What would ruin it for you? [Archive]

Bungarian

10-15-04, 07:49 PM

If the whole thing is explained as being normal happenings in the end I would hate it.

I also would hate it if the whole thing is a dream.

What would ruin the whole thing for you?

What would be the best happening for you?

I think the best for me would be that somehow they traveled thru a portal to another Earth like planet. They discover they are the only humans on this planet and cannot go home. That would set up some very good episodes I think.

Abraxas

10-15-04, 07:58 PM

A normal explanation would be fine as long as it seems mysterious on the way. We experience that up to the point we are at. First, Locke looks like some strange guy, well, because he is, but he is just a guy and nothing more.
Who knows what the "monster" will turn out to be.

The "dream" theory would totally ruin the show for me. And I'm not particularly fond of religious tie-ins or really crazy alien stuff.

16L43

10-15-04, 08:16 PM

The absolute worst for me would be if they turned it into a "who's gonna' buy it, this week?" series. Losing a character, here or there, due to accident or to the creature, I wouldn't mind but having a wholesale slaughter-fest would dis-interest me, completely...

Second worst for me would be to find out "Lost" was taking place in Locke's imagination or that one of the other characters had dreamed it all (ala Pam Ewing in "Dallas") while waiting for their end as the plane breaks up...

Third worst for me would be the government setting the entire thing up and implanting memories of the plane crash in their minds as a cover story. I didn't buy "The Manchurian Candidate" (the original one, not the inferior remake) then and I ain't buying it now...

Fourth worst would be there's someone aboard the flight that makes the rest of the passengers and crew expendible so the destruction of the flight was a government action...

JacksGirlfriend

10-15-04, 10:02 PM

I don't want government conspiracy; I don't want a dream or a coma. And I certainly don't want them to be dead.

I want an explanation that could probably include a great many of the theories we've already proposed. I want a rip in time and space. I want this to be a world that may or may not be on our planet. I want strange things from thousands of years of collection and want to see them deal with each new mystery and discovery. In the end I want them to have accepted they are part of this new world and perhaps be the welcoming for another stunned group of survivors.

JacksGirl

yung23

10-15-04, 10:56 PM

Yes ! I want a real island, I WILL accept a rip in space due to A Unified Field Theory, whats the name ? like experiment..
I didn't think I would at first, I was expecting a "tom hanks castaway" kind of show. Real, I didn't expect the monster, but Man did they peak my interest, ESPECIALLY when I learned it wasn't a dinosaur..and it is a real show, I think that is the most important thing for me, I always want to believe it.
I want a natural island, with lots of different wildlife, if it is another earth, or back in time on our own, say the opposite polar space on the northern hemisphere, back in mammoth days...
Where would that be if our island mirrored itself on earth ?

I want that feeling i got when i saw, sorry, Jurassic Park, remember the shot of all the different dinosaurs ?.. Now think Ice age, or another world, like that outer limits episode...

Know the one I mean, the message ? I think... an astronaut somehow landed on another world, he was in the ocena at first but when morning came, although done badly, it was another world ! It has never been done by someone as the likes of JJ.Abrams and co. DONT GIVE UP !

DONT CHEESE OUT.. NO MORE FEAR MANIFESTATIONS !

I will however accept a more syncronicity like explaination.. if you dare go there.. It appears you've gone "Hawking" with the public, will you go "Jung" too ?

Were there polar bears back 15, 000 years ?

JacksGirlfriend

10-15-04, 11:02 PM

Yung - I think polar bears have been around at least 100,000 years, possibly longer.

The experiment is "The Philadelphia Experiment".

It sounds like we might want similar things. Here's hoping.

JacksGirl

yung23

10-15-04, 11:32 PM

I mean the actual scientific name of the experiment done, what kind of field, I know electromagnetic too.. it's chromatic something...

theghostofwalt

10-16-04, 02:49 AM

as long as its not aliens or dinosaurs then im good.

Nift

10-16-04, 04:55 AM

I'm all about not seeing dinosours, UFOs, or a big dream. I also don't want to see the dragged out for eternity either.

A time warp thing would be interesting, although I don't see that playing into this. Too much sci-fi and I'm losing interest real fast.

Barbara1969

10-16-04, 05:20 AM

If it turns out that this whole thing was a drug-induced hallucination in Charlie's mind, I'm leaving.

