View Full Version : LOST Hiatus Rewatch #3 (10/21/09-10/27/09)-S3E17: Catch-22
This is the discussion thread for the LOST-TV Hiatus Rewatch - Season 3 Episode 17, "Catch-22"
Written by : Jeff Pinkner & Brian K. Vaughan
The original thread for this episode can be found here (http://losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33781).
General questions about the LOST-TV Hiatus Rewatch can be posted in the LOST-TV Hiatus Rewatch thread (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37370).
Episode Description:
Desmond coaxes Charlie, Hurley and Jin on a trek into the jungle where they see a parachutist crash onto the Island. Kate has sex with Sawyer after Jack and Juliet have dinner together.
I love the Desmond-centric episodes.
I see Desmond as troubled and complicated. Although Desmond is quite capable of moments of pure bravery and morality; everything he does is overshadowed by extreme fear of actually being a coward.
He entered the race to prove that Penny's father was, well...an ass; but it's in his entering the race that he only accomplishes running away from Penny: the girl who truly loves him, faulty as he may seem to the outside observer. (I personally love him) Now, regrettably; that's all Desmond wants. Running away from something is running toward something else.
Desmond believes that Penny is coming to the island, and yet he can't bring himself to let the prophecy of Charlie's death come to pass. Now Desmond has other issues to contend with. When he saved Charlie, did he change who was in the parachute?
There are so many variables here; any alteration in the visions could possibly change the way the future unfolds, but due to 'course-correcting' the end result is always the same. You can only change the way in which the inevitable happens. "No matter what you do, you can't change it."
The quality I really like about Desmond is that he is constantly searching for his higher calling and striving to figure out what his purpose in life is. Desmond feels trapped by his FATE, but I think somehow realizes that the island is part of his destiny and is trying to come to terms with it, redeem himself, and (hopefully) end up reunited with Penny.
Thanks Zia - I was trying to find a way of describing Desmond without going on and on - and you did it for me ! I love Desmond - that lovely Scots accent ! He is so tortured and determined to do the right thing.
Hurley's comment when Desmond asks him where the cable is. Hurley says "This is future crap, isn't it ?"
Charlie and Hurley arguing the relative merits of Superman or The Flash are great ! They were such good mates ! And Jin who doesn't have a clue what's going on but joins in anyway !
I'll be baaack !
Sawyer is trying to get back into Kate's er - good books. He goes to her tent and finds her half dressed. When he gets over his distraction he asks
her if she told Jack about them having sex. She says he knows anyway - he saw them on the cameras. "Those perverts" says Sawyer in disgust ! Then Sawyer's logic comes into play - OK as long as he knows, how about a little afternoon delight ?" "It means sex" ! And then "You need me to make you a mix tape ?" "You do that", says Kate. The look on Sawyer's face was "Women, you can't live with them and you can't live without them !" Sawyer is so transparent - she has really got to him - and doesn't she just know it.
Then she has her embarrassing little exchange in the kitchen with Jack where she licks the spoon and gives it to him, and I could be wrong but I think he discards it. I was cringing too much to concentrate ! Flirtatious Kate just doesn't quite ring true ! When Jack leaves and Kate sees him and Juliet together eating dinner, she goes straight to Sawyer's tent and jumps him. He asks why she's crying but she tells him to shut up and get on with it. Which he does !
Next day Jack and Sawyer play ping pong which Sawyer wins, and Jack very ungraciously says he hasn't played since he was 12 so no wonder he lost. He susses out about Jack and Juliet having dinner together and why Kate was upset. He has managed to get a "Best of" Phil Collins tape off Bernard which he gives to Kate. When he asks her if she jumped him because of them she says it wasn't like that, to which he replies "if you wanted to use me, Freckles, you only had to ask !"
I know thats pretty trivial compared to some of the other stuff going on, but in a way its not. I wonder what TPTB are doing here - they are turning Kate into a real little "scrubber", Sawyer into a sex-starved loser, and Jack into a pompous, self-opinionated creep. I find it hard to believe that Jack is getting friendly with Juliet to make Kate jealous. How old are these people anyway ?
