View Full Version : I know what the Orchid is for (ST)
LOSTmylife108
08-02-07, 09:10 PM
OK, so i know a lot of people think that either time-travel or cloning is the Orchid's purpose, however I have another idea. First of all, the producers said that this show isn't really science fiction, and they would not include either of the former ideas in the show. All we know is that rabbit no. 15 seemed to be in two places at once. In other words, Rabbit no. 15 was seen in a place it wasn't supposed to be. Sound familar? When Micheal went to the dummy camp to find his son, Klugh asked Micheal if Walt was ever "in a place he wasn't supposed to be." This phenomenon is called "Bilocation," and I think that is what the Orchid is studying. I think this is why the Other's were so interested in Walt, and I think they may have took him to this station to do studies on him. We do know that whatever they were doing to Walt was probably not being carried out at this dummy camp becuase there didn't seem to be a computer for Walt to communicate with his Dad. Originally, Micheal thought they were keeping him in a hatch at the camp because there was a door that was being guarded. However it was just a fake, there was no hatch beyong the door, just a rock wall. They wanted him to stop looking, so they made him think that his son was beyond this door. So if Walt were using a computer it must have been in a diffrent hatch. Moreover, on the "blastdoor map" one hatch is scribbled over w/ an Unkown above it, next to it it says "maybe no. 6" which is the number of the Orchid. Near this there is something in Latin, translated as "Lift up your hearts" but what is interesting is that it is repeated 3 times, which is consistent with "things appearing more than once." When Micheal (and probably Walt) come back in Season 4, hopefully they will reveal what the Others were doing w/ Walt. And this could tie into the Orchid perfectly.
truffula
08-02-07, 09:13 PM
The Orchid was not mentioned on the show, therefore this must go to Spoilers forum.
Moving.
Cousin Eddie
08-02-07, 09:21 PM
being carried out at this dummy camp
And then this one time... At Dummy Camp.
island_maverick
08-02-07, 09:31 PM
The Orchid was not mentioned on the show, therefore this must go to Spoilers forum.
Moving.Thanks for grabbing that Truff.
island_maverick
08-02-07, 09:31 PM
And then this one time... At Dummy Camp.:rotfl:
Winston Smith
08-02-07, 09:56 PM
I like your theory. I think it 's a good possobility. But this could also have to do with time travel as well.
We do know that whatever they were doing to Walt was probably not being carried out at this dummy camp becuase there didn't seem to be a computer for Walt to communicate with his Dad.
You are also assuming that Walt sent the messages. I thought it was clear that Ben duped Micheal into believing it was Walt. He told Juliet they would use Micheal to get at Jack when they visited the Pearl.
LOSTmylife108
08-03-07, 05:21 AM
Lindelof said that a DVD set of the first season will come out this summer, before a second season begins in the fall. As the show progresses, he added, it won't venture too far into science fiction as its mysteries unfold. "We're still trying to be ... firmly ensconced in the world of science fact," he said in an interview. "I don't think we've shown anything on the show yet ... that has no rational explanation in the real world that we all function within. We certainly hint at psychic phenomena, happenstance and ... things being in a place where they probably shouldn't be. But nothing is flat-out impossible. There are no spaceships. There isn't any time travel."
This is from http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue406/news.html
LostViking
08-03-07, 08:57 PM
"I don't think we've shown anything on the show yet ... that has no rational explanation in the real world that we all function within. We certainly hint at psychic phenomena, happenstance and ... things being in a place where they probably shouldn't be. But nothing is flat-out impossible. There are no spaceships. There isn't any time travel."
Lostmylife,
I have read that same article. But they have contradicted themselves over and over. They have also said more recently that Lost is a stealth science fiction show.
theghostofwalt
08-04-07, 06:18 AM
OK, so i know a lot of people think that either time-travel or cloning is the Orchid's purpose, however I have another idea. First of all, the producers said that this show isn't really science fiction, and they would not include either of the former ideas in the show.
well, cloning isnt science "fiction"- but how is being in two places at once more grounded in reality than time travel?
didn't desmond time travel?
interesting idea, but I think its being used for faster than light signals.
quantum teleportation etc.. quantum tunnelling..
even causality
(maybe I should have written that one first ?)
New Guy
08-06-07, 09:22 AM
Lost is science fiction.
Ida Monster
08-06-07, 11:52 AM
Lindelof said that a DVD set of the first season will come out this summer, before a second season begins in the fall. As the show progresses, he added, it won't venture too far into science fiction as its mysteries unfold. "We're still trying to be ... firmly ensconced in the world of science fact," he said in an interview. "I don't think we've shown anything on the show yet ... that has no rational explanation in the real world that we all function within. We certainly hint at psychic phenomena, happenstance and ... things being in a place where they probably shouldn't be. But nothing is flat-out impossible. There are no spaceships. There isn't any time travel."
This is from http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue406/news.html
This quote is old.. from an issue that came out between season 1 and season 2. We all know differently now that what TPTB say and what they do are two entirely separate things.
tptb cant be trusted when they say something. there absolutly is time travel in the show, as demonstrated by desmond.
9mile monster
08-06-07, 01:14 PM
We've seen the Orchid before. I rewatched The Curtain last night and was given another look at the black and white lei given to new people arriving to the island.
http://gallery.lost-media.com/albums/ep-caps/season3/3x20-curtain/1/normal_curtain-cap082.jpg (javascript:;)
A pretty little white orchid with the black. I wonder if this means anything?
korndiddy
08-06-07, 04:06 PM
I like it.
well, cloning isnt science "fiction"- but how is being in two places at once more grounded in reality than time travel?
You can explain most anything with pop quantum physics theory.
"Schroedinger's Cat"--the hypothetical cat in the box exists in two hypothetical states, dead and alive. Is this a kind of bilocation? You open the box to find out which state, and it becomes one and only one cat observed. The action of the observer forces the outcome. Maybe the work at the Orchid is finding a way to make the two alternatives both real.
In the film clip, there was great concern about not allowing Rabbits #15 close contact. "Get him out of here!" I'm no physics expert, but maybe the writers aren't either.
didn't desmond time travel?
I don't consider that time travel.
He was out cold and could have imagined everything...
what about astral projection? can't that explain Walt's ability to be in more that one place wothout actually being cloned?
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