Klang007

10-16-04, 06:18 AM

if it's been discussed in this board, I'm going to be disappointed. It's just the fact that I'll be anticipating such things, and if it does indeed turn out to be a philedelphia exp/purgatory/time warp/space warp/fear manisfetation/big dream...I'll be severely disappointed. It's weird...if none of that were discussed here and it turns out as such, I won't mind. But the mere fact that the theory is in my mind that ruins it.

So...surprise me!

Sleeestack

10-16-04, 02:10 PM

Man, I would be really bummed if at the end of the 6th season a big ship pulled into Lost Harbor, and suddenly the cast and crew broke into the following song:

Love, exciting and new...
Come aboard, we're expecting you!
Love, as sweet as can be,
We have chicks for you all...
Even Huuuuuurly!

The Love Boat, soon will be taking another ride,
We'll get Sawyer some, we gotta harem for Sayid!

Love, for single mom's too,
So Claire your in luck
(we have the other white shoe!)
it floats back to you.

Love, life's sweetest reward.
Let it flow to Walt's Dad
Sun lose the Jin
hook up with Mike
just cut that cord!

The Love Boat..........
soon will be making another run.
The Love Boat
promises something for everyone.

Set a course for adventure
Your mind on a new romance......

Forget Helen, we have a retired porn star for
That sweet bald former crip named Locke
They'll have "Do Not Disturb" on their door
when its time to Dock!

Hey Invisable Monster--Love won't hurt anymore
We'll hook you up with a female yeti
--and candle lit dinner with spaghetti too
(Lower in cholesteral than chubby pilots)

Hey Abraxas!--Love's an open smile
on Lost's friendly shore!

And Jack, ya know, Kate aint too bright
We have your girl on our boat,
from Lost's Unofficial site!

Oh Love, its delicious rapport,
We have real food here,
forget the indigenous pork!

We have Cap't Pinnerman
and First Mate Max to guide ya
But look out for AztecLady and the Flyman, A-Dubya!!!

Master Xan the Bartender, will pour us our booze
Mr. Rourke and Taboo, will join our cruise!
Holly and Chaka will do the Lombada on the dance floor!

Einstein, that Lover of Fate
will map the equation for the Unified Theory
After bedding Kate!

It's Looooove!
Welcome aboard - It's Looooove!

newtype

10-16-04, 04:50 PM

Hi there everybody!

I hope there is much mystery for 2 Season or 3 perhaps. And then in the last Episode of Season 2 (or 3) it turns out it was a DREAM. But wait, hear my idea.

A Dream which is dreamed by one of the "Losts" AFTER he/she awakes from 1-2 Days of COMA where she/he got AFTER the Plane chrashed on the ISLAND!

He/She tells the "Losts" everything about the time and the "discovers" they made in her/his dream, what is for us of course the things we see happen in Season 1,2,(3) Also he/she tells about the People who "died" in her/his dream and how they do.

last Scene of last Episode Season 2 (or 3)

After He/She tolds everybody, everything, they all are shocked because all of the things of the first days which he/she has explained had happened EXACTLY SO! (The Crash,the Dead....) But he/she was in Coma or not? How do she/he know???

But they did not see "Monsters" yet. And then there are suddenly huge shadows jumping into the Camp and the scene fade to black.

To be Continue in season 3 (or 4)...

JacksGirlfriend

10-16-04, 06:07 PM

Sleeestack - you are definitely in the wrong profession. Do any stand up in your spare time?

JacksGirl

yung23

10-16-04, 07:47 PM

Above all, I thik I want a real monster, not a representation of underlying fears... I want them all to see the same damn thing

Sleeestack

10-17-04, 04:17 AM

Sleeestack - you are definitely in the wrong profession. Do any stand up in your spare time

I sell shoes (Used "Pay-Less"--I got fired from K-Mart). And, when I am not selling shoes, or watching old X-Files episodes, I am listening to Abba. I do not have time for comedic endeavors due to my hectic and ambitious schedule. I am reaching for the brass ring baby.

My life is fulfilled, and serenity is mine. I am also 14 years old, but through the use of Botox and tanning beds (and breast implants), I am able to pass for drinking age. Think of me as a cross between a young George Clooney and Shrek.

