"The Others" In episode 2

[JLE1021]

I counted >10 when Sawyer turned his head

In the preview for next week the others had a in-ground cell

[CowboyfromHell]

Yeah, they definitely looked freaky. I think I noticed Adubise's (from Oz) character throwing them into the underground cage thingy too. Nice to see Ana Lucia gets introduced as well. Been waitin for that sexy thang to make a return to the show since she was first on it.

The "Others" are definitely barbarian types who may have the "sickness" and that's why they're that way. They sorta looked like zombies walking down that hill. heh I dunno, just speculation that they're "sick."

But I'm DYING to get more information on the Desmond situation. Ugh. I had held out hope all week long that I'd find that out tonight and it didn't happen. Kinda pissed about it in a way.

But hey, I'm really stoked about next week's now.

[JLE1021]

yea. what Im wondering is why desmomd said "so there is still a world" to locke

[Chinamom]

In that brief glimpse of the Others, they reminded me of that weird and sort of disturbing LOST promo for the UK, in which the survivors are wearing strange costumes, the women have scary makeup, and everyone is dancing.

Probably not a connection, but that was my first thought.

[MaryUt]

The others did not look to be dressed the same as the ones on the boat - makes me wonder if there are different 'societies' on the island -

Glad to see the others finally - the series folks are really doing a great job starting off the season - we need to pace ourselves, the season is just starting!

[snowtires]

my brother had a good idea: that maybe things weren't as civil on the other side of the island. maybe these people aren't the others, they could very well be other castaways from shipwrecks, maybe one of the drug smugglers, who knows? but, the point being, maybe they thought someone shot down the plane and so, instead of setting up a nice, peaceful society like jack, locke, kate, etc. they set up a lord of the flies-ish 'everyone is against us' society.

[Purgatori]

yeah... civilized. Jacks "clan" are so society friendly they have tortured eachother, stolen from each other, blew <snip> up, beat the crap out of each other, watched each other die, and lets go back and count the number of times they have pulled out the guns. Plus knowing there are other freaks on the island... do you think they will be so friendly to others? Shoot first ask questions later.... Mabey the new "clan" is mad because their pregnant chick just got nabbed.

[LostInWilderness]

How did Jin know the word "others?"

[Lost In His Eyes]

^I was wondering that too, but I just figured he had picked up on it when they learn about the Other's coming.

At first, I actually thought he was saying 'udders' and I was like 'Why in the hell... Oh Others!' :lol

[LoStMyMiNd]

Maybe Ethan was a part of this group. It appears that these other people may be the ones that were in the tail section, the ones that repeated on the radio to Boone that they were the survivors of Flight 815. Maybe these other survivors thought Claire and her child had been captured by a group of devious outlaws and they were just trying to get her back by using Ethan

[Heather]

I second that theory that these newbies are actually the rest of the plane's survivors. I just think they didn't have the benefit of a leader like Jack and they've gone a little nuts ... maybe The Others have been visiting them as well and that's who they think Jin, Michael and Sawyer are.

[mzsandeestar]

If it is a group made up of entirely tail section survivors , they are dressed in whatever they can find because the front enders have all the luggage.

[Nightchill]

Since one of them seemed to be the lady Jack met in the airport, I'll go with the tail section survivors. Since they tied up Jin (a little oddly) and are heavily armed (caveman regalia) then it makes sense that they've met the Others a fair bit. Definitely more than our usual group who have little to be scared about beyond the odd honking noise in the jungle as the velociraptor's mate. Like jackrabbits they are.

[mackramsey]

I agree that the Others look kind of "zombie" like. They certainly don't look they're coming in a group with a leader...almost individually but at the same time. Any takers on how Jin got back to the Island and managed to get tied up? He's either the world's strongest swimmer or he got a lift.

[lostintexas]

I think Jin dove under the water, swam around and held on to the back of the "other's" boat. They discovered him at some point and took him prisoner.

I don't think we'll ever see the "real others" because they are always just whispers. I think either, parallell universe or some sort of "watched" theory. Like experiments that others are watching.

