Morning Glory Wine...

[Stuart O'Quin]

I have recently come into the possesion of a fair amount of both 'Heavenly Blue' and 'Pearly Gates' morning glory seeds. I had hoped to create some of the wondeful morning glory wine that I have heard so much about. I figured with a community as diverse as this one, I might find someone with experience or, at the very least, knowledge of some advisable techniques for achieving this goal.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

[redwithpurpleflashes]

No idea but I don't suggest eating them. They (Hawaiian Baby Woodrose) got me really sick to my stomach and gave me a really long panic attack (not sure how long though, a bit of lost time happened as well).

[camelsmoker]

I'm not an expert, by any means, but I believe Morning Glory wine is made from steeping the petals of the actual flowers in a water based solution which is then fermented.

If you're looking for another type of experience, you should do an internet search. The lysergic acid amide (LSA, not LSD--lysergic acid diethylamide) in the seeds are soluble in ethanol, which passes through mucous membranes (in your mouth, most likely) directly into the bloodstream, and takes effect nearly instantaneously. You should be able to find a decent recipe for extraction on the 'net.

I don't know what the legal status of Morning Glory seeds, or its LSA derivative, is where you are, but I recommend you find out.

And be careful. Hallucinogens, no matter how mild, are not to be taken lightly.

[blue sunrise]

You've had some very diverse fields of study, Perfesser. :eyebrow:

[sals]

Just don't eat any of the green parts...leaves, the vine...it's poisonous.

Morning Glory is a "deadly nightshade" and related to tomato, potato and eggplant.

You can eat the fruit of these but not the greens. The greens contain solanine. Even a potato that grows too close to the surface where sunlight can hit it will get a green solanine spot.

Green tomatoes somehow are exempt.

Oh, and if you plant the Morning Glory seeds, make sure you grow the plant in a container. It's a very invasive plant. It will spread and you'll never get rid of it.

I don't know a thing about making wine from the flowers.


Sals

[redwithpurpleflashes]

Just don't eat any of the green parts...leaves, the vine...it's poisonous.


I just read up on this earlier and even the seeds have a poison in them that reacts with your saliva when you chew the seeds hence the belly ache they gave me. It wasn't a pleasant experience but I was never very good at psychedelics.

[camelsmoker]

You can eat the fruit of these but not the greens. The greens contain solanine. Even a potato that grows too close to the surface where sunlight can hit it will get a green solanine spot.The green spot on the potato is from chlorophyll, which is harmless, but is an indicator of increased glycoalkaloid production in the entire potato tuber.

In other words, don't eat green potatoes.

[sals]

The green spot on the potato is from chlorophyll, which is harmless, but is an indicator of increased glycoalkaloid production in the entire potato tuber.

In other words, don't eat green potatoes.


We're both right.

http://www.snopes.com/food/ingredient/potato.asp


Sals

[Iggy the Lizard]

bad news

and i grow them as prettyes

[gertie]

didn't ken kesey or someone write about this?

I bet it was kurt vonnegut! Who was it?

[Stuart O'Quin]

I have used erowid quite extensively in the past, and though they have detailed instructions for preparing them for direct consumption with ethanol, or mixing them with liquor for the same effect, but very little on fermentation.

I am doing a few trial runs to see what works best on a short time-table. I'll let everybody know how it turns out. I also plan on eating some of the seeds, but I am not sure if I'm going to use lighter fluid (as recommended) or take the alternate route and just wash them with detergent first. I have a special interest in the wine, because unlike the ether procedure, the finished product in both easier on the way down and legal in the States.

Morning glories, and their seeds are straight here, but LSA extracts are not. Thanks for all the help thus far guys...

[solat]

I also plan on eating some of the seeds, but I am not sure if I'm going to use lighter fluid (as recommended) or take the alternate route and just wash them with detergent first.

I'm much to anxious of a person to actually use any sort of psychoactive substance myself, but I do know some organic chemistry.

Lighter fluid, or butane, is an organic solvent. Solanine (which you want to remove) looks like this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/A-solanine.gif


That's going to readily dissolve in an organic solvent, but a common household detergent would not be ideal for removing it, because of its aqueous character. Any remnants of detergent left over on the seeds would also further irritate your GI tract.

Go with the lighter fluid - it's highly volatile and should evaporate off the seeds quickly anyway. So, you wont be ingesting very much of it.

[Stuart O'Quin]

I'm much to anxious of a person to actually use any sort of psychoactive substance myself, but I do know some organic chemistry.

Any pschoactive? I suggest that you expiriment with 'magic tea' made from buzz milk (obviously derived from cannabis). It is very mellow and tranquil ride - I experienced virtually no paranoia.

EDIT: Anyone else have good experiences with psychoactives? I am always one for tales of a good journey (or trip, if you must)...

[redwithpurpleflashes]

Where do you legally get morning glory seeds that are safe for consumption (i.e. no added poisons). My experience was bad because we took too many (12 or 13) and we just ate them straight. After I "got sick" I felt really good and calm and would be curious to try it again. I did have a pretty bad psychedelic hangover the next day though (mostly depression).

[TheBigCat]

Moving this until we can decide what to do with it.