Purgatory?

[JacobLikesRunning]

A coworker suggested the island is actually part of Purgatory. Maybe these people are riding the fence of Heaven and Hell, and during their time on this island is their last chance to make it to Heaven. It actually goes against my personal beliefs, but as far as this show goes, it might be something like a Purgatory situation.

Any thoughts?


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[jameselek]

If you watched the show closely this Wednesday (the one that featured the pregnant girl) you would have noticed that her boyfriend, the artist had a painting in his apartment in a scene. This is interesting for one reason, on the painting was written in large black letters the word HELL. Are there any more clues necessary?

[drabauer]

I think the set designer has a healthy sense of humore.
;)

[CQC7]

Actually Jacob, I have it on good authority that the show is really based on the Aboriginal culture.

In said culture, for a person to come of age they must isolate themselves (preferrably in the wilderness) and travel until they find their spirit guide. When they do so, their guide will reveal some great personal insight and thus help them mature spiritually. As you can see many of the islanders have already undergone some profound spiritual/personal experience which could all be part of their individual quests.

I'm not so sure what this purgatory thing you speak of is, and what "Heaven" and "Hell" are, but I don't think they can stand up against a far better accepted notion of the Aboriginal spirit quest. The way I see it, the Great Spirit is the main star of this show and the islanders are simply trying to come to terms with it.

I think Claire's baby is going to be her own personal spirit quest that she will interestingly bring into the world. Therefore its fitting that only she has the ultimate power to decide if it will be good or malevolent.

[spooky]

Actually, CQC7, I have it on good authority that many indigenous cultures now accept the doctrine of purgatory. In Australia, for instance, there is the Outback, and then there is The Way Outback For Tortured Souls. I hear Friere is amassing an army of counter-missionaries, though, who are furiously pamphleteering their motto: Purgatory be damned.

[AilaAolani]

hashed, rehashed and burned to a crisp. There's even a club.

[DHARMA]

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cinderellabop]

:rolleyes Here we go again...

Please, this is hardly a new theory. There are about 20 posts on the subject, if you would just look around before you post it.

We have heard from one of the writers who has said it is not Purgatory. Honestly, if the characters were dead, what would be the point of their struggle for survival? Of the relationships they might form? What would it matter if Claire ever had her baby? It's a dead-end storyline.

No more Purgatory, please....

[drabauer]

The previous threads:

Purgatory 1 (http://p073.ezboard.com/flosttheunofficalforumfortheabcseriesfrm29.showMes sage?topicID=70.topic)
Purgatory 2 (http://p073.ezboard.com/flosttheunofficalforumfortheabcseriesfrm29.showMes sage?topicID=70.topic)
Purgatory 3 (http://p073.ezboard.com/flosttheunofficalforumfortheabcseriesfrm29.showMes sage?topicID=70.topic)
Purgatory 4 (http://p073.ezboard.com/flosttheunofficalforumfortheabcseriesfrm29.showMes sage?topicID=70.topic)
Purgatory 5 (http://p073.ezboard.com/flosttheunofficalforumfortheabcseriesfrm29.showMes sage?topicID=89.topic)
Purgatory 6 (http://p073.ezboard.com/flosttheunofficalforumfortheabcseriesfrm29.showMes sage?topicID=105.topic)
Purgatory 7 (http://p073.ezboard.com/flosttheunofficalforumfortheabcseriesfrm29.showMes sage?topicID=110.topic)
Purgatory 8 (http://p073.ezboard.com/flosttheunofficalforumfortheabcseriesfrm29.showMes sage?topicID=23.topic)
Purgatory 9 (http://p073.ezboard.com/flosttheunofficalforumfortheabcseriesfrm29.showMes sage?topicID=109.topic)
Purgatory 10 (http://p073.ezboard.com/flosttheunofficalforumfortheabcseriesfrm29.showMes sage?topicID=131.topic)
Purgatory 11 (http://p073.ezboard.com/flosttheunofficalforumfortheabcseriesfrm29.showMes sage?topicID=153.topic)
Purgatory 12 (http://p073.ezboard.com/flosttheunofficalforumfortheabcseriesfrm29.showMes sage?topicID=332.topic)
Purgatory 13 (http://p073.ezboard.com/flosttheunofficalforumfortheabcseriesfrm29.showMes sage?topicID=6.topic)
Purgatory 14 (http://p073.ezboard.com/flosttheunofficalforumfortheabcseriesfrm29.showMes sage?topicID=150.topic)
Purgatory 15 (http://p073.ezboard.com/flosttheunofficalforumfortheabcseriesfrm29.showMes sage?topicID=204.topic)
Purgatory 16 (http://p073.ezboard.com/flosttheunofficalforumfortheabcseriesfrm29.showMes sage?topicID=336.topic)
Purgatory 17 (http://p073.ezboard.com/flosttheunofficalforumfortheabcseriesfrm29.showMes sage?topicID=354.topic)