Lately, I have been substituting my new 'Lost' Hobby for Abba. You must realize the severity of this new diversion, as I consider 'Voulez Vous' and 'Super Trooper' to be spiritually enlightening in terms of the lyrics. The Song "Angel Eyes" makes me teary in its remarkable prose, temerity, and Puritan harmonies.

With regard to Lost though, I figure, until I get some definitive clues as to the mysteries, I can at least share my love for poetry and cool music with my peers on this board. I probably annoy some people. But, my art is worth the consequences. No pain, no gain.

My new goal is to beat your post count in the next 20 minutes. You are the glue that holds us Lost fans together (at least that part is sincere).

Anyone who thinks I am funny, likes Def Leppard, and drinks whiskey, and is not opposed to Goth-Vampiress dress, is cool in my book!

More importantly from all this nonsense, is where the hell is the Pinman and Maximus?

I need some good sound logic and research links. Aztechick, you are morphing into the new Pinman. I enjoy your posts.

I gotta go now. I have a DVD to watch (Englebert Humperdink Live in Demoine) and a pizza to eat.

Peace out.

p.s. I would still like a FAQ and a topographic map.

JacksGirlfriend

10-17-04, 01:22 PM

Sleeestack: You have to watch out for ABBA. I'm sure there are subliminal messages in their songs. Listening to them too much might cause a break from reality. I know when I hear Dancing Queen too many times, I drink too much and everyone in the bar starts to look way too tempting. The song seems to take away self control.

If you like Englebert Humperdinck perhaps you're ready to move on to Neil Diamond - now there's a man that can take away your self-control and wrap you in a blanket of complacency.

I too am waiting with eager anticipation for the return of Pinnerman and Max. They seem to be waaay too involved in their "real lives". Don't they care about us at all? They're starting to tease us with small little posts then they vanish like the Lone Ranger (or maybe Power Rangers).

I still want the map and FAQs too.

Thanks for the nice words - if we ever meet, I'll be the one dressed in black.

JacksGirl

azteclady

10-17-04, 03:45 PM

Okay, I'll bite.

You too are only 14???? (check very_lost_indeed's posts on the 'physics of the plane crash' thread - remarkable!)

So if you are, my faith in humanity is being restored in a BIG HURRY!

Cool! :D

Beto
-honored to be put in the same group with pinnerman (thanks, Sleeestack!)
-missing maxpublic and pinnerman too
-waiting for someone to post the topographic map of the island
-voting for the mods to pin the 'beginnings of the FAQ' thread at the top of the board

JacksGirlfriend

10-17-04, 03:59 PM

I don't think Sleeestack is 14 - I think he's trying to get chicks. Very Lost Indeed has a new fan club and Sleeestack's trying to capitalize on it. (Cagey move, by the way.)

George Clooney and Shrek? Interesting combination... very sexy. So if we meet, I should look for the handsome green man? Or should I look for the ugly man with great hair and smile? Either one is good.

JacksGirl

Sleeestack

10-17-04, 04:32 PM

I confess--I am not 14.... Aint gunning for the babes either, although I never look a gift horse in the mouth!

Shrek/Clooney: Short, stubby, pea green complexion, thick luxurious black back hair, huge ears that look like little trumpets... Sheist hey, I could be the invisible monster.

JJ, we know you read these threads---PM me a casting call notice. My audition will blow you away. PLUS, I can get you a great deal on synthetic leather, square-toed, ankle-length, zipper boots. They are all the rage now and on the freaken bleeding edge of fashion.

Envy me board junkies, Sleeestack's goin' to Hawaii!

JacksGirlfriend

10-17-04, 04:39 PM

Gosh - you sound positively dreamy... the answer to every woman's fantasy.

JacksGirl

Sleeestack

10-17-04, 04:45 PM

azteclady

10-17-04, 04:47 PM

Again...

EZboard has developed a taste for my posts...

Or the Universe is trying to make me see that I don't belong here...

Or I'm just plain dumb (the most likely, I'm sure)

anyway:

My answer to the question would be that I want the explanations for all the things happening here to be self-consistent with the 'reality' of the island.

Beto
sinking...

JacksGirlfriend

10-17-04, 04:54 PM

Sleeestack: I see you've already moved onto Neil. We're in trouble now.

