Ummmmm

[Warcat28]

Don't know if this has been discussed elseware but, How come the other survivors don't remember Locke getting on the plane in a wheel chair and now suddenly being able to walk?

[tigers2424]

That's very easy to answer. Hanicapped people are always, I mean always boarded first. Wheel chairs are always kept in the cargo hold. So by the time the rest of the passengers are boarded, no one would be to the wiser if he was a cripple or not.


Mark

[Warcat28]

Yes, but they're all together in the boarding area.

[dsera]

I would say it's not illogical to think someone might have seen him prior to being boarded. I've been on plenty of flights that I whitnessed the pre boarding. I think they either didn't see him or maybe they saw someone being wheeled on but given the drama around them, haven't stopped to think any more about it. It's not like Locke has given a single clue to this. I think it's entirely possible that if the truth gets out that someone will say "oh yeah, now that I think about it........."

[Lothiriel of Rohan]

Someone also mentioned the possibility that Locke was not crippled prior to the plane taking off and the wheelchair either belonged to someone else or was part of the permanent supplies the plane normally carried in case someone needed it. That would explain how Locke was able to walk after the crash. Perhaps his sense of wonder at seeing his feet when he came to after the plane crash was really a memory when he recalled there was a time he could not walk.. Just a theory mind you...:)

[tigers2424]

True, but also they asign an airport wheel chair to handicapped people, because they have to check their wheel chair when they arrive, and I have seen the airport wheelchairs and they realy don't look like a wheel chair as you and I would know one. So it goes to the other fact you brought up that because of this, maybe nobody realy noticed it.

[Baron X]

Apparently everybody slept in the boarding area. Considering check in for an International flight is about 90 minutes before flight time. NONE of our survivors noticed a handcuffed and shackled Kate boarding the plane or recognize Locke as the man in the wheel chair from the boarding area.

[railwaymadness]

I would expect a prisoner to board separately, probably through a different entrance onto the ramp that leads from the airport to the plane. Letting a whole plane full of people know that there's a criminal in custody on board probably wouldn't be conducive to a comfortable flight -- particularly when it's such a long one.

I don't usually notice a lot about the other people in the boarding area, particularly those who get on during pre-boarding. That's when I run to the bathroom one last time. :)

[Master Xander]

I seriously doubt people pay THAT close attention to the other passengers on the plane. I certainly don't.

[Baron X]

I bet you will start now.;)

[Master Xander]

Probably. Of course, I'm already scared of flying, so Lost doesn't help me there, so I probably still wouldn't pay much attention. :rollin

[Metauniverse]

Locke always says; "Don't tell me what I cant do"

Maybe all the passengers who saw Lock disabled are no longer alive.

There is no one to tell he what he cannot do?

Maybe Locke's condition is mental rather than physical.


-Metauniverse

[azteclady]

Whether his condition was psychological or physical, Locke-before-the-crash seemed to be the kind of guy very few people noticed.

Not loud, not calling attention to himself all the time, rarely demanding (I got the impression that his outburst when the Walkabout guy wouldn't let him get on the plane was a very rare occurrence indeed - not because he wouldn't get angry, but because he wouldn't show it or verbalize it).

A little man, if you will.

It would have probably been easy for the other survivors, whom all had their own reasons for flying and their own phobias, addictions, etc. to occupy them, not to have noticed a nondescript guy being wheeled in before them.

As for noticing "a handcuffed and shackled Kate boarding the plane" (quoting Baron X above), I don't think there's been any suggestion of shackles, only handcuffs. And the handcuffs could probably be covered by Kate by draping a jacket or sweater or some such being draped over her hands - holding it, if you will. That is, if she and the bounty hunter (aka Shrapnel Guy) boarded at the same time and through the same door than the rest of the passengers.

Beto

[harvey]

Kate had to be shackled somehow. Remember how she couldn't extend her hands up to get a sip of her drink? Her handcuffs were obviously attached to something...you'd have to think her ankle shackles. However---we never saw her release those--only the handcuffs prior to the crash. :rolleyes

[Iphigenia W]

**I seriously doubt people pay THAT close attention to the other passengers on the plane. I certainly don't.**

You are right about that Xander, most people don't pay a lot of attention to things, that's why eye witness testimony is so faulty, people just don't pay attention. And it's a sad fact that the handicapped are especially invisible to most people, they avoid looking at them and sometimes even pretend they aren't there.

[Iphigenia W]

*Kate had to be shackled somehow. Remember how she couldn't extend her hands up to get a sip of her drink? Her handcuffs were obviously attached to something...you'd have to think her ankle shackles. However---we never saw her release those--only the handcuffs prior to the crash.*

Having worked in corrections I can guess that what she had on was a waist chain, it attaches to handcuffs and keeps the arms from moving too far. When the handcuffs are unlocked it's an easy matter to just slip off the waist chain. Since she had to walk onto the plane and they don't want to draw attention to in custody prisoners it is doubtful if she had on ankle shackles or a wrist and ankle attached set.