[*Saint*]

I think these others aren't as friendly merely because the Nigerian (the guy from OZ mentioned earlier) has them all under control. After all, he was there first when his plane with the heroin crashed. They'll use him as the new antagonist.

[Mom]

{I think these others aren't as friendly merely because the Nigerian (the guy from OZ mentioned earlier) has them all under control}

Wasn't the beechcraft with the heroin from Nigeria? Maybe the losttailers found him and he told them he would protect them from the 'others'.

[*Saint*]

Yeah, the big guy in the front is the guy from OZ and he is playing the Nigerian, obviously from the beechcraft. For some reason though, I have a strong feeling he isn't very friendly with these survivors and beats them around...

And would this have to do with the "and they aren't the survivors they thought they were?"

[LawL]

To the response that Ethan was on the plane. Hurley already dismissed that by having the flight manafest, and comparing names in Season 1.

[*Saint*]

Exactly. That was one of season 1's big shockers: that there was someone along with the group that...ba ba buuummmm: was NOT on the plane!!!

I just want to know if Ethan was with Desmond or with the Gorton's Fisherman.

[claybemine]

I find it a little bit hard to believe that in 44 days the people from the tail end of the plane would have gone this far off the deep end. I'm thinking that it is other people. But not the "others".

[TeamCrown]

I don't think that they are the "others". I think it's more likely that we are seeing a seperate group of island dwellers. Perhaps the descendants of the Black Rock crew? Or the slaves? Or it's also possible that Dharma was or is a biological weapons manufacturer and the people on the beach are some sort of test subjects.

Remember, Danielle is the only one who can actually tell us who the "others" are, not Jin. He could be thinking that they are the others, but I seem to think that the guys on the boat that took Walt would be more likely to be the actual "others" that Danielle is referring to.

Obviously, mine are just theories, but I don't see a connection between a pack of cannibals , the sailors, and the technological implications of Dharma (whatever they do). Only one of them can be the "others".

[Vicky Holloway]

Are we even sure that THEY are THE OTHERS? I mean for all i know Jin could be paranoid and say that any kind of freaks living on the Island (like the French woman) is an OTHER... + i looked up pictures for Orientation and Ana Lucia is one of them... (meaning she appeared at the end of Adrift... and she did! if you go look up some pictures on Lost Multi Media you'll see... Check out the pictures for Orientation! She is there when we first see "the Others" and if not captive, as one of them...) Aren't they supposed to be the survivors of the tail section of the plain? and then again... if they were... why would they torture Jin... mmm... yeah... but how often do you come across a non speaking english, Korean guy in the jungle screaming in an other language too...
Got any ideas??

[Meggie]

Did the ones who had Jin have weapons? I can't remember, but if they did...where did those weapons come from if they really were the tail end survivors?
I'm just a newbie with random thoughts.....

[truffula]

Here are my caps of the people approaching the raftaways:

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I see Emeka (or whatever his name will end up being - the long African name in the guest starring credits, that guy) in the front leading the charge. I see Ana Lucia (Michelle Rodriguez, listed in credits) behind him (she's holding the two pronged weapon). I also see an unidentified man (Bernard?) with a multiple spiked club, and what looks like two women (Libby and ??).

They might be "Others". But to me they're tail section survivors. And the last 44 days have sucked for them. And they're pissed.
The "Others" was a name coined by Danielle for the voices she heard in the jungle, she never saw them. The fact that TPTB have said that Capt. Gorton and crew were the Others that Danielle referred to, and that Sawyer concluded they were makes me think though.
We'll see.

[LawL]

Its very possible for these people if on the tail section could have went this nuts. With no solid leader, anything to hold the small realm of sanity together. I mean look at our groupd of losties....i could consider a few of them NUTS. Things happen after eating coconuts for so long :P

I think its possible thanks.

[serenity]

http://http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v352/lxcutiexl/hit.jpg

[Lost Dog 4815162342]

They are others, but they are "other" flight 815 survivors. And they have had it much worse during these last 44 days.

:hat

[serenity]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v352/lxcutiexl/lostpic.jpg

Here are tow of the people who took Jin.

[Jagasian]

They are obviously tail section survivors. Remember how that black woman said that her husband is still alive, and Jack says that she can't keep thinking that, that they are all dead. She replies that they are probably saying the same things about us.

