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http://i49.tinypic.com/2quoq9t.jpgOct. 14 (Bloomberg) -- Dave Checketts, owner of hockey’s St. Louis Blues and head of a group bidding to purchase the National Football League’s St. Louis Rams, will drop talk show host Rush Limbaugh as a minority partner, ESPN reported, citing three unidentified NFL sources.
Checketts must remove the controversial radio host in order to get approval of NFL owners, ESPN said. Winning bids must receive approval from at least 24 of the 32 owners. It’s not clear when Limbaugh will be dropped from the group, though some familiar with the situation said it may be next week, ESPN said.
“I’m not even thinking of exiting,” Limbaugh said on his program, according to a transcript provided to ESPN. “I’m not even thinking of caving. I am not a caver.”
In 2003, Limbaugh was forced to resign from ESPN after saying “the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well” in reference to the Eagles’ Donovan McNabb. At the NFL owners meeting this week in Boston, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell addressed Limbaugh’s possible involvement in the league, and said “divisive comments are not what the NFL is all about.”
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sgtdraino
10-14-09, 10:32 PM
Agree with him or disagree with him, it sounds like a man being persecuted for his beliefs to me.
Agree with him or disagree with him, it sounds like a man being persecuted for his beliefs to me.
....or his inflammatory remarks designed to build his listener base.
....or his history of illegal drug use.
sgtdraino
10-15-09, 01:12 AM
....or his inflammatory remarks designed to build his listener base.
....or his history of illegal drug use.
Big woop. Sounds like I want to go buy a house in a certain neighborhood, but the other homeowners decide they don't like me, so they vote to prevent me from buying the house I want even though they don't own it, and aren't the ones selling it. I don't throw the label around too much, but that strikes me as unamerican.
But if you buy ahouse in a neighborhood that has an assumed public trust, and is exempt from certain laws regulating anti-trust, then you might be held to a higher level of scrutiny. The comparison is not worthy.
I do agree that too much was made of this, he was going to be a minority owner/investor.
I will not shed one tear for Limbaugh.
Hey... ya know... I hate Rush just as much as the next guy.
But...
I am about to defend his comments in '03.
After he said what he said... he was called a racist A-hole and all that good stuff.
What most people failed to understand was... he was not trying to be racist and take a shot at McNabb.
He was attempting to take a shot at the media and how they overhype things they shouldn't be. He said McNabb was overrated by the media because he was black and the media wanted a black QB to succeed. And I kinda understand that, whether I agree with it or not.
The media overhypes stuff all the time. And they do it for the wrong reasons quite often.
I'll be the first person to tell ya that racism pisses me off like no other. I've told paying customers before to go :censored: themselves for talking racist in my presence.
Now... I do not dispute how much a jackass Rush is... but I do not really think he was wrong about the media.
Vitriol
10-15-09, 04:52 PM
The title of this thread was all nonsense to me. I thought that maybe Rush was trying out for the Rams.
sgtdraino
10-15-09, 05:03 PM
Looks like all the other comments he was accused of, aside from the McNabb one, are libel. Suddenly nobody can locate the actual audio for anything.
Lawsuits in the works!
....or his inflammatory remarks designed to build his listener base.
....or his history of illegal drug use.
... or his MNF comments. Oh. Tater covered that and gave Rush a pass. Nvm.
sgtdraino
10-15-09, 09:40 PM
Bottom line: Some people just don't like Rush, don't want to let him be part owner of a team, and that little club has the power to prevent that private transaction from happening, even though they don't own the property in question.
And there are plenty of other people affiliated with the NFL who have said or done divisive things, so don't even try that one.
And there are plenty of other people affiliated with the NFL who have said or done divisive things, so don't even try that one.
You mean like Georgia Frontiere? Did you know she died this year?
Bottom line: Some people just don't like Rush, don't want to let him be part owner of a team, and that little club has the power to prevent that private transaction from happening, even though they don't own the property in question.
And there are plenty of other people affiliated with the NFL who have said or done divisive things, so don't even try that one.
The free enterprise system allows unfettered selection of business partners. He has the "right" to say what he thinks. The NFL has the "right" to put him low on the list of desireable investors. It is not his "right" to own a team, that is a privilege that one has to apply to pay for.
People inside the NFL are subject to discipline from the commissioner. I don't know what they did to Al Davis for all his craphole stuff, but it should've been stiff.
People outside the NFL can only be excluded from joining a seemingly exclusive group. If it's so bad, why would he throw his hat in the ring in the first place?
ISLANDLEA
10-16-09, 01:57 AM
hi, i believe a person is responsible for their actions >
what they do >
> and, what they say
if a person talks like an ahole >
and, acts like an ahole >>>
they're going to be treated like an ahole ! > simple
the bid was withdrawn by the group > wisely http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/images/icons/icon6.gif
sgtdraino
10-16-09, 12:58 PM
The free enterprise system allows unfettered selection of business partners. He has the "right" to say what he thinks. The NFL has the "right" to put him low on the list of desireable investors. It is not his "right" to own a team, that is a privilege that one has to apply to pay for.
