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kevinlav27
05-11-05, 04:06 PM
Which is why he will tell them not to open the hatch.
BTW, this is just a speculation on my part. I think that Walt "sees" something, and whatever the hatch is, it will help them leave the island.

cinderellabop
05-11-05, 04:19 PM
Welcome, Kevinlav!

I'm thinking this should be moved to Walt's forum. I'm going to move it there now.

I hope you enjoy the board!

Mattie
05-11-05, 05:28 PM
Are you saying whatever is in the hatch will aid in their efforts to escape, and that is why Walt doesn't want it opened?

kevinlav27
05-11-05, 05:52 PM
yes, that is what I am saying. Walt "sees" that whatever the hatch is, it will help them get off the island. Therefore, he tells them not to open it.

mzsandeestar
05-11-05, 06:18 PM
I agree that Walt doesn't want to leave the island, but I think he has a fear of whatever is in the hatch.

If he sees something, he would not openly discuss that with a warning.
I don't think Walt knows he is "special". Whatever is going on with Walt and his powers , he is unaware of it.

BooneWasABoar
05-12-05, 09:02 AM
Walt does want to leave the island. Near the end of the episode after walt confesses to burning the first raft his father says something to the effect of "hey its okay maaaan, we dont have to go". Then walt says "Yes we do".

Then the Ominious Sound plays.

mhm

azteclady
05-12-05, 03:04 PM
After Born to Run this is no longer spoilerish, so I'm editing the thread tittle.

In a conversation last night, the parallels between Walt's reaction to Locke's touch (could the camera work be more obvious?) and The Dead Zone (Stephen King) are quite evident.

My take is that Walt's vision is not such, but more a 'feeling of impending doom' that vaguely relates to the hatch - so he can warn Locke about openning it, but couldn't explain why if asked. Similar to how Claire's psychic, Malkin, describes his own visions.

Mattie
05-12-05, 04:07 PM
After last night it was obvious Walt has some kind of ability. He can definitely sense bad things coming from opening that hatch - and now he wants off the island because of it. He burned the raft to stay before, now he wants to get the hell off. Stay away from the haaaaatch.

Hodgepodge
05-12-05, 08:55 PM
Well, will somebody explain to ChanceGardner and ODamment. I've been trying to convince them of Walt's talents since the Pilot (Part 2), but they refuse to see it. Oh ye of little faith!

And you're right! That touch gave Walt a vision of the hatch. He didn't know what to call it, but he was adamant about not opening it.

Mattie
05-12-05, 09:01 PM
I'm on your side Hodge. The writers have given clues and hints of Walt's ability throughout the episodes. We need to just accept it.

Why is that hard to accept, but the idea of them surviving this crash unharmed isn't? Or a giant monster? Or a huge hatch buried in the ground?

hjr
05-13-05, 01:35 AM
What I find impossible to believe is that Walt didn't express any concern over leaving Vincent behind. I can't imagine the rafters taking along a dog who would not be useful and only consume their limited supplies, but it is totally out of character for Walt to ignore Vincent here.

LostHorizon
05-26-05, 02:51 AM
I guess the Island doesn't want Walt to leave....

:lol

azteclady
05-26-05, 04:43 AM
Actually, after having seen Boone and Steve/Scott die, I think that Walt is much more receptive to the reasoning behind leaving Vincent behind. It's still a bit out of character, and if that was all, I would completely agree with you. But Walt has not only seen death on the island (two within days) but also whatever it was that he 'saw' through touching Locke.

I think that last tipped the scales for him, and made him see that fussing over Vincent was not in his best interest.

Hodgepodge
05-27-05, 06:28 PM
azteclady says:...I think that last tipped the scales for him, and made him see that fussing over Vincent was not in his best interest.AZ, you don't feel Walt leaving Vincent with Shannon was only temporary? Remember, the rafters are looking for rescuers, not a sea-lane all the way home.

Mattie
05-27-05, 10:05 PM
Why could walt sense the impending doom with the hatch but not what they'd find out at sea?

Hodgepodge
05-28-05, 06:24 PM
Kathy Fan 2 asks: Why could walt sense the impending doom with the hatch but not what they'd find out at sea?KF2, remember the circumstances that prompted the vision of the hatch? Locke grabbed his hand/arm.

Mattie
05-28-05, 08:29 PM
Well I'm guessing he wishes he'd never left now eh? I wonder what's in that thing...

Interesting that both rafts got destroyed by fire too.

Hodgepodge
05-28-05, 08:37 PM
Kathy Fan 2 says:...Interesting that both rafts got destroyed by fire too.Yeah, that's kind of ironic. But, did it look like the raft was a complete loss? Looked like Michael would have something to keep himself afloat. My thought is, what does he do now? How is he suppose to find Walt, if he's drowning? And, if he doesn't drawn, how is suppose to follow the kidnappers?

Is it September yet!

Mattie
05-28-05, 08:57 PM
I think he'll go back to the beach, because that boat goes way too fast to follow. And I think since he knows "the others" have to live on the island...that he'll go out searching for them.

But I'm not a professional writer so JJ and crew will probably come up with something a lot better than that.

Hodgepodge
05-28-05, 09:34 PM
Kathy Fan 2 says:I think he'll go back to the beach, because that boat goes way too fast to follow. And I think since he knows "the others" have to live on the island...that he'll go out searching for them...So you think he's going to get back to the other survivors? I'm wondering in Lost time, how many hours/days were they at sea?

If he does make it back, I hope they do a better job searching for Walt than they did for Claire!

Mattie
05-28-05, 09:44 PM
So you think he's going to get back to the other survivors? I'm wondering in Lost time, how many hours/days were they at sea?

I'm thinking probably episode 2 or 3 of the season. That way it'll be a realistic amount of time since each episode is one day. If they made it back to the beach in the season premiere that's not too realistic to assume they made it 15 miles in one day. Or is it? I don't know how fast holding onto a piece of wood and kicking your legs moves you.

I'm willing to bet on the way back they hit a monsoon though. Why else would Arzt mention it was monsoon season if so far we haven't seen any rain out at sea? It'd be a good time for the monsoon to come when they're all stuck holding onto a tiny piece of wood. Dun dun dun.