Dante would blanch at the discussion!

[cinderellabop]

Thank you, drabauer.

17 threads... unbelievable! :eek

[Lost at sea]

Not more purgatory?!?!? They aren't in purgatory, Claire is about to have a baby, so there is reason number 1. And the painting didn't say hell it said HELLO.

[morbius47]

I've been waiting for another Purgatory thread to pop up before I knew what I am about to say is right... now there can be no doubt...

The survivors aren't in Purgatory, we are. Every new purgatory thread is further proof. We have all died in our sins, and judging by the overwhelming amounts of purgatory threads we are subjected to, we were all very bad people. If any of you living see this, please, pray for our souls and get us out of here!

[drabauer]

Every new purgatory thread is further proof. We have all died in our sins, and judging by the overwhelming amounts of purgatory threads we are subjected to, we were all very bad people. If any of you living see this, please, pray for our souls and get us out of here!

LMAO morbius, you get the understatement of the season award:
http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~abauer/images/herald2_low.gif

[JacksGirlfriend]

You know... not to beat a dead horse, put there could be a little twist in this. Purgatory does not have to be an actual physical place inhabited by the dead. It could be a spiritual place where the soul is searching for the right path.

From what I've seen, all of these characters are struggling with inner demons. They may not have done enough wrong in life to condemn them to personal hell but they have not achieved redemption in their own eyes. Perhaps each has assigned himself to a spiritual "purgatory" until he/she can find what their soul needs.

I'm pretty sure I've brought up these points before, but I'm ready for the Boone beating now.

JacksGirl

[gscaleta]

I'm with JG. There is some sort of inner struggle going on and I think we are going to find Rose to be the devil and Sceve to be god!!

[DHARMA]

Could an admin please 'thumb tack' an "ATTENTION: Purgatory has been discussed ad nauseum" and add drabauers links?

[morbius47]

Sceve is god?!?!

GS, you are going straight to hell, bypass purgatory altogether. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.00.

[gscaleta]

Could someone please thumb tack my apology thread so every time I insult people that want to stop discussing purgatory threads I can easily find a place to say sorry.

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[cinderellabop]

Boone-style beatings for you, GS, for that last post! Sorry... I know you apologized, but I'm afraid I cannot spare you for this one. But, hey, we'll also beat Boone afterwards, just because.

JacksGirl, actually, I don't have a problem with the theme of a figurative purgatory. In a way, yes, they are. It's the "they're all dead" part that I don't like about it! The idea that they are in a place where they are faced with their sins and their mistakes and learn to change from them and become better people seems pretty clear. This is what is happening. I just don't like the idea that they are actually in purgatory and that they are dead, because there is no point in watching them struggle to survive if they are already dead. It will feel as though we have been cheated, because we worried about who will live and who will die, who will get together, and so on, when in reality, none of it mattered.

And of course, the other problem with the purgatory theory is the sheer number of threads posted on the subject, which new members never seem to bother looking for when they post the theory. If there are 17 threads mentioning it (and I'm assuming that doesn't even count this one), surely it wouldn't be hard for someone to find one, rather than posting it like it's a "totally new, never discussed, utterly original" idea.

[gscaleta]

Cinder if this is in all your posts -- "We kinda treat life like a bug on the sidewalk. All we see is a bug, not a miracle. And no matter what we do, we usually just end up steppping on it, instead of taking it into our hands." --Broots, The Pretender

Then how can you endorse the beating of someone??

