Shannon: Pure Evil

[Latin Protoss]

Shannon....she is pure evil....She cares about none other than herself. I don't why the monster doesn't just eat her. She acts like she's a super-star or something. She is so....I hate her. She's EVIL :evil . Never trust fashion gurus when you're stranded

[devenish]

lol thats a funny post , but yea its tru shannon is bad, and to think I actually considered her a possible luv interest for hott sayid, god what was i thinkin

[charliebutter]

ya...Boone doesnt act like that at all so were does she get it from? haha

[elizabethalcazar]

not to start a fight with anyone, but this thread is for people who are fans of shannon, not to bash her.

she is definitely not 'pure evil'. she's a spoiled brat, and while i'm not saying it's not her fault she's that way, we don't know what's happened to her in her life to bring her to this point.

i think if this were a real situation, far fewer people would have the hero complexes that jack and kate, and "Boone, God's Friggin' Gift to Humanity" (Dan Kwa, TWOP) have got going on. She's scared and she's lashing out, which makes her HUMAN.

in other words, don't judge a book by its cover.

[KawaiiGrrl 17]

Yeah, she is really rude. You'd think she'd be a little nicer after her asthma attack! Maybe they should never find the inhalers.

[Vicki]

I love Shannon...her character is so fun and interesting, it would suck if everyone there got along like Pleasantville or whatever. ;)

Not everyone has to be goody goody, thats what makes an interesting character. Shannon's been TONS better than Sawyer has and I don't see anyone calling him pure evil either.

[azteclady]

Ah, Vicki! *chuckle* You haven't been reading the same threads I have then!

For let me tell you, there's plenty of Sawyer-bashing all over the place.

With that said: I still don't like Shannon, but at least we are starting to see behind the bitch façade, and that is always a good thing.


Beto
equal opportunity character basher
member of STOP - Society To Oust Purgatory (theories)

[Vicki]

Haha really? I don't think I've ever seen any thread saying that Sawyer is pure evil or even close. Mostly because I noticed the majority of people love that bad boy act that I find tiring/irritating after awhile...so they don't see him in an evil light.

[Laitaine111889]

Evil?

Wow, I consider that a pretty strong choice of words there. At this moment in time, I really don't consider the 'Monster' evil, the Island evil, or even the 'others' evil. It goes with the saying that good is in the eyes of the beholder.

So, Shannon, (in reference to John Locke's essay to the human condition) is a product of her surroundings. I've heard somewhere that she was incredibly rich and such, therefore not at all used to eveything that's happening on the island.

Seriously, how well would all of us cope after surviving a Plan Crash, translating a seriously disturbing distress call, having people with different histories and backgrounds, and having monsters and Polar Bears chase you all at once.

At least she went on the trek for the distress beacon, even if it was to prove something to Boone. She even caught a fish, however twisted she did so.

So, while in your opinion and the enviornment that you grew-up in you may think she is pure evil, I would go and say that the wording a little strong. There are tonnes of people who are fans, and there are people who are less than friendly towards the character. In my opinion, she's needed. Not everyone can be able to rough it as well as Jack, Kate, and Locke seem to be doing.

[Yellu]

I don't want to come off as rude, but I think some of you should calm down.

I for one, beleive that if a character is fiction... Then praise them, call the pure evil, whatever. Just as long as no one bashes other peoples' opinion on the subject. Remember, Shannon is fake, she doesn't exist. Let's not get too worked up and get hurt feelings, okay?



Tanya

[Yellu]

Oh, and I'm sorry. I didn't mean you Laitaine111889.






Tanya

[devenish]

Yea Sawyer's bad but no , they dont really call him pure evil in fact thats what the lady's luv, but on the other hand shannon is bratty and all that stuff, and no one likes her lol hmmmm..., yup they luv the bad boy but not the brat girl

[chrisberni]

I think it's that sense of entitlement that Shannon has... which Sawyer lacks. Also, Sawyer just tells it like it is (or how he sees it), while Shannon seems much more sneaky to me.

I wouldn't call her pure evil though. It will be very interesting to see hers and Boone's flashback episode.

[prydain15]

I don't think she's evil. Just spoiled...and we don't know her backstory so don't go saying she's evil just yet...

[Claire]

She's evil & spoiled. :x

[southernhottness69]

she is a slutty biatch

[klumsyboy]

u ladies are just jealous she is so hot and sexy esp. with her trashy makeup in in one of the episodes.

[Yellu]

Hey now; klumsyboy.. Let's not get personal.

And hey, she's just a character.. Fiction. Just letting them out, so you guys don't get too heated.



