View Full Version : Walt is "Special"
Spydarman
12-09-04, 08:24 PM
"Lucky" is apparently the title of Episode 14 (Walt Centric).
Looks like his special ability is going to be an uncanny way of controlling his luck...possibly foreseeing things in the near future.
Dread Pirate Yukon
12-09-04, 08:38 PM
I think there was something key about Walts other Dad.
gscaleta
12-09-04, 08:40 PM
and brandon has the keys??????????????? walt is brandon? or brandon is walt? or brandon is walts father? Or brandon is walts father? oh i said that.
Dread Pirate Yukon
12-09-04, 08:51 PM
Alex is walts father.
prydain15
12-09-04, 09:08 PM
For some reason I always get their names mixed up...I think that Walt is the dad and Michael is the son...maybe it's because Walt sounds like a name that older characters usually have...
killbuckner
12-09-04, 09:19 PM
I think that everyone who gives up desire to leave is rewarded by being luckier. Locke has no desire to ever go back to the real world and was given the use of his legs. Walt has very little for him left in the real world, and as he cuts ties with his father he is coming closer and closer to having no desire to leave so he is getting luckier and luckier. The less time someone has spent on the outside world the fewer ties they have so Walt will be the next one to get "the sickness" and of course Claire's baby would have no ties to the outside world which is why that baby is so important.
Baron X
12-10-04, 04:01 PM
I think that everyone who gives up desire to leave is rewarded by being luckier. Locke has no desire to ever go back to the real world and was given the use of his legs. Walt has very little for him left in the real world, and as he cuts ties with his father he is coming closer and closer to having no desire to leave so he is getting luckier and luckier. The less time someone has spent on the outside world the fewer ties they have so Walt will be the next one to get "the sickness" and of course Claire's baby would have no ties to the outside world which is why that baby is so important.
KB,
If I remember the time line correctly, Locke woke up with the ability to use his legs after the plane wreck. Exactly when did he have time to give up the desire to leave the island before his legs started working again? If you are going to build theories, start with some fact we know and work up. You have started with a presumption that Locke does not want to leave, you may be correct, but Locke has never expressed the desire to remain stranded away from Helen. And what ten year old boy willingly gives up TV, video games and his friends?
Walt may have accepted being on the island, but that is hardly the same thing as not wanting to leave the island.
jekelish
12-10-04, 04:02 PM
Walt is "special" eh? did he ride the short plane to the island, then?
:hat
Hodgepodge
12-10-04, 06:57 PM
Spydarman said:
"Lucky" is apparently the title of Episode 14 (Walt Centric).
Looks like his special ability is going to be an uncanny way of controlling his luck...possibly foreseeing things in the near future.
Are you serious about episode 14 being Walt's episode? I'm sure everyone remembers Walt's book with the polar bear in it. And now his uncanny ability to roll whatever number he needs in backgammon (not realizing any of this). I'd like to take the lil bugger to sin-city for a little rest and relaxation...:)
Dread Pirate Yukon
12-10-04, 08:19 PM
Exactly when did he have time to give up the desire to leave the island before his legs started working again?
Locke gave up his entire life before he even left the US.
killbuckner
12-10-04, 08:40 PM
Baron- What does Locke have left for him in the US? A horrible job with a boss that wants to make his life Hell. His only contact with a woman was a phonesex operator who didn't want to talk to him even though he was willing to keep paying. THen when he got to the outback and was denied his walkabout, he was denied his destiny and the only thing that mattered to him. It wouldn't surprise me if it comes out that Locke had a one way ticket and never intended to return at all- just to die on the outback or something like that. But thats speculation, the point is that Locke had NOTHING. On the island he is everything he ever wanted to be- why would he want to leave? I think that Locke is the key to understanding whats going on, and the fact that he was given the use of his legs immediately after arriving on the island is the whole basis of my theory.
