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jaklynrose
02-25-05, 04:10 AM
Any thoughts why Locke told all the survivors that they were attacked by the Others, when he knew that Walt had burned the raft? Was it just a ploy to get them to all stop blaming someone amongst them? Give them all a common enemy so they will band together and get along?

iceangel13
02-25-05, 06:12 AM
He probably said that so they would stop beating each other up. Also, what kind of guy says "It was the little kid!" I mean honestly, way to get everyone to think your a horrible person, lol. But really, he was probably protecting Walt, while at the same time taking the blame off of anyone else who really didn't do it, you know what I'm saying?

azteclady
02-25-05, 11:47 AM
I agree with iceangel... to a point.

I also think that Locke took the opportunity to call attention to the fact that they are indeed not alone in the island, and to garner some support. Remember how he told Boone that they would need Sayid to be on their side? By making everyone (but Walt) believe that the Others burned Michael's raft, he's basically making it clear that there are sides to be taken, and that his is the one that would allow the group to survive.


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Hodgepodge
02-25-05, 07:26 PM
jaklynrose says:
...Give them all a common enemy so they will band together and get along?
I´ve said long ago, there´s going to be a war on the island. This maybe why our survivors were brought to our little paradise. Locke, wants to get his troupe's ready and together, to fight in this war.



iceangel13 says:
...But really, he was probably protecting Walt, while at the same time taking the blame off of anyone else who really didn't do it, you know what I'm saying?
Locke sees Walt´s potential, and he definitely wants to cultivate it.



azteclady says:
I also think that Locke took the opportunity to call attention to the fact that they are indeed not alone in the island, and to garner some support. Remember how he told Boone that they would need Sayid to be on their side? By making everyone (but Walt) believe that the Others burned Michael's raft, he's basically making it clear that there are sides to be taken, and that his is the one that would allow the group to survive.
And, as we see in next weeks previews, it apparently got them off their asses and out looking for the "Others".

klumsyboy
03-12-05, 11:08 PM
um i think locke can read minds or is psychic ie he know of whatsherface's bday and of everyone elses problems before they even get a chance to tell anyone, so following the discussion before this post....

and we saw walt has some demonic supernatural power when the thing flew in the window so locke problably wants to control him like the m dude controlls the evil xmen :)

azteclady
03-13-05, 03:36 AM
Welcome, klumsyboy!

I hope you enjoy the community!

Now, to your post: I didn't see the scene between Claire and Locke the same way you did. The way I saw it, Locke was making the crib because there's a baby about to pop and such a piece of furniture is going to be needed. From what I could see, Locke didn't know it was Claire's birthday (nor did he wonder about it) until Claire herself mentioned it.

In the same vein, I don't see that Walt has any sort of special or supernatural powers - but if you want to discuss that particular line of thought, there are a few threads going on about that in both General Discussions and in Theories and Speculations.


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BuffyGroupie
03-16-05, 02:44 PM
I agree that he probably was just trying to get them to stop fighting amongst themselves. He never actually says that someone else did it, he just reminds them that they aren't alone so its more likely that someone outside of their community burned the raft. For a brief moment, I almost thought he might have done it, cause he seems like the least likely to want to leave the island.

Also, Locke never had to tell Walt that he knew it was Walt that burned the raft. I think that was probably Locke's way of making Walt know that he can trust him. Which could be a good thing or a bad thing, depending.

LostInWilderness
03-26-05, 07:45 AM
Locke did exactly what was necessary in his role as Spirit Guide. Reminding the lostaways that they have a common enemy when he did accomplished several things:

1. He stopped the infighting among the lostaways.
2. He promoted cooperation and productivity among the lostaways.
3. It gave Locke an opportunity to guide Walt despite Michael's attitude.
4. He didn't intervene until Sun came clean about her mastery of English - helping both Sun and Jin.

It was a win, win, win, win for the Spirit Guide and the lostaways.

ThatHippieKid
03-26-05, 02:06 PM
For a brief moment, I almost thought he might have done it, cause he seems like the least likely to want to leave the island.

I thought that at one point too! I knew Jin hadn't done it... it was too obvious and it didn't seem like something Jin would do... like Locke said "Who would block an attempt to get home?". An emotional 10 year old, thats who. Heh.

Anyway. Locke had me very suspiscious in this ep, but I was impressed at the last scene between Locke and Walt.

EGlVM
04-03-05, 12:01 AM
Well, the "others" did do all those things. And plus, do you think his dad and everyone else would let Walt down gently because he's a kid? People would flip! Then Walt would be a target.

Akishi
04-04-05, 01:47 AM
I think Locke is a great character. I think he will never tell in front of everyone that he knew Walt has burned his dad's the raft neither blame or complain each and everyone of the survivor. I mean who's going to tell that anyway and if he did tell what is really happened nobody is going to believe that.

He's more individual, independant, I don't think he likes to hang out with many survivors in the same.
Sure, he likes to help others to get belong with each other, to find themselves an answer. Don't forget that he has saved once Jack's and Walt's life.

Brian
04-22-05, 12:08 AM
azteclady,

You bring up some very good points. I'll only add that I think Locke mentioned the Others to provide a cover for Walt. Someone (read: Michael) may have begun to speculate. By mentioning the Others, Locke takes the doubt out of everyone's mind, especially Michael. Locke and Michael aren't exactly on each others Christmas card list and by helping Walt, Locke is employing the oldest tactic in history. That is, gain the support of the children and the adults/parents will follow. It's the norm in Top40 radio so why wouldn't it work on the island?