JacksGirl

Sleeestack: What happened to your last post? There were song lyrics there.

Sleeestack

10-18-04, 02:22 PM

Alright JG (or should I say, "Buffy")--one quick Neil fix, but that's it then. I will post no more song parodies until Pinman posts. WARNING: This might contain some spoilage.

Plane on the Rocks, by Kneel Diemond

Plane on the rocks
Ain't no surprise
(Damn French nuclear magnetics)
Just pour me a drink, b&#tch
And Kate will tell you some lies
Have nothin' to lose (Except Hurly's weight)
So you just sing the blues all the time

Gave Kate my heart
Gave Sayid my cell
Australian Airlines left me alone here
With passenger corpses turning to mold
Yesterday's gone
Now all I want is a smile, a boat, and a Papa John's Pizza

At first, the monster wants to eat you
It really needs to eat you
Suddenly you find you're out there
Hiking up a cliff in a storm getting attacked by a friggen polar bear

And then the Island knows it has you
Then it really has you
Nothing you can do or say
You can't leave, can't get away
We all know the Hotel California song
(Damn our own device!--I hate it)-- Love Locke's steely knifes!

You need what you need
You can say what you want
Not much you can do
When the water and food is gone
May be blue skies above now
But it'll rain hard, if Walt gets pissed, or if there is a storm in the spanish version of the Green Lantern Comic Book.

Yep, that Gaddamn plane's on the rocks (not the black ones)
Ain't no big surprise
Just pour me a drink of coconut milk Hurly
I swear to friggen god--this is the last time I fly the friendly skies
Yesterday's gone
And soon, a shipshape French chick suffering delusions and menapausal hot flashes will be baking us coconut cream pies,

And now all I want is JJ to tighten up the plot with a little more substance and secrets revealed in the context of believable psuedo-science, with a dash of Land of the Lost, and a smidgen of the X-Files, perhaps even a tiny flavor of Raiders of the Lost Ark stuff too, for example, Ark of the Covenant, or some psuedo-religious stuff in the fashion of Chris Carter (creator of the X-Files) Millenium show which also starred Terry....

(Repeat Refrain)

JacksGirlfriend

10-18-04, 02:45 PM

Very well done. I could hear the melancholy tone, the sense of loss...

Does everyone go away for the weekend around here? Everyone except me? Some of our "scientist types" seem to drop off the face of the earth when the weekend comes. What's up with that? Don't they even want to check in on us? Clearly we run amok when we're not supervised. I need someone to make me focus.

I didn't burn out one brain cell over the weekend (except for the split second I walked in on that math group - yikes! - that was scary).

JacksGirl (in her past life a Vampire Slayer)

Rene

10-18-04, 06:55 PM

I agree with Klang... Surprise me. If it's been done before I will be very disappointed

cccourt

10-18-04, 07:44 PM

So?? The query is: what would make this show jump the shark...for each of us.

Hmmmmmmmmmm........if it is a celebrity survivor show hosted by Jeff Probst.

Or.......if Sayid is killed off.

Or....if it goes into a fourth or fifth season. This plot cannot last over three. I don't care how many seasons they need for reruns.

Or...if people start materialising on the island. In person, not in a hallucinatory state.

I know there are others....we can follow this on jumptheshark.com
ccc:hat

angry may queen

10-19-04, 03:37 PM

I would be bummed if it turned out to be overly religious. For instance, God made them sit where they did on the plane so they could survive, and evaluate their lives and have an epiphany as to just how precious they are. GAG. :o

I would also be disgusted if it turns out to be sort-of like The Village (the stupid M. Night Shama-lama-ding-dong movie). I would hate it if the French people (if there are more than one) set up some kind of freak-show society where, in order to "survive", they became paranoid felt threatened constantly and thus try to keep others out by scaring any newcomers to the island in some inane and improbable way (rubber evil hedgehog suits). :rolleyes

Sleeestack

10-19-04, 04:10 PM

Gee Thanks Queen... I hadn't seen the movie yet. There goes the twist...:\

angry may queen

10-19-04, 04:20 PM

D'oh. Sorry. :( You didn't miss anything great, trust me.

Some "twist." The entire movie was an extended, weak Twilight Zone epidose.

