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LostInWilderness
10-05-05, 08:19 PM
Or scenes not completed - thanks Hodge, this is exactly the things I mean.
I noticed 2 very significant things left unsaid in a couple of episodes. These are serious tipping points in the lostaways lives, and I wonder if they aren't clues to some splitting of timelines or something.
Jack and Sarah never say their vows at the wedding. ETA - I meant they never say "I do," and they're not pronounced married.
Michael never says OK to Walt's mom about giving up custody of Walt.
Can anybody add to this list? I bet there are more. Keep them coming please.
ETA: Hodge adds we never see Frank Duckett die.
Momofsamty
10-05-05, 08:40 PM
As I remember it, Sarah did say her vows, then it was Jacks turn and he hesitated for a uncomfortable amount of time, but finally started his. I don't ever remember Michael agreeing to the guardianship transfer, it just kind of happened, the cold hearted witch pretty much guilted him into it.
Matt 2108
10-05-05, 08:46 PM
They did say their vows. They made their own, remember? Sarah did hers and then Jack does this little speech about how much he loves her but couldn't write his own vows, and this speech turns out to be his vows. Then they kiss and live happily(or unhappily?) ever after.
Momofsamty
10-05-05, 08:52 PM
That is right! That's exactly what happened, now I remember, thanks for refreshing my memory. It really seemed like he was going to back out there for a moment.
Hodgepodge
10-05-05, 08:53 PM
They actually never say "I do"!
DreaminLost
10-05-05, 09:04 PM
Well, they don't SHOW them saying "I DO" or the kiss, that's true.
But doesn't Jack say to Anna Lucia in the airport bar that he isn't married... ANYMORE...
Which implies that he once was. Either she died or they're divorced.
Matt 2108
10-05-05, 09:06 PM
...That's because "I do" is part of the traditional wedding vows and they wrote their own vows. ;)
DreaminLost
10-05-05, 09:08 PM
Okay, but the point I'm making is that they never actually show the 'conclusion' of the wedding. Right??
Matt 2108
10-05-05, 09:15 PM
True. It goes to a new scene after they kiss.
Hodgepodge
10-05-05, 09:22 PM
DreaminLost says:But doesn't Jack say to Anna Lucia in the airport bar that he isn't married... ANYMORE...
Which implies that he once was. Either she died or they're divorced.I agee 100%!
LIW calls them "things left unsaid"! I like to call them incomplete scenes. Scenes that TPTB can come back and change anyway they want.
This one comes to mind!
In Outlaws. Sawyer shoots Frank Duckett. We assume he died. It's never said. We even think Sawyer assumes he killed him. But we really don't know! If they wanted, TPTB could show him just wounded. Recovering in a hospital in Australia.
See what I mean. There's several throughout S1.
DreaminLost
10-05-05, 09:26 PM
What is 'LIW'?
Momofsamty
10-05-05, 09:26 PM
That's exactly what they do best don't they, leave us hanging? That's what makes it such a great show they always keep us guessing!
Hodgepodge
10-05-05, 09:32 PM
DreaminLost asks:What is 'LIW'?LIW, is the person who started this thread. LostInWilderness! Some of the members nics are rather long. So some of us shorten them. Makes 'em easier to type.
DreaminLost
10-05-05, 09:35 PM
Some of the members nics are rather long. So some of us shorten them. Makes 'em easier to type.
GOTCHA! *Trying to feed children and put them to bed EARLY tonight...
Snowpants7
10-05-05, 11:15 PM
the whole "jack and sara weren't REALLY married" debate always makes me think of "Princess Bride"...anyone else?
"man and wife! say MAN AND WIFE!"
and then wesley asks buttercup if she said i do, or whatever, and she says no, so he says they were never really married...
anyway, yes, it IS interesting...in any other forum, i'm grateful when screenwriters/directors/etc. have enough faith in me as a viewer (and have presented their story in a strong enough way) to trust me to make leaps of understanding, to infer that we just saw X, and now Z is happening, so Y must have taken place...
but with "lost," NOTHING can be taken for granted, as much as i want to...
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