Baron X
12-10-04, 08:48 PM
But it is not what you said.
killbuckner
12-10-04, 10:16 PM
THat is what I said- Locke arrived on the island with no desire to leave- immediately he was given the use of his legs. For Walt- he just has fewer ties to the outside world than anyone else besides locke. His mother is dead- and he has to start his life over with a new Father in a different country. He is never going to see any of his old friends or his mother again. He isn't nearly at the same place as locke who wouldn't go back, but with fewer ties its just a quicker process for him. Walt is excited to be on the island right now when he is around Locke. Its not the same as having no desire to leave, but its all part of the same process. This is all perfectly consistent with what we have seen so far.
And I am starting with an assumption- that Locke was given a reward immediately on arrival so somethign was fundamentally different about him. ANd from his episode I think the producers made it blatantly obvious that he has nothing at all left for him on the outside world. And I predicted long ago that as people gave up the desire to leave they would become luckier. Then predicted again that Walt would be the next one to be "infected" because he had the fewest ties to the outside world. Its not like I am changing this theory to fit new information- it all follows logically from the assumptions I made earlier.
Wynter Zera
12-10-04, 10:47 PM
Just one question. Is this show a remake of the Pretender?
Stu1961
12-10-04, 11:45 PM
THat is what I said- Locke arrived on the island with no desire to leave- immediately he was given the use of his legs. For Walt- he just has fewer ties to the outside world than anyone else besides locke. His mother is dead- and he has to start his life over with a new Father in a different country. He is never going to see any of his old friends or his mother again. He isn't nearly at the same place as locke who wouldn't go back, but with fewer ties its just a quicker process for him. Walt is excited to be on the island right now when he is around Locke. Its not the same as having no desire to leave, but its all part of the same process. This is all perfectly consistent with what we have seen so far.
And I am starting with an assumption- that Locke was given a reward immediately on arrival so somethign was fundamentally different about him. ANd from his episode I think the producers made it blatantly obvious that he has nothing at all left for him on the outside world. And I predicted long ago that as people gave up the desire to leave they would become luckier. Then predicted again that Walt would be the next one to be "infected" because he had the fewest ties to the outside world. Its not like I am changing this theory to fit new information- it all follows logically from the assumptions I made earlier.
No desire to leave? or no desire to return to the US? Wait, that doesn't make sense - since he was returning.... Doesn't sound like he was quitting on his "destiny" if he was returning. Plus, that would assume a very loose definition of "destiny". One person tells him "what he cannot do" ... and he caves in? What was he returning for? or did he know the plane was going to crash. Maybe he willed it down, because he knew this island was alive and would restore his ability to walk.
Rewarded for something he had already done (leaving his prior life behind) before crashing...? How could he know he didn't want to leave before he even knew where he was? For all Locke knew, the island could have been without fresh water and his painful death would have happened in just a matter of days.
Hurley gave up chocolate covered coconut clusters a week before the crash - what was he rewarded with?
Was Kate rewarded with the Marshall's death? Because she, surely, had no desire to return as a fugitive...
What did Charlie have to return to? Withdrawal? His brother turned him down in his last chance at resurrecting his career. Charlie believed himself useless without his music. Was he rewarded with his guitar? Locke gave that to him though - or is Locke becoming the island...
Damn! Broke my hammer trying to pound in this square peg.
Good luck with this theory. Sounds like you're headed south with Michael.
Spydarman
12-11-04, 12:07 AM
Sorry, the title of episode 14 is going to be "SPECIAL"....not "LUCKY".
Mistake on my part...too busy thinking about Walt's luckiness ability.
finkel is einhorn.. einhorn is finkel...
ok but seriously.. if walt's mother died, would he not be left in the care of the step dad??
Baron X
12-11-04, 07:22 AM
Thank you Stu.
mystjade
01-13-05, 04:09 AM
I have heard a lot of speculation about walt/lockes relationship.
particulerly about locke influncing walt. But what if the reverse were true. This would accompany the walt is special theory nicly.
LostHorizon
01-20-05, 01:41 AM
I think tonight's episode finally answers the question wether or not Walt is "Special"....... :)
Hodgepodge
01-20-05, 07:26 PM
LostHorizon says:
I think tonight's episode finally answers the question wether or not Walt is "Special".
You're not kidding! That little trick with the bird was scary, along with the reappearance of the Polar Bear.