This isn't free enterprise, this is political pressure from people who don't own the property getting in the way of free enterprise.
Say soup wants to invest in the stock market, but the "National Stockbrokers League" decides you just aren't the "right sort of person" to join their club. Same thing.
People inside the NFL are subject to discipline from the commissioner. I don't know what they did to Al Davis for all his craphole stuff, but it should've been stiff.
People outside the NFL can only be excluded from joining a seemingly exclusive group. If it's so bad, why would he throw his hat in the ring in the first place?
It's just like any other little exclusive club of elites. They protect their own, and they don't want to let in "riff-raff," when in truth they are no different from the rest of us.
This isn't free enterprise, this is political pressure from people who don't own the property getting in the way of free enterprise.
Say soup wants to invest in the stock market, but the "National Stockbrokers League" decides you just aren't the "right sort of person" to join their club. Same thing.
Not the same thing, oversimplistic approach to comapring publicly traded stocks or commodities to private ownership in a football team. It's more akin to a job application. Say I wanted to apply to my town's police department, but I had a local radio show where I routinely decried certain portions of the local population. Are they within their right to deny my application?
Becoming a majority of an NFL team is a pretty big deal. You can't just buy your way in like you could with a basketball team. This is why we don't see black and female owners for the most part.
Its not like the NFL is saying that Rush can't be in the bidding its his business partners that have taken him off the table because they feel it gives them a better opportunity for the purchase.
Correct me if I am wrong but this is what I got out of it.
This isn't free enterprise, this is political pressure from people who don't own the property getting in the way of free enterprise.
Say soup wants to invest in the stock market, but the "National Stockbrokers League" decides you just aren't the "right sort of person" to join their club. Same thing.
It's just like any other little exclusive club of elites. They protect their own, and they don't want to let in "riff-raff," when in truth they are no different from the rest of us.
Okay, so... private clubs aren't allowed to only include the guys they want?
If I had a private club... I wouldn't want to be forced into including just any jackass that came along.
I'm just sayin'...
Becoming a majority of an NFL team is a pretty big deal. You can't just buy your way in like you could with a basketball team. This is why we don't see black and female owners for the most part.
Its not like the NFL is saying that Rush can't be in the bidding its his business partners that have taken him off the table because they feel it gives them a better opportunity for the purchase.
Correct me if I am wrong but this is what I got out of it.
His "business partners" dropped him because they NFL made it very clear that no group involving Rush would ever get voted in.
That's a smart business move, to be honest with ya.
sgtdraino
10-17-09, 03:11 AM
Not the same thing, oversimplistic approach to comapring publicly traded stocks or commodities to private ownership in a football team. It's more akin to a job application.
I don't think so. "The NFL" is not the owner of the team in question. Before this political pressure was brought to bear (using several lies btw), the actual owners and the actual bidders had no problem doing business with each other. The NFL in this scenario is more like a powerful labor organization or mafia family that steps in and starts telling the actual owners what they are and aren't allowed to do.
Say I wanted to apply to my town's police department, but I had a local radio show where I routinely decried certain portions of the local population. Are they within their right to deny my application?
On those grounds? Honestly probably not. Your personal opinions are irrelevant to the job, so long as you can act professionally. But I call into question the comparison. This is not at all like applying for a job, this is a business transaction. Comparing the NFL to a police department, a true public trust, is ridiculous. The NFL does not provide any public service to anyone, it is just another business.
Becoming a majority of an NFL team is a pretty big deal. You can't just buy your way in like you could with a basketball team. This is why we don't see black and female owners for the most part.
lol. And this doesn't bother you?
Its not like the NFL is saying that Rush can't be in the bidding its his business partners that have taken him off the table because they feel it gives them a better opportunity for the purchase.
Correct me if I am wrong but this is what I got out of it.
They were pressured into doing that by people like Al Sharpton, a guy who really has said racist things.
Okay, so... private clubs aren't allowed to only include the guys they want?
Of course not. But if you think of the team itself as a private club, the NFL is more like an outside party that comes in and tells that private club what it is and isn't allowed to do. If the current owners of the team want to sell to Rush, fine. If they don't, fine. My beef is the NFL coming in and telling them what sort of people they are and aren't allowed to conduct business with. That's mafia-like.
His "business partners" dropped him because they NFL made it very clear that no group involving Rush would ever get voted in.
Exactly. They were forced into it by the NFL "syndicate."
I think we are all missing the point. Limbaugh bitched the other day that Checketts had assured him they were covered when Limbaugh asked him if they were prepared for the malestrom that would ensue when Rush was announced as a member of his ownership bid.
Checketts used Rush for the publicity of his own group. He never actually intended Rush to be part of the group. He would drop Rush to elevate his group's standing in the process.
Either Checketts didn't really have Rush covered, or he can't be as smart as I would think he would have to be. If the :poop: storm was anticipated, then why didn't he stick to his guns?
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