Tanya

[iHEARTcharlie]

yea shannon is way evil

she can burn for all i care...she made poor boones (:( ) life miserable...

god i hate her >:

[Fes03]

I like Shannon. :) She may be a brat and whining all the time but I just find it humorous. Every show needs a spoiled lil' rich girl. Besides, she's showing a whole different person when she's with Sayid. But I agree with whoever said we shouldn't judge a book by its cover. I can't wait to see the episode when we see Shannon's story.

[Sarge Clayton]

I like Shannon very much. Someone said that this thread is for fans and he's right!

[ThatHippieKid]

I used to think Shannon=:evil but I've changed my mind. I rather like her now.

[Yellu]

I'm not being grouchy; but I love hearing these type of things.... What changed your mind ThatHippieKid?



Tanya

[ThatHippieKid]

Well... I'm not completely sure when it happened, but I think it was in ...In Translation, when she wanted her new life on the island... I realized that even a self centered bitch (pardon my french ;) ) like her could regret things and want to start over. I like the "new" Shannon.

[LostInWilderness]

Shannon is too selfish to be evil. She's hot enough though.

[DohBoy]

Time to resurrect the Shannon Is Evil thread:

See? She tried to USE Sayid. "Locke killed my brother. Will you do something about it?" Said all sweet-like with those puppy-dog eyes.

And look what happens when he comes back empty-handed. Poor Sayid gets no love at all. He's the only one left on the island that cares anything about her!

Shannon's a user.

[Mattie]

HippieKid, your bandwidth ran out and now your avatar and sig are PhotoBucket ads. :(

This episode changed Shannon (even more) for me. She's really starting to grow on me. Don't mess this up, writers!

[cinderellabop]

Yes, Shannon tried to use Sayid, but I honestly think that is because she doesn't know how do do things for herself really. She's always relied on the "kindness of strangers," and doesn't really have the strength or the courage to do things for herself. I actually thought last nights' episode was a turning point for her, because she did attempt to take matters into her own hands, however misguided they were. She's got a lot of growing up to do, but I don't think she's bad.

[LadySTX]

I really didn't like Shannon at the begining, but she grewon me along with Boone. I thought they were just spolied rich kids. But i think it was "Hearts and Minds" when they showed how these two are as screwed up as the rest and that they honesty have some kinbd of emotion that i kinda sat back and went hmmm maybe they might be intresting after all. I have a great new respect for Shannon when she went to avenge Boone's death. Showed she just isn't thinking of herself anymore. "The Greater Good" showcased Shannon's real side and vunerability to loosing Boone.

[Mattie]

Cindy, I LOVE Lauren Graham.

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Shannon has grown on me to me one of my favorite characters...I hope in her next flashback episode we get to see a LOT more about her life and get sympathetic towards her. We need to feel sympathy for her...that's why almost everyone likes Locke. His 2 episodes had horrible things happen to him.

[cinderellabop]

Thanks, Matt! I like her, too... she's so good in Gilmore Girls. I have a number of avatar-sized pics that I was going to ask you to put into an animation, but stupid Photobucket isn't working for me right now! (Figures... I just paid for a full membership with them, so I'd have unlimited bandwidth.) I'll get back to you when I get home.
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About Shannon, I thought her actions in yesterday's show prove that she does have some inner strength that she didn't even know she had. I want to see more of that come out!

[Mattie]

About Shannon, I thought her actions in yesterday's show prove that she does have some inner strength that she didn't even know she had. I want to see more of that come out!

Exactly. Whether you think she was right or wrong to go after Locke, having the guts to do it was an amazing advancement in her character!

More, more!

[LostInWilderness]

I thought Shannon was her typical selfish self. She tried to get someone to do her selfish dirty work, and when Sayid didn't, she pulled a "Fine, I'll do it myself" routine. I think that's the same Shannon from day 1.

This interesting question is, how did Shannon track Locke? Was he at some location everyone knows? His private camp? I couldn't tell. Why did Locke allow her to get the drop on him? All of that was off-screen, and very odd.

[Mattie]

Maybe Shannon knows more than we know.

[DohBoy]

Maybe Shannon knows more than we know.

KF2, now that's an interesting thing to say.

Everybody on the island seems to have a secret. What's Shannon's? She has to be more than just a french-speaking blonde-hottie Boone-foil. Might she have some sixth-sense or supernatural power (a la Walt)?

Shannon was able to:
- slip into Jack's tent & steal the key from him in broad daylight (granted Jack was drugged at the time)
- find the hidden gun suitcase
- track & get the drop on Locke
- fire a gun (perhaps she even knew how to turn off the safety)

Perhaps Shannon *caused* Boone's death somehow, the same way Walt *caused* a bird to fly into the window. She was basically giving Boone a big slap in the face by cavorting with Sayid, a guy she knew Boone disapproved of.

