get the hell away from there. As they start to move out faster, the whole shabang of noises (doors slamming and hooting sounds) comes and they run (with Jack taking his pack of and Kate not). But Locke doesn't run. He moves towards the noise, thrilled and inquisitive. And then Smokey explodes out of the earth right beside his feet and Locke is face to face with it, like before. And when it comes closer to his face, Locke's face turns from boob to scared. He scrambles up and runs for his life, with Smokey chasing him. It grabs him and pulls him into the hole it previously boomed open. And Locke's really scared. It's when Jack is holding on to him that he starts to say to let him go. After Kate throws the dynamite in the hole, you see Smokey escape: both Kate and Jack saw it leave in the woods.

So, yeah that was definitely Smokey.

As for the havids being Smokey... they are at least related to it and obviously based on Smokey's mindreading. Eko's epi showed that. He had Yemi havids while awake, and in the epi he died Yemi asked him to confess. When Eko told him he had nothing to confess, because he hadn't done anything wrong because he did his best with the life he got, the Yemi havid suddenly says, indignant, "You speak to me as if I'm your brother." Eko realizes then that it's not his brother, but something posing as his brother. He runs after it and then meets his execution by Smokey after his judgement.

If Eko's havid Yemi is Smokey related, then that pushes for the suggestion that the other awake visions other Losties had (also related to their guilt and possible sin) are from the same source as Yemi.

[Hodgepodge]

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[NOGOD]

but they pointed out smokey is whats appearing as wet walt, yemi and so on