I didn't like where TPTB were going with Kate
It became clear to me that Kate's choices and actions revolve around what Jack and Sawyer think of her, not how she views herself. It makes her seem really insecure and full of self doubt.
The character of Kate has always seemed rather contrived and forced. And although that was tolerable, the love triangle made it even worse.
They turned a self-reliant and strong willed character into one who is now snivelling and conniving at the same time, making her nearly as transparent as glass and almost as fragile.
They started her off as this "Natural Born Killers"/Juliette Lewis type character(well maybe not quite so full on), who's life now seems to revolve around delivering babies (Aaron), going on expeditions to maternity hatches, helping out with pregnancy tests, hopping in and out of various beds with the island "hunk" and sobbing over the island goodie-goodie ! Lets hope things will improve next season. But don't hold your breath ...........!
11Rooster11
01-21-08, 09:10 PM
The big thing that I took from this episode is that it appears that Desmond has been carefully steered along his path. It seems that there have been signposts (or guides) that have assured Desmond find the path that he ultimately found.
In Flashes, we were confused about what was going on. But one thing that is certain is that the ring lady made sure he didn't buy the ring. She led him away from Penny and toward the Island. She was a signpost. She was there to move him in the right direction.
In Catch 22 we are introduced to another signpost for Desmond. We learn that Desmond was engaged.
DESMOND: Look... yes... I was scared about the wedding, so I had a few pints too many. Maybe I raised my eyes and I asked, 'Am I doing the right thing?'... and that's the last thing I remember. And when I woke up, I was lying on my back in the street and I don't know how I got there. And there was this man standing over me, Ruth. And he reached out his hand and he said to me, "Can I help you, brother?" And the first thing I noticed was the rope tied around his waist and I looked at him and... I knew, I knew I was supposed to go with him. I was supposed to leave everything that mattered behind. Sacrifice all of it for a greater calling.
Marrying Ruth was not the right path. For an accomplished drinker like Desmond I wonder if there was something extra in his drink. Anyway when he wakes Brother Campbell is there, leading him to the next phase, the next set of events that ultimately leads him to his destiny.
Brother Campbell keeps watch over Desmond until the time comes to send him on the next phase of his journey. That next step is meeting Penny. Did the Monk notify Derek of Desmond's whereabouts knowing that Desmond would lose his way? That gave him the ability to "fire" Desmond one day before Penny would arrive at the Abbey to pick up the wine.
BROTHER CAMPBELL: I'm sure you did hear the call, but the Abbey clearly isn't where you were meant to end up. I have little doubt that God has different plans than you being a monk, Desmond. Bigger plans.
DESMOND: Oh, I'm sure he does.
BROTHER CAMPBELL: He does. You've just spent too much time running away to realize what you may be running toward.
[Brother Campbell gets up and begins to walk away.]
DESMOND: Hey?
[He turns.]
DESMOND: What am I supposed to do now?
BROTHER CAMPBELL: Whatever comes next.
He even goes as far as to instruct Desmond to do "whatever comes next."
The next morning Campbell even manages to keep Desmond around by saying he'll get a ride into town if he waits a couple hours. Low and behold in those two hours Penny arrives and they get to talking. Etc. Campbell has succeeded. He has moved Desmond along the path. The picture of the ring lady on Campbell's desk implies that they know one another. Too much of a coincidence that they have now both guided Desmond toward his destiny.
So who else might be a signpost for Desmond? Libby is a logical choice. She gives him the boat. The other question is was turning the key his destiny or is there something still to come.
Sorry this was a bit of a rambler for me.
Good stuff, rewatchers! I personally do think it would have been Penny in the tree, had Des not saved Charlie, and I love the Catch 22 tie in.
When I saw Charlie pick up the Hula Doll, I was like "OMG, I found it!" I got all excited for a minute, than realized that we were looking for another shot of it because it seemed so familiar in that scene. Well I thought I was a hero there for a minute! Darn!
ozchick
01-22-08, 12:55 AM
There are so many fantastic one liners in this episode:
DESMOND: Nah, you're alright. I've taped my share of ankles.
JACK: Right.
SAWYER: Come on now freckles, wait. Now hold... You need me to make you a mix tape?
