My take on Locke and where he's going.

[Locke and Boone Rule]

As we all know, some people hold the opinion that Locke isn't exactly on the side of good, and his strange story and subsequent smile at Sawyer seem to support that (to some). Here's what I think about that instance and his future as a character.

Locke smiles because he knows exactly what Sawyer is thinking and knows that he hit the nail on the head with his story.

Does Locke help people to gain their allegiance or is he just a nice guy? Probably the former, but that doesn't make him evil.

I don't know that I've even seen a more interesting character in a TV show before. Whatever he is, I don't think he'll end up being a bad guy at all. They played that creepy music and made him seem shady at the beginning because he was the big mystery for awhile. Now that we have more of a background on him, he seems more wise than disturbing and more capable than scary.

I think that Locke is going to bring the others to a point where they have to make a choice of whose side they want to be on, his or Jack's, but it won't be for some reason like fighting each other. It will be for something that makes sense but that many of the survivors won't approve of. Ultimately, I think this will lead to the character death (Jack I'm betting) and Locke may see the error of his ways and try to compromise. But that's all wild speculation.

Anyway, all I know is that if I was stranded out there with them, I would gladly take up the Boone Lackey position.

[Australopithecus]

There is no way that Jack will die. Granted, we have 12 main characters, but Jack is really the center of them all. Other characters may die off, but Jack will be there until the end, for sure.

[azteclady]

Considering the writers and producers had slated Jack to die by the end of the pilot episode, I am not so sure of this myself.


Beto
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[Hodgepodge]

azteclady says:
Considering the writers and producers had slated Jack to die by the end of the pilot episode, I am not so sure of this myself.
You know, I've always took this statement as a truism, but I think TPTB changed their minds once Matthew Fox joined the cast. Other than Terry O'Quinn, Matthew Fox is the only known star, and gets first-billing.

[azteclady]

Hodgepodge, you are going to get heat from the domfanatics for this statement!

I am aware that the writers changed their minds upon casting Matthew Fox as Jack, and I don't want him to die, but I'm not betting on any one character to live or die. Right now, we've beem promised main cast death for a while and all we've gotten is 'close but no cigar' so I'm no longer holding my breath. It'll be whoever, whenever.

If indeed anyone actually dies this season...

and if that someone doesn't come back next season...



Beto
see above

[Hodgepodge]

azteclady rightfully says:Hodgepodge, you are going to get heat from the domfanatics for this statement!...
I know no ones going to believe me, but I actually forgot about Dom. No, I actually did!

...Right now, we've beem promised main cast death for a while and all we've gotten is 'close but no cigar' so I'm no longer holding my breath. It'll be whoever, whenever.

If indeed anyone actually dies this season...

and if that someone doesn't come back next season...
I know what you mean. I remember thinking awhile back that we've already had two deaths. Charlie, in All the Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues, and Shannon, in Hearts and Minds. And, although they didn't stay dead, I thought maybe that particular quota was paid. Now, I've heard TPTB have reiterated the statement about one of the main character dying by the end of the season. So, I'm thinking it's going to happen. And, as I've said in another thread, whoever it is this time I hope they stay dead!

[Locke and Boone Rule]

The FACTS about the soon-to-be-dead.

(SPOILERS)



















- Male
- Has been 'swooned over'
- Will be dead and not be coming back to life in any way
- Will not be Charlie
- Will be dead before the end of the season
















END OF SPOILER

Still think it's gonna be Jack. They said at one point that they would be doing something in the Season Finale that they put off doing since the first episode...we all what that could be...

edited to add spoiler spaces for those (like me!) who are allergic to them

[CrazieBlueEyes]

This would be brilliant, indeed! Won't be Locke...the Lost would be, well, lost, without him.

I'm placing bets on Sawyer or Boone.

Or...if movie offers are flooding in, Sayid or Charlie.

[Bigbadbill]

I'm scared its going to be Locke, really I am. I was hoping for Jack and after this week Micheal row your boat away or die some place..... But I'm afraid that he'll die to pass on life or something bogus like that, Claire's baby will live etc.... Locke is one of those characters that leaves you wanting more and more...

I met a very charismatic man that traveled the world he spoke to a group of us at a table and he spoke quieter and quieter everyone at the table leaned in more and more to listen... Locke has me leaning in.... I just hope that I have a few more seasons...

[Conundrum]

i am a bit in the dark on this guy as episode 4 has only just come out down here, but after that episode, some little bells started going off in my head. from what anyone could have seen he was pictured as a die hard fan of all things military, anyone can teach them self how to survive and hunt. that was as far as my thoughts had taken me untill i came across the bio for some guy that played a part in predator 1. someone pointed out a quote that went something like this "anyone can pick up a gun and shoot bamby, but you are not a true hunter untill the target can shoot you back" (this guy is ex navy seal)it was the fact that this guy was in the navy seals made me think back to the convo that locke had with who i think was his boss (when they were playing that table top wargame) the boss says something like "i looked at your records and you never served in any armed force" whos to say locke didnt serve as a seal, them type of records, from what i know, cant be accessed by the general public. after all its one thing to pick up a gun and shoot a razor back, and its a completely hard-core thing to do going up against it with a 9 inch blade, im seriously thinking he has had some really intense training

[STACHERSMOM]

I vote that the one who dies is Claire's baby

[azteclady]

Conundrum, I know I'm late with this but: look at other threads around here that deal with Locke's possible military/armed forces/special operations background. Opinions are divided, participate in the discussions! ;)

STACHERSMOM, let's keep the thread on topic, shall we? There are at least three open threads on who's going to die? open at this time (I just flipped through most forums' back pages looking for links, so I know this to be true as I type). Please contribute your Claire vote/idea there!


