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awff7
02-15-05, 12:48 PM
"From boyee: I read your column about someone dying on Lost, and I nearly had a heart attack. Pleeease, I beg of you: Tell me it's not Dominic Monaghan.

It's not. But I can tell you that this person is well-loved, well-featured and, well, doomed. It is one of the 14 series regulars--one of the biggest characters--and the episode is guaranteed to make you bawl your ever-lovin' eyes out.


From lobsters: I want to know! Spill! (Sorry, pregnant-lady hormones got the best of me!)

Okay, then, out of love and respect for lobsters and her beloved unborn child, I will tell you this: (Do not read if you don't want to know.) It's a boy!



From colin_rip: Wait...a boy? Or a man?
I was just being funny. Don't read too much into that, peeps.


From freakyme: I know you can't tell us exactly who dies--frankly, I don't want to know--but can you tell us how?

Do not read if you don't want to know: Basically, something catastrophic happens, and because someone lies about what happened, the victim ultimately can't be saved.


From brini: Is the medication/schizophrenia thing still going to happen on Lost?

I'm told now that writer-producers decided not to do that storyline. But the original plan, from what I understand, was to have Boone be psychotic and on meds which were running out. But like I said, from what I understand now, that's not gonna happen.


From waterdancer1: What's the dealio with Lost? Are Shannon and Sayid going to go a bit further?

On our local ABC 7 here, they did a whole "Secrets of Lost" shebang, and Naveen Andrews said this when asked about that: "Oh, it's definitely going to happen. I can guarantee you that. I mean, one of the things about this show is that we do push the envelope." Other highlights from castmembers: Ian Somerhalder said, "Something's coming up for my character, and it's definitely going to change the experience of the island, gonna change what we know of the island, and what we think of it, and that's huge." Matthew Fox said, "Jorge's episode will have a sequence of numbers in it that will be very, very significant." Jorge Garcia said, "Look at TV within TV. Wink, nod, that's all you get." Harold Perrineau Jr. said, "I think you should pay really close attention to what Walt does, and the things that happen around Walt."


From jen31cw2: What do you think of the Lost season finale spoiler? I know producers said it was false but close. Any insight?

I think the whole thing is a joke. Here's what I've heard of the finale: We'll go back to the very beginning, when they all boarded the plane. Also...Ha! Love it! Just got a call from a source who wanted to spread this word to you: There's buzz over at camp Lost that there's going to be an episode from the perspective of the dog, Vincent! And it's actually very relevant, because we see what happened in the cargo hold.


From mhs82: So, do we (1) see Claire pop the baby before season's end on Lost, and (2) find out who Ethan was and if there are more like him?

(1) Yes, and let's just say that episode is all about the circle of life, and (2) I do not know."


Btw, there is some speculation by voodoo_in_tx that it might be Jack:

The way Kristin's brain works, Jack is THE Hottie of the show. He's her type of hero and actor. And he's virtually the only one taller than she is ;) She never saw Dom as swoonworthy probably because she towered over him!



My opinion: A Vincent-centric episode would totally rock my world. The fact that Boone is NOT in the meds storyline probably means that the writers have planned big things for him. Also, Sayid's storyline seems to be expanding...so, maybe not him. Since Kristin is writing this, we have to see it through her POV. A lot of fans might swoon over Charlie and Sawyer, but she herself once had a roundup of the "hunks of Lost" and mentioned how much of a "hunk" Jack is...which makes me wonder...

awff7
02-15-05, 12:59 PM
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edens demise
02-15-05, 01:46 PM
If Sawyer dies, I'll die and that is just unnaceptable.

Wynter Zera
02-15-05, 03:06 PM
Wonder if Locke is training his replacement with Boone....

A Vincent centric epi! GREAT! We love that dog!

awff7
02-15-05, 03:39 PM
It'll be great to see what happens in the cargo hold. Maybe we'll see Jack's father pop out of the coffin :rollin

I'm loving Vincent so much now! He licked Boone's face! I'm so jealous :lol

Iphigenia W
02-15-05, 04:42 PM
*The fact that Boone is NOT in the meds storyline probably means that the writers have planned big things for him.*

Or it could mean they aren't doing storylines on him as they plan on killing him off.

ConfidenceMan
02-15-05, 07:06 PM
Oh man.