The episode did do Shannon a big favor, though. I agree that she's more 3-D, even if she is just up to her same old tricks.

[azteclady]

I agree with LostInWilderness in this one instance - Shannon simply reverted to true form.

She wanted Sayid to 'do something' about Locke. Not to find out what had happened, but to kill Locke. And when Sayid tells her that he's convinced it was an accident, what is her reaction? "You just don't get it!"

She wants what she wants and is willing to manipulate people to get it - from her charming Charlie for the fish early on, to her seduction of Boone in Hearts and Minds, that's been her modus operandi all along. And as she has done earlier, when denied what she wants, her reaction is childish temper - remember why and how she decides to accompany the hiking party?

In this case, are we supposed to assume she's going after Locke with a gun out of love for Boone? Out of guilt even? I am not sure of either myself.

Personally, I cannot call such an irrational action character development. What did Shannon think the other survivors would do after her cold blooded murder of Locke? Because lets face it, for the group's survival, Locke is of much more immediate importance - he can hunt, Shannon can sunbathe.

[Mattie]

Shannon would never do anything for herself. Even though she asked Sayid to do it first...I think the fact that once she realized he wouldn't be doing it that she had the courage to steal the gun key and try to do it herself shows character development. Not necessarily positive development...

[LostInWilderness]

I want to go on record here. I think Kate took the key, opened the case, and gave Shannon the gun. I doubt this will every be proven, but I good with that.

[Mattie]

I think Kate took the key, opened the case, and gave Shannon the gun

They showed Shannon as the one opening the case and taking the gun. Remember?

[LostInWilderness]

KF2 writes:They showed Shannon as the one opening the case and taking the gun. Remember?
No I don't. I remember it being a woman, but I could not recognize her at the time. Maybe I'm mistaken; I haven't rewatched the episode.

[Mattie]

No I don't. I remember it being a woman, but I could not recognize her at the time. Maybe I'm mistaken; I haven't rewatched the episode.

Well I blame my OCD for watching the episode 3 times already. It's not my fault. :(

http://img260.echo.cx/img260/3621/capture1pk.th.jpg (http://img260.echo.cx/my.php?image=capture1pk.jpg)

[LostInWilderness]

It looks like Shannon in that cap for sure. Thanks to KF2 and his OCD. ;)

[Mattie]

It's not so bad. I'm like that dog from Doctor Dolittle.

[Dominic Love]

you never know...she could just be putting on an act.

guess well find out right ;)



i actually think shannon ROCKS.

<3

[elemmireq]

I know a lot of people dislike Boone, for some reason, but I feel that Shannon is WAY worse than him. I don't understand why most people can't stand it that Boone is whiny and a spoiled brat, I find Shannon exactly the same way.
Season 1 of Lost hasn't even finished in Singapore, it started late- right now it has just finished screening the Homecoming episode. I know how Boone's going to die and how Shannon avenges his death and all-that makes me feel at least that she isn't so bad, and that she cares about other people too besides herself.
I just don't get why everyone seems to prefer her over Boone.

[booneandshannonfan]

hey i come from singapore 2 but i moved 2 england. 2 b honest i only like shannon cuz shes fit :heartpump her personality is dam anoyin but i dont find anythin rong about boone just tht hes in love wit her

[Brian]

booneandshannonfan,

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[musical geek]

Shannon :( will be greatly missed because of her great remarks, a.k.a. "Craphole Island" and "Oh, I am not going to the rape caves!" :) Great stuff, right there! I had always liked her character after her remarks started coming out of her mouth. They were a great asset to the show other than Locke's "Don't tell me what to do" and Jack's "I married her!" and Sawyer's "Freckles..." and Kate's "It belonged to the man I loved!" and Sayid's "Bottle rockets!" and Charlie's "I'm a bloody rock god!" and Claire's "He tried to hurt my baby!" and Hurley's "The numbers are cursed, man." and Sun's "Yo-boh!" and english secrets and Jin's...uh...jibberesh and Michael's "WWWAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLTTTTTTTTT!" and Walt's weird scary whispers to Shannon and practically leading her to her death and Boone's "Who's blood is that?" and Steve's..no...Scott's....which ever's screaming from Ethan killing him and all those redshirts looking at all of them for help from all of these whackos!

Whew! *wipes sweat off forehead and drinks some water for her dry throat* That's a mouthfull and that's the main reason why she will be missed!