HURLEY: Watch the master.
HURLEY: Just one thing, last time I followed this wire into the jungle, I almost got kabobbed by one of Rousseau's spiky death trap things.
SAWYER: What, my doorbell busted again?
SAWYER: Hope I'm not interrupting. You two arguing over who's your favorite Other?
JACK: Where'd you get the table?
SAWYER: Don't you recognize it? Fell out of the purple haze when the hatch went blammo. If we don't play every 108 minutes, the island's gonna explode.
HURLEY: Thanks for the heads up about bringing the umbrella, dude.
Plus Jin's campfire story and the entire Superman/Flash sequence. Such good stuff!
I also love when Des climbs up on Hurley, and the entire end, with the cutting back and forth between meeting Penny and finding Naomi.
I feel for Sawyer, I really do. He has completely fallen for Kate, yet recognizes she's using him.
And of course the introduction of the HULA DOLL! :D :rotfl:
Sawyer nicknames:
Freckles: Kate
Doc: Jack
There were a lot of great lines! But, I don't remember Hurley following the wire really - was that when he went in search of batteries?
I feel for Sawyer, I really do. He has completely fallen for Kate, yet recognizes she's using him.
Ozchick - Sad, isn't it. But he figures its never going to be, not as long as Mr. Perfect Pants is smarming around in the background, so I suppose he figures he may just as well take advantage, as well as trying to give her some comfort, while he can.
After what we saw in the S3 final, Sawyer was quite off-hand with Kate - well he had his reasons ! - so hopefully he may cool it for a while. Maybe if he gives her the cold shoulder she may start treating him with respect. Hmmm -doubt it !
Its Vanilla
01-22-08, 04:06 AM
I was just over at Lostpedia, and I believe that there's an error in Desmond's timeline. According to them, Desmond began dating Ruth in 1989, then ran off and joined the monestary, eventually meeting Penny in 1995.
I believe this to be wrong. A crate of wine that Desmond is carrying out of the monestary to put into Penny's car has "1989" written on it. That leads me to believe that Desmond meets Penny in 1989, and would've dated Ruth from 1983-1989. Celtic won the Scottish cup in 1985, 1988, and 1989, that still fits.
Am I missing something that places Desmond meeting Penny in 1995?
The next morning Campbell even manages to keep Desmond around by saying he'll get a ride into town if he waits a couple hours. Low and behold in those two hours Penny arrives and they get to talking. Etc. Campbell has succeeded. He has moved Desmond along the path. The picture of the ring lady on Campbell's desk implies that they know one another. Too much of a coincidence that they have now both guided Desmond toward his destiny.
Awesome post! That just clarified Ms. Hawking in the picture for me. I couldn't figure out what the relationship could possibly be. Your observations make a lot of sense.
I was just over at Lostpedia, and I believe that there's an error in Desmond's timeline. According to them, Desmond began dating Ruth in 1989, then ran off and joined the monestary, eventually meeting Penny in 1995.
I believe this to be wrong. A crate of wine that Desmond is carrying out of the monestary to put into Penny's car has "1989" written on it. That leads me to believe that Desmond meets Penny in 1989, and would've dated Ruth from 1983-1989. Celtic won the Scottish cup in 1985, 1988, and 1989, that still fits.
Am I missing something that places Desmond meeting Penny in 1995?
Maybe the wine she bought was bottled in 1989? She probably would want wine from a good year seeing as Daddy is picking up the tab and buying a lot - she wouldn't have to buy wine from 1995.
She probably would want wine from a good year seeing as Daddy is picking up the tab and buying a lot
I don't know, personally I prefer wine from bad years because it's cheaper. Not that MD 20/20 is bad or cheap mind you!
I don't think it can be classified as "wine", either!
Wow, I finally caught up.
Some interesting things to note:
Had Desmond never had the vision, they never would've gone out in the jungle to begin with. That's one of the paradoxes of seeing the future/time traveling.
Had Charlie lived or died, wouldn't have changed who was in the helicopter, they'd already crashed on the island before Charlie was endangered-we can't blame Desmond, though, he was desperate.
This is the third (and final?) episode this season to be named after a book. It's also the only episode to feature the book it was named after.