A Vincent POV for the season finale would be so awesome.

Wynter Zera
02-15-05, 07:40 PM
Or it could mean they aren't doing storylines on him as they plan on killing him off.

Well, now this makes me think they were leaning toward killing Boone off (which I had suspected early on with how they suddenly shoved him to the front), but changed their minds. Instead he gets to be a replacement.

New tally:
1. Locke
2. Sayid
3. Jack

Lucy Pearl
02-15-05, 07:51 PM
Now that Kristin has narrowed the field down (assuming she actually knows), I find myself really hoping Jack doesn't die. Her hints point way too close to him for my liking.

The only thing keeping my hope alive is that the death might be happening in the same episode Claire gives birth. Jack should be plastered to her side and not wandering around the jungle, or whatever, getting killed.

Ugh, why does anybody have to die! LOL

lost1
02-15-05, 11:35 PM
The fact that they turned Boone off the Med Storyline and plus one of the creators recently was quoted (I think it was Lindeloff) that we will not see many Boone-centric episodes - that tells me Boone is a goner!!!

Two bad reasons for killing him

1) No More Boone Beatings!
2) That kid ain't that bad of an actor - Hearts and Minds - he was excellent.

awff7
02-16-05, 12:22 AM
Just because I wrote planned big things for him doesn't mean I don't think he's one of the goners. Maybe the big thing is that he is a goner! Also, the fact that, in the credits, he is high on the list (only behind Jack and Kate) makes me think that the writers, since the beginning, thought that he will be a major character. So far, I think Boone is either the one who dies or the one who lies, causing the other character to die. Either way, he'll be a major part of the season finale.

But, would any of us really cry if Boone dies? I guess if they did it right...

My list so far is this: 1) Jack 2) Sawyer 4) Sayid 5) Boone

I really hope it's Boone, though, because the actor is the only one on my list who is neither married nor with children. I hate it when an actor who needs the money for family gets the boot. I mean, didn't they all (except Emilie) move to Hawaii just for the show?

Meanwhile, I'm *anxiously* waiting for Vincent's POV. I like the dog more than some of the characters.

Black Dahlia
02-16-05, 01:37 AM
I hope Boone doesn't die for Ian Somerholder's sake, as he just bought a house in Hawaii.

Hopefully the Vincent-centric episode (is that confirmed for this season?) is filmed with a doggy-cam in black-and-white. Maybe we'll get to hear things humans can't, too.

I'm not sure how a lie will tie into it, but I bet tragedy strikes as everyone is boarding a rescue ship.

My guess is Boone lies, Jack dies, and Kate cries, or at least stares solemnly off into the distance.

shootingstar05
02-16-05, 02:51 AM
Being that the birth episode will be about the circle of life, it's probably safe to assume that someone will also die in that episode.
I am surprised and excited to hear that there will be a Vincent-centric episode, how perfect. Where did you get this information from?

awff7
02-16-05, 04:10 AM
E!Online Chat with Kristin, who supposedly knows a lot of the things that are going to happen on Lost (she has never been wrong before, as far as I know, although she has reported TOO early and sometimes gets things like the meds spoiler, which was later scrapped by the writers). She does say the the writers are thinking about it, so it is not confirmed.



*anxiously* awaiting Vincent's episode

Cousin Eddie
02-16-05, 04:47 AM
A "Vincent" flashback ???? :x

Cousin Eddie
02-16-05, 04:51 AM
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awff7
02-16-05, 06:33 AM
Hey, if it reveals something relevant about the cargo hold, I'm all for a Vincent-centric episode.

Mr. Catbert
02-16-05, 10:53 AM
What if the guy who dies is also the one who lies?

and how are people getting the extra smileys?

villana81
02-16-05, 11:39 AM
When she said yesterday that the character who may die was one of principals and that shocked herself when she knew who it was, my first guess was Jack or Charlie, 'cause Charlie has so many fans and Jack is the leader of the group, then i start thinking about Sawyer being killed off, which i couldn't stand. I think Jack and sawyer can't be killed 'cause there's got be more sexual tension between jack/kate/sawyer, so i don't know what to think anymore.

Cousin Eddie
02-16-05, 03:29 PM
and how are people getting the extra smileys?