MQ

cccourt

10-19-04, 05:25 PM

DriftWood

10-19-04, 05:37 PM

What would ruin it for me? If the druggie decided to put together a new band on the island and they all put on a show.

Enchirito

10-19-04, 06:25 PM

Before most of you were born, there was a character on DALLAS who wanted out of his contract. Outside TVland he discovered he had no career....and wanted back on the show. The writers started the NEXT season with the guy and his wife in the shower....and they explained the season before (without him) as a "dream sequence." Weak....very weak. That would just about do it as well!!
A similar ending was used as the explaination of the Family Guy episode "Da Boom!" What an totally absurd way to explain it. If JJ treats us loyal veiwers like, that my "TV shows I watch" list will drop from 1 to 0.

16L43

10-19-04, 09:52 PM

Patrick Duffy was the actors name...I remember the episode well...unfortunately!:\

JacksGirlfriend

10-19-04, 10:42 PM

But if I recall Patrick Duffy made a rare guest appearance on South Park. Wasn't he the leg on the Skuzzlebutt? That was his finest performance ever.

JacksGirl

cccourt

10-19-04, 10:48 PM

I just thought of something else which would ruin it.

What if there is a little grey haired man, behind a curtain, with a machine making all those noises...and manipulating robotic machinery? A 21st wizard of Oz if you will.

JacksGirlfriend

10-19-04, 11:13 PM

cc: I'll take that over a dream sequence.

JacksGirl

Stu1961

10-20-04, 12:06 AM

Hmmmm, perhaps if:
Sawyer starts yearning for coconut creme pies;
Sayid turns the transceiver remnants into a transistor radio;
Boone starts referring to Shannon as "Lovey";
the island is repeatedly visited by "Wrongway Feldman";
Kate spills her perfume and is abducted by the island monster;
Charlie is actually one of "The Mosquitoes" (Bango?);
They find the worlds rarest butterfly, a Pussycat Swallowtail;
Jack finds a crate of radioactive vegetable seeds ... ;
Sun & Jin are actually Kupaki headhunters;
or if there's any visit from the Harlem Globetrotters.

http://www.tvtome.com/images/shows/0/5/99-12215-sm.jpg

Should be at least three seasons until the decaying Russian satellite crashes onto the island:rollin

Enchirito

10-20-04, 03:03 AM

Cartman: Yeh, and he walks with a limp. Because one of his legs is missing. And where his leg should be, there's nothing but...Patrick Duffy.

Kyle: Patrick Duffy, damn it Cartman, that's not scary.

Cartman: What do you mean? Have you ever seen Step By Step?
Hmm, so if JJ is going to stun us of all with a crappy Dallas style ending he will have to bring in Patrick Duffy to gust star! We may have just unwittingly unraveled JJ's biggest secret of all! :rollin

jprez98

10-20-04, 04:21 AM

Sorry, I've been out of the loop for a week. Haven't read the boards since Wednesday morning (and it's 11:00 Tuesday night!). I figured it would be good to absorb as much of the boards as I can before everyone comes pouring on after the show airs tomorrow night.

I, like so many others, don't want to show to end up as a dream or a dinosaur (thank goodness it won't be) or anything like that.

I don't usually visit the theories board, because, honestly they are usually either over my head or to weird for me to follow (in my humble opinion).

Sleeestack, I will say you have one heck of a talent. I loved the songs. Keep it up!

-Jen

Beckers1

10-20-04, 04:27 AM

If the show becomes a soap opera. :x

*Claire is actually Shannon and Boone's sister.
*Helen (Locke's phone call pal) was actually Walt's mom who died.
*Michael and Sun have an affair and she spend 9 months wondering if her child will look like Jin ...
*Hurely becomes bulimic.
*Charley's drug problem escalates to the point where he runs naked and wild in the jungle (well some of his fans probably wouldn't mind ...)
*Claire has her baby in an elevator ... ;)

16L43

10-20-04, 04:29 AM

Your wit is as good as it is on "The Lost World" board, Beckers...:lol

Beckers1

10-20-04, 04:45 AM

Okay .... who are you? :D

16L43

10-20-04, 04:50 AM

Martin here. Shoulda' said something with my previous post!:)

maxpublic

10-20-04, 09:11 AM

and is not opposed to Goth-Vampiress dress, is cool in my book!