I honestly think Walt's controlling a lot of what's happening on the island.
biplaner
01-20-05, 09:21 PM
I think Walt IS special altho he doesnt know this.
What kind of extraordinary powers does he have?
Will be watching for more clues re this idea....
Biplaner
So Walt brings things to life from his imagination, the bird from the book he was reading, then the polar bear from the comic book. Still not sure it ties in with the dog.
I wished Brian would have said more to Michael about what he observed about Walt - but I guess we only get tidbits here and there! :)
Good episode though - wish next week wasn't a rerun!
theinvisiblefil
01-26-05, 01:06 PM
What comic was Walt reading?
gramaticallyincorrect
01-26-05, 09:29 PM
I have deciphered one thing: Walt is a wizard. He is not yet eleven (the age when young wizards receive their ''letter'') and he makes things happen without knowing that he's doing it ie. the bird hitting the window was an act of frustration to his mother and stepdad ignoring him. This parallels Harry Potter when he made the glass disappear at the zoo when he was mad at his cousin dudley. I also think Walt is the reason they are on the island and that Vincent is very important. But i could be full of shit too...
I agree, although I don't think he is a wizard. He's obviously less able to control his abilities.
rknorton91
05-04-05, 02:55 PM
Something bothering me about that episode where Walt made the Bird hit the window. Walt said that he had picked the Bronze Kahuku as the bird at least according to the transcripts.
The thing is I can't find a reference to any such bird. I tried searching for it on the net and get back nothing but Hawaiian references for Kahuku. I have tried search for Australian and New Zealand bird and I have tried searching for Hawaiian specifically but turn up no matches.
I am just curious why they would have Walt say the name of a specific bird while looking in a book of birds and then not have that bird actually exist. Though maybe it does and just did not look in the right place?
Hodgepodge
05-04-05, 04:13 PM
rknorton91 says:Something bothering me about that episode where Walt made the Bird hit the window. Walt said that he had picked the Bronze Kahuku as the bird at least according to the transcripts.
The thing is I can't find a reference to any such bird. I tried searching for it on the net and get back nothing but Hawaiian references for Kahuku. I have tried search for Australian and New Zealand bird and I have tried searching for Hawaiian specifically but turn up no matches.
I am just curious why they would have Walt say the name of a specific bird while looking in a book of birds and then not have that bird actually exist. Though maybe it does and just did not look in the right place?
Rknorton91, I found the same thing when I Googled for the bird. This was when Special first aired. But then I looked at the word Kahuku. It came to me! They're trying to spell Cuckoo. Once I corrected the spelling, so to speak, I found the bird.
Give it a try!
rknorton91
05-04-05, 07:03 PM
Ha sure enough it was just a typo then
http://www.mangoverde.com/birdsound/images/00000010905.jpg
LostHorizon
09-25-05, 01:36 AM
biplaner wrote:
I think Walt IS special altho he doesnt know this.
What kind of extraordinary powers does he have?
Will be watching for more clues re this idea....
I guess we can add bi-location psycho-creative projection abilities to the list of Walt's ever expanding powers, as per Shannon's "vision" . Walt most likely created some sort of pyschic link with Shannon via Vincent the dog, and was trying to send her a mental visual message via the Island's "Whisperspace" that he and the rafters are in trouble.
No wonder the Others wanted him so much....
It's a thought...
mutielover
10-01-05, 03:27 PM
I think that what appears to be "luck" is actually Walt sub-consciously affecting his environment. The best examples of this are the dice and in Season One, Episode Three (I think) when Michael tells him that he'll go search for Vincent when it stops raining. The downpour immediately stops, and Walt gives Michael a look that says "ok, now go get my damn dog".
Hodgepodge
10-03-05, 04:47 PM
LostHorizon says:I guess we can add bi-location psycho-creative projection abilities to the list of Walt's ever expanding powers, as per Shannon's "vision" . Walt most likely created some sort of pyschic link with Shannon via Vincent the dog, and was trying to send her a mental visual message via the Island's "Whisperspace" that he and the rafters are in trouble.
mutielover says: I think that what appears to be "luck" is actually Walt sub-consciously affecting his environment. The best examples of this are the dice and in Season One, Episode Three (I think) when Michael tells him that he'll go search for Vincent when it stops raining. The downpour immediately stops, and Walt gives Michael a look that says "ok, now go get my damn dog".Mutielover, let me welcome you to Lost-TV. I'm sure you're going to enjoy the community. Make sure to read the Welcome forum, it's easy to get lost. Now to your post.