[anu]

Am I the only person who actually cheered when Shannon got shot? Not only was Ms. Grace an awful actor, her character wasn't the least bit interesting or useful. In her flashbacks we found out she was shallow and expected everyone else to take care of her. The "Oooh my cheques are bouncing, please mummy gimme moneys, I can't be expected to do anything for myself, yeah I've been irresponsible in the past but it's different now and you should trust me just 'cause I say so" act made me hate her character even more than I did before. Her character didn't develop one bit during the time on the island, all the time she was expecting someone else to do everything for her, until she finally took up the whole "I'll go after Walt myself with this labrador cause no one believes me and won't do it for me" martyr act and got killed.

The writers made my day. Not only does this mean no more Shannon, it also means no more "pretty-boy-with-no-acting-skills" Boone. Now all we need is to get rid of AnaL, Claire and Jack.

[azteclady]

I didn't cheered - but then I rarely cheer at character deaths, a flaw I'm sure - but I agree that Shannon is no great loss as a character.

In fact I was extremely surprised at the sudden cries of "But she was soooooooooo interesting!" I can only conclude that some people disliked Ana Lucía enough that they automatically changed their opinion of Shannon in order to support their virulent feelings for Ana Lucía.

[LostInWilderness]

Not only was Ms. Grace an awful actor, her character wasn't the least bit interesting or useful.
I thought Maggie did a great job. She played the shallow bitch to a tee, and then she started growing the character when Walt gave her Vincent. I thought it was great how Walt's confidence in Shannon started the subtle changes that were making her more interesting every episode. She died needlessly and a promising character was taken from us.

[YouFirst]

I thought Maggie did a great job. She played the shallow bitch to a tee, and then she started growing the character when Walt gave her Vincent. I thought it was great how Walt's confidence in Shannon started the subtle changes that were making her more interesting every episode. She died needlessly and a promising character was taken from us.

Couldn't put it better myself, LIW.

When she broke down trying to carry her bags to the caves Maggie's talent really showed.

[moonshadow707]

I was pretty happy when she died. She'd been my least-favorite character since the pilot episode, when she first appeared standing there after the crash in her pink outfit, screaming her head off like a four-year-old child. Her rich, helpless, girly-girl character was so far from my own experience that I just couldn't connect with her at all.
I did feel sorry for her a few times - during the asthma attack (pretty scary - great acting there), when she was upset about being called "useless", and of course when her brother died. But feeling sorry for someone does not necessarily mean you are then going to like that person.
And she SO did not deserve Sayid, who's been my favorite character since the beginning. Naturally, when your favorite character and least-favorite character are put together in a romantic relationship, that's going to be a stomach-turning development. One of my sisters, who's a casual (not obsessive) watcher of the show, said "There is no way that man would fall for that girl".

I thought Maggie did an okay job overall, and I'm sorry for her that she lost such a great gig, but I really don't miss Shannon.

[cinderellabop]

See, to me, the death of Shannon represents the death of a lot of hopes and expectations I had for the show. I never cared what the monster was or what was in the hatch; I was always just willing to go along for the ride on those things. What I believed they were really trying to do with this show was to explore how multi-faceted characters deal with the mysterious situation of being trapped on the island. The use of the flashbacks led me to believe that the real mystery of Lost was not Mystery Frickin' Island, but rather its inhabitants. While the characters displayed one face on the island, the flashbacks often revealed something else entirely, thus challenging our preconceived notions of these characters based on our first impressions. When first we saw Kate, she seemed a good, caring, strong yet vulnerable character. Would we have guessed that she was a criminal, a murderer, then? And Locke, when we first saw him and his 400 knives, would we have ever guessed he was previously a wheel-chair bound office drudge?

So our first impression of Shannon was not favorable. She stood in the middle of the wreckage wailing like a child. She painted her nails while people around her were scared and hurt. When we met Shannon we were not supposed to like her. If the writers had done things the way we were led to believe they would, that notion should have been changed drastically. Just like with Jin, who started out as a domineering, jealous, and even borderline abusive husband, but was revealed to be otherwise in his flashbacks and his subsequent actions, Shannon's behavior should have been countered with a truly sympathetic backstory and perhaps even a heroic island story in which she did something to prove her worth. And I had thought that with Boone's death, Shannon would come out of his shadow and learn to fend for herself. Instead, she just turned to Sayid for comfort and protection, and the storyline of her, um... night with her stepbrother was never closed off. We never found out her side of it--why she did it, what she was thinking, and how she really felt about Boone. She died before we got the chance to really explore her character and to maybe find out what she was really like underneath her bratty act. And that's a shame, because there was tons of potential there that will now never be fulfilled. And I'm left feeling disillusioned.

[Gambit980]

I agree with you Cindy, but I think the writers didn't have enought time to develop her character, before the Exec's screamed you must have another death on the show. If you watch BattleStar Galactica, I feel the same way about Billy. :(