Heck, back in the day me and my friends *invented* what you whippersnappers call 'goth'. Only back then we weren't called 'goth', but rather 'those damned punks'.

Ah, those were the days! Piercings, black leather, horrible make-up jobs, and sharp studded objects on arms, legs, necks, and other things! Ushering in punk rock like a bunch of badly-dressed zombies on crack! "Rocky Horror" was our bible, put to film!

Nowadays, all I have to say is: "where the hell are my teeth?"

Max

Laurabegorrah

10-20-04, 03:44 PM

I think I'd be a bit pissed if everything was a dream or a fantasy of someone's. >:

I'm all for some realistic explanations - as long as it keeps me guessing until the reveal (as has been mentioned before)

I'm also willing to go out on a limb for some crazy, wacky, cooky SciFi stuff. 0]

Don't turn this into "Touched by and Angel" or "Highway to Heaven" - that will be vomit inducing!

Sleeestack

10-20-04, 04:37 PM

Heck, back in the day me and my friends *invented* what you whippersnappers call 'goth'. Only back then we weren't called 'goth', but rather 'those damned punks'.

Max, they had "Punks" in the days of Socrates? Who'd a thunk?

cccourt

10-20-04, 04:57 PM

give us a reference here??!!

cccourt

10-20-04, 09:47 PM

...as I am preparing my pod for watching the night's episode...I was thinking, "this better not be Stephen King kinda scary". First time I realized it is his plot for The Stand. Oh my...now I am in a quandry. In the beginning of the forum, King was mentioned. Now I am realizing it is the same story...each one has a different story...each one a reason for survival. Oh..pish!

yung23

10-21-04, 02:49 AM

Well, it appears they may ruin it. I beleive its nothing more than Sphere, event horizon and a thousand other sci-fi stories about redemption..the monster will be different for everyone, if you have demons, you die, if you confront your demons, you live... of course filled with LOTS of commercials, character development, twists, turns, you'll laugh, you'll cry stuff...
MAN, I WANTED ONE MONSTER, THE SAME FOR EVERYONE.
SPEUDO-SCIENCE, WHERE ?

what channel is SMALLVILLE on ?

not just yet of course... JJ. switch it !! Quick you can save it !

BJLK

10-21-04, 03:22 AM

I almost didn't read this thread because it had gotten a bit long, but hoooooooboy am I glad I did. You guys have me in stitches!!!!!!!

Vampire????????? OH YEAH!!!!!!

Changing lyrics to songs.........Brilliant!!!!!
TOOOOOO Funny!!!!:rollin

I have to agree with several opinions:
My number one bummer would be the Love Boat entering Lost Harbor.
2) Religious mumbo jumbo
3) A dream
4) Whacky sci-fi stuff, although I LOVE a good sci-fi story, this isn't the right venue.

cwipperman

10-21-04, 12:27 PM

I personally would have a problem if there was ANY sort of supernatural explanation for anything that has happened. People hallucinate - and I think that is what Jack was doing when he saw his father. Sure.... I guess if you're paralized - a trauma could theoretically bring your legs back.

But if it turns out that there is some sort of Parallel dimension, wormhole, time ribbon, monster, or "force" on the island - then I will immediately switch the show off. I love the show - but I don't do "sci-fi". I don't think they have in any way advertised this as a "sci-fi" show - and so I think to take it that direction would greatly lower the shows credibility with many viewers. I mean.... there will always be a segment of society that won't watch the x-files or star trek - because it's just not they type of show they like.

It is encouraging for me to see that it seems like the producers are hinting that everything that will happen - will be something that could occur "naturally". I almost think that ads more suspense - when you see something amazing happen - and then throught the episode - the way it is able to happen is slowly revealed (similar to the way Locke's "miracle" was revealed).

Anyway... that's me... no sci-fi explanations.

maxpublic

10-21-04, 05:41 PM

I'll accept them crossing through some science-fantasy rip to crash on an alternate Earth, but everything after that point better bloody well be firmly grounded in reality. If anything remotely supernatural takes place on this show then they'll have 'lost' me as a viewer. There's enough clap-trap of that nature on TV without having to add yet another series to the mix of the bizarre.

There's a difference between having an open mind, and having a mind that's so open your brain falls out onto the floor.

Max