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jncar
02-16-05, 05:42 PM
I am almost sure Locke will die--just intuition on my part.

If not him, I say it will be Jack or Boone, or just maybe Michael.

Wynter Zera
02-16-05, 05:44 PM
Ah, here is where she said the death would be male!

(now I feel dumb)

http://xs16.xs.to/pics/05073/sweetdrop.gif

awff7
02-16-05, 06:16 PM
Don't worry, Wynter Zera, the same spoilers are popping up ALL over the place. :) It's pretty confusing as to what's going on.

Also, people, PLEASE, read the first post AT LEAST before posting redundant information.

Here's the death thing:

1) He's a MALE.

2) He's a WELL-LOVED character.

3) He's SWOONED OVER.

4) He's one of the 14 MAIN CAST MEMBERS.

5) Someone's lies prevent the other characters from saving him.

6) It is going to be a cry-worthy scene.

This automatically rules out all the women, Michael, Jin, Locke, Vincent, Walt, etc....

...and leaves Jack, Sawyer, Sayid, Hurley, and Boone. Boone is kind of a maybe because he's certainly not a well-loved character. Hurley is not likely because he's not swooned over that much.

For info of the other spoilers (e.g. Vincent's episode, importance of Boone, Hurley, and Walt, etc.) read the first post.


Also, for the extra emoticons, just click complete list (which is on the bottom of all the emoticons to the right.)

luxe
02-16-05, 06:31 PM
My gut is saying Jack with Sawyer a close second. AWWWW I hate this! I love both of those guys and the roles they play! They both do an incredible job and I would hate to see either go. I actually hope it is Boone because he is the only "swoone-worthy" character that I dont mind being killed off...

when is this episode supposed to happen?

Dimples321
02-16-05, 07:28 PM
my gut is saying sawyer...

Rae1227
02-16-05, 07:40 PM
It's not. But I can tell you that this person is well-loved, well-featured and, well, doomed. It is one of the 14 series regulars--one of the biggest characters--and the episode is guaranteed to make you bawl your ever-lovin' eyes out.

When I read this on E! I noticed that Kristin had emphasized biggest characters with italics. I instantly thought that Hurley was a) the biggest character and b) the only one where I would actually cry over their death. Every other potential death just wouldn't "guarantee" such an emotional reaction. That Hurley's episode hasn't aired but is coming up keeps his character fresh in our minds and in new viewers minds, so far he has been featured in almost, if not every episode, but really hasn't been actively involved in the action. His death would have ramifications (especially if someone's lie contributes to his dying) but not interrupt the longer term characterizations of the show.

Rene
02-16-05, 08:02 PM
I like that the season finale might be an episode where we see the beginning of the flight in "real" time and hopefully in a more sequential manner. Also sounds like what went on in the cargo hold might be important if they really do a Vincent episode. That would be very interesting as we dont know where he has gone to the couple times he was missing...

Samaraman
02-17-05, 02:05 AM
Nope it's not Locke, Jack or Boone, or even Sayid!

It's gonna be Sawyer, period.

Wynter Zera
02-17-05, 02:16 AM
Don't think so. Look at the discription. Someone lies and the other dies a tragic death because of it. It's not going to be intentional.

My theories:

Locke dies opening the hatch by himself and Boone lies about where he is as agreed between the two.

So far that's the only one. I have a feeling Jack and Sawyer are being painted too strongly....

My list:
Locke
Jack
Sayid

awff7
02-17-05, 02:51 AM
One big problem with that: Locke isn't a character that's swooned over...

kLa
02-17-05, 05:55 PM
"Look at TV within TV"

Im guessing this is the photo of Hurley standing with the chicken leg.

And her comment about seeing Claire giving birth/and circle of life...I would think that's the episode where someone also dies.

I really am starting to think that it's Jack! This is making me sad!!!

cardigirl
02-17-05, 06:13 PM
I still think it's Hurley...he has been "swooned" over in that he is one of the most popular characters with everybody..

he's certainly the 'biggest'

WaffleWaffle
02-18-05, 06:37 PM
I went back to Kristen's chat transcript and did not see where she said that the character marked for death was swoon-worthy- If it is there and I'm blind please tell me.