The first time I saw this episode I thought it was Nadia in that jumpsuit (or whatever you call it.) I swear every time we see Nadia in this show she looks so different, I just thought this was one of those moments. I wonder how interesting it would've been if it was Nadia. ;)
Had Charlie lived or died, wouldn't have changed who was in the helicopter, they'd already crashed on the island before Charlie was endangered-we can't blame Desmond, though, he was desperate.
I can't agree with this part, I'm not big on philosophy, but in my mind - the identity of the person in the tree depended on the path of events. If Charlie got hit with the arrow, it would have been Penny. Des changed things, it turned out to be Naomi. Like there are 2 possible worlds and the one that becomes reality depends on the course you choose. But that's just my opinion.
Its Vanilla
01-23-08, 04:14 AM
Desmond saving Charlie only changed one thing. It changed who would've died swimming down to the Looking Glass.
IMO, Penny would've never been in the helicopter. She's a rich, "socialite", type. How, or why for that matter, would she pilot a helicopter?
Desmond saving Charlie kept Charlie alive until he could take Desmond's place drowning in the Looking Glass.
I waver on this.
Desmond said, "No matter what you do, you can't change it."
I think although you can change certain variables that lead up to a vision actually coming to fruition, you can't change the outcome at all, due to course-correcting.
In Desmond's 'vision' he didn't see Penny in the parachute; he just assumed it would be her.
I can't agree with this part, I'm not big on philosophy, but in my mind - the identity of the person in the tree depended on the path of events. If Charlie got hit with the arrow, it would have been Penny. Des changed things, it turned out to be Naomi. Like there are 2 possible worlds and the one that becomes reality depends on the course you choose. But that's just my opinion.
Hmm.
I tend to believe that to change the future, your actions have to directly impact the future.
After that helicopter left the ship (which wasn't Penny's to begin with, but at the time, we believed it was) there's no action on the island that could change who boarded that helicopter.
Desmond could've killed Charlie as soon as he had the vision, heck, he could have walked around killing all of the losties, but that wouldn't change who was on the helicopter. Obviously, he would change the future, (like maybe Naomi would die because he couldn't find her), but he couldn't change the fact it was Naomi on the helicopter.
I completely understand the idea of two different universes running their courses, one where Naomi is on the helicopter and one where Penny is.
But how does Charlie being dead or not have anything to do with which woman is behind that mask? Naomi or Penny, depending on the universe, had already crashed on the island before Charlie's life was even in danger-his death may have delayed Desmond/Hurley/Jin from finding the masked woman, but I'm not sure I see how Charlie's death in the present would change who boarded a helicopter in the past.
(I love this kind of stuff :rolleyes4)
I admit I am not good at this stuff - hated my philosophy courses - but I do read a lot of Stephen King! I totally get what you are saying - but, if you imagine it without the constraints of the timeline that we view as rational, imagine 2 worlds - one where Penny jumps out, one where Naomi jumps out. They (the worlds) both exist, they are both hovering there with the girl in the tree, but only one will become reality, the other one will disappear. I'm not saying I buy into this, but this is one of those theories that stuck with me from class. SK does a lot of parallel world stuff too. Des sure believed very stongly that is was Penny in the tree. But, he saw that Charlie died by the arrow, and he changed this at the last minute. Everything else he tried to do exactly as in his vision. If he had gone around killing the Losties, he would not have had the people he needed to go with him in his vision.
Now, that aside, as someone else mentioned, I don't see Penny the socialite as the jumper/pilot. And we now know it wasn't even her boat. Maybe the two worlds involved Pen's boat/helicopter, and Naomi's boat/helicopter, and again, one vanished due to the course of events?
one more thing to add - in my mind, this is why it is a "Catch-22". For it to be Penny, Des has to let Charlie die when he knows he could save him. If he saves Charlie, he does't get Penny.
Ah, I think I'm seeing what you mean a bit better now.
Now I'm curious how it's not Penny's boat. We know from the end of season 2 that she was looking for Desmond (or the island?) and she found something. Is her dad spying on her, so that when/if she ever found Desmond he could get to desmond/the island first? I mean, Naomi did have a picture of Desmond and Penny and even said that Penny hired her (but she never met with Penny, meaning anyone could've hired her under Penny's name.)