BE THE MIRACLE CINDER

[cinderellabop]

Hey, I didn't say we'd kill you. Just beat you up a little. You'll live.:p

[morbius47]

What's all this talk of Purgatory about anyway? So, we have different views as to what may be happening on the island. And, so what that some of us can't post an original thought, or confine our ramblings on pre-existing threads? Who cares that some of us are intolerant of others short comings (not a slam gs) and beliefs?

We should all STOP this nonsense, and focus on the one thing we can all agree on, that beatings of Boone make for great television. Whether he is dead, alive, or in between, we all know that a good weekly Boone beating is all that matters. Continue the beatings and spread the love.

Please post your thoughts and ideas for new creative ways to beat Boone in the Boone Beating poll in the polls forum.

[cinderellabop]

All these people need to do is check the theories index, tacked at the top of this board, to find a Purgatory thread, any Purgatory therad, and post in that one, instead of wasting space and costing Xander extra money. I'm only doing it for Xander!

Well, OK, I'm also doing it because the constant Purgatory threads are getting really annoying. Ultimately, though, it's for the good of the board that we STOP new threads on the subject.

[gscaleta]

Cinder not for nothing but all these stop purgatory threads and posts are just as annoying and at this point probably costing more.

Yes I'm going to apologize - well maybe. Um no I'm not. I'm standing my ground and I'm thinking if I get a spanking by you for it then all is good!!

MORE CINDER SPANKINGS!!

[cinderellabop]

Well, no, actually, because the STOP message goes into the signature, and is part of a post on another topic, so it really doesn't count. Plus, anyone who is a member and is an EZ Supporter (like myself) doesn't count anyway. Xander doesn't have to pay for our posts, we do. Most new purgatory threads are started by new members, most of who are not EZ Supporters.

OK, a spanking for you, then! But you should know, I don't give them myself. My very large bodyguard Brutus does the deed for me. Still want to play?

[gscaleta]

Oh well then as an EZ supporter myself I don't mind continuing my more purg posts. As for the beatings if you are not and brutus is then I'm sure Morbius is up for it.

[morbius47]

GS - all I can say is ... ew.

[edens demise]

Okay, let me see if I've got this...

We are in purgatory, Sceve is god and he is going to beat and spank Boone while brutus watches???

Is that right?

[gscaleta]

No morbius is being spanked by Brutus (and loving it). Rose is the devil and Sceve is god. Cinder is running around the island beating everyone - starting with Boone.

[Wynter Zera]

We should all STOP this nonsense, and focus on the one thing we can all agree on, that beatings of Boone make for great television. Whether he is dead, alive, or in between, we all know that a good weekly Boone beating is all that matters. Continue the beatings and spread the love.

Yes, morbius76 you are absolutly right. Would anyone like to borrow my "Big Stick" (TM)?

Purgatory is a dead horse. Please folks, do a basic search if you want to post about it as there are plenty of preexisting threads. Search function is your friend.

[MaisterPup]

Clearly, the term "Purgatory" is actually an anagram for what's really going on.

Let's give it A GROUP TRY, why don't we...

PURRY GATO (or should that be PURRY TOGA?)
U R GOY PRAT

And my personal favourite:

TARRY, O PUG!

[Wynter Zera]

Pury Gator?

[cinderellabop]

TARRY, O PUG!

That's it! That's the key! It all ties in to Vincent's mysterious backstory involving his mother and a mysterious pug... I always knew Vincent was the key character in Lost!

[JacksGirlfriend]

I just don't like the idea that they are actually in purgatory and that they are dead, because there is no point in watching them struggle to survive if they are already dead. It will feel as though we have been cheated, because we worried about who will live and who will die, who will get together, and so on, when in reality, none of it mattered.

Bop: I have said this same thing so many times I've lost count.

JacksGirl

[Chance Gardener]

um....

why not simply move this thread to one of the original P-threads?

[SecretSquirrel911]

End the madness! STOP THIS.....PLEASE!!!!


THEY ARE ALIVE...YES, THEY ARE!

[Suil Liath]

stopping the madness now. Locking thread.