[Lost Dog 4815162342]

Her name is Rose.

[Lostapalooza]

Yeah, I'm certain they are the tail section survivors as well AND that they (or a good number of them) have the "sickness" that Desmond and Danielle have alluded to.

[LawL]

I would hope they are survivors, i mean the black guy has dickie pants on..so unless the others have random shippments of dickie jeans and dress pants dropped off - COME ON AND ALL TO THE LOST STRIP MALL! DICKIE PANTS ON SALE FOR 2 COCONUTS AND A SHELL!

[ClarissManners]

Maybe there is no world left..Is anyone from the mainland actually looking for them??? The Survivors may have to start their own world..and let me know when you settle in Sawyer so I can come a calling...:evil

[Lostapalooza]

Like I said in another post, I think they've got the "sickness" that Danielle and Desmond have asked about.

[Lost Dog 4815162342]

I doubt they are sick. Eventually they all go back to the camp.

[Meggie]

Is the "sickness" mental or physical? If it's mental, it could explain Danielle/Desmond/Ethan. If it were physical, it could explain why "quarantine" was written on the hatch.
If the others are infected, wouldn't bringing them back to Jack's camp spread the disease even more if in fact it is communicable?

[*Saint*]

If they have the sickness, poor Michelle Rodriquez. She got sick and had to be killed in "resident evil." :(

[merry slug]

I don't think we'll ever see the "real others" because they are always just whispers. I think either, parallell universe or some sort of "watched" theory. Like experiments that others are watching.

In an interview with one of the PTB (JJ?), he confirmed that Cptn. Gorton and his crew were definitely part of The Others, so we've seen at least a few of them.

Of course that still leaves this new group in question - are they the tail sectioners or a whole "other" (Arr Arr) group who've taken some of the tail sectioners?

You know, for a deserted island, this place is getting pretty crowded :b

[newdunkcity]

I don't think the tail survivors had it as easy and the survivors we know. I also think they probably had more encounters with the monster.

[Yank2302]

I think there are several groups of people on the island. There's our crew, the boat crew, Dez, Frenchie, the Tail Crew, and the people chasing Jin at the end of Ep. 2. Personally, I think the people chasing Jin are the "others" we've been waiting for. They looked to be zombified when they came walking out of the jungle. Perhaps Jin, Sawyer, and Mike end up finding the tail section people while running away from the "others"...that's how they hook up with Anna and Emka...as for the people on the boat they could have some connection to Dez or be connected to another "company" testing on the island...IMHO

[chaos28]

You could always go with my friend's theory that they're "Number-Activated Musical Zombies." But somehow I doubt that's true.

"The Others" that took Walt have technology. Guns, boats, lights, etc. They wouldn't be walking around the island with spiked planks of wood and rags hanging off of them. They're either additional survivors of Flight 815, or they're survivors of something else. But it's pretty clear they're not "The Others."

[Shadow1138]

Someone stated early that maybe the other 815 survivors had more run ins with the "monster". Now we know the "monster" is some sort of a security system. That means its protecting something. It never goes near the beach or the caves so it might be securing a specific area. What if the other survivors landed much closer to the area that is protected? I doubt its linked but what if, from the Pilot, when the survivors are listening and watch the destruction of the jungle from the monster, they're unknowingly (is that a word?!?) watching the monster chasing the other survivors?!?

[soundthetoll]

Interesting theory on the Monster's first appearence in the Pilot. It makes sense, but it I remember correctly, weren't the trees coming down toward the beach? If the monster is coming towards the beach then where were the survivors? Or am I wrong? Maybe the trees were falling away from them.

And unknowingly is a word ;)

[Shadow1138]

you might be right about the falling trees.

Thanks for the confirmation of "unknowingly". Now I'm going to try and use it for the rest of the week! :rollin

[Rick Schu]

The monster never appears where there isn't trees and it seems to suck the trees underground. So, you don't see the monster on the beach or on the golf course.

[booneandshannonfan]

i think tht too he was scary so wer the others its a connection lol:) but i still wonder y did they take claire?