I think making Naomi and Naomi's people bad guys is a good direction for the plot, but it seems almost like an unnecessary plot twist, it's going to be hard for the writer's to navigate through this. (Why would Penny's dad supply the team he hired under Penny's name with a picture of Desmond? Did he want Desmond to think it was his rescue so that he could be "disposed" of afterwards? And if Penny wasn't sending a boat, then why would Papa Widmore get in a rush to find Desmond? That's a lot of work to get rid of one man, even for an evil father figure.)
yeah that is bothering me too. If Naomi's people turn out to be separate from Penny, my guess is they were trying to find the island to exploit whatever powers it has. But why they would use the Des connection and have a picture doesn't really support this. And the fact that everyone on the flight was reported dead at the bottom of the ocean makes me buy into some kind of conspiracy theory. I'm not sure which one yet!
I agree with you both, Cranky and Catnap.
The thing that's bothering me (after I read your posts) is that Desmond wasn't on the plane, so what is the connection? Naomi's people weren't looking for the Losties. They were presumed dead by the world.
Desmond was LOST and crashed into the island never to be heard from for three years, so what the Hell is going on? Why now? (I mean, I get it-the purple haze) but it's still questionable.
Cranky's right. Even for an evil Father; that's a LOT to go through just to get to the guy that his daughter is in love with; unless Desmond is some kind of Sage that can change events, or has some other predestination that we don't know about yet; then I don't get it. Why bother?
I can't wait until Season 4!
Hi everyone - this is going to be a real challenge ! I had problems with it last time - I have enough trouble trying to work out the time zones between the U.S. and Australia ! Let alone Desmond and his travels ! See you later.
It is very interesting to watch this episode after watching S4. Desmond's [i]premonitions[/b] make a lot more sense, if that is possible. He was so sure that Naomi was Penny. Can anyone say denial, Desmond? I really hated that arrow and Charlie scene. Didn't like it the first time and liked it even less the 2nd time. :eek:
btw, how many languages does Naomi speak? ;)
I love the Desmond-centric episodes.
I see Desmond as troubled and complicated. Although Desmond is quite capable of moments of pure bravery and morality; everything he does is overshadowed by extreme fear of actually being a coward.
He entered the race to prove that Penny's father was, well...an ass; but it's in his entering the race that he only accomplishes running away from Penny: the girl who truly loves him, faulty as he may seem to the outside observer. (I personally love him) Now, regrettably; that's all Desmond wants. Running away from something is running toward something else.
Desmond believes that Penny is coming to the island, and yet he can't bring himself to let the prophecy of Charlie's death come to pass. Now Desmond has other issues to contend with. When he saved Charlie, did he change who was in the parachute?
There are so many variables here; any alteration in the visions could possibly change the way the future unfolds, but due to 'course-correcting' the end result is always the same. You can only change the way in which the inevitable happens. "No matter what you do, you can't change it."
The quality I really like about Desmond is that he is constantly searching for his higher calling and striving to figure out what his purpose in life is. Desmond feels trapped by his FATE, but I think somehow realizes that the island is part of his destiny and is trying to come to terms with it, redeem himself, and (hopefully) end up reunited with Penny.
I had to quote my old post because I still basically feel the same way.
AChristianShephard
09-09-08, 02:51 AM
This episode kinda feels like the start to a 4 part finale.
It also feels like it is attatched to season 4, what with niomi and her helicopter.
It's also the first time we see outsiders, people that were not already on the island when 815 went down.
For some reason i'd remembered seeing Desmonds Flash Foward of Claire & Aaron getting on the helicopter, which was never in the show ha, weird.
Is it a FF? And why the correction?
OMG that Matrix woman is in the photo on the desk, never seen that before.
It's really nice when they are telling ghost stories round the fire and Jin scares Hurley.
The part where Des & Penny 1st meet is electric and filled with chemestry, quite a feat to pull off and one of the reasons their thread is so enjoyable, those 2 must really fancy each other in real life. Penny has one of the most beautifull English accents you'll ever hear.