Beto
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[LostInWilderness]

I think Locke is going to die. I posted elsewhere that I think he's an aboriginal Spirit Guide, and that to get what he needs, he's assisting the Lostaways to get what they need. Once he helps everyone find the path they need, he's going away. Otherwise, it's just too easy for the Lostaways to allow Locke to show them their own paths.

I also think that Locke making and presenting Claire with the crib links Locke and Claire's baby. I bet Locke dies, and his death is related to Claire's baby's birth. I also bet that the spiritual aspect of Locke will pass to Claire's baby in some way.

[Bigbadbill]

Read the post above this.... Read it again.

Lostinwilderness hits it right on the head.

[c0ldfish]

this is my take on Locke. some good points, some not so good points. to each his own, you may disagree and i would be delighted to hear your opinion too. i could be wrong so feel free to comment.

good points
1. hunter - gets boars for the survivors
2. mediator - resolved conflicts btw Jin & Michael about burned raft
3. he gives ppl "life lessons" eg. helped Charlie off the junk
4. he's respectful to Michael about Walt
5. he helped Michael save Walt from the polar bear
6. he taught Shannon to start a new life (be with Sayid) and not let Boone get on her nerves.

there may be more that i could not think of at the moment.


not so good points
1. he gave Boone the hallucination that Shannon died and it made him realize that he shouldn't care about Shannon anymore. this is unsettling for me because Boone has turned into his attack dog (like what Michael mentioned in the struggle with Boone) and Boone has also neglected Shannon, no longer takes care of her. it's like, he purposedly broke the step-siblings apart. ever since that episode, Boone has been wearing dark colors, looking a lil bit evil. it seems as though he's possessed by some demon or something.

2. when Claire was kidnapped, he mentioned it's his fault that he did not notice anything strange about Ethan. however, he was the one who brought Ethan into the scene after hunting at night. it seems as tho they had something going on that we don't know about. maybe Ethan has already "recruited" him or something like that. also, when they tracked the trail after Ethan kidnapped Claire and Charlie, he insisted that they stick together and follow the trail he found instead of the "clue letter on Charlie's finger" that Jack found on a broken branch. it seems suspiciously weird that he insists to go the other way. and then Jack was on the right path instead.

3. he's mysterious. there is no reasoning given as to why he does not let Boone tell others about the hatch. what's in for him? why not tell Sayid and Jack? why does he keep the hatch to himself and Boone? and in Walk About, he supposedly had bumped into this huge thingy that appeared out of a tree looking down at him, and him looking back up. can boars climb trees? what he really saw is still a mystery.

4. he likes the island. it's beneficial to him because he mentioned to Jack he believes that there's magic in the island (for his case, it healed his legs). i gather these are clues that he wants to stay. he also mentioned to Walt after asking why Walt burned the raft that he "likes it there too". when Sayid asked him where he was (regarding who knocked him out when he was trying to trace the signal), he mentioned maybe it's Sawyer and ever purported that Sawyer used a ciggy for a timed fuse. he did explain "it's probably someone who's reaping benefits from this island where he could not if he had not been here". sounds like he's talking about himself. *

these are just my opinion. i would love to see more of him. he's a great character to have and losing him would kill a lot of stories.

* - about the guy who knocked Sayid out, it could point to Ethan tho he has not appeared. or has he? maybe one of Ethan's buddies if there are any. they could be sabotaging to prevent Sayid from locating their hideout which has a transmitter of some sort or radio tower. u get my drift.

[LostInWilderness]

I don't think Locke's going to die now. It looks to me like the lostaways will split behind Locke and Jack, and that conflict will be the major story line next season.

[Brian]

I don't necessarily think that Jack is the center of the 14, now 13, main character set. I would actually put Locke in that position. Locke is the key to the show/story. Everyone else is just a participant (i.e. along for the ride.)

[LostIslandJedi]

I'm leaning towards Luethen's comment...but I will say that the island as we know it is between Jack and Locke's leadership right now...or at least heading that way.

[Brian]

LostIslandJedi,

Given your nick, you can appreciate this. The island is the master and the rules are that you can only have one apprentice (if you subscribe to the "dark side/evil" theory). Locke would be the padwan (sp?) in this case (cheesy reference, sue me!). Jack, well, I don't think even Jack knows what Jack wants. He's so scattered it's amazing. That said, all you Locke naysayers, Locke is also scattered. The difference is how they channel that confusion. Locke channels it pretty well, for the most part. Jack, channel? Don't even get me started. :) I mean, I know Jack wants to, intends to, and feels the need to do well, he just doesn't "channel" well. After Boone died, rather than running off into the jungle saying "Locke killed Boone", he should have sat back and thought about what he was about to do and why he was doing it. Jack is "carpe diem", and Locke is "age quod agis." They both care, it's a matter of degree. That's not meant to take anything away from either of them. We all approach obstacles in different ways and Jack/Locke portray that wonderfully.

Oh, given their first names, we clearly have the set-up to "J" camp 1 and "J" camp 2. Maybe it'll happen, maybe not. If it does, I'd put Sayid into Locke's camp.

Everyone seems to want Jack to be the "leader" so to speak. Others want it to be Locke. JMHO, but they're all wrong. Jack/Locke aren't being set up to be leaders, they're being set up to be pawns in a game they can't comprehend yet.