JackIsNoHero
05-25-09, 01:13 PM
According to Darlton Sawyer/Juliet were over the instant Kate came back to the island. So, basically, before they revealed Sawyer/Juliet as lovers, they considered it was over, as Kate came back before the great reveal.
Sawyer/Juliet consisted of one lukewarm kiss, one spooning scene with her naked and him clothed and a few "I loves yous" tossed in and that's the sum total.
This quad Darlton have been jonesing for since season two wasn't even really played up. Jack didn't really care Juliet was with Sawyer. Kate didn't care Juliet was with Sawyer. Juliet didn't care Jack and Kate had been engaged. Sawyer urged Jack to make a play for Kate instead of blowing up the island. So it was much ado about nothing.
So what was it all for? I think it was to position Sawyer so he and Claire will be in the same place so they'll finally get together in season 6.
In the finale the message was clear, Sawyer can move beyond Kate while Jack can't. Sawyer was going to leave the island with Juliet to start a new life with her, leaving behind Kate, while Jack wanted to blow up everyone so he could reset his life so he wouldn't never meet Kate, because he can't get past her.
The Jacob visits were interesting, too, as the Jack/Kate one was similar. Kate wanted a lunch box and stole it, got caught and Jacob ended up buying it for her. Jack wanted a candy bar, paid money for it but the vending machine stole Jack's money and wouldn't give him the candy bar, so Jacob paid for it and gave Jack his candy bar. [Some method of theft, being kept from what they want and Jacob ultimately paying for what they both wanted.] And both Jacob visits had a season one connection: Jack's Jacob visit was the story he told Kate when they first met, and the lunch box was what she and Tom used to bury their time capsule in.
Ultimately, Jack's Jacob visit had a connection to Kate, while Sawyer's Jacob visit had a season one connection to Claire. When Claire was going to sign the adoption papers her pen wouldn't work, and when Sawyer was trying to write his Cooper let his pen wouldn't work.
In season 6 Sawyer will find Claire after losing Juliet, after losing Claire in season four. Sun will give Claire Charlie's drive shaft ring which will cause her to start grieving Charlie while Sawyer is grieving Juliet. Charlie and Juliet sacrificed themselves for Claire and Sawyer and died. Claire and Sawyer loved them, but didn't love them enough. Claire and Sawyer both have a child off-island that they'll probably never see again and who has no memory of them even if they did see them. Both characters will be in the same place in their lives when they meet again.
On the surface, Kate and Sawyer seemed to be just alike, but over time Darlton showed that underneath Jack and Kate are more alike. They both have daddy issues. They're both selfish. They're both capable of committing cold-blooded murder. Neither accepts blame or feels any guilt for the things they do.
Starting way back in season one, Darlton have been throwing Sawyer/Claire stuff in:
In the fourth episode, when Claire was trying to have a memorial for the dead, Sawyer gave her some personal papers he'd looted to help her. It was the first unselfish thing he did on the island without having someone motivate him to do it.
When Claire was missing and Kate brought Claire's stuff down to the beach, Sawyer went through them and took her diary, but didn't read it. Then he taunted Charlie pretending he'd read in Claire's diary that she claimed she didn't even like Charlie and wished he'd leave her alone.
Of course, there was that scene when Sawyer claimed pregnant Claire liked him.
Then you had Aaron being soothed only by the sound of Sawyer's voice.
In season three, Hurley conned Sawyer into being nice to Claire and when he learned he was conned, he looked over at Claire [on his own, with no urging from Hurley] and brought her a plate of food and she let him hold Aaron.
In season four, there was that somewhat flirty moment in Eggtown between Sawyer/Claire on the porch while Kate was acting the cold and bitchy. And in the SOTTC they had Sawyer risk his life saving Claire.
So I do think the ultimate game plan was Jack ending up with Kate and Sawyer ending up with Claire. Darlton have said Sawyer is their Han Solo and Matthew Fox has said Jack is Luke Skywalker and in Star Wars Han Solo ends up with Luke Skywalker's sister. This may be why in season three they decided to make Claire Jack's sister. [Season three was the season they'd already planned to kill off Charlie in.]
I think Juliet was the transitional or rebound relationship you have before you find the real thing. Sawyer was still in love with Kate [as shown by him looking at her when Rose/Benard talked about the most important thing is being with who you love], but he was able to also love someone else. They've shown Sawyer can move beyond Kate but Jack can't.
I think whatever residual feelings Sawyer has for Kate will be killed by Juliet's death. Kate wanted Sawyer to go back to the island to stop Jack, but a few words from Jack and Kate flips sides and is all for Jack's plan, after she dragged Sawyer and Juliet back to stop him. Not to mention feeling guilty because he looked at Kate instead of Juliet during Bernard/Rose's speech.