I got:

male
well loved
well featured
doomed
not Charlie
One of the 14 main characters
One of the biggest characters
We'll bawl our eyes out

If biggest means star power, then it sounds like Jack
And of course the character was to die in the pilot, maybe now that ABC knows they have the ratings they'd let the creative team kill him now?

If biggest means literally biggest, then it sounds like Hurley

Well loved, what does that mean in Kristen world? that could change the interpretation too.

When I started this out I was sure it was Hurley, but now I feel like I could go in circles all afternoon...

Isitwednesdayyet
02-18-05, 07:27 PM
Hurley is a character that's "swooned over." He fainted, or "swooned", in the first episode!

Lucy Pearl
02-18-05, 07:28 PM
She didn't say the swoon-worthy bit in her chat. She said it in her last column.

Here's the link.

www.eonline.com/Gossip/Kristin/Archive2005/050212c.html (http://www.eonline.com/Gossip/Kristin/Archive2005/050212c.html)

kevev99
02-18-05, 08:55 PM
My money's on Sayid. He is one of the most featured characters, he is definitely swooned over, and it happens as the result of a lie. We know in an upcoming episode that Boone warns Sayid about Shannon given that Sayid and Shannon are getting involved. We know Shannon isn't the most honest person from her backstory. It would fit that she lies to Sayid about something and it causes his demise.

If this is the case with Sayid dying I think it is awful. He is a fresh face on TV and his character has great potential. It's a shame really that a main character is going to ide, but it is DIFFERENT for a network show in its first year.

I doubt it'll be Hurley because he is the only true "comic relief" on this show. I doubt it'd be Jack or Sawyer given the triangle with Kate, not to mention the little issue of Sawyer knowing about Jack and his dad based on this past episode. I see that being something that drags out to next season, not being resolved by this season's end. It would be too short a time to resolve it this year. It leaves something open for season 2.

soup
02-18-05, 09:06 PM
It's going to be Hurley. Too much play on words in her clues to not be him. Plus, people will be outraged that he dies, which is a good thing for a show sometimes.

Ethan was hiding in the cargo hold with Vincent, that's why he wasn't on the manifest. You know, like that kid who mailed himself from, like, New York to Houston. I stick by that theory.:smokin

WaffleWaffle
02-18-05, 11:12 PM
Thanks for the link Lucy... gah! I was ready to let Hurley go. Would rather see Jack go than Sayid, but we've heard Sawyer-Kate in the short term and Jack-Kate in the longer term so that does argue against Jack, but I'd rather see Jack go than Sayid. So who would be on Kristen's list that meets the combined criteria from chat & transcript?

Are Jack & Sayid the only well featured/loved, swoon-worthy, non-Charlie males??:(

HollyAletha5256
02-19-05, 01:05 AM
i think sawyer is a likely candidate as well...he is as well-featured episode wise as sayid so far..well loved, swooned over...etc etc.

"One big problem with that: Locke isn't a character that's swooned over... "
^come on now...we all know in our heart of hearts we have swoooooned over locke at some points...we all know young locke-in-training boone has...you can't deny it :smokin :lol

GotLost88
02-19-05, 03:43 AM
It's going to be Hurley. Too much play on words in her clues to not be him. Plus, people will be outraged that he dies, which is a good thing for a show sometimes.

I agree w/ that, but yet I also don't. Its weird...I found myself agreeing w/ literally every post I read on this board even though they all claimed a different person was going to die. I definitely don't want anyone to die, but I can see why the writers are doing it. It adds to the plot. I really hope its not Hurley, but it would make a lot of sense according to the clues we've got. I agree that its odd how several plays on words are used that could point to Hurley in the spoiler. It could mean something.

I also agree that in a lot of ways, its pointed at Jack. I REALLY hope not though! He's hands down one of my favorites and I love the whole potential romance thing going on w/ him and Kate. I also think it could point to Sawyer and I love him too, so I don't want him to die either. I really don't want anyone to die but as we all know, it has to happen. I think Sayid is another very likely character. If it HAD to be one of the above, I'd go for Sayid. From what I can see, he fits the description in the spoiler. It would be really sad if he died, but for me it wouldn't be as sad as if they tore up the Jack/Kate/Sawyer triangle.