I don't know what to say of this episode, i have now gotton so into this rewatch that i just wanna give each watch a 10/10 and express how wonderfull the program is, ive lost focus haha.
How long has Desmond had this gift/curse ? This "future crap" ! I keep thinking that he genuinely sees the future, but he is out of synch. He hasn't yet figured out how to read what he sees. He was fixated on Penny's boat, and when Naomi arrived on the crashed heli, his desire to see Penny was so strong that he actually believed that this was who he was going to see.
Des seeing Claire and Aaron getting onto a helicopter was also a mental glitch. He was fond of Claire and this was what he wanted to see. What he expected to see. He knew that Charlie was going to die, so there was no reason for Charlie to be in that vision. So when he "saw" Kate and Aaron, he saw what he thought he should be seeing, i.e. Claire and Aaron.
What also struck me was that when Des asked Jack for his first aid kit, Jack briefly asked if he could help, but was surprisingly indifferent to the whole thing. A good Doctor would never ignore the slightest thing, and to just hand over the kit without hesitation is kind of irresponsible. Or non-caring. Apart from the fact that Desmond didn't really want him butting in anyway !
The Sawyer and Kate sex debacle really P'ed me off ! She is starting to act like a trollop ! And how did they manage to have sex in those constricted surroundings with her wearing those skin tights jeans, and they didn't appear to shed any clothing. Not so hard for a guy but pretty well impossible for a female !
Did anyone see the title of the book Sawyer was reading before Kate jumped him ? I couldn't make it out - nearly broke my neck trying !
ACS - I love Penny's accent too ! Its not all "bloody hunting horns" blah-blah-blah !!! But just really nice ! Dare I say sexy .... ! :)
I loved the Desmond, Hurley, Charlie and Jin scenes. Hurley and Desmond having a heart-to-heart was great.
AChristianShephard
09-11-08, 08:22 PM
I thought Desmond only recieved his 'gift' after the hatch explosion? Or did i read that myself? When he mentioned Lockes speech about going to rescue the cage-ies?
I think Desmond said whilst under questioning at some point that his visions wernt always 100% accurate.
Yeah Kate is acting desperate, totally agree with that.
Didn't Desmond tell Jack that it was just a precaution when he asked about the first aid kit?
Didn't Desmond tell Jack that it was just a precaution when he asked about the first aid kit?
Yes, ACS, I may have misjudged Jack on that one ! Although Jack tended to be a bit off hand with some of the more minor afflictions ! What about the poor guy with the rash back in S1 !
LOST Hiatus Rewatch:
Week 22
Weds., October 21st-October 27th, 2009
S3:E17: Catch-22
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World Walker
10-26-09, 03:37 AM
This episode introduces us to major plot elements from Season Four. Sometimes it can be hard to remember that Naomi, the satellite phone, and the freighter originated in Season Three. Even though this is, in my opinion, the weakest Desmond-centric episode (although I loved how Penny and Des met), it’s still a very strong episode all the same. So, here we go!
Very cool first shot of Desmond chopping the vegetation out of the way with his machete. I’m a musician and I can’t help but cringe watching the rain soak into that guitar on Charlie’s back. Of course, that’s nothing compared to the arrow that’ll be lodged in it later, but still! Where was his case? :mad:
Hurley and Charlie were shamelessly geeking out with their Superman Vs. The Flash talk. :rolleyez:
The first time I saw this episode I thought, No way, they’re not just gonna kill Charlie like that…come on! And then we realize that the first scene was just another one of Desmond’s flashes. This is the first time to date that we get to see what Desmond sees during a precognitive spell. What his vision reminds me of is some of the dreams Locke and Eko have had in the past. The more I think about it, the more it seems to me that Desmond is being used as a course corrector by something (Jacob or MiB potentially) because of his unique capacity for change. After all, think about how different things would be if Charlie didn’t live long enough to make it to The Looking Glass. Either the Island wants Charlie dead to protect itself and something is working against that to ensure Charlie sets post-Season Three events into motion, or some force is trying to kill Charlie and the Island is providing the visions so Desmond can make sure Charlie does what he needs to do. Either way, Desmond’s seemingly being moved like a piece on the board to ensure Charlie plays his critical role later.