Anyway, that's my prediction. No spoilers, just going by what I've seen written.
Sawyer/Juliet consisted of one lukewarm kiss, one spooning scene with her naked and him clothed and a few "I loves yous" tossed in and that's the sum total.
This quad Darlton have been jonesing for since season two wasn't even really played up. Jack didn't really care Juliet was with Sawyer. Kate didn't care Juliet was with Sawyer. Juliet didn't care Jack and Kate had been engaged. Sawyer urged Jack to make a play for Kate instead of blowing up the island. So it was much ado about nothing.
So what was it all for? I think it was to position Sawyer so he and Claire will be in the same place so they'll finally get together in season 6.
In the finale the message was clear, Sawyer can move beyond Kate while Jack can't. Sawyer was going to leave the island with Juliet to start a new life with her, leaving behind Kate, while Jack wanted to blow up everyone so he could reset his life so he wouldn't never meet Kate, because he can't get past her.
The Jacob visits were interesting, too, as the Jack/Kate one was similar. Kate wanted a lunch box and stole it, got caught and Jacob ended up buying it for her. Jack wanted a candy bar, paid money for it but the vending machine stole Jack's money and wouldn't give him the candy bar, so Jacob paid for it and gave Jack his candy bar. [Some method of theft, being kept from what they want and Jacob ultimately paying for what they both wanted.] And both Jacob visits had a season one connection: Jack's Jacob visit was the story he told Kate when they first met, and the lunch box was what she and Tom used to bury their time capsule in.
Ultimately, Jack's Jacob visit had a connection to Kate, while Sawyer's Jacob visit had a season one connection to Claire. When Claire was going to sign the adoption papers her pen wouldn't work, and when Sawyer was trying to write his Cooper let his pen wouldn't work.
In season 6 Sawyer will find Claire after losing Juliet, after losing Claire in season four. Sun will give Claire Charlie's drive shaft ring which will cause her to start grieving Charlie while Sawyer is grieving Juliet. Charlie and Juliet sacrificed themselves for Claire and Sawyer and died. Claire and Sawyer loved them, but didn't love them enough. Claire and Sawyer both have a child off-island that they'll probably never see again and who has no memory of them even if they did see them. Both characters will be in the same place in their lives when they meet again.
On the surface, Kate and Sawyer seemed to be just alike, but over time Darlton showed that underneath Jack and Kate are more alike. They both have daddy issues. They're both selfish. They're both capable of committing cold-blooded murder. Neither accepts blame or feels any guilt for the things they do.
Starting way back in season one, Darlton have been throwing Sawyer/Claire stuff in:
In the fourth episode, when Claire was trying to have a memorial for the dead, Sawyer gave her some personal papers he'd looted to help her. It was the first unselfish thing he did on the island without having someone motivate him to do it.
When Claire was missing and Kate brought Claire's stuff down to the beach, Sawyer went through them and took her diary, but didn't read it. Then he taunted Charlie pretending he'd read in Claire's diary that she claimed she didn't even like Charlie and wished he'd leave her alone.
Of course, there was that scene when Sawyer claimed pregnant Claire liked him.
Then you had Aaron being soothed only by the sound of Sawyer's voice.
In season three, Hurley conned Sawyer into being nice to Claire and when he learned he was conned, he looked over at Claire [on his own, with no urging from Hurley] and brought her a plate of food and she let him hold Aaron.
In season four, there was that somewhat flirty moment in Eggtown between Sawyer/Claire on the porch while Kate was acting the cold and bitchy. And in the SOTTC they had Sawyer risk his life saving Claire.
So I do think the ultimate game plan was Jack ending up with Kate and Sawyer ending up with Claire. Darlton have said Sawyer is their Han Solo and Matthew Fox has said Jack is Luke Skywalker and in Star Wars Han Solo ends up with Luke Skywalker's sister. This may be why in season three they decided to make Claire Jack's sister. [Season three was the season they'd already planned to kill off Charlie in.]
I think Juliet was the transitional or rebound relationship you have before you find the real thing. Sawyer was still in love with Kate [as shown by him looking at her when Rose/Benard talked about the most important thing is being with who you love], but he was able to also love someone else. They've shown Sawyer can move beyond Kate but Jack can't.
I think whatever residual feelings Sawyer has for Kate will be killed by Juliet's death. Kate wanted Sawyer to go back to the island to stop Jack, but a few words from Jack and Kate flips sides and is all for Jack's plan, after she dragged Sawyer and Juliet back to stop him. Not to mention feeling guilty because he looked at Kate instead of Juliet during Bernard/Rose's speech.
Anyway, that's my prediction. No spoilers, just going by what I've seen written.