I definitely think you both are on to something. But someone brought to my attention a conversation between Locke and Boone in Hearts and Mind. Boone tells Locke, Shannon's special.
I think Walt is somehow projecting his misfortune, but Shannon's on the receiving end. With help from Vincent.
Griffyn612
10-07-05, 12:42 AM
Did anybody else hear that what Walt says in the woods is "Don't push the button, the button is bad" but backwards?
that's what the local radio station said. they're big LOST fans, and couldn't understand what he said, so then they played it backwards on their equipment.
i agree Walt can project things he wants, including things that didn't exist. but what about the dog? wasn't he worried about the dog in the beginning, and then it showed up? i can't remember.
Hodgepodge
10-07-05, 01:15 AM
Griffyn612, let me welcome you to Lost-TV. I'm sure you're going to enjoy the community. Make sure to read the Welcome forum, it's easy to get lost. Now to your post.
Griffyn612 asks: Did anybody else hear that what Walt says in the woods is "Don't push the button, the button is bad" but backwards?...Oh we definitely got that one! Check out the General Discussion Area forum, there's several threads talking about this exact thing.
And again, welcome!
remember when walt is in the woods with Locke ? throwing knives.. First attempt fails (look at dog, he is calm), before second attempt Locke tells him to see it in his minds eye before throwing the knife.. Now you get a closeup on walt where you can see that he focuses and like hes really seeing it, and just before he throws the knife you see a nervous dog.
I think the dog can detect whatever power walt have. Thats also the reason why the dog run away when there is trouble on the raft
Also walt knows about the hatch, but noone have told him about it. Maybe the dog have seen it when it was away from the camp and somehow Walt can see through its eyes or read its/peoples mind...
zeropants
02-13-06, 08:14 AM
finkel is einhorn.. einhorn is finkel...
ok but seriously.. if walt's mother died, would he not be left in the care of the step dad??
Walt's stepdad visited Michael in an early episode and said he had no plans on taking care of him. He also said that he never wanted a kid and only took him to mary his mother.
The stepdad, I think his name was Brian, also mentioned that he thought there was something special about Walt that made him uneasy...
azteclady
02-13-06, 01:45 PM
Welcome to the community, zeropants!
You are correct. In season 1's episode Special, Brian visited Michael after Susan's (Walt's mother) death and explained that he, Brian had only adopted Walt at Susan's urging, and that furthermore, he was uncomfortable in Walt's presence because he was different.
Since you posted directly in the appropriate thread for your very first post, I imagine it's unnecessary to remind you to read the Welcome forum or to check out our nifty search function, but I'll do it anyway for the benefit of other readers.
Again, welcome!
jessabelle
12-30-07, 04:53 PM
KB,
. . . . And what ten year old boy willingly gives up TV, video games and his friends?
Walt may have accepted being on the island, but that is hardly the same thing as not wanting to leave the island.
But remember, Walt set fire to his father's first raft when it was near completion. When Locke asked him about it, he said that he liked the island and is sick of moving around.
Hodgepodge
01-03-08, 11:04 PM
Jessabelle, let me welcome you to Lost-TV. I'm sure you're going to enjoy the community. Make sure and read the New Member Welcome (http://losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25440) post, and introduce yourself in the same thread. Also, be sure and read the Rules and Guidelines (http://losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1361508#post1361508). They're both here to help make your stay a happy one. Now to your post!
But remember, Walt set fire to his father's first raft when it was near completion. When Locke asked him about it, he said that he liked the island and is sick of moving around.I couldn't agree more. What 10 year-old boy wouldn't like to miss school for the forseeable future? Hang around all day and play with his dog? Thinking about it now, I'd want to stay and I'm old. :Hippy:
And again, :welcome:
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