Hurley to Desmond: “Did you eat those mushrooms Jack warned us about?” :clap:
Priest to Desmond: “And now you’re one of us.” – Although I don’t think this quote holds any real significance, I thought it interesting how the title of our last episode popped up in this sentence. Oftentimes, when somebody says one of us in this show, they’re referring to an inclusive community such as the Losties or the Others. Taking the priest’s possible affiliation (the picture with Hawking on his desk) with the Others into account, Desmond may have been marked (due to future knowledge) by the Others as their way to course correct events on the Island. This may be a stretch, but consider the rather coincidental way Desmond and Penny meet. It’s almost as if that was set up purposefully so all the pieces would fall in place. :hmm:
TPTB made a nice shout out (“twisted my ankle”) to Jack and Desmond’s first meeting way back in Man of Science, Man of Faith.
Desmond’s desire to make sure the vision happens exactly as he saw it has given him quite the case of tunnel vision. How does bringing Jin or letting Charlie get an arrow through his throat decrease the chances of a woman (who doesn’t even turn out to be Penny) parachuting onto the Island? Desmond’s closer to finding Penny than he’s ever been before (he went back in time recently and in less than a month he’ll be reunited with her off the Island) so his thinking isn’t exactly straight.
Desmond’s willingness to sacrifice Charlie mirrors the gunslinger’s ruthless mindset in Steven King’s The Dark Tower series. Unlike the gunslinger’s choice in the first book, Desmond will relent and change his mind by the end of the episode.
Sawyer’s ready for some action with Kate who blows him off in favor of flirting with a seemingly uninterested Jack who begins to flirt with Juliet which causes Kate to slingshot back to Sawyer. Anyone else feeling a bit dizzy? :rolleyez:
Again, Kate displays a tendency to be turned on during states of intense emotional despair. We’ll see this again in Season Five when she gives Aaron to Claire’s mom and ends up in Jack’s apartment.
The party around the campfire was awesome. I loved how Jin was telling them a story in Korean with that light in his face. Hurley jumping at the end was great! :thumbs_up
After admitting his hopes that Penny had spent the last three years looking for him, Desmond must have felt like a million bucks after his hopes were confirmed by that phone call on the freighter in The Constant.
That helicopter sure didn’t last very long. I suppose it suffered the same instrument failures as Frank’s chopper did, but Naomi probably wasn’t a good enough pilot to bring it down safely. That’s what she gets for not following Frank’s advice!
Sawyer: “You two arguin’ over who’s your favorite Other?” :rotfl:
Sawyer’s ping pong skills have really improved since he lost the match with Hurley earlier in the season. Methinks he has something to prove.
We have another instance of the curiously multiplied photograph of Penny and Desmond. When it was taken, the couple only seemed to get one picture from the photographer. We know Penny has one in her apartment and Desmond had one in the hatch. This latest instance however, is easier to explain. Looking carefully, you can tell that the one Naomi was carrying is a photocopy. Did Charles Widmore take the original picture from his daughter and copy it? That seems like the only logical explanation for it to be with Naomi’s belongings.
That was a striking shot of the group moving into the jungle with those massive storm clouds advancing over them.
Charlie looked less than pleased at Desmond’s eleventh hour save. Can we blame him?
The picture of the head monk with Hawking was on his desk when Desmond turned in his monk’s robes. Boy, was that thing badly photo-shopped or what? :eyebrow:
That scene where Penny and Desmond meet was perfect. The chemistry between those actors is just so believable. Des: “Did I say I was coming to Carlyle with you?” Penny: “Not yet…” The artful way they intersperse the dialogue with scenes from the monastery and scenes surrounding the parachutist coupled with the overarching music is just beautiful. :thumbs_up
They tease us with all the Des and Penny interactions and then they reveal that the parachutist wasn’t Penny at all! Those sneaky TPTB!
Not only another excellent episode, but a very important episode. Like I stated above, we have plot elements introduced to us that play a very large part in Season Four. This was a very effective set-up with plot elements that will lead all the way to the finale and beyond. :Cheers:
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