Oh, one last thing I just remembered! I saw on the Fuselage once in the section where you can leave questions for the cast and writers that Jorge Garcia had answered a question about the death of a main character. He said that yes, the cast now knows who it is and no, no one is freaking out about it. Could he be the one to answer that question because he's going to be the one to die? Just a thought...

Cousin Eddie
02-20-05, 04:04 PM
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ClaireAndCharlie
02-20-05, 05:38 PM
Cousin Eddie~ :lol

Maybe Jack gets hurt so bad he can't help himself, Kate asks where he is, Sawyer lies....

yeah u see where Im going with this:(

LostIslander
02-20-05, 08:55 PM
Maybe Jack gets hurt so bad he can't help himself, Kate asks where he is, Sawyer lies....

I would be very disappointed if this were the case, if only because they already used that in The Moth.

I think they've purposely been drawing the net around certain characters over the last few episodes because it leaves it open for anything to happen. Of the five who we have narrowed it down to, four of them (Jack, Boone, Sawyer and Sayid) have had confrontations, major or minor, with each of the others (J-Swyr, J-B, J-Syd, Swyr-B, Swyr-Syd, B-Syd). Any old or new feelings of hostility could resurface at any point.
Hurley is the wild card, and the only evidence really pointing to him is the emphasis on "biggest". As far as the tear-jerking goes, I think that the writers are so good that if done right, they could have me sobbing over the death of Vincent :( , so I wouldn't take that as direct evidence for Hurley.

(One off-topic rambling: what do you think Claire's going to name the baby? Will the 'circle-of-life' idea end with Claire naming her baby after the male character who dies around the time that she gives birth? She sure as heck isn't going to name him Thomas.)

mystjade
02-23-05, 04:09 AM
Sudden bizarre hunch about who dies: sayid

Why? Because kirsten made it sound as if his relationship with Shannon is getting serious. That would make his death 1. more tragic, 2. an interesting plot line. Also it would Get the writers out of dreaming up all sorts of plot contrivances to break the couple up and bring them back together again. j.j. even killed off sydney when her relationship with vaughn became too intense.

Schmarp
02-25-05, 09:36 AM
Also, people, PLEASE, read the first post AT LEAST before posting redundant information.

Here's the death thing:

1) He's a MALE.

Kristin doesn't confirm that the character is male in the transcript at the top of this thread; in fact, she seems to take great care in using gender-neutral terms throughout it.

It sounds like you're doing precisely what she instructed against -- reading too much into her attempt at humor (i.e. giving "It's a boy!" as her big reveal to a pregnant woman's ambiguous demand for information).

Of course, just because Kristin hasn't confirmed it to be a male in this transcript, doesn't mean it won't be. We just can't state that as solid fact yet, unless it's been confirmed elsewhere.

King Monkey
02-25-05, 10:05 AM
Did anyone else see the article that mentioned Lost "offing...a familiar primetime face"
If this is accurate then it has to be Jack. I don't care what shows the other cast members were on, Party of Five is the only one that would be considered familiar by a mainstream entertainment magazine.
Excluding this statement my best guess as to who will die would be:
Sawyer: 56%
Sayid: 43%
Jack: 01%
I don't know that Sayid would be considered "well-featured" in the same way Sawyer has been. I can imagine good plotlines that would involve Sayid being the one killed, but I'm leaning toward Sawyer. Also I gotta look up the source for the wording, but is it possible the one who lies about the "catastrophic event" is also the one who dies as a result of the lie? Probably not. I may be looking into things too closely.
God, I don't wanna wait 6 weeks for Deus ex Machina! I'd much rather watch lost then friggin Survivor! Oh well, mabey they'll take a hint from the ratings and throw some polar bears on that island!

Master Xander
02-25-05, 02:59 PM
Actually, Survivor has better ratings than Lost. Just so you know.

LoStMyMiNd
02-25-05, 07:26 PM
What if the writers only think we are swooning over a particular actor when we are actually swooning over someone else. Would it still be the same? Like maybe they think we're all swooning over Boone when in actuality we're swooning over Sawyer.

Master Xander
02-26-05, 12:59 AM
I am now merging all the character death threads into this one (http://p073.ezboard.com/flosttheunofficalforumfortheabcseriesfrm8.showMess age?topicID=21.topic), so all discussion, speculation, and additional information on which regular will die will